Dear Members,At the end of your message/matter in your mails here, please mention a few lines about you, The way Jonathan writes like this, Jonathan Zuck Executive Director Innovators Network Foundation www.InnovatorsNetwork.org Main: +1 (202) 827-7594 Direct: +1 (202) 420-7483 With this, the mail readers will know about you. Regards, K Mohan RaiduPresidentISoc India Hyderabad Chapter.==================================================================== -----Original Message----- From: Alejandro Pisanty via At-Large <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> To: Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> Cc: ICANN At-Large list <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Sent: Thu, May 6, 2021 11:23 am Subject: Re: [At-Large] ICANN Funding Request FY22-05 Maureen, absolutely. 90% of the work should go into the problem definition. Alejandro Pisanty On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 12:47 AM Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote: And that it is meaningful to both ICANN and the At-Large Community... But starting a good discussion.. :) M On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 6:37 PM Alejandro Pisanty <apisanty@gmail.com> wrote: Don't focus on the nature of the survey (self-selected or otherwise) nor anything else (need for a firm etc.) - before wasting anybody's time and energy, start with a question whose answer is not yet known and is relevant to a decision to be made. So, what is the decision that needs to be made? Alejandro Pisanty On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 10:11 PM Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> wrote: We really need to hire a survey firm to develop a worthwhile sample. We shouldn't be attempting an end user survey with Survey Monkey where people self select. We should only use Survey Monkey with people already in our radar. Whether there is a well-defined question that can only be answered by survey remains to be seen. That's the exercise here. Jonathan Zuck Executive Director Innovators Network Foundation www.InnovatorsNetwork.org Main: +1 (202) 827-7594 Direct: +1 (202) 420-7483 From: Alejandro Pisanty <apisanty@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 11:00:25 PM To: Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> Cc: Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com>; ICANN At-Large list <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [At-Large] ICANN Funding Request FY22-05 Hi, is there a well-defined question that cannot be answered except by a survey? Is the budget there for the design of the survey, segmentation, etc. before the first line of surveymonkey is written? What is the project? What decision will be fed by the answer to the survey? Alejandro Pisanty On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 9:48 PM Jonathan Zuck via At-Large <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote: We probably start with the CCTRT surveys and see what areas might bear further examination. Jonathan Zuck Executive Director Innovators Network Foundation www.InnovatorsNetwork.org Main: +1 (202) 827-7594 Direct: +1 (202) 420-7483 From: Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 9:10:48 PM To: Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> Cc: Eduardo Diaz <eduardodiazrivera@gmail.com>; ICANN At-Large list <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org>; Joanna Kulesza <jkuleszaicann@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [At-Large] ICANN Funding Request FY22-05 Thank you Jonathan.. After ATLASIII I had hoped that we might have had enough interest and capacity to establish a research group, but it never eventuated. I guess because there wasn't anyone to drive them towards a particular purpose as there is now. So what is it that you are particularly after so that we can gather some ideas from other like-minded individuals, about what is out there that could be useful to us, if that's what we need to do. M On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 2:50 PM Jonathan Zuck via At-Large <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote: We took.a shot and hoped for more, but its a start. We have to find a way to make good use of it. We can't mount a worldwide survey with that much and we SHOULD not do a stupid self selection survey. That leaves two options: piggyback or pilot. Global surveys are historically rare but have become more frequent with COVID. With $50k, we might get a few questions added to something already being fielded. Alternatively, we focus on a particular geographic region and language and see if we can get valuable enough data to get further funds. We'll definitely have to give it some thought. Another committee. Sigh. Jonathan Jonathan Zuck Executive Director Innovators Network Foundation www.InnovatorsNetwork.org Main: +1 (202) 827-7594 Direct: +1 (202) 420-7483 From: At-Large <at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Evan Leibovitch via At-Large <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 8:08:18 PM To: Eduardo Diaz <eduardodiazrivera@gmail.com>; ICANN At-Large list <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: [At-Large] ICANN Funding Request FY22-05 Regarding ICANN'sallocation of resources in support of end-user polling by and for ALAC: To Heidi who advanced this request within ICANN, and to all who had a part of creating it, a heartfelt and personal thank you. I am extremely heartened by the allocation of funds for survey-based research to support and drive ALAC's ongoing work. Some of you may have seen my participation in At-Large mailing lists complaining about the lack of such resources, and now here they are. I have no idea whether my contributions played any role in development of this formal request of which I was not aware, but regardless I am sincerely appreciative of the significant effort that I know has gone into creating and advancing the request. So now is the time to deliver, now that the opportunity is at hand. I have no idea what kind of sub-group and/or what ALAC support staff will be tasked to turn this approval into a detailed plan; I am at the service of whatever mechanism will be used. I hope to be useful to this process and make a positive contribution for the first time in a long time. And, again, thank you to all involved. 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