Re: [At-Large] Many new members in ccNSO
Most of the new joined members to ccNSO are not interested in IDNs or planning to introduce IDN ccTLDs, historically many European ccTLD had reservations on membership of ccNSO and implication related the relationship with ICANN, ccTLD registries are considered national assets and there is a sovereignty issues . Recently manay ccTLD registries exchanged accountability frame work letters with ICANN to govern ICANN/ccTLD relations, still some ccTLD did not join. Last year china membership to ccNSO encouraged other large ccTLDs to join ( e.g UK ) and now Germany finally joined, thats make the 3 biggest ccTLD registries in the world join ccNSO ( .de, .cn, .uk ). This also a result of the work of ccNSO participation working group, which work as out-reach and imporve ccNSO participation in terms of quantity and quality, which i guess an example of a WG what is needed in At-Large Community . Regards, Mohamed EL Bashir
I would guess the IDN ccTLDs would be a motivation for at least some, and the contact from ICANN asking who is likely to want a fast track IDN ccTLD was a consciousness raising exercise for others.
Alan
At 18/02/2009 02:46 PM, Rudi Vansnick wrote:
Dear friends,
For some reason many ccTLD's not being member of the ccNSO are now signing up (in a hurry) to the ccNSO. Somehow I think I'm missing somewhere a message or event that is important for ccNSO to be in good shape and have as many members as possible.
I'm going through every message and will try to find out the reason herefor.
Best regards,
Rudi Vansnick ALAC liaison ccNSO
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Hi there, Can I chip in a bit here? why should the named ccTLDs make News? With all due respect, I sat in the cc (NSO/TLD) Council as a novice but with a wide eye and ear to listen and contribute where I believed it would make a difference for the better in a neutral way as I was (a representative for User/used?) History is good in its own respective way bu can not necessarily dictate what happens now although it can help to predict the future (if we dwell on the same trend) assuming that nothing new has emerged. It is an individual view (or suggestion/advise/however it seems to be) ccNSO/ccTLD membership is worth considering deeply (it is the best platform to be seen in the crowd!!) I am not talking about my Continental/Regional (Africa) entity - it matters to most of the world participants - "One World" thirough this "Internet Economic Evolution" is the option not to everlook since it is the opportunity!! Thanks for the space to air my views YMshana (ex ccNSO Councilor)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:52:37 -0600 From: admin@isoc.sd To: at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [At-Large] Many new members in ccNSO
Most of the new joined members to ccNSO are not interested in IDNs or planning to introduce IDN ccTLDs, historically many European ccTLD had reservations on membership of ccNSO and implication related the relationship with ICANN, ccTLD registries are considered national assets and there is a sovereignty issues .
Recently manay ccTLD registries exchanged accountability frame work letters with ICANN to govern ICANN/ccTLD relations, still some ccTLD did not join.
Last year china membership to ccNSO encouraged other large ccTLDs to join ( e.g UK ) and now Germany finally joined, thats make the 3 biggest ccTLD registries in the world join ccNSO ( .de, .cn, .uk ).
This also a result of the work of ccNSO participation working group, which work as out-reach and imporve ccNSO participation in terms of quantity and quality, which i guess an example of a WG what is needed in At-Large Community .
Regards, Mohamed EL Bashir
I would guess the IDN ccTLDs would be a motivation for at least some, and the contact from ICANN asking who is likely to want a fast track IDN ccTLD was a consciousness raising exercise for others.
Alan
At 18/02/2009 02:46 PM, Rudi Vansnick wrote:
Dear friends,
For some reason many ccTLD's not being member of the ccNSO are now signing up (in a hurry) to the ccNSO. Somehow I think I'm missing somewhere a message or event that is important for ccNSO to be in good shape and have as many members as possible.
I'm going through every message and will try to find out the reason herefor.
Best regards,
Rudi Vansnick ALAC liaison ccNSO
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Ooops!! Typos in my previous email contribution.. I am sorry but I was using a foreign language-keyboard. It happens -in my case is typos but it go all the way to IDNS...... Got it? thanks Yassin
From: ymshana2003@hotmail.com To: at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 01:45:04 +0200 CC: ethinktanktz@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [At-Large] Many new members in ccNSO
Hi there,
Can I chip in a bit here? why should the named ccTLDs make News? With all due respect, I sat in the cc (NSO/TLD) Council as a novice but with a wide eye and ear to listen and contribute where I believed it would make a difference for the better in a neutral way as I was (a representative for User/used?)
History is good in its own respective way bu can not necessarily dictate what happens now although it can help to predict the future (if we dwell on the same trend) assuming that nothing new has emerged.
It is an individual view (or suggestion/advise/however it seems to be) ccNSO/ccTLD membership is worth considering deeply (it is the best platform to be seen in the crowd!!)
I am not talking about my Continental/Regional (Africa) entity - it matters to most of the world participants - "One World" thirough this "Internet Economic Evolution" is the option not to everlook since it is the opportunity!!
Thanks for the space to air my views
YMshana (ex ccNSO Councilor)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:52:37 -0600 From: admin@isoc.sd To: at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [At-Large] Many new members in ccNSO
Most of the new joined members to ccNSO are not interested in IDNs or planning to introduce IDN ccTLDs, historically many European ccTLD had reservations on membership of ccNSO and implication related the relationship with ICANN, ccTLD registries are considered national assets and there is a sovereignty issues .
Recently manay ccTLD registries exchanged accountability frame work letters with ICANN to govern ICANN/ccTLD relations, still some ccTLD did not join.
Last year china membership to ccNSO encouraged other large ccTLDs to join ( e.g UK ) and now Germany finally joined, thats make the 3 biggest ccTLD registries in the world join ccNSO ( .de, .cn, .uk ).
This also a result of the work of ccNSO participation working group, which work as out-reach and imporve ccNSO participation in terms of quantity and quality, which i guess an example of a WG what is needed in At-Large Community .
Regards, Mohamed EL Bashir
I would guess the IDN ccTLDs would be a motivation for at least some, and the contact from ICANN asking who is likely to want a fast track IDN ccTLD was a consciousness raising exercise for others.
Alan
At 18/02/2009 02:46 PM, Rudi Vansnick wrote:
Dear friends,
For some reason many ccTLD's not being member of the ccNSO are now signing up (in a hurry) to the ccNSO. Somehow I think I'm missing somewhere a message or event that is important for ccNSO to be in good shape and have as many members as possible.
I'm going through every message and will try to find out the reason herefor.
Best regards,
Rudi Vansnick ALAC liaison ccNSO
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And indeed the ccNSO has spent several years now ( at least three I think) diligently working to encourage more membership.. This is all positive outcomes from positive efforts if Rudi was concerned about anything untoward or of concern to At-Large being part of all this I can assure him and you all that to my knowledge (and as a Director of auDA the .au ccTLD operator I am in a position to make this statement) it is certainly NOT the case...
From the At-large perspective several of our ALS's are closely involved with their local ccTLD operator and operations in terms of being a source of Internet User input into Policy development and practices and to that end we have all been working hard to get more ccNSO Members from any of our countries that had not yet joined... Ron Sherwood is the ccNSO liaison to the ALAC and Rudi is the ALAC Liaison to the ccNSO as ALAC Chair I will ensure that in Mexico if not before time is taken to ensure Rudi is brought up to speed on all this important background activity, and if Ron is not attending Mexico I will find and make alternate arrangements...
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Most of the new joined members to ccNSO are not interested in IDNs or planning to introduce IDN ccTLDs, historically many European ccTLD had reservations on membership of ccNSO and implication related the relationship with ICANN, ccTLD registries are considered national assets and there is a sovereignty issues .
Recently manay ccTLD registries exchanged accountability frame work letters with ICANN to govern ICANN/ccTLD relations, still some ccTLD did not join.
Last year china membership to ccNSO encouraged other large ccTLDs to join ( e.g UK ) and now Germany finally joined, thats make the 3 biggest ccTLD registries in the world join ccNSO ( .de, .cn, .uk ).
This also a result of the work of ccNSO participation working group, which work as out-reach and imporve ccNSO participation in terms of quantity and quality, which i guess an example of a WG what is needed in At-Large Community .
Regards, Mohamed EL Bashir
I would guess the IDN ccTLDs would be a motivation for at least some, and the contact from ICANN asking who is likely to want a fast track IDN ccTLD was a consciousness raising exercise for others.
Alan
At 18/02/2009 02:46 PM, Rudi Vansnick wrote:
Dear friends,
For some reason many ccTLD's not being member of the ccNSO are now signing up (in a hurry) to the ccNSO. Somehow I think I'm missing somewhere a message or event that is important for ccNSO to be in good shape and have as many members as possible.
I'm going through every message and will try to find out the reason herefor.
Best regards,
Rudi Vansnick ALAC liaison ccNSO
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Thank you Mohamed, for the clarifying words. Nevertheless, the rush for membership just before the Mexico meeting is pulling my eye on what could be more important. Knowing the new GTLD's debates will probably enforce certain maneuvers and as I heard already from different angles the request for having ccTLD's paying license fees just like the G's are doing, having a majority of ccTLD's represented in the ccNSO could probably be quite important. I'm preparing myself as much as I can in order to be very attentive to what is going to be discussed in ccNSO in Mexico. Rudi Vansnick admin@isoc.sd schreef:
Most of the new joined members to ccNSO are not interested in IDNs or planning to introduce IDN ccTLDs, historically many European ccTLD had reservations on membership of ccNSO and implication related the relationship with ICANN, ccTLD registries are considered national assets and there is a sovereignty issues .
Recently manay ccTLD registries exchanged accountability frame work letters with ICANN to govern ICANN/ccTLD relations, still some ccTLD did not join.
Last year china membership to ccNSO encouraged other large ccTLDs to join ( e.g UK ) and now Germany finally joined, thats make the 3 biggest ccTLD registries in the world join ccNSO ( .de, .cn, .uk ).
This also a result of the work of ccNSO participation working group, which work as out-reach and imporve ccNSO participation in terms of quantity and quality, which i guess an example of a WG what is needed in At-Large Community .
Regards, Mohamed EL Bashir
I would guess the IDN ccTLDs would be a motivation for at least some, and the contact from ICANN asking who is likely to want a fast track IDN ccTLD was a consciousness raising exercise for others.
Alan
At 18/02/2009 02:46 PM, Rudi Vansnick wrote:
Dear friends,
For some reason many ccTLD's not being member of the ccNSO are now signing up (in a hurry) to the ccNSO. Somehow I think I'm missing somewhere a message or event that is important for ccNSO to be in good shape and have as many members as possible.
I'm going through every message and will try to find out the reason herefor.
Best regards,
Rudi Vansnick ALAC liaison ccNSO
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