To kick off the discussion, Since a large number of our group will be in Beijing, I don't think that we can afford not to meet there. We are starting far later than originally planned, but still trying to make the original deadline of 31-Dec. I think a 2nd face-to-face meeting near the start of our work is valuable, so it is either Beijing, or moving the entire group to somewhere else very close (in time) to the Beijing meeting. If we are looking for two days (which seems reasonable to me), there seem to be several potential options from the two days preceding the start of many meetings (Fri Apr 4, Sat Apr 5) and the three days after (Fri Apr 12, Sat Apr 13, Sun Apr 14). Note that some of us are scheduled for other meetings on Sat, Apr 5 (I am), but probably not enough to rule out that day. If we were to meet only after the ICANN week, my inclination would be to make it Sat-Sun to give people just a bit of time to clear their minds and get ready. So the options seems to be: a) 4, 5 (Before) b) 12, 13 (After with no break) c) 13, 14 (After with a break) d) 5, 12 (Split with no break) e) 5, 13 (Split with a break) I can live with any of these options but have a preference for a or c. Alan