All, in San Juan, some people mentioned that it would be nice to establish reference measurements of the work of the liaisons, or actual KPIs. I have given a try to the concept, and drafted a list of quantitative and qualitative measurements that could be used to have an objective indication of the level of commitment and effectiveness of the liaisons. Also, something similar could be developed for the Chair and other internal positions. I do not know whether this could become a part of the work on the rules of procedure, or what else, but I find it a worthy idea and it would be good if we could follow up on it, gathering further ideas and finalizing the document. Perhaps we can discuss this in the conference call? Ciao, -- vb. Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu <-------- --------> finally with a new website at http://bertola.eu/ <--------
Vittorio: The agenda for the upcoming ALAC conference call seems pretty packed as it is. Adding a completely new item at this late stage, I do not think, gives either the broader at-large community nor the ALAC sufficient time to comment on and/or revise the text you propose. For the sake of both good time management and transparent policy development processes let me suggest the following.. First, - introduce - the reasoning behind your proposal here (in this open space) and to the ALAC. From there, the document should be considered by the at-large list for comment and review. Likely people will comment, and revise the document. Once there's rough agreement (rough consensus), then let it come back to the ALAC for their approval. In summary, I think liaisons are ultimately responsible not to the ALAC but the larger at-large community. Thus, their views and comments should be considered first. If the community agrees (ie. there's consensus agreement) then, a polished document that does not require line by line analysis by the ALAC will result. This raises a question - does At-Large have a defined policy development process? if not, then I suggest that be added as a task to complete on or by the Los Angeles ICANN meeting in the Fall. regards, Robert --- Robert Guerra <rguerra@privaterra.ca> Managing Director, Privaterra Tel +1 416 893 0377 On 7-Jul-07, at 8:52 AM, Vittorio Bertola wrote:
All,
in San Juan, some people mentioned that it would be nice to establish reference measurements of the work of the liaisons, or actual KPIs. I have given a try to the concept, and drafted a list of quantitative and qualitative measurements that could be used to have an objective indication of the level of commitment and effectiveness of the liaisons. Also, something similar could be developed for the Chair and other internal positions.
I do not know whether this could become a part of the work on the rules of procedure, or what else, but I find it a worthy idea and it would be good if we could follow up on it, gathering further ideas and finalizing the document. Perhaps we can discuss this in the conference call?
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Robert Guerra ha scritto:
Vittorio:
The agenda for the upcoming ALAC conference call seems pretty packed as it is. Adding a completely new item at this late stage, I do not think, gives either the broader at-large community nor the ALAC sufficient time to comment on and/or revise the text you propose.
I didn't mean that we go line by line or approve anything in the call - just briefly discuss whether this is useful and how to deal with its development, as some people in San Juan suggested that this could be a good idea. Also, about the agenda, I'm all with you for establishing some advance deadline for proposing issues for the call. However, this is not how we have been working - for example, good part of the last call (the June one) was occupied by an agenda item that was raised just two hours before the call. This is quite typical at ICANN - for example, Board members often get additional items and supporting 50-page documents less than 24 hours in advance of the meeting. Since May, the Board is asking the staff to submit whatever issue and document at least seven days in advance of the meeting, or else defer it to the next one; we might want to adopt the same principle. -- vb. Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu <-------- --------> finally with a new website at http://bertola.eu/ <--------
Vittorio: On 7-Jul-07, at 10:00 AM, Vittorio Bertola wrote:
Robert Guerra ha scritto:
Vittorio: The agenda for the upcoming ALAC conference call seems pretty packed as it is. Adding a completely new item at this late stage, I do not think, gives either the broader at-large community nor the ALAC sufficient time to comment on and/or revise the text you propose.
I didn't mean that we go line by line or approve anything in the call - just briefly discuss whether this is useful and how to deal with its development, as some people in San Juan suggested that this could be a good idea.
Also, about the agenda, I'm all with you for establishing some advance deadline for proposing issues for the call. However, this is not how we have been working - for example, good part of the last call (the June one) was occupied by an agenda item that was raised just two hours before the call. This is quite typical at ICANN - for example, Board members often get additional items and supporting 50-page documents less than 24 hours in advance of the meeting. Since May, the Board is asking the staff to submit whatever issue and document at least seven days in advance of the meeting, or else defer it to the next one; we might want to adopt the same principle.
Many persons at the recent San Juan meeting commented that need to improve the time management so as to be more productive as a committee and focus more on "advising" the board instead of spending way too much of our very valuable and scarce time together on minutiæ . A lesson learned from the recent meeting in San Juan is that one can easily be frustrated and complain. That can lead to all sorts of negative consequences. We should avoid that... A far more constructive approach is to focus on the underlying issues and suggest specific recommendations and working methods that can be adopted to help us work better and in a more open and transparent fashion that distributes the workload among us and engages the users - both at a regional level, as well as the larger unaffiliated community. Time allocation and project management techniques I think should be used. Not sure if that has been the case in the past. If it hasn't been the case, the i really recommend we implement them going forward. I think we'll be far more productive, and far less grumpy if we do . regards Robert
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