Cheryl and all my friends, I am truly sorry anyone is fatigued. They should get whatever necessary rest they need to rejuvenate properly and sufficiently. I believe that is what most wise people do accordingly. If one wishes or feels a need to address list fatigue, as you indicate/state in your remarks below, than changing ones list options see:http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org is one of *several means* by which to address same. Another is to deploy a filter for their Email client which has already been stated by myself and Evan earlier, although in doing so they are by their own choice, practicing censorship, which is not healthy and as such significantly disadvantageous at a minimum. The ALAC list is a public forum or is supposed to be, as such YOU nor any of the forum participants OWN the ALAC mailing list forums accordingly, ergo as a ALAC member and participant myself, I wish to have my and our groups views heard, as spokesman, it IS my responsibility to ensure such is done to the best of my ability. I, as do ALL of our members desire to hear ANYONE else's views unfettered or unrestricted as well. However none of your remarks below have anything what so ever to do with public discourse, openness and transparency in any positive and legitimate manner and restriction of discourse as such is a violation of the MOU as well and more importantly, a violation of the US 1st amendment, our (Americans) most sacred and broadly protected rights. I would NEVER censor in any fashion anything YOU have to say Cheryl, and I and our members, of which quite a few reside in your home country, hope you will extend the same courtesy to myself and our members accordingly. Cheryl Langdon-Orr wrote:
No we are avoiding list fatigue and responding to specific requests to look at the recent plethora of posts and cross posts from other lists to our public list...
CLO
-----Original Message----- From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey A. Williams Sent: Thursday, 28 February 2008 4:13 PM To: 'At-Large Worldwide' Subject: Re: [At-Large] Jeff Williams
Cheryl and all my friends,
Are you trying to imply something? Where are these posting limits to which you seemingly criptically refrence in regards to some meeting which all participants were not made aware of, on the @large web site?
I am sory that Thomas N. is in fact mistating facts. If he, or anyone has a problem with me, as always, I await his/her service. Otherwise clap-trap and/or significant desparagment on a personal level only shows their own shortcomings accordingly.
Disagreement regarding issues should be expected and welcome so as to reasonably arrive at some measured consensus that can be utilized or offered as a potential policy and subsequent real action(s) that benifit all users.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr wrote:
List moderation and posting limitations were discussed at last nights (my time) ALAC ExCo Meeting... and based upon requests from the community we have asked Staff to brief the ALAC at its next meeting (March 11th) on our list options... If the information is supplied earlier we will review the options and discuss with ALAC Lists earlier...
CLO
From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Franck Martin
Sent: Thursday, 28 February 2008 11:29 AM To: Thomas Narten Cc: At-Large Worldwide Subject: Re: [At-Large] Jeff Williams
Then why are we still entertaining him on a working mailing list? I know about freedom of speech, etc.. But ALAC is supposed to be a working group not a zoo. On 28/02/2008, Thomas Narten <narten@us.ibm.com> wrote:
I have never seen so many errors in an e-mail. I really doubt your capacity to comment on ICANN matters when obviously you have no clue on who is who.
Suggestion: please don't feed the trolls. Jeff Williams has a long history of visiting mailing lists and posting numerous messages and generating heat and noise (but little light). He's also been kicked off (or shunned off) mailing lists because of his antics.
Before responding, think hard as to whether responding to one of his posts would be worth either your (or the lists) time.
For example, folk may find it interesting to google for "jeff williams
faq" and see what hits you get.
The first one I got was:
http://www..dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc03/msg01091.html
Thomas
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