This is a more constructive approach and consistent with what we are trying to achieve. Tim Smith General Manager Canadian International Pharmacy Association www.CIPA.com ________________________________ From: Cole, Mason (POR) <MCole@perkinscoie.com> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2022 9:58:31 AM To: lawrence@microboss.org <lawrence@microboss.org>; Marie Pattullo - AIM <marie.pattullo@aim.be> Cc: Timothy Smith <tim.smith@cipa.com>; Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org>; Brenda Brewer <brenda.brewer@icann.org>; BC Executive Committee <bc-excomm@icann.org>; Bc Communications <bc-communications@icann.org>; Carlos Reyes <carlos.reyes@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Bc-excomm] FW: [bc-communications] Social Media Posts Sorry to belabor this, team, but I wonder if something like this would be more constructive while still signaling the fact that abuse has not significantly been reduced: DNS Abuse is a high interest topic in the larger ICANN community with several stakeholders working on developing policy to mitigate and reduce abuse in the #DNS. The BC looks forward to constructively contributing to long-term solutions, as evidence for businesses is that abuse has not significantly abated. #ICANN #ICANNBC #DNS #Domains #DNSAbuse #Internet …I’m falling into Marie’s camp that if we just point out the ICANN report and that we think it’s misguided, it’s more sniping than anything else. Thoughts? Mason Cole | Perkins Coie LLP INTERNET GOVERNANCE ADVISOR 1120 N.W. Couch Street Tenth Floor D. +1.503.727.2074 E. MCole@perkinscoie.com<mailto:%20MCole@perkinscoie.com> From: Lawrence O. Olawale-Roberts <lawrence@microboss.org> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2022 3:45 AM To: Marie Pattullo - AIM <marie.pattullo@aim.be> Cc: Timothy Smith <tim.smith@cipa.com>; Cole, Mason (POR) <MCole@perkinscoie.com>; Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org>; Brenda Brewer <brenda.brewer@icann.org>; BC Executive Committee <bc-excomm@icann.org>; Bc Communications <bc-communications@icann.org>; Carlos Reyes <carlos.reyes@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Bc-excomm] FW: [bc-communications] Social Media Posts Thanks all for your comments and views on our proposed tweet on DNS Abuse. I have taken the liberty of infusing Tim's initial edit and Marie's thus: DNS Abuse is a high interest topic in the larger ICANN community with several stakeholders working on developing policy to mitigate and reduce abuse in the #DNS. ICANN has recently published a report using the data from the DAAR project that takes into consideration 4 years of data derived from multiple RBL (Reputation Block Lists), yet contrary to this report there is no practical evidence for business that abuse has gone down. Link to the full ICANN report we disagree with - https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/last-four-years-retrospect-brief-review-dns-abuse-trends-22mar22-en.pdf<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/last-four-years-retrospect-brief-review-dns-abuse-trends-22mar22-en.pdf__;!!K_R5ZAeIjLw!DYE0QjLiwRnXwouCSZHYAGU03Mr4r7yoGqYi7MmN7FYYGpfYcNyXUzrR19leY5pzoAt7ZbLZLZqOlZBt9ys$> #ICANN #ICANNBC #DNS #Domains #DNSAbuse #Internet Where we cannot adopt "1" as framed, I also support that we drop it from the list of materials to be posted. Lawrence. On 29/04/2022 10:21 am, Marie Pattullo - AIM via Bc-excomm wrote: Either don't post 1 at all, or use Tim's first edit with one addition: "...ICANN has recently published a report using the data from the DAAR project that takes into consideration 4 years of data derived from multiple RBL (Reputation Block Lists), yet there is no practical evidence from business that abuse has gone down. " It depends what you want to achieve. Here is a report, or here is a report we disagree with. What does it add? From: Bc-excomm <bc-excomm-bounces@icann.org<mailto:bc-excomm-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Timothy Smith via Bc-excomm Sent: Friday, 29 April 2022 02:07 To: Cole, Mason (POR) <MCole@perkinscoie.com<mailto:MCole@perkinscoie.com>>; Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org<mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org>>; Brenda Brewer <brenda.brewer@icann.org<mailto:brenda.brewer@icann.org>>; Bc-excomm <bc-excomm@icann.org<mailto:bc-excomm@icann.org>> Cc: Bc Communications <bc-communications@icann.org<mailto:bc-communications@icann.org>>; Carlos Reyes <carlos.reyes@icann.org<mailto:carlos.reyes@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Bc-excomm] FW: [bc-communications] Social Media Posts Either way, I will agree with the will of the ExComm. If not commenting on #1, that's OK. Tim Smith General Manager Canadian International Pharmacy Association www.cipa.com<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.cipa.com__;!!K_R5ZAeIjLw!AmPzTkMC8TSkS...> From: "Cole, Mason (POR)" <MCole@perkinscoie.com<mailto:MCole@perkinscoie.com>> Date: Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 6:04 PM To: Tim Smith <tim.smith@cipa.com<mailto:tim.smith@cipa.com>>, Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org<mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org>>, Brenda Brewer <brenda.brewer@icann.org<mailto:brenda.brewer@icann.org>>, Bc-excomm <bc-excomm@icann.org<mailto:bc-excomm@icann.org>> Cc: Bc Communications <bc-communications@icann.org<mailto:bc-communications@icann.org>>, Carlos Reyes <carlos.reyes@icann.org<mailto:carlos.reyes@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Bc-excomm] FW: [bc-communications] Social Media Posts I think I like your first edit better, Tim. Mason Cole | Perkins Coie LLP INTERNET GOVERNANCE ADVISOR 1120 N.W. Couch Street Tenth Floor D. +1.503.727.2074 E. MCole@perkinscoie.com<mailto:MCole@perkinscoie.com> From: Timothy Smith <tim.smith@cipa.com<mailto:tim.smith@cipa.com>> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2022 3:53 PM To: Cole, Mason (POR) <MCole@perkinscoie.com<mailto:MCole@perkinscoie.com>>; Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org<mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org>>; Brenda Brewer <brenda.brewer@icann.org<mailto:brenda.brewer@icann.org>>; Bc-excomm <bc-excomm@icann.org<mailto:bc-excomm@icann.org>> Cc: Bc Communications <bc-communications@icann.org<mailto:bc-communications@icann.org>>; Carlos Reyes <carlos.reyes@icann.org<mailto:carlos.reyes@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Bc-excomm] FW: [bc-communications] Social Media Posts Maybe change it to "...ICANN has recently published report using the data from the DAAR project that takes into consideration 4 years of data derived from multiple RBL (Reputation Block Lists), yet business efforts to address abuse have not diminished and we continue to be impacted." Or something like that. Tim Smith General Manager Canadian International Pharmacy Association www.cipa.com<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.cipa.com__;!!K_R5ZAeIjLw!AmPzTkMC8TSkS...> From: "Cole, Mason (POR)" <MCole@perkinscoie.com<mailto:MCole@perkinscoie.com>> Date: Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 5:45 PM To: Tim Smith <tim.smith@cipa.com<mailto:tim.smith@cipa.com>>, Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org<mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org>>, Brenda Brewer <brenda.brewer@icann.org<mailto:brenda.brewer@icann.org>>, Bc-excomm <bc-excomm@icann.org<mailto:bc-excomm@icann.org>> Cc: Bc Communications <bc-communications@icann.org<mailto:bc-communications@icann.org>>, Carlos Reyes <carlos.reyes@icann.org<mailto:carlos.reyes@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Bc-excomm] FW: [bc-communications] Social Media Posts I'm good with #2 as is and I can be persuaded to sign off on #1 with Tim's edit. Mason Cole | Perkins Coie LLP INTERNET GOVERNANCE ADVISOR 1120 N.W. Couch Street Tenth Floor D. +1.503.727.2074 E. MCole@perkinscoie.com<mailto:MCole@perkinscoie.com> From: Bc-excomm <bc-excomm-bounces@icann.org<mailto:bc-excomm-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Timothy Smith via Bc-excomm Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2022 7:27 AM To: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org<mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org>>; Brenda Brewer <brenda.brewer@icann.org<mailto:brenda.brewer@icann.org>>; Bc-excomm <bc-excomm@icann.org<mailto:bc-excomm@icann.org>> Cc: Bc Communications <bc-communications@icann.org<mailto:bc-communications@icann.org>>; Carlos Reyes <carlos.reyes@icann.org<mailto:carlos.reyes@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Bc-excomm] FW: [bc-communications] Social Media Posts All: I agree with Steve unless we consider revising #1 to remove word 'showcase' and perhaps modify with more of a BC slant and insert some language such as "...ICANN has recently published report using the data from the DAAR project that takes into consideration 4 years of data derived from multiple RBL (Reputation Block Lists), yet there is no practical evidence from business that abuse has gone down." From: Bc-excomm <bc-excomm-bounces@icann.org<mailto:bc-excomm-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Steve DelBianco via Bc-excomm <bc-excomm@icann.org<mailto:bc-excomm@icann.org>> Reply-To: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org<mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org>> Date: Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 8:31 AM To: Brenda Brewer <brenda.brewer@icann.org<mailto:brenda.brewer@icann.org>>, Bc-excomm <bc-excomm@icann.org<mailto:bc-excomm@icann.org>> Cc: Bc Communications <bc-communications@icann.org<mailto:bc-communications@icann.org>>, Carlos Reyes <carlos.reyes@icann.org<mailto:carlos.reyes@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Bc-excomm] FW: [bc-communications] Social Media Posts I support #2 but do not support issuing #1 under the BC name. The BC does not want to imply that we believe DNS abuse has declined. From: Bc-excomm <bc-excomm-bounces@icann.org<mailto:bc-excomm-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Brenda Brewer via Bc-excomm <bc-excomm@icann.org<mailto:bc-excomm@icann.org>> Date: Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 9:19 AM To: Bc-excomm <bc-excomm@icann.org<mailto:bc-excomm@icann.org>> Cc: Bc Communications <bc-communications@icann.org<mailto:bc-communications@icann.org>>, Carlos Reyes <carlos.reyes@icann.org<mailto:carlos.reyes@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Bc-excomm] FW: [bc-communications] Social Media Posts Dear BC ExComm, A kind follow-up to the inquiry below. BC Communications Committee is seeking ExComm approval of the social media draft posts noted below. Kind regards, Brenda From: Bc-excomm <bc-excomm-bounces@icann.org<mailto:bc-excomm-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Bc-excomm <bc-excomm@icann.org<mailto:bc-excomm@icann.org>> Reply-To: Brenda Brewer <brenda.brewer@icann.org<mailto:brenda.brewer@icann.org>> Date: Friday, April 1, 2022 at 12:12 PM To: Bc-excomm <bc-excomm@icann.org<mailto:bc-excomm@icann.org>> Cc: Bc Communications <bc-communications@icann.org<mailto:bc-communications@icann.org>>, Carlos Reyes <carlos.reyes@icann.org<mailto:carlos.reyes@icann.org>> Subject: [Bc-excomm] FW: [bc-communications] Social Media Posts Dear BC ExComm, Kindly review the draft posts below from the BC Communications Committee. They are seeking BC ExComm approval to post on BC's social media on behalf of the BC. To further explain, the decision was made during the BC Communication call on 1 April 2022 to have ICANN Secretariat, Brenda, forward email from BC Communications Committee with suggested posts for BC's social media platforms, ie: Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, etc. Upon BC Excomm receipt, review and approve or make suggested changes and return to me with BC Comms Committee copied. These emails will be limited to one per week. Kindly add this topic to the BC Excomm agenda for Thursday, 7 April at 14 UTC. In the meantime, feel free to review the posts below and offer feedback to BC Communications Committee. Thank you! Kind regards, Brenda From: bc-communications <bc-communications-bounces@icann.org<mailto:bc-communications-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Vivek Goyal <vivekg@LdotR.Red<mailto:vivekg@LdotR.Red>> Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 9:38 AM To: Bc Communications <bc-communications@icann.org<mailto:bc-communications@icann.org>> Subject: [bc-communications] Social Media Posts Hello All, Please find below two posts that we can possibly share on BC's SM channels 1. DNS Abuse is a high interest topic in the larger ICANN community with several stakeholders working on developing policy to mitigate and reduce abuse in the DNS system. ICANN has recently published report using the data from the DAAR project that showcases that the measured abuse has gone down over the years. The report takes into consideration 4 years of data derived from multiple RBL (Reputation Block Lists). Link to the full report - https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/last-four-years-retrospect-brief-review-dns-abuse-trends-22mar22-en.pdf<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/last-four-years-retrospect-brief-review-dns-abuse-trends-22mar22-en.pdf__;!!K_R5ZAeIjLw!DYE0QjLiwRnXwouCSZHYAGU03Mr4r7yoGqYi7MmN7FYYGpfYcNyXUzrR19leY5pzoAt7ZbLZLZqOlZBt9ys$> #ICANN #ICANNBC #DNS #Domains #DNSAbuse #Internet Image for this post is attached bleak PastedGraphic-1.tiff<cid:EFE38B03-EF08-4E3A-BEB4-611850469F8C> 2. The ICANN team has published the stats from the recently concluded meeting ICANN 73 which was a virtual session. One of the most striking number of all the stats that we noticed was the session with the maximum attendance and unsurprisingly it was "Evolving the DNS Abuse Conversation" with 576 unique members attending. 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