[Fwd: [ALAC-Internal] At-Large FY08 Budget / Discretionary Items]
Forwarding to the public list out of frustration. --Wendy -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [ALAC-Internal] At-Large FY08 Budget / Discretionary Items Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:32:28 +0200 From: Nick Ashton-Hart <nick.ashton-hart@icann.org> To: alac-internal@atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org>, secretariat@atlarge-lists.icann.org Dear ALAC Members and Secretariats: I believe that most, if not all, of you have seen this before, it was a part of Doug Brent's presentation on budgeting which was provided at the ALAC Meeting in San Juan. For those who are new, please be aware that this level of detail is not commonly available to any other community in ICANN. When numbers such as these have, in the past, been made public, it has resulted in problems for the community - especially since other communities do not get travel support at all - let alone for 35 people to attend each ICANN Meeting. You are invited to use your judgment, knowing these facts, in deciding whether or not to forward the attached. -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 email: nick.ashton-hart@icann.org <mailto:nick.ashton-hart@icann.org> Win IM: ashtonhart@hotmail.com <mailto:ashtonhart@hotmail.com> / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart@mac.com <mailto:nashtonhart@mac.com> / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart _______________________________________________ ALAC-Internal mailing list ALAC-Internal@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-internal_atlarge-lists.... ALAC Wiki: http://st.icann.org/alac ALAC Official: http://alac.icann.org ALAC Independent: http://www.icannalac.org
Wendy: Three quick comments 1. As one who is keen that both at-large, alac and ICANN be as open and transparent as possible in all its processes - i do thank you for forwarding the details to the public list. 2. A participatory budgeting process, would in my opinion - yield cost savings that could yield cost savings used instead to perform awareness raising, education and public outreach. Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participatory_budgeting As Darlene points out in an earlier email, only with effective outreach and education can ALS's and the "public at large" effectively participate in the policy processes taking place at ICANN 3. I believe that the internal alac list is being used far too often for larger "at-large" discussions that should instead be taking place on the public list. In cases where confidentiality is needed, then the ALAC should - 1. a-priori define what areas are defined as "internal" and to be kept confidential, 2. regularly produce summaries of discussions taking place on the internal list for the At-large community. On 13-Oct-07, at 6:57 PM, Wendy Seltzer wrote:
Forwarding to the public list out of frustration.
--Wendy
Bret Fausett wrote:
Forwarding to the public list out of frustration.
For those of us who were not privy to the discussion that prompted this, can we have some context? What does the spreadsheet represent? Is that the ALAC budget, or something else?
It's the budget At-Large is charged with, over which neither ALAC nor its participating constituents have discretionary authority. Hence the difficulty in moving educational projects forward. --Wendy -- Wendy Seltzer -- wendy@seltzer.org Visiting Professor, Northeastern University School of Law Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html http://www.chillingeffects.org/ http://www.torproject.org/
Pardon my falling behind, I've been in the USVI for the past several weeks. re: "It's the budget At-Large is charged with, over which neither ALAC nor its participating constituents have discretionary authority. Hence the difficulty in moving educational projects forward."--Wendy Who does have discretionary authority over these items?? I would like to point out 2 line items: Other consultants - 36,300 Telephone Network - 24,000 *If there are images in this attachment, they will not be displayed.* Download the original attachment <?attid=0.1&disp=attd&view=att&th=1159b282d791a214> *Page 1* *Page 1 of 1* *FY 07/08 BUDGET* *Description* Travel - Air - 1st Meeting 95,393.68 Travel - Meals - 1st Meeting 6,702.48 Travel - Visa and Exit Fees - 1st Meeting 652.93 Travel - Hotel - 1st Meeting 26,423.48 Transportation - Other - 1st Meeting 4,077.45 Travel - Air - 2nd Meeting 95,393.68 Travel - Meals - 2nd Meeting 6,702.48 Travel - Visa and Exit Fees - 2nd Meeting 652.93 Travel - Hotel - 2nd Meeting 26,423.48 Transportation - Other - 2nd Meeting 4,077.45 Travel - Air - 3rd Meeting 95,393.68 Travel - Meals - 3rd Meeting 6,702.48 Travel - Visa and Exit Fees - 3rd Meeting 652.93 Travel - Hotel - 3rd Meeting 26,423.48 Transportation - Other - 3rd Meeting 4,077.45 *6XXX Total* *399,750* *$ * Travel - Air - Other 7,445.36 Travel - Meals - Other 523.12 Travel - Visa and Exit Fees - Other 50.96 Travel - Hotel - Other 2,062.32 Transportation - Other - Other 318.24 *7XXX Total* *10,400* *$ * Other Consultants 36,300.00 Translation 9,600.00 *8XXX Total* *45,900* *$ * Computer Supplies 5,000.00 Warranties & Service Contracts 26,400.00 Telephone/Network 24,000.00 *9XXX Total* *55,400* *$ * *Grand Total* *511,450* *$ * *At-Large* *Department 20 Discretionary Budget Items* *FISCAL YEAR THROUGH PERIOD ENDING JUNE 2008* Dept - 20-Tpl *Excludes Non Discretionary Expenses* 8/10/07 / 18:27 On 10/13/07, Wendy Seltzer <wendy@seltzer.com> wrote:
Forwarding to the public list out of frustration.
--Wendy
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [ALAC-Internal] At-Large FY08 Budget / Discretionary Items Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:32:28 +0200 From: Nick Ashton-Hart <nick.ashton-hart@icann.org> To: alac-internal@atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org>, secretariat@atlarge-lists.icann.org
Dear ALAC Members and Secretariats:
I believe that most, if not all, of you have seen this before, it was a part of Doug Brent's presentation on budgeting which was provided at the ALAC Meeting in San Juan.
For those who are new, please be aware that this level of detail is not commonly available to any other community in ICANN. When numbers such as these have, in the past, been made public, it has resulted in problems for the community - especially since other communities do not get travel support at all - let alone for 35 people to attend each ICANN Meeting. You are invited to use your judgment, knowing these facts, in deciding whether or not to forward the attached. -- Regards,
Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 email: nick.ashton-hart@icann.org <mailto:nick.ashton-hart@icann.org> Win IM: ashtonhart@hotmail.com <mailto:ashtonhart@hotmail.com> / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart@mac.com <mailto:nashtonhart@mac.com> / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart
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ICANN. It’s ICANN’s funds, and they determine where they want to spend their $$, but ask for input from the constituency. From: RJGlass | America@Large [mailto:jipshida@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 17:00 To: Wendy Seltzer Cc: At-Large writ small Subject: Re: [At-Large] [Fwd: [ALAC-Internal] At-Large FY08 Budget / Discretionary Items] Pardon my falling behind, I've been in the USVI for the past several weeks. re: "It's the budget At-Large is charged with, over which neither ALAC nor its participating constituents have discretionary authority. Hence the difficulty in moving educational projects forward."--Wendy Who does have discretionary authority over these items?? I would like to point out 2 line items: Other consultants - 36,300 Telephone Network - 24,000 If there are images in this attachment, they will not be displayed. Download the original attachment Page 1 Page 1 of 1 FY 07/08 BUDGET Description Travel - Air - 1st Meeting 95,393.68 Travel - Meals - 1st Meeting 6,702.48 Travel - Visa and Exit Fees - 1st Meeting 652.93 Travel - Hotel - 1st Meeting 26,423.48 Transportation - Other - 1st Meeting 4,077.45 Travel - Air - 2nd Meeting 95,393.68 Travel - Meals - 2nd Meeting 6,702.48 Travel - Visa and Exit Fees - 2nd Meeting 652.93 Travel - Hotel - 2nd Meeting 26,423.48 Transportation - Other - 2nd Meeting 4,077.45 Travel - Air - 3rd Meeting 95,393.68 Travel - Meals - 3rd Meeting 6,702.48 Travel - Visa and Exit Fees - 3rd Meeting 652.93 Travel - Hotel - 3rd Meeting 26,423.48 Transportation - Other - 3rd Meeting 4,077.45 6XXX Total 399,750 $ Travel - Air - Other 7,445.36 Travel - Meals - Other 523.12 Travel - Visa and Exit Fees - Other 50.96 Travel - Hotel - Other 2,062.32 Transportation - Other - Other 318.24 7XXX Total 10,400 $ Other Consultants 36,300.00 Translation 9,600.00 8XXX Total 45,900 $ Computer Supplies 5,000.00 Warranties & Service Contracts 26,400.00 Telephone/Network 24,000.00 9XXX Total 55,400 $ Grand Total 511,450 $ At-Large Department 20 Discretionary Budget Items FISCAL YEAR THROUGH PERIOD ENDING JUNE 2008 Dept - 20-Tpl Excludes Non Discretionary Expenses 8/10/07 / 18:27 On 10/13/07, Wendy Seltzer <HYPERLINK "mailto:wendy@seltzer.com"wendy@seltzer.com> wrote: Forwarding to the public list out of frustration. --Wendy -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [ALAC-Internal] At-Large FY08 Budget / Discretionary Items Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:32:28 +0200 From: Nick Ashton-Hart <HYPERLINK "mailto:nick.ashton-hart@icann.org"nick.ashton-hart@icann.org> To: HYPERLINK "mailto:alac-internal@atlarge-lists.icann.org"alac-internal@atlarge-lists.ic ann.org CC: Evan Leibovitch <HYPERLINK "mailto:evan@telly.org"evan@telly.org>, HYPERLINK "mailto:secretariat@atlarge-lists.icann.org"secretariat@atlarge-lists.icann. org Dear ALAC Members and Secretariats: I believe that most, if not all, of you have seen this before, it was a part of Doug Brent's presentation on budgeting which was provided at the ALAC Meeting in San Juan. For those who are new, please be aware that this level of detail is not commonly available to any other community in ICANN. When numbers such as these have, in the past, been made public, it has resulted in problems for the community - especially since other communities do not get travel support at all - let alone for 35 people to attend each ICANN Meeting. You are invited to use your judgment, knowing these facts, in deciding whether or not to forward the attached. -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 email: HYPERLINK "mailto:nick.ashton-hart@icann.org"nick.ashton-hart@icann.org <mailto:HYPERLINK "mailto:nick.ashton-hart@icann.org" nick.ashton-hart@icann.org> Win IM: HYPERLINK "mailto:ashtonhart@hotmail.com"ashtonhart@hotmail.com <mailto:HYPERLINK "mailto:ashtonhart@hotmail.com" ashtonhart@hotmail.com> / AIM/iSight: HYPERLINK "mailto:nashtonhart@mac.com"nashtonhart@mac.com <mailto:HYPERLINK "mailto:nashtonhart@mac.com" nashtonhart@mac.com> / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: HYPERLINK "https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart" \nhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart _______________________________________________ ALAC-Internal mailing list HYPERLINK "mailto:ALAC-Internal@atlarge-lists.icann.org"ALAC-Internal@atlarge-lists.ic ann.org HYPERLINK "http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-internal_atlarge-lists .icann.org" \nhttp://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-internal_atlarge-list s.icann.org ALAC Wiki: HYPERLINK "http://st.icann.org/alac" \nhttp://st.icann.org/alac ALAC Official: HYPERLINK "http://alac.icann.org" \nhttp://alac.icann.org ALAC Independent: HYPERLINK "http://www.icannalac.org" \nhttp://www.icannalac.org _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list HYPERLINK "mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org"ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org HYPERLINK "http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.or g" \nhttp://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.o rg At-Large Official Site: HYPERLINK "http://www.alac.icann.org" \nhttp://www.alac.icann.org ALAC Independent: HYPERLINK "http://www.icannalac.org" \nhttp://www.icannalac.org -- ------------------------- AmericaAtLarge.org RJPacific.com DDMF.org No virus found in this incoming message. 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Randy: The expenditure of the funds of ICANN is and shall remain the direct responsibility of the staff, answerable to the Board, to answer your question. The Bylaws prescribe the mechanisms by which the Budget of ICANN is created and approved, which provides several opportunities for all stakeholders to provide input before a budget is finalised. When the community wishes to have funding for some activity during a budget year there is a posted process by which this is done. I draw your attention to my many previous postings on this and related questions. -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 email: nick.ashton-hart@icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart@hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart@mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 email: nick.ashton-hart@icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart@hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart@mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart On 16 Oct 2007, at 22:59, RJGlass | America@Large wrote:
Pardon my falling behind, I've been in the USVI for the past several weeks.
re: "It's the budget At-Large is charged with, over which neither ALAC nor its participating constituents have discretionary authority. Hence the difficulty in moving educational projects forward."--Wendy
Who does have discretionary authority over these items??
I would like to point out 2 line items: Other consultants - 36,300 Telephone Network - 24,000
If there are images in this attachment, they will not be displayed. Download the original attachment Page 1 Page 1 of 1 FY 07/08 BUDGET Description Travel - Air - 1st Meeting 95,393.68 Travel - Meals - 1st Meeting 6,702.48 Travel - Visa and Exit Fees - 1st Meeting 652.93 Travel - Hotel - 1st Meeting 26,423.48 Transportation - Other - 1st Meeting 4,077.45 Travel - Air - 2nd Meeting 95,393.68 Travel - Meals - 2nd Meeting 6,702.48 Travel - Visa and Exit Fees - 2nd Meeting 652.93 Travel - Hotel - 2nd Meeting 26,423.48 Transportation - Other - 2nd Meeting 4,077.45 Travel - Air - 3rd Meeting 95,393.68 Travel - Meals - 3rd Meeting 6,702.48 Travel - Visa and Exit Fees - 3rd Meeting 652.93 Travel - Hotel - 3rd Meeting 26,423.48 Transportation - Other - 3rd Meeting 4,077.45 6XXX Total 399,750 $ Travel - Air - Other 7,445.36 Travel - Meals - Other 523.12 Travel - Visa and Exit Fees - Other 50.96 Travel - Hotel - Other 2,062.32 Transportation - Other - Other 318.24 7XXX Total 10,400 $ Other Consultants 36,300.00 Translation 9,600.00 8XXX Total 45,900 $ Computer Supplies 5,000.00 Warranties & Service Contracts 26,400.00 Telephone/Network 24,000.00 9XXX Total 55,400 $ Grand Total 511,450 $ At-Large Department 20 Discretionary Budget Items FISCAL YEAR THROUGH PERIOD ENDING JUNE 2008 Dept - 20-Tpl Excludes Non Discretionary Expenses 8/10/07 / 18:27
On 10/13/07, Wendy Seltzer <wendy@seltzer.com> wrote: Forwarding to the public list out of frustration.
--Wendy
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [ALAC-Internal] At-Large FY08 Budget / Discretionary Items Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:32:28 +0200 From: Nick Ashton-Hart <nick.ashton-hart@icann.org> To: alac-internal@atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org>, secretariat@atlarge- lists.icann.org
Dear ALAC Members and Secretariats:
I believe that most, if not all, of you have seen this before, it was a part of Doug Brent's presentation on budgeting which was provided at the ALAC Meeting in San Juan.
For those who are new, please be aware that this level of detail is not commonly available to any other community in ICANN. When numbers such as these have, in the past, been made public, it has resulted in problems for the community - especially since other communities do not get travel support at all - let alone for 35 people to attend each ICANN Meeting. You are invited to use your judgment, knowing these facts, in deciding whether or not to forward the attached. -- Regards,
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Thanks Nick, So, just to drill this down, who within NARALO would be the point person in requesting funds for NARALO purposes? aloha, RJ A@L On 10/17/07, Nick Ashton-Hart <nick.ashton-hart@icann.org> wrote:
Randy: The expenditure of the funds of ICANN is and shall remain the direct responsibility of the staff, answerable to the Board, to answer your question.
The Bylaws prescribe the mechanisms by which the Budget of ICANN is created and approved, which provides several opportunities for all stakeholders to provide input before a budget is finalised.
When the community wishes to have funding for some activity during a budget year there is a posted process by which this is done.
I draw your attention to my many previous postings on this and related questions.
-- Regards,
Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 email: nick.ashton-hart@icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart@hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart@mac.com / Skype:nashtonhartOnline Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart
-- Regards,
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On 16 Oct 2007, at 22:59, RJGlass | America@Large wrote:
Pardon my falling behind, I've been in the USVI for the past several weeks.
re: "It's the budget At-Large is charged with, over which neither ALAC nor its participating constituents have discretionary authority. Hence the difficulty in moving educational projects forward."--Wendy
Who does have discretionary authority over these items??
I would like to point out 2 line items: Other consultants - 36,300 Telephone Network - 24,000
*If there are images in this attachment, they will not be displayed.* Download the original attachment<http://?attid=0.1&disp=attd&view=att&th=1159b282d791a214> *Page 1* *Page 1 of 1* *FY 07/08 BUDGET* *Description* Travel - Air - 1st Meeting 95,393.68 Travel - Meals - 1st Meeting 6,702.48 Travel - Visa and Exit Fees - 1st Meeting 652.93 Travel - Hotel - 1st Meeting 26,423.48 Transportation - Other - 1st Meeting 4,077.45 Travel - Air - 2nd Meeting 95,393.68 Travel - Meals - 2nd Meeting 6,702.48 Travel - Visa and Exit Fees - 2nd Meeting 652.93 Travel - Hotel - 2nd Meeting 26,423.48 Transportation - Other - 2nd Meeting 4,077.45 Travel - Air - 3rd Meeting 95,393.68 Travel - Meals - 3rd Meeting 6,702.48 Travel - Visa and Exit Fees - 3rd Meeting 652.93 Travel - Hotel - 3rd Meeting 26,423.48 Transportation - Other - 3rd Meeting 4,077.45 *6XXX Total* *399,750* *$ * Travel - Air - Other 7,445.36 Travel - Meals - Other 523.12 Travel - Visa and Exit Fees - Other 50.96 Travel - Hotel - Other 2,062.32 Transportation - Other - Other 318.24 *7XXX Total* *10,400* *$ * Other Consultants 36,300.00 Translation 9,600.00 *8XXX Total* *45,900* *$ * Computer Supplies 5,000.00 Warranties & Service Contracts 26,400.00 Telephone/Network 24,000.00 *9XXX Total* *55,400* *$ * *Grand Total* *511,450* *$ * *At-Large* *Department 20 Discretionary Budget Items* *FISCAL YEAR THROUGH PERIOD ENDING JUNE 2008* Dept - 20-Tpl *Excludes Non Discretionary Expenses* 8/10/07 / 18:27
On 10/13/07, Wendy Seltzer <wendy@seltzer.com> wrote:
Forwarding to the public list out of frustration.
--Wendy
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [ALAC-Internal] At-Large FY08 Budget / Discretionary Items Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:32:28 +0200 From: Nick Ashton-Hart <nick.ashton-hart@icann.org> To: alac-internal@atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org>, secretariat@atlarge-lists.icann.org
Dear ALAC Members and Secretariats:
I believe that most, if not all, of you have seen this before, it was a part of Doug Brent's presentation on budgeting which was provided at the
ALAC Meeting in San Juan.
For those who are new, please be aware that this level of detail is not commonly available to any other community in ICANN. When numbers such as these have, in the past, been made public, it has resulted in problems for the community - especially since other communities do not get travel support at all - let alone for 35 people to attend each ICANN Meeting. You are invited to use your judgment, knowing these facts, in deciding whether or not to forward the attached. -- Regards,
Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 email: nick.ashton-hart@icann.org <mailto: nick.ashton-hart@icann.org> Win IM: ashtonhart@hotmail.com <mailto: ashtonhart@hotmail.com> / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart@mac.com <mailto: nashtonhart@mac.com> / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart
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What I would suggest is a review of the process in this connection, which can be found at: https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?icann_p_ps On 17 Oct 2007, at 13:09, RJGlass | America@Large wrote:
Thanks Nick,
So, just to drill this down, who within NARALO would be the point person in requesting funds for NARALO purposes?
aloha, RJ A@L
On 10/17/07, Nick Ashton-Hart <nick.ashton-hart@icann.org> wrote: Randy:
The expenditure of the funds of ICANN is and shall remain the direct responsibility of the staff, answerable to the Board, to answer your question.
The Bylaws prescribe the mechanisms by which the Budget of ICANN is created and approved, which provides several opportunities for all stakeholders to provide input before a budget is finalised.
When the community wishes to have funding for some activity during a budget year there is a posted process by which this is done.
I draw your attention to my many previous postings on this and related questions.
-- Regards,
Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 email: nick.ashton-hart@icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart@hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart@mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart
-- Regards,
Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 email: nick.ashton-hart@icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart@hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart@mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart
On 16 Oct 2007, at 22:59, RJGlass | America@Large wrote:
Pardon my falling behind, I've been in the USVI for the past several weeks.
re: "It's the budget At-Large is charged with, over which neither ALAC nor its participating constituents have discretionary authority. Hence the difficulty in moving educational projects forward."--Wendy
Who does have discretionary authority over these items??
I would like to point out 2 line items: Other consultants - 36,300 Telephone Network - 24,000
If there are images in this attachment, they will not be displayed. Download the original attachment Page 1 Page 1 of 1 FY 07/08 BUDGET Description Travel - Air - 1st Meeting 95,393.68 Travel - Meals - 1st Meeting 6,702.48 Travel - Visa and Exit Fees - 1st Meeting 652.93 Travel - Hotel - 1st Meeting 26,423.48 Transportation - Other - 1st Meeting 4,077.45 Travel - Air - 2nd Meeting 95,393.68 Travel - Meals - 2nd Meeting 6,702.48 Travel - Visa and Exit Fees - 2nd Meeting 652.93 Travel - Hotel - 2nd Meeting 26,423.48 Transportation - Other - 2nd Meeting 4,077.45 Travel - Air - 3rd Meeting 95,393.68 Travel - Meals - 3rd Meeting 6,702.48 Travel - Visa and Exit Fees - 3rd Meeting 652.93 Travel - Hotel - 3rd Meeting 26,423.48 Transportation - Other - 3rd Meeting 4,077.45 6XXX Total 399,750 $ Travel - Air - Other 7, 445.36 Travel - Meals - Other 523.12 Travel - Visa and Exit Fees - Other 50.96 Travel - Hotel - Other 2,062.32 Transportation - Other - Other 318.24 7XXX Total 10,400 $ Other Consultants 36,300.00 Translation 9,600.00 8XXX Total 45,900 $ Computer Supplies 5,000.00 Warranties & Service Contracts 26,400.00 Telephone/Network 24,000.00 9XXX Total 55,400 $ Grand Total 511,450 $ At-Large Department 20 Discretionary Budget Items FISCAL YEAR THROUGH PERIOD ENDING JUNE 2008 Dept - 20-Tpl Excludes Non Discretionary Expenses 8/10/07 / 18:27
On 10/13/07, Wendy Seltzer <wendy@seltzer.com> wrote: Forwarding to the public list out of frustration.
--Wendy
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [ALAC-Internal] At-Large FY08 Budget / Discretionary Items Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:32:28 +0200 From: Nick Ashton-Hart <nick.ashton-hart@icann.org> To: alac-internal@atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org>, secretariat@atlarge- lists.icann.org
Dear ALAC Members and Secretariats:
I believe that most, if not all, of you have seen this before, it was a part of Doug Brent's presentation on budgeting which was provided at the ALAC Meeting in San Juan.
For those who are new, please be aware that this level of detail is not commonly available to any other community in ICANN. When numbers such as these have, in the past, been made public, it has resulted in problems for the community - especially since other communities do not get travel support at all - let alone for 35 people to attend each ICANN Meeting. You are invited to use your judgment, knowing these facts, in deciding whether or not to forward the attached. -- Regards,
Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 email: nick.ashton-hart@icann.org <mailto: nick.ashton- hart@icann.org> Win IM: ashtonhart@hotmail.com <mailto: ashtonhart@hotmail.com> / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart@mac.com <mailto: nashtonhart@mac.com> / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart
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participants (6)
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Bret Fausett -
Jacqueline A. Morris -
Nick Ashton-Hart -
RJGlass | America＠Large -
Robert Guerra -
Wendy Seltzer