Dear All: Since I was an active member of the Geographic Regions Working Group and I accepted the report as a consensus document, I did not intend to make any further submissions. For to do so would, in effect, means I'm responding to my own output. However, reason and good judgment demands otherwise. My comments are prefaced by and dependent upon the English translation of the 'LACRALO Draft document'; attached to this original message and here, again. This draft blithely ignores several and sundry Caribbean ALS comments regarding this report and the work of the group, face-to-face, on LACRALO teleconferences as well as the mailing list. Our colleague Cintra Sooknanan has responded eloquently - and with some emotion - to this fact. On the balance of the facts therefore, this publication it is not quite ready to be termed a "LACRALO" document, much less a position. Secondly and again in deference to poor translation, specific comments are not supported by the contents of the report. The political maneuverings for domestic consumption aside and while it might be inconvenient to acknowledge, the report clearly states our findings for the principal use of geographic regions in the ICANN world; diversity in ICANN Board *representation*. Other uses came over time. So what matters most in concept is this notion of '*representation*'. And what this means, in practice; the ability to impact names and numbers policy development in some significant way. Thirdly, the report does not say or advocate for any geographic division usage in ICANN as 'advantageous'. Rather, it does recognize that 'geographic region' is a notional concept in ICANN. Meaning there is no consistency of use, either as a notional concept or in any interpretation for use. What the report advocates and indeed recommends is harmonization consistent with the representational notion. And it lays out a framework for action that might apply, if this is accepted. It offers the sense of 'geographic region' embraced by the RIRs as a good starting point. PLUS, acceptance of a few other actions in furtherance of the principal objective; * representation*. These include migrations of political units between and among existing ICANN regions. And allowing one-time self-selection by political units for regional attachments. This is not in furtherance of the perfect union but balanced *representation* A declaration that the report not '*contain any reference to terms of representation or participation in some regions*' is flawed and, well, let's say counterintuitive. In the first place *representation* is inherent to the use of 'geographic regions' in the ICANN world. In reference to the report itself and since it does not arise therein, I cannot account the concern re 'participation'. I'm hoping that this was suggested tongue in cheek. But if this was serious, it is a telling piece of evidence that the issues laid out in the report remain undigested. The use of the physical construct 'geographic region' in the ICANN world was to advance certain political objectives. A geographer - the physical planner professional- is hardly likely to impact here. Kind regards, - Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= 2011/12/18 presidencia Internauta Argentina <presidencia@internauta.org.ar>

Dear colleagues, I send LACRALO draft document on the declaration on the ALAC Review Working Group Geographic Regions in the draft version in English and Spanish Kind regrads --

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