Dear Review Team Members, The atrt2 email archives are currently private. Should the Review Team wish and decide to have the archives available to the public, we will make sure to open access. Thanks Very best Alice On 28/02/13 22:51, "Brian Cute" <bcute@pir.org> wrote:

Avri,

Here's the archive from ATRT1.

Regards, Brian

http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/at-review/

On 2/28/13 10:36 PM, "Avril Doria" <avri@acm.org> wrote:

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Hi,

I have been attending the WSIS+10 / IGF meeting in Paris this week. In a panel on WGIG+8, I spoke of the AOC and especially the ATRT as among the improvements that had been seen in Internet governance since the WGIG Report.

During that talk, I spoke of the ATRT function in the ICANN system and included mention of the transparency of the groups. Since then I have been asked whether our email archives are open, one of the hallmarks of a transparent group. I have assumed so, but don't know. We spoke of it, but I am ot sure where the discussion ended up. Are they, and what URL can I give people?

Thanks

avri

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I would support this. Alan At 04/03/2013 10:39 AM, Brian Cute wrote:

Alice,

Speaking only for myself, I would be in favor of having the email archives open. While ATRT2 has not yet adopted its methodology for conducting meetings/communications etc., I think defaulting to openness and transparency is the better approach. I would welcome the thoughts of all. Thanks.

Brian

On 3/4/13 10:35 AM, "Alice Jansen" <alice.jansen@icann.org> wrote:

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Dear Review Team Members,

The atrt2 email archives are currently private. Should the Review Team wish and decide to have the archives available to the public, we will make sure to open access.

Thanks

Very best

Alice

On 28/02/13 22:51, "Brian Cute" <bcute@pir.org> wrote:

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Avri,

Here's the archive from ATRT1.

Regards, Brian

http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/at-review/

On 2/28/13 10:36 PM, "Avril Doria" <avri@acm.org> wrote:

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Hi,

I have been attending the WSIS+10 / IGF meeting in Paris this week. In a panel on WGIG+8, I spoke of the AOC and especially the ATRT as among the improvements that had been seen in Internet governance since the WGIG Report.

During that talk, I spoke of the ATRT function in the ICANN system and included mention of the transparency of the groups. Since then I have been asked whether our email archives are open, one of the hallmarks of a transparent group. I have assumed so, but don't know. We spoke of it, but I am ot sure where the discussion ended up. Are they, and what URL can I give people?

Thanks

avri

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As others have expressed, I too am willing and interested in the vice-chair position, or for that matter, to serve the review team in any other way that I can. We will be meeting in a week and a half. Are we planning to defer any discussion of how we come to closure on these positions until we meet? Alan

Alan, I hesitated to make any suggestions since I have put my name forward for consideration. However, there have been no suggestions so far so let me make a couple and see how the group reacts. With 4 members having submitted their respective names to date, we could simply hold a vote in Los Angeles to determine the Chair and Vice Chair, Co-Chairs or Chair and Alternate Chair positions. Clearly, it would be efficient to agree to the Chair structure prior to Los Angeles, if possible. Perhaps we should discuss this question via email now to see if we can reach a consensus? Regards, Brian On 3/4/13 11:36 AM, "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote:

As others have expressed, I too am willing and interested in the vice-chair position, or for that matter, to serve the review team in any other way that I can.

We will be meeting in a week and a half. Are we planning to defer any discussion of how we come to closure on these positions until we meet?

Alan

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I am not running for any position, so I am not not conflicted. If there is anything we can do to move forward speedily, I'm in favor of it. Toward that end, my understanding is that we're in rough agreement to have two leaders. One is to be the chair. The other is to be either the vice chair, co-chair or alternate chair. 1. Can we make a decision before our face-to-face meeting as to what we want to call the second position? 2. I don't have the list in front of me regarding who has said they're interested in the first position and the second position. ALICE, can you supply those names? If anyone feels this is rushed and shouldn't be done before we meet in person, we'll hold off. On the other hand, if there are pieces we can get done ahead of time, so much the better. Thanks, Steve

Dear Steve, any orchestra can have only one conductor (=chair of the RT). Only when he/she is absent for whatever readon, the orchestra is temporarily managed by a reserve conductor (=vice-chair of the RT). Kind regards, Michael 2013/3/4 Steve Crocker <steve@shinkuro.com>

I am not running for any position, so I am not not conflicted. If there is anything we can do to move forward speedily, I'm in favor of it. Toward that end, my understanding is that we're in rough agreement to have two leaders. One is to be the chair. The other is to be either the vice chair, co-chair or alternate chair.

1. Can we make a decision before our face-to-face meeting as to what we want to call the second position?

2. I don't have the list in front of me regarding who has said they're interested in the first position and the second position. ALICE, can you supply those names?

If anyone feels this is rushed and shouldn't be done before we meet in person, we'll hold off. On the other hand, if there are pieces we can get done ahead of time, so much the better.

Thanks,

Steve

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Fully support this proposal Carlos Raul Enviado desde un dispositivo Blackberry® de Kolbi -----Original Message----- From: Alice Jansen <alice.jansen@icann.org> Sender: atrt2-bounces@icann.org Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 07:35:57 To: Brian Cute<bcute@pir.org>; Avril Doria<AvrilDoria@pir.org>; ATRT2<atrt2@icann.org> Subject: Re: [atrt2] Open Archive Dear Review Team Members, The atrt2 email archives are currently private. Should the Review Team wish and decide to have the archives available to the public, we will make sure to open access. Thanks Very best Alice On 28/02/13 22:51, "Brian Cute" <bcute@pir.org> wrote:

Avri,

Here's the archive from ATRT1.

Regards, Brian

http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/at-review/

On 2/28/13 10:36 PM, "Avril Doria" <avri@acm.org> wrote:

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Hi,

I have been attending the WSIS+10 / IGF meeting in Paris this week. In a panel on WGIG+8, I spoke of the AOC and especially the ATRT as among the improvements that had been seen in Internet governance since the WGIG Report.

During that talk, I spoke of the ATRT function in the ICANN system and included mention of the transparency of the groups. Since then I have been asked whether our email archives are open, one of the hallmarks of a transparent group. I have assumed so, but don't know. We spoke of it, but I am ot sure where the discussion ended up. Are they, and what URL can I give people?

Thanks

avri

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Several different things have been mentioned. Let's see if this list is complete. Also note there is one specific question we need answered. 1. Mail archive for ATRT2: Should be open. 2. Meetings posted in advance. 3. Remote participation for the members should be provided. 4. Streaming of the session should be provided. For the archive, or for others to watch in real-time? 5. I assume we're still planning to limit the participation to just the members of the team. If we want to have an open session with the community, that will be a separate decision. Please respond with whether streaming is intended just for the archive or for real-time following. And holler if my statements 1-3 and 5 are off the mark. Thanks, Steve

Hi, Just so I understand: the desire is to have meetings be open to anyone? Does this also hold true for the in-person meetings? Thanks, -drc On Mar 4, 2013, at 11:51 AM, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org> wrote:

On 4 Mar 2013, at 14:09, Steve Crocker wrote:

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4. Streaming of the session should be provided. For the archive, or for others to watch in real-time?

I was thinking of both. That allows for interested listeners to have the opportunity to provide input to the members that may have been endorsed by their SO/AC in real time, should they wish to.

thanks

avri

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Avri, Thanks for the clarification. I don't have qualms about the meetings being listened to. There might be some concerns about logistics, particularly for live streaming and/or room size for in-person meetings (I'd have no clue how big a room to reserve myself). Pragmatically speaking, would making transcripts of the meetings publicly available be sufficient? Regards, -drc On Mar 4, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org> wrote:

Hi,

Open in the sense of being listened to, was my point. I was not necessarily thinking of the LA sessions, especially, being physically open.

avri

On 4 Mar 2013, at 17:16, David Conrad wrote:

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Hi,

Just so I understand: the desire is to have meetings be open to anyone? Does this also hold true for the in-person meetings?

Thanks, -drc

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That's correct Larry. We didn't get many in-person observers but all the face-to-face meetings were open in that respect. And no, we did not allow observers to make interventions during the ATRT's work sessions. On 3/4/13 7:19 PM, "Larry Strickling" <LStrickling@ntia.doc.gov> wrote:

My recollection is that we allowed observers to attend any of our meetings. They did not participate but were allowed to attend and observe in person. Brian, do I remember correctly? ________________________________________ From: atrt2-bounces@icann.org [atrt2-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of David Conrad [drc@virtualized.org] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 6:44 PM To: Avri Doria Cc: ATRT2 Subject: Re: [atrt2] Open Archive

Avri,

Thanks for the clarification. I don't have qualms about the meetings being listened to. There might be some concerns about logistics, particularly for live streaming and/or room size for in-person meetings (I'd have no clue how big a room to reserve myself).

Pragmatically speaking, would making transcripts of the meetings publicly available be sufficient?

Regards, -drc

On Mar 4, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org> wrote:

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Hi,

Open in the sense of being listened to, was my point. I was not necessarily thinking of the LA sessions, especially, being physically open.

avri

On 4 Mar 2013, at 17:16, David Conrad wrote:

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Hi,

Just so I understand: the desire is to have meetings be open to anyone? Does this also hold true for the in-person meetings?

Thanks, -drc

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