Folks A great discussion on this list - making some really important points. So instead of letting the matter drop (as is so often the case), make this an item for discussion at CPH - and allow plenty of time. How do we communicate, can we do better and how. So maybe review what some of us know - what are the lists, how are they used (or not), when people unsubscribe, do we try to find out why, is there a better way to communicate - by topic? And Dev, Garth, Seun and everyone - could there be a page or so - to that list and staff, saying this is a better way and this is how to do it. We are starting the Review comments - and how we communicate (and how we could do it better) is clearly something that should be one of the top items on that agenda. So let’s actually make our communications structures better rather than just complain Thanks everyone Holly On 20 Feb 2017, at 4:57 am, Roberto Gaetano <roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com> wrote:
Oh good, then we can agree. R
Da: gbruen@knujon.com [mailto:gbruen@knujon.com] Inviato: domenica 19 febbraio 2017 18:55 A: Roberto Gaetano Cc: at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Oggetto: Re: R: [At-Large] Unsubscribe me please
<< OTOH, your point is to replace email with something different, I am strongly against.>>
Hardly Roberto, I want people to have CHOICE and the system to be flexible. Have a web interface that allows people to subscribe to the issue they are concerned about and when they respond via email to a thread it is placed somewhere useful within the interface so people who do NOT use the email list can still interact with you. The overlay of a properly configured interface would also allow people to use the system in a LOCAL language if they choose.
On 2/19/17 12:46 PM, Roberto Gaetano wrote: Garth, I am not arguing on the fact that there are other solutions, what I reacted was to the idea of dropping the email. What is *better* or *much better* is really a matter of different taste, connectivity conditions (bandwidth, cost, etc.), way to use (always online or not), and more. What is good for some, is bad for other. If your point is that ICANN should explore alternatives and add them to the offer they give to the stakeholders, I am with you. If, OTOH, your point is to replace email with something different, I am strongly against. Cheers, Roberto
Da: gbruen@knujon.com [mailto:gbruen@knujon.com] Inviato: domenica 19 febbraio 2017 18:24 A: Roberto Gaetano Cc: at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Oggetto: Re: [At-Large] Unsubscribe me please
Roberto,
There is a much better way. Web technology has evolved considerably, It is entirely possible to have a single interface where all At-Large participants can review current issues and collaborate in queues and streams. Instead of cobbling together a bunch of disparate systems for placing and tracking At-Large work, can we put all the tools in one place like every other effective organization has done. We're not using anything even close to workflow, none of the At-Large "Stuff" is results or goal driven. Log into this for that, log into this other thing for something else. This is a case study in driving our work into the ground.
-Garth
On 2/19/17 11:35 AM, Roberto Gaetano wrote: To me, it works well - or at least better than some alternatives. But maybe there other ways that I don't know. Anyway, please do not unsubscribe me :) R
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On 19 Feb 2017, at 17:13, "gbruen@knujon.com" <gbruen@knujon.com> wrote:
Seun, there are always too many emails, none channeled to specific interests or needs. This decades-old "system" of collaboration and information flow is one of the great failures of ICANN to engage with the community. Why would anyone want to stay engaged?
On 2/19/17 10:46 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote: Hello,
The URL to unsubscribe is in the footer:
https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
On that note, I wonder why a few people are unsubscribing? Are the mails too much already ;-)
Regards Sent from my LG G4 Kindly excuse brevity and typos
On Feb 19, 2017 16:38, "Alexander Forsyth" <aforsyth.pdp@gmail.com> wrote: Thank you.
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