Draft board human rights commitment
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hello all, Motoko, Tatiana and I worked on a suggestion for a board human rights commitment as discussed during todays call. Please let me know if you have any comments: The board of ICANN commits to take concrete steps to operationalize its core value of respecting human rights within ICANN's mission. The steps will include working together with the community to understand the potential human rights impacts of its operations through a human rights impact assessment, engagement of the board, management, staff and stakeholders toward a common understanding of priority human rights issues, and putting in place a human rights policy to address the priority issues. Best, Niels - -- Niels ten Oever Head of Digital Article 19 www.article19.org PGP fingerprint 8D9F C567 BEE4 A431 56C4 678B 08B5 A0F2 636D 68E9 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWu1UZAAoJEAi1oPJjbWjprY4H/0w6noUgcwVqP6tyoZ9PiSbF bi1c9eTJG/fmLTAuYTwWDITiaSbmnGsHWio8IRiYLxEfLADYo5KxrfKlxWHWWbjZ Uoreh2dtVEewO/OgdNRplCvm17Ynv1zv8XbwZ6UjL+VLyUvFlRiD1YFZkE+9I2T5 Lg3BY7DTd4fgrRIMaGCp5roVnxM9U/r42VJ0y1gSMs/g3iW7z1muCQnlopFOzfai jl+n/YQIsJB0v+kwNIypXswcMzz8gI8UjcJb/0gUqenEHBWw6UbjLk357B4PXlao ACUXCSEUujbj9AxhdPgR2A9iknk38cZChaxdpLmXgh1HT4nt975f9UQguw0+iUc= =0d/k -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
I don’t understand it. What does it apply to exactly? -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains http://www.blacknight.host/ http://blog.blacknight.com/ http://ceo.hosting/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845 On 10/02/2016, 15:19, "cc-humanrights-bounces@icann.org on behalf of Niels ten Oever" <cc-humanrights-bounces@icann.org on behalf of niels@article19.org> wrote:
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Hello all,
Motoko, Tatiana and I worked on a suggestion for a board human rights commitment as discussed during todays call. Please let me know if you have any comments:
The board of ICANN commits to take concrete steps to operationalize its core value of respecting human rights within ICANN's mission. The steps will include working together with the community to understand the potential human rights impacts of its operations through a human rights impact assessment, engagement of the board, management, staff and stakeholders toward a common understanding of priority human rights issues, and putting in place a human rights policy to address the priority issues.
Best,
Niels
- -- Niels ten Oever Head of Digital
Article 19 www.article19.org
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 The board expressed in it comments to the CCWG report as well as on the CCWG list that it wants to make a human rights statement, we offered to provide a suggestion for this, and that is what is being discussed. Best, Niels Niels ten Oever Head of Digital Article 19 www.article19.org PGP fingerprint 8D9F C567 BEE4 A431 56C4 678B 08B5 A0F2 636D 68E9 On 02/10/2016 04:22 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
I don’t understand it.
What does it apply to exactly?
-- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains http://www.blacknight.host/ http://blog.blacknight.com/ http://ceo.hosting/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845
On 10/02/2016, 15:19, "cc-humanrights-bounces@icann.org on behalf of Niels ten Oever" <cc-humanrights-bounces@icann.org on behalf of niels@article19.org> wrote:
Hello all,
Motoko, Tatiana and I worked on a suggestion for a board human rights commitment as discussed during todays call. Please let me know if you have any comments:
The board of ICANN commits to take concrete steps to operationalize its core value of respecting human rights within ICANN's mission. The steps will include working together with the community to understand the potential human rights impacts of its operations through a human rights impact assessment, engagement of the board, management, staff and stakeholders toward a common understanding of priority human rights issues, and putting in place a human rights policy to address the priority issues.
Best,
Niels
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Niels Yes I know that. I still don’t understand what your draft statement means. That’s why I asked the question Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains http://www.blacknight.host/ http://blog.blacknight.com/ http://ceo.hosting/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845 On 10/02/2016, 15:23, "Niels ten Oever" <niels@article19.org> wrote:
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The board expressed in it comments to the CCWG report as well as on the CCWG list that it wants to make a human rights statement, we offered to provide a suggestion for this, and that is what is being discussed.
Best,
Niels
Niels ten Oever Head of Digital
Article 19 www.article19.org
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On 02/10/2016 04:22 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
I don’t understand it.
What does it apply to exactly?
-- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains http://www.blacknight.host/ http://blog.blacknight.com/ http://ceo.hosting/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845
On 10/02/2016, 15:19, "cc-humanrights-bounces@icann.org on behalf of Niels ten Oever" <cc-humanrights-bounces@icann.org on behalf of niels@article19.org> wrote:
Hello all,
Motoko, Tatiana and I worked on a suggestion for a board human rights commitment as discussed during todays call. Please let me know if you have any comments:
The board of ICANN commits to take concrete steps to operationalize its core value of respecting human rights within ICANN's mission. The steps will include working together with the community to understand the potential human rights impacts of its operations through a human rights impact assessment, engagement of the board, management, staff and stakeholders toward a common understanding of priority human rights issues, and putting in place a human rights policy to address the priority issues.
Best,
Niels
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi Michele, This statement means that the ICANN board will: 1. operationalize it's commitment to human rights 2. contribute to a Human Rights Impact Assessment with the community of stakeholders 3. contribute to the development of a Human Rights Policy with the community of stakeholders 4. work on a process for remediation. Does this make it more clear? If not, can you make your question a bit more precise? Best, Niels Niels ten Oever Head of Digital Article 19 www.article19.org PGP fingerprint 8D9F C567 BEE4 A431 56C4 678B 08B5 A0F2 636D 68E9 On 02/10/2016 04:24 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
The board of ICANN commits to take concrete steps to
operationalize its core value of respecting human rights within ICANN's mission. The steps will include working together with the community to understand the potential human rights impacts of its operations through a human rights impact assessment, engagement of the board, management, staff and stakeholders toward a common understanding of priority human rights issues, and putting in place a human rights policy to address the priority issues. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2
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Dear Niels, dear all, after reading this short email exchange with Michele, I realised that may be we have to be clearer when we send the proposed wording of the statement to the board. I suggest inclusion of the explanation "what it means". Furthermore, after the call yesterday I am still not convinced that we can be sure that the board wants to go further than the language provided in the bylaw. I can suggest as an alternative solution that we send two proposed statements: (1) the one we discussed on the call and which is based on the bylaw (2) the statement on operationalisation and assessment that we drafted after the call. In this case, depending on what was the notion behind making this statement, the board can either chose one of them or draft a combination of two. What do you think? Cheers Tanya On 10 February 2016 at 16:29, Niels ten Oever via cc-humanrights3 < cc-humanrights3@icann.org> wrote:
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Hi Michele,
This statement means that the ICANN board will:
1. operationalize it's commitment to human rights 2. contribute to a Human Rights Impact Assessment with the community of stakeholders 3. contribute to the development of a Human Rights Policy with the community of stakeholders 4. work on a process for remediation.
Does this make it more clear? If not, can you make your question a bit more precise?
Best,
Niels
Niels ten Oever Head of Digital
Article 19 www.article19.org
PGP fingerprint 8D9F C567 BEE4 A431 56C4 678B 08B5 A0F2 636D 68E9
On 02/10/2016 04:24 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
The board of ICANN commits to take concrete steps to
operationalize its core value of respecting human rights within ICANN's mission. The steps will include working together with the community to understand the potential human rights impacts of its operations through a human rights impact assessment, engagement of the board, management, staff and stakeholders toward a common understanding of priority human rights issues, and putting in place a human rights policy to address the priority issues. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2
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Tanya Exactly The proposed wording at the moment isn’t very clear to me. “operationalise its commitment to human rights” - whose? How? Are you talking about ICANN the corporate entity? The community? Are you trying to make something binding on contracted parties? What? “contribute to a Human Rights Impact Assessment with the community of stakeholders” - again this is unclear. Does it refer to the ICANN corporate entity? ICANN policies? ICANN contracts? What? “work on a process for remediation” - remediation of what? I’ve read and re-read that draft language several times and it’s not clear to me at all Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains http://www.blacknight.host/ http://blog.blacknight.com/ http://ceo.hosting/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: Tatiana Tropina <tatiana.tropina@gmail.com<mailto:tatiana.tropina@gmail.com>> Date: Thursday 11 February 2016 at 11:27 To: Niels ten Oever <niels@article19.org<mailto:niels@article19.org>> Cc: Michele Neylon <michele@blacknight.com<mailto:michele@blacknight.com>>, Human Rights <cc-humanrights@icann.org<mailto:cc-humanrights@icann.org>>, "cc-humanrights3@icann.org<mailto:cc-humanrights3@icann.org>" <cc-humanrights3@icann.org<mailto:cc-humanrights3@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Cc-humanrights3] [cc-humanrights] Draft board human rights commitment / statement Dear Niels, dear all, after reading this short email exchange with Michele, I realised that may be we have to be clearer when we send the proposed wording of the statement to the board. I suggest inclusion of the explanation "what it means". Furthermore, after the call yesterday I am still not convinced that we can be sure that the board wants to go further than the language provided in the bylaw. I can suggest as an alternative solution that we send two proposed statements: (1) the one we discussed on the call and which is based on the bylaw (2) the statement on operationalisation and assessment that we drafted after the call. In this case, depending on what was the notion behind making this statement, the board can either chose one of them or draft a combination of two. What do you think? Cheers Tanya On 10 February 2016 at 16:29, Niels ten Oever via cc-humanrights3 <cc-humanrights3@icann.org<mailto:cc-humanrights3@icann.org>> wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi Michele, This statement means that the ICANN board will: 1. operationalize it's commitment to human rights 2. contribute to a Human Rights Impact Assessment with the community of stakeholders 3. contribute to the development of a Human Rights Policy with the community of stakeholders 4. work on a process for remediation. Does this make it more clear? If not, can you make your question a bit more precise? Best, Niels Niels ten Oever Head of Digital Article 19 www.article19.org<http://www.article19.org> PGP fingerprint 8D9F C567 BEE4 A431 56C4 678B 08B5 A0F2 636D 68E9 On 02/10/2016 04:24 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
The board of ICANN commits to take concrete steps to
operationalize its core value of respecting human rights within ICANN's mission. The steps will include working together with the community to understand the potential human rights impacts of its operations through a human rights impact assessment, engagement of the board, management, staff and stakeholders toward a common understanding of priority human rights issues, and putting in place a human rights policy to address the priority issues. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi Michele, On 02/11/2016 12:33 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
Tanya
Exactly
The proposed wording at the moment isn’t very clear to me.
“operationalise its commitment to human rights” - whose? How? Are you talking about ICANN the corporate entity? The community? Are you trying to make something binding on contracted parties? What?
Nope, operationalizing the boards commitment. It's a statement by the board.
“contribute to a Human Rights Impact Assessment with the community of stakeholders” - again this is unclear. Does it refer to the ICANN corporate entity? ICANN policies? ICANN contracts? What?
ICANN Corporate entity.
“work on a process for remediation” - remediation of what?
Human rights impact, as per the third pillar of the Ruggie Principles.
I’ve read and re-read that draft language several times and it’s not clear to me at all
Hope it's clearer now. Best, Niels
Regards
Michele
-- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains http://www.blacknight.host/ http://blog.blacknight.com/ http://ceo.hosting/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845
From: Tatiana Tropina <tatiana.tropina@gmail.com <mailto:tatiana.tropina@gmail.com>> Date: Thursday 11 February 2016 at 11:27 To: Niels ten Oever <niels@article19.org <mailto:niels@article19.org>> Cc: Michele Neylon <michele@blacknight.com <mailto:michele@blacknight.com>>, Human Rights <cc-humanrights@icann.org <mailto:cc-humanrights@icann.org>>, "cc-humanrights3@icann.org <mailto:cc-humanrights3@icann.org>" <cc-humanrights3@icann.org <mailto:cc-humanrights3@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Cc-humanrights3] [cc-humanrights] Draft board human rights commitment / statement
Dear Niels, dear all, after reading this short email exchange with Michele, I realised that may be we have to be clearer when we send the proposed wording of the statement to the board. I suggest inclusion of the explanation "what it means". Furthermore, after the call yesterday I am still not convinced that we can be sure that the board wants to go further than the language provided in the bylaw. I can suggest as an alternative solution that we send two proposed statements: (1) the one we discussed on the call and which is based on the bylaw (2) the statement on operationalisation and assessment that we drafted after the call. In this case, depending on what was the notion behind making this statement, the board can either chose one of them or draft a combination of two. What do you think? Cheers Tanya
On 10 February 2016 at 16:29, Niels ten Oever via cc-humanrights3 <cc-humanrights3@icann.org <mailto:cc-humanrights3@icann.org>> wrote:
Hi Michele,
This statement means that the ICANN board will:
1. operationalize it's commitment to human rights 2. contribute to a Human Rights Impact Assessment with the community of stakeholders 3. contribute to the development of a Human Rights Policy with the community of stakeholders 4. work on a process for remediation.
Does this make it more clear? If not, can you make your question a bit more precise?
Best,
Niels
Niels ten Oever Head of Digital
Article 19 www.article19.org <http://www.article19.org>
PGP fingerprint 8D9F C567 BEE4 A431 56C4 678B 08B5 A0F2 636D 68E9
On 02/10/2016 04:24 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
The board of ICANN commits to take concrete steps to
operationalize its core value of respecting human rights within ICANN's mission. The steps will include working together with the community to understand the potential human rights impacts of its operations through a human rights impact assessment, engagement of the board, management, staff and stakeholders toward a common understanding of priority human rights issues, and putting in place a human rights policy to address the priority issues. _______________________________________________ cc-humanrights3 mailing list cc-humanrights3@icann.org <mailto:cc-humanrights3@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-humanrights3
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Wasn't on the call but Tatiana I think is pointing the right way. They are two different things. It seems to me that the commitment we need from the Board and perhaps the only one they might give at this stage until the FoI is undertaken is the commitment to the work in WS2. It would be a little unusual for them to go further than that given they were already skeptical of the bylaw. The second piece - ICANN's commitment to HR (not the Board's as it should be an organizational commitment) - would probably come as a result of the FoI. On 11/02/2016 11:27, Tatiana Tropina via cc-humanrights3 wrote:
Dear Niels, dear all, after reading this short email exchange with Michele, I realised that may be we have to be clearer when we send the proposed wording of the statement to the board. I suggest inclusion of the explanation "what it means". Furthermore, after the call yesterday I am still not convinced that we can be sure that the board wants to go further than the language provided in the bylaw. I can suggest as an alternative solution that we send two proposed statements: (1) the one we discussed on the call and which is based on the bylaw (2) the statement on operationalisation and assessment that we drafted after the call. In this case, depending on what was the notion behind making this statement, the board can either chose one of them or draft a combination of two. What do you think? Cheers Tanya
On 10 February 2016 at 16:29, Niels ten Oever via cc-humanrights3 <cc-humanrights3@icann.org <mailto:cc-humanrights3@icann.org>> wrote:
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Hi Michele,
This statement means that the ICANN board will:
1. operationalize it's commitment to human rights 2. contribute to a Human Rights Impact Assessment with the community of stakeholders 3. contribute to the development of a Human Rights Policy with the community of stakeholders 4. work on a process for remediation.
Does this make it more clear? If not, can you make your question a bit more precise?
Best,
Niels
Niels ten Oever Head of Digital
Article 19 www.article19.org <http://www.article19.org>
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On 02/10/2016 04:24 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote: > The board of ICANN commits to take concrete steps to >>> operationalize its core value of respecting human rights >>> within ICANN's mission. The steps will include working together >>> with the community to understand the potential human rights >>> impacts of its operations through a human rights impact >>> assessment, engagement of the board, management, staff and >>> stakeholders toward a common understanding of priority human >>> rights issues, and putting in place a human rights policy to >>> address the priority issues. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2
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Hi Matt Thanks You were not on the call, but this is exactly was I was trying to point out on the call, about the possibility to go further than the bylaw language. The question was why do we need the board's statement then if it rephrases and repeats the language itself. I still think that it is not a problem if the board statement is worded closely to the bylaw language. Since the bylaw won't be operational, the board's commitment to respecting human rights and continuing the work with the community in the WS2 have more than a mere symbolic meaning. The statement will show the willingness to commit, to continue the work and to operationalise the bylaw. My opinion: the simpler the better. This is why I think we have to give two options: a simple option and "forward looking" option. Best regards Tanya On 11 February 2016 at 12:36, Matthew Shears <mshears@cdt.org> wrote:
Wasn't on the call but Tatiana I think is pointing the right way. They are two different things. It seems to me that the commitment we need from the Board and perhaps the only one they might give at this stage until the FoI is undertaken is the commitment to the work in WS2. It would be a little unusual for them to go further than that given they were already skeptical of the bylaw. The second piece - ICANN's commitment to HR (not the Board's as it should be an organizational commitment) - would probably come as a result of the FoI.
On 11/02/2016 11:27, Tatiana Tropina via cc-humanrights3 wrote:
Dear Niels, dear all, after reading this short email exchange with Michele, I realised that may be we have to be clearer when we send the proposed wording of the statement to the board. I suggest inclusion of the explanation "what it means". Furthermore, after the call yesterday I am still not convinced that we can be sure that the board wants to go further than the language provided in the bylaw. I can suggest as an alternative solution that we send two proposed statements: (1) the one we discussed on the call and which is based on the bylaw (2) the statement on operationalisation and assessment that we drafted after the call. In this case, depending on what was the notion behind making this statement, the board can either chose one of them or draft a combination of two. What do you think? Cheers Tanya
On 10 February 2016 at 16:29, Niels ten Oever via cc-humanrights3 < <cc-humanrights3@icann.org>cc-humanrights3@icann.org> wrote:
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Hi Michele,
This statement means that the ICANN board will:
1. operationalize it's commitment to human rights 2. contribute to a Human Rights Impact Assessment with the community of stakeholders 3. contribute to the development of a Human Rights Policy with the community of stakeholders 4. work on a process for remediation.
Does this make it more clear? If not, can you make your question a bit more precise?
Best,
Niels
Niels ten Oever Head of Digital
Article 19 www.article19.org
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On 02/10/2016 04:24 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
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operationalize its core value of respecting human rights within ICANN's mission. The steps will include working together with the community to understand the potential human rights impacts of its operations through a human rights impact assessment, engagement of the board, management, staff and stakeholders toward a common understanding of priority human rights issues, and putting in place a human rights policy to address the priority issues. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi all, I would like to propose the following message to the board. It's addressed to Bruce because we discussed this with him on the CCWG list. All you input on the mail or the two texts are very welcome, but I'd like to send the email soon. Dear Bruce, Hereby the Cross Community Working Party on ICANN's Corporate and Social Responsibility to Respect Human Rights would like to propose two suggestions for the Human Rights statement that the board is intending to make. One statement stays very close to the agreed bylaw language, and the other takes a more forward leaning position. We hope that these texts provide a useful input to your deliberations. Please let us know if you have any questions or suggestions or if we can be of any help. 1. The ICANN board commits to respecting human rights within ICANN's core values and mission. The Board will work together with the community to identify where ICANN's policies and operations can impact human rights and will seek to ensure that no human rights are adversely impacted. Furthermore, within its mission, ICANN will seek to review its processes for remediation to ensure that mechanisms are in place to redress if need be. 2. The board of ICANN commits to take concrete steps to operationalize its core value of respecting human rights withing ICANN's mission. The steps will include working together with the community to understand the potential human rights impacts of its operations through a human rights impact assessment, and engagement of the board, management, staff and stakeholders toward a common understanding of priority human rights issues, which would culminate in a human rights report, and putting in place a human rights remediation policy to address adverse human rights impacts. Best, Niels Niels ten Oever Head of Digital Article 19 www.article19.org PGP fingerprint 8D9F C567 BEE4 A431 56C4 678B 08B5 A0F2 636D 68E9 On 02/11/2016 12:42 PM, Tatiana Tropina wrote:
Hi Matt
Thanks
You were not on the call, but this is exactly was I was trying to point out on the call, about the possibility to go further than the bylaw language. The question was why do we need the board's statement then if it rephrases and repeats the language itself. I still think that it is not a problem if the board statement is worded closely to the bylaw language. Since the bylaw won't be operational, the board's commitment to respecting human rights and continuing the work with the community in the WS2 have more than a mere symbolic meaning. The statement will show the willingness to commit, to continue the work and to operationalise the bylaw.
My opinion: the simpler the better.
This is why I think we have to give two options: a simple option and "forward looking" option.
Best regards Tanya
On 11 February 2016 at 12:36, Matthew Shears <mshears@cdt.org <mailto:mshears@cdt.org>> wrote:
Wasn't on the call but Tatiana I think is pointing the right way. They are two different things. It seems to me that the commitment we need from the Board and perhaps the only one they might give at this stage until the FoI is undertaken is the commitment to the work in WS2. It would be a little unusual for them to go further than that given they were already skeptical of the bylaw. The second piece - ICANN's commitment to HR (not the Board's as it should be an organizational commitment) - would probably come as a result of the FoI.
On 11/02/2016 11:27, Tatiana Tropina via cc-humanrights3 wrote:
Dear Niels, dear all, after reading this short email exchange with Michele, I realised that may be we have to be clearer when we send the proposed wording of the statement to the board. I suggest inclusion of the explanation "what it means". Furthermore, after the call yesterday I am still not convinced that we can be sure that the board wants to go further than the language provided in the bylaw. I can suggest as an alternative solution that we send two proposed statements: (1) the one we discussed on the call and which is based on the bylaw (2) the statement on operationalisation and assessment that we drafted after the call. In this case, depending on what was the notion behind making this statement, the board can either chose one of them or draft a combination of two. What do you think? Cheers Tanya
On 10 February 2016 at 16:29, Niels ten Oever via cc-humanrights3 <<mailto:cc-humanrights3@icann.org>cc-humanrights3@icann.org <mailto:cc-humanrights3@icann.org>> wrote:
Hi Michele,
This statement means that the ICANN board will:
1. operationalize it's commitment to human rights 2. contribute to a Human Rights Impact Assessment with the community of stakeholders 3. contribute to the development of a Human Rights Policy with the community of stakeholders 4. work on a process for remediation.
Does this make it more clear? If not, can you make your question a bit more precise?
Best,
Niels
Niels ten Oever Head of Digital
Article 19 www.article19.org <http://www.article19.org>
PGP fingerprint 8D9F C567 BEE4 A431 56C4 678B 08B5 A0F2 636D 68E9
On 02/10/2016 04:24 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
The board of ICANN commits to take concrete steps to
operationalize its core value of respecting human rights within ICANN's mission. The steps will include working together with the community to understand the potential human rights impacts of its operations through a human rights impact assessment, engagement of the board, management, staff and stakeholders toward a common understanding of priority human rights issues, and putting in place a human rights policy to address the priority issues. _______________________________________________ cc-humanrights3 mailing list cc-humanrights3@icann.org <mailto:cc-humanrights3@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-humanrights3
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I am OK with this. Cheers Tanya On 11 Feb 2016 17:58, "Niels ten Oever" <niels@article19.org> wrote:
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Hi all,
I would like to propose the following message to the board. It's addressed to Bruce because we discussed this with him on the CCWG list. All you input on the mail or the two texts are very welcome, but I'd like to send the email soon.
Dear Bruce,
Hereby the Cross Community Working Party on ICANN's Corporate and Social Responsibility to Respect Human Rights would like to propose two suggestions for the Human Rights statement that the board is intending to make. One statement stays very close to the agreed bylaw language, and the other takes a more forward leaning position.
We hope that these texts provide a useful input to your deliberations. Please let us know if you have any questions or suggestions or if we can be of any help.
1. The ICANN board commits to respecting human rights within ICANN's core values and mission. The Board will work together with the community to identify where ICANN's policies and operations can impact human rights and will seek to ensure that no human rights are adversely impacted. Furthermore, within its mission, ICANN will seek to review its processes for remediation to ensure that mechanisms are in place to redress if need be.
2. The board of ICANN commits to take concrete steps to operationalize its core value of respecting human rights withing ICANN's mission. The steps will include working together with the community to understand the potential human rights impacts of its operations through a human rights impact assessment, and engagement of the board, management, staff and stakeholders toward a common understanding of priority human rights issues, which would culminate in a human rights report, and putting in place a human rights remediation policy to address adverse human rights impacts.
Best,
Niels
Niels ten Oever Head of Digital
Article 19 www.article19.org
PGP fingerprint 8D9F C567 BEE4 A431 56C4 678B 08B5 A0F2 636D 68E9
On 02/11/2016 12:42 PM, Tatiana Tropina wrote:
Hi Matt
Thanks
You were not on the call, but this is exactly was I was trying to point out on the call, about the possibility to go further than the bylaw language. The question was why do we need the board's statement then if it rephrases and repeats the language itself. I still think that it is not a problem if the board statement is worded closely to the bylaw language. Since the bylaw won't be operational, the board's commitment to respecting human rights and continuing the work with the community in the WS2 have more than a mere symbolic meaning. The statement will show the willingness to commit, to continue the work and to operationalise the bylaw.
My opinion: the simpler the better.
This is why I think we have to give two options: a simple option and "forward looking" option.
Best regards Tanya
On 11 February 2016 at 12:36, Matthew Shears <mshears@cdt.org <mailto:mshears@cdt.org>> wrote:
Wasn't on the call but Tatiana I think is pointing the right way. They are two different things. It seems to me that the commitment we need from the Board and perhaps the only one they might give at this stage until the FoI is undertaken is the commitment to the work in WS2. It would be a little unusual for them to go further than that given they were already skeptical of the bylaw. The second piece - ICANN's commitment to HR (not the Board's as it should be an organizational commitment) - would probably come as a result of the FoI.
On 11/02/2016 11:27, Tatiana Tropina via cc-humanrights3 wrote:
Dear Niels, dear all, after reading this short email exchange with Michele, I realised that may be we have to be clearer when we send the proposed wording of the statement to the board. I suggest inclusion of the explanation "what it means". Furthermore, after the call yesterday I am still not convinced that we can be sure that the board wants to go further than the language provided in the bylaw. I can suggest as an alternative solution that we send two proposed statements: (1) the one we discussed on the call and which is based on the bylaw (2) the statement on operationalisation and assessment that we drafted after the call. In this case, depending on what was the notion behind making this statement, the board can either chose one of them or draft a combination of two. What do you think? Cheers Tanya
On 10 February 2016 at 16:29, Niels ten Oever via cc-humanrights3 <<mailto:cc-humanrights3@icann.org>cc-humanrights3@icann.org <mailto:cc-humanrights3@icann.org>> wrote:
Hi Michele,
This statement means that the ICANN board will:
1. operationalize it's commitment to human rights 2. contribute to a Human Rights Impact Assessment with the community of stakeholders 3. contribute to the development of a Human Rights Policy with the community of stakeholders 4. work on a process for remediation.
Does this make it more clear? If not, can you make your question a bit more precise?
Best,
Niels
Niels ten Oever Head of Digital
Article 19 www.article19.org <http://www.article19.org>
PGP fingerprint 8D9F C567 BEE4 A431 56C4 678B 08B5 A0F2 636D 68E9
On 02/10/2016 04:24 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
The board of ICANN commits to take concrete steps to
operationalize its core value of respecting human rights within ICANN's mission. The steps will include working together with the community to understand the potential human rights impacts of its operations through a human rights impact assessment, engagement of the board, management, staff and stakeholders toward a common understanding of priority human rights issues, and putting in place a human rights policy to address the priority issues. _______________________________________________ cc-humanrights3 mailing list cc-humanrights3@icann.org <mailto:cc-humanrights3@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-humanrights3
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Good work Niels. I agree with the new approach of the 2 statements.
From the legal draftsman's point of view I was concerned about the first statement which did raise a few questions. Michelle's critical analysis of the initial statement was correct as it could lead to ambiguity as to who, what , how etc. However I do appreciate the good intentions. It just needs to be unambiguous,
The statement should be clear for all to understand, If it creates more questions ( than its answers) then we would have missed the mark. Hence I agree with the dual statements which allows the Board to tweak the language within the ambit of the By-laws. regards Karel DOUGLAS On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Tatiana Tropina <tatiana.tropina@gmail.com> wrote:
I am OK with this.
Cheers Tanya On 11 Feb 2016 17:58, "Niels ten Oever" <niels@article19.org> wrote:
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Hi all,
I would like to propose the following message to the board. It's addressed to Bruce because we discussed this with him on the CCWG list. All you input on the mail or the two texts are very welcome, but I'd like to send the email soon.
Dear Bruce,
Hereby the Cross Community Working Party on ICANN's Corporate and Social Responsibility to Respect Human Rights would like to propose two suggestions for the Human Rights statement that the board is intending to make. One statement stays very close to the agreed bylaw language, and the other takes a more forward leaning position.
We hope that these texts provide a useful input to your deliberations. Please let us know if you have any questions or suggestions or if we can be of any help.
1. The ICANN board commits to respecting human rights within ICANN's core values and mission. The Board will work together with the community to identify where ICANN's policies and operations can impact human rights and will seek to ensure that no human rights are adversely impacted. Furthermore, within its mission, ICANN will seek to review its processes for remediation to ensure that mechanisms are in place to redress if need be.
2. The board of ICANN commits to take concrete steps to operationalize its core value of respecting human rights withing ICANN's mission. The steps will include working together with the community to understand the potential human rights impacts of its operations through a human rights impact assessment, and engagement of the board, management, staff and stakeholders toward a common understanding of priority human rights issues, which would culminate in a human rights report, and putting in place a human rights remediation policy to address adverse human rights impacts.
Best,
Niels
Niels ten Oever Head of Digital
Article 19 www.article19.org
PGP fingerprint 8D9F C567 BEE4 A431 56C4 678B 08B5 A0F2 636D 68E9
On 02/11/2016 12:42 PM, Tatiana Tropina wrote:
Hi Matt
Thanks
You were not on the call, but this is exactly was I was trying to point out on the call, about the possibility to go further than the bylaw language. The question was why do we need the board's statement then if it rephrases and repeats the language itself. I still think that it is not a problem if the board statement is worded closely to the bylaw language. Since the bylaw won't be operational, the board's commitment to respecting human rights and continuing the work with the community in the WS2 have more than a mere symbolic meaning. The statement will show the willingness to commit, to continue the work and to operationalise the bylaw.
My opinion: the simpler the better.
This is why I think we have to give two options: a simple option and "forward looking" option.
Best regards Tanya
On 11 February 2016 at 12:36, Matthew Shears <mshears@cdt.org <mailto:mshears@cdt.org>> wrote:
Wasn't on the call but Tatiana I think is pointing the right way. They are two different things. It seems to me that the commitment we need from the Board and perhaps the only one they might give at this stage until the FoI is undertaken is the commitment to the work in WS2. It would be a little unusual for them to go further than that given they were already skeptical of the bylaw. The second piece - ICANN's commitment to HR (not the Board's as it should be an organizational commitment) - would probably come as a result of the FoI.
On 11/02/2016 11:27, Tatiana Tropina via cc-humanrights3 wrote:
Dear Niels, dear all, after reading this short email exchange with Michele, I realised that may be we have to be clearer when we send the proposed wording of the statement to the board. I suggest inclusion of the explanation "what it means". Furthermore, after the call yesterday I am still not convinced that we can be sure that the board wants to go further than the language provided in the bylaw. I can suggest as an alternative solution that we send two proposed statements: (1) the one we discussed on the call and which is based on the bylaw (2) the statement on operationalisation and assessment that we drafted after the call. In this case, depending on what was the notion behind making this statement, the board can either chose one of them or draft a combination of two. What do you think? Cheers Tanya
On 10 February 2016 at 16:29, Niels ten Oever via cc-humanrights3 <<mailto:cc-humanrights3@icann.org>cc-humanrights3@icann.org <mailto:cc-humanrights3@icann.org>> wrote:
Hi Michele,
This statement means that the ICANN board will:
1. operationalize it's commitment to human rights 2. contribute to a Human Rights Impact Assessment with the community of stakeholders 3. contribute to the development of a Human Rights Policy with the community of stakeholders 4. work on a process for remediation.
Does this make it more clear? If not, can you make your question a bit more precise?
Best,
Niels
Niels ten Oever Head of Digital
Article 19 www.article19.org <http://www.article19.org>
PGP fingerprint 8D9F C567 BEE4 A431 56C4 678B 08B5 A0F2 636D 68E9
On 02/10/2016 04:24 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
The board of ICANN commits to take concrete steps to
operationalize its core value of respecting human rights within ICANN's mission. The steps will include working together with the community to understand the potential human rights impacts of its operations through a human rights impact assessment, engagement of the board, management, staff and stakeholders toward a common understanding of priority human rights issues, and putting in place a human rights policy to address the priority issues. _______________________________________________ cc-humanrights3 mailing list cc-humanrights3@icann.org <mailto:cc-humanrights3@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-humanrights3
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Sounds good (and solid clear) to me. Thanks for writing and polishing the text.
On Feb 11, 2016, at 6:13 PM, Tatiana Tropina <tatiana.tropina@gmail.com> wrote:
I am OK with this.
Cheers Tanya On 11 Feb 2016 17:58, "Niels ten Oever" <niels@article19.org> wrote:
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Hi all,
I would like to propose the following message to the board. It's addressed to Bruce because we discussed this with him on the CCWG list. All you input on the mail or the two texts are very welcome, but I'd like to send the email soon.
Dear Bruce,
Hereby the Cross Community Working Party on ICANN's Corporate and Social Responsibility to Respect Human Rights would like to propose two suggestions for the Human Rights statement that the board is intending to make. One statement stays very close to the agreed bylaw language, and the other takes a more forward leaning position.
We hope that these texts provide a useful input to your deliberations. Please let us know if you have any questions or suggestions or if we can be of any help.
1. The ICANN board commits to respecting human rights within ICANN's core values and mission. The Board will work together with the community to identify where ICANN's policies and operations can impact human rights and will seek to ensure that no human rights are adversely impacted. Furthermore, within its mission, ICANN will seek to review its processes for remediation to ensure that mechanisms are in place to redress if need be.
2. The board of ICANN commits to take concrete steps to operationalize its core value of respecting human rights withing ICANN's mission. The steps will include working together with the community to understand the potential human rights impacts of its operations through a human rights impact assessment, and engagement of the board, management, staff and stakeholders toward a common understanding of priority human rights issues, which would culminate in a human rights report, and putting in place a human rights remediation policy to address adverse human rights impacts.
Best,
Niels
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On 02/11/2016 12:42 PM, Tatiana Tropina wrote:
Hi Matt
Thanks
You were not on the call, but this is exactly was I was trying to point out on the call, about the possibility to go further than the bylaw language. The question was why do we need the board's statement then if it rephrases and repeats the language itself. I still think that it is not a problem if the board statement is worded closely to the bylaw language. Since the bylaw won't be operational, the board's commitment to respecting human rights and continuing the work with the community in the WS2 have more than a mere symbolic meaning. The statement will show the willingness to commit, to continue the work and to operationalise the bylaw.
My opinion: the simpler the better.
This is why I think we have to give two options: a simple option and "forward looking" option.
Best regards Tanya
On 11 February 2016 at 12:36, Matthew Shears <mshears@cdt.org <mailto:mshears@cdt.org>> wrote:
Wasn't on the call but Tatiana I think is pointing the right way. They are two different things. It seems to me that the commitment we need from the Board and perhaps the only one they might give at this stage until the FoI is undertaken is the commitment to the work in WS2. It would be a little unusual for them to go further than that given they were already skeptical of the bylaw. The second piece - ICANN's commitment to HR (not the Board's as it should be an organizational commitment) - would probably come as a result of the FoI.
On 11/02/2016 11:27, Tatiana Tropina via cc-humanrights3 wrote:
Dear Niels, dear all, after reading this short email exchange with Michele, I realised that may be we have to be clearer when we send the proposed wording of the statement to the board. I suggest inclusion of the explanation "what it means". Furthermore, after the call yesterday I am still not convinced that we can be sure that the board wants to go further than the language provided in the bylaw. I can suggest as an alternative solution that we send two proposed statements: (1) the one we discussed on the call and which is based on the bylaw (2) the statement on operationalisation and assessment that we drafted after the call. In this case, depending on what was the notion behind making this statement, the board can either chose one of them or draft a combination of two. What do you think? Cheers Tanya
On 10 February 2016 at 16:29, Niels ten Oever via cc-humanrights3 <<mailto:cc-humanrights3@icann.org>cc-humanrights3@icann.org <mailto:cc-humanrights3@icann.org>> wrote:
Hi Michele,
This statement means that the ICANN board will:
1. operationalize it's commitment to human rights 2. contribute to a Human Rights Impact Assessment with the community of stakeholders 3. contribute to the development of a Human Rights Policy with the community of stakeholders 4. work on a process for remediation.
Does this make it more clear? If not, can you make your question a bit more precise?
Best,
Niels
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On 02/10/2016 04:24 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
The board of ICANN commits to take concrete steps to
operationalize its core value of respecting human rights within ICANN's mission. The steps will include working together with the community to understand the potential human rights impacts of its operations through a human rights impact assessment, engagement of the board, management, staff and stakeholders toward a common understanding of priority human rights issues, and putting in place a human rights policy to address the priority issues. _______________________________________________ cc-humanrights3 mailing list cc-humanrights3@icann.org <mailto:cc-humanrights3@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-humanrights3
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On Mar 15, 2016, at 20:16, Stefania Milan <icanned@stefaniamilan.net> wrote:
Sounds good (and solid clear) to me. Thanks for writing and polishing the text.
On Feb 11, 2016, at 6:13 PM, Tatiana Tropina <tatiana.tropina@gmail.com> wrote:
I am OK with this.
Cheers Tanya
On 11 Feb 2016 17:58, "Niels ten Oever" <niels@article19.org> wrote:
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Hi all,
I would like to propose the following message to the board. It's addressed to Bruce because we discussed this with him on the CCWG list. All you input on the mail or the two texts are very welcome, but I'd like to send the email soon.
Dear Bruce,
Hereby the Cross Community Working Party on ICANN's Corporate and Social Responsibility to Respect Human Rights would like to propose two suggestions for the Human Rights statement that the board is intending to make. One statement stays very close to the agreed bylaw language, and the other takes a more forward leaning position.
We hope that these texts provide a useful input to your deliberations. Please let us know if you have any questions or suggestions or if we can be of any help.
1. The ICANN board commits to respecting human rights within ICANN's core values and mission. The Board will work together with the community to identify where ICANN's policies and operations can impact human rights and will seek to ensure that no human rights are adversely impacted. Furthermore, within its mission, ICANN will seek to review its processes for remediation to ensure that mechanisms are in place to redress if need be.
2. The board of ICANN commits to take concrete steps to operationalize its core value of respecting human rights withing ICANN's mission. The steps will include working together with the community to understand the potential human rights impacts of its operations through a human rights impact assessment, and engagement of the board, management, staff and stakeholders toward a common understanding of priority human rights issues, which would culminate in a human rights report, and putting in place a human rights remediation policy to address adverse human rights impacts.
Best,
Niels
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On 02/11/2016 12:42 PM, Tatiana Tropina wrote: Hi Matt
Thanks
You were not on the call, but this is exactly was I was trying to point out on the call, about the possibility to go further than the bylaw language. The question was why do we need the board's statement then if it rephrases and repeats the language itself. I still think that it is not a problem if the board statement is worded closely to the bylaw language. Since the bylaw won't be operational, the board's commitment to respecting human rights and continuing the work with the community in the WS2 have more than a mere symbolic meaning. The statement will show the willingness to commit, to continue the work and to operationalise the bylaw.
My opinion: the simpler the better.
This is why I think we have to give two options: a simple option and "forward looking" option.
Best regards Tanya
On 11 February 2016 at 12:36, Matthew Shears <mshears@cdt.org <mailto:mshears@cdt.org>> wrote:
Wasn't on the call but Tatiana I think is pointing the right way. They are two different things. It seems to me that the commitment we need from the Board and perhaps the only one they might give at this stage until the FoI is undertaken is the commitment to the work in WS2. It would be a little unusual for them to go further than that given they were already skeptical of the bylaw. The second piece - ICANN's commitment to HR (not the Board's as it should be an organizational commitment) - would probably come as a result of the FoI.
On 11/02/2016 11:27, Tatiana Tropina via cc-humanrights3 wrote: Dear Niels, dear all, after reading this short email exchange with Michele, I realised that may be we have to be clearer when we send the proposed wording of the statement to the board. I suggest inclusion of the explanation "what it means". Furthermore, after the call yesterday I am still not convinced that we can be sure that the board wants to go further than the language provided in the bylaw. I can suggest as an alternative solution that we send two proposed statements: (1) the one we discussed on the call and which is based on the bylaw (2) the statement on operationalisation and assessment that we drafted after the call. In this case, depending on what was the notion behind making this statement, the board can either chose one of them or draft a combination of two. What do you think? Cheers Tanya
On 10 February 2016 at 16:29, Niels ten Oever via cc-humanrights3 <<mailto:cc-humanrights3@icann.org>cc-humanrights3@icann.org <mailto:cc-humanrights3@icann.org>> wrote: Hi Michele,
This statement means that the ICANN board will:
1. operationalize it's commitment to human rights 2. contribute to a Human Rights Impact Assessment with the community of stakeholders 3. contribute to the development of a Human Rights Policy with the community of stakeholders 4. work on a process for remediation.
Does this make it more clear? If not, can you make your question a bit more precise?
Best,
Niels
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Article 19 www.article19.org <http://www.article19.org>
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On 02/10/2016 04:24 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote: The board of ICANN commits to take concrete steps to
> operationalize its core value of respecting human rights > within ICANN's mission. The steps will include working together > with the community to understand the potential human rights > impacts of its operations through a human rights impact > assessment, engagement of the board, management, staff and > stakeholders toward a common understanding of priority human > rights issues, and putting in place a human rights policy to > address the priority issues. _______________________________________________ cc-humanrights3 mailing list cc-humanrights3@icann.org <mailto:cc-humanrights3@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-humanrights3
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Dear Nils, dear All, Thank you for the text, I can only support it. I have also some suggestion to be considered, maybe it's too ambitious at this stage, but I think it would be worth to consider: The board of ICANN commits to take concrete steps to operationalize its core value of respecting human rights within ICANN's mission. The steps will include working together with the community to understand the potential human rights impacts of its operations through a human rights impact assessment, ***a Human Right Report***, engagement of the board, management, staff and stakeholders toward a common understanding of priority human rights issues *** which are freedom of expression and privacy, while keeping in mind other applicable rights from international human rights conventions*** and putting in place a human rights policy ***as well as a corporate social responsibility policy *** to address the priority issues. Sorry I couldn't highlight the new parts therefore I put *** before and after. Thanks again and best regards! Peter -----Original Message----- From: cc-humanrights3-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cc-humanrights3-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Niels ten Oever via cc-humanrights3 Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 4:20 PM To: Human Rights <cc-humanrights@icann.org> Cc: cc-humanrights3@icann.org Subject: [Cc-humanrights3] Draft board human rights commitment -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hello all, Motoko, Tatiana and I worked on a suggestion for a board human rights commitment as discussed during todays call. Please let me know if you have any comments: The board of ICANN commits to take concrete steps to operationalize its core value of respecting human rights within ICANN's mission. The steps will include working together with the community to understand the potential human rights impacts of its operations through a human rights impact assessment, a Human Right Report, engagement of the board, management, staff and stakeholders toward a common understanding of priority human rights issues which are freedom of expression and privacy, while keeping in mind other applicable rights from international human rights conventions and putting in place a human rights policy as well as a corporate social responsability policy to address the priority issues. Best, Niels - -- Niels ten Oever Head of Digital Article 19 www.article19.org PGP fingerprint 8D9F C567 BEE4 A431 56C4 678B 08B5 A0F2 636D 68E9 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWu1UZAAoJEAi1oPJjbWjprY4H/0w6noUgcwVqP6tyoZ9PiSbF bi1c9eTJG/fmLTAuYTwWDITiaSbmnGsHWio8IRiYLxEfLADYo5KxrfKlxWHWWbjZ Uoreh2dtVEewO/OgdNRplCvm17Ynv1zv8XbwZ6UjL+VLyUvFlRiD1YFZkE+9I2T5 Lg3BY7DTd4fgrRIMaGCp5roVnxM9U/r42VJ0y1gSMs/g3iW7z1muCQnlopFOzfai jl+n/YQIsJB0v+kwNIypXswcMzz8gI8UjcJb/0gUqenEHBWw6UbjLk357B4PXlao ACUXCSEUujbj9AxhdPgR2A9iknk38cZChaxdpLmXgh1HT4nt975f9UQguw0+iUc= =0d/k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ cc-humanrights3 mailing list cc-humanrights3@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-humanrights3
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi Peter, I like the addition of the human rights report. The separate mentioning of FoE and Privacy might be counterproductive since we argued time and again in the CCWG that human rights are indivisible, interrelated and interdependent. Finally, I wouldn't differentiate between a human rights policy and CSR. I propose we focus on human rights first, because that is something that might seem attainable, Let me know what you think. Best, Niels Niels ten Oever Head of Digital Article 19 www.article19.org PGP fingerprint 8D9F C567 BEE4 A431 56C4 678B 08B5 A0F2 636D 68E9 On 02/10/2016 04:54 PM, Kimpián Péter wrote:
Dear Nils, dear All,
Thank you for the text, I can only support it. I have also some suggestion to be considered, maybe it's too ambitious at this stage, but I think it would be worth to consider:
The board of ICANN commits to take concrete steps to operationalize its core value of respecting human rights within ICANN's mission. The steps will include working together with the community to understand the potential human rights impacts of its operations through a human rights impact assessment, ***a Human Right Report***, engagement of the board, management, staff and stakeholders toward a common understanding of priority human rights issues *** which are freedom of expression and privacy, while keeping in mind other applicable rights from international human rights conventions*** and putting in place a human rights policy ***as well as a corporate social responsibility policy *** to address the priority issues.
Sorry I couldn't highlight the new parts therefore I put *** before and after.
Thanks again and best regards!
Peter
-----Original Message----- From: cc-humanrights3-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cc-humanrights3-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Niels ten Oever via cc-humanrights3 Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 4:20 PM To: Human Rights <cc-humanrights@icann.org> Cc: cc-humanrights3@icann.org Subject: [Cc-humanrights3] Draft board human rights commitment
Hello all,
Motoko, Tatiana and I worked on a suggestion for a board human rights commitment as discussed during todays call. Please let me know if you have any comments:
The board of ICANN commits to take concrete steps to operationalize its core value of respecting human rights within ICANN's mission. The steps will include working together with the community to understand the potential human rights impacts of its operations through a human rights impact assessment, a Human Right Report, engagement of the board, management, staff and stakeholders toward a common understanding of priority human rights issues which are freedom of expression and privacy, while keeping in mind other applicable rights from international human rights conventions and putting in place a human rights policy as well as a corporate social responsability policy to address the priority issues.
Best,
Niels
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Dear Nils, dear All, In Principle I agree with all what you said, I initially wanted to put an emphasis on privacy and Foe to echo the Report which was presented in Dublin and to avoid a situation where we don't jump immediately into the most stringent issues which was pointed out again by the last report on HR. But I could live with the wording as you suggested as this is rather short statement and I fully agree with what you said about human rights nature in general Best regards, Peter Dr. Kimpián Péter kimpian.peter@naih.hu ---- Niels ten Oever írta ----
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Hi Peter,
I like the addition of the human rights report.
The separate mentioning of FoE and Privacy might be counterproductive since we argued time and again in the CCWG that human rights are indivisible, interrelated and interdependent.
Finally, I wouldn't differentiate between a human rights policy and CSR. I propose we focus on human rights first, because that is something that might seem attainable,
Let me know what you think.
Best,
Niels
Niels ten Oever Head of Digital
Article 19 www.article19.org
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On 02/10/2016 04:54 PM, Kimpián Péter wrote:
Dear Nils, dear All,
Thank you for the text, I can only support it. I have also some suggestion to be considered, maybe it's too ambitious at this stage, but I think it would be worth to consider:
The board of ICANN commits to take concrete steps to operationalize its core value of respecting human rights within ICANN's mission. The steps will include working together with the community to understand the potential human rights impacts of its operations through a human rights impact assessment, ***a Human Right Report***, engagement of the board, management, staff and stakeholders toward a common understanding of priority human rights issues *** which are freedom of expression and privacy, while keeping in mind other applicable rights from international human rights conventions*** and putting in place a human rights policy ***as well as a corporate social responsibility policy *** to address the priority issues.
Sorry I couldn't highlight the new parts therefore I put *** before and after.
Thanks again and best regards!
Peter
-----Original Message----- From: cc-humanrights3-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cc-humanrights3-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Niels ten Oever via cc-humanrights3 Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 4:20 PM To: Human Rights <cc-humanrights@icann.org> Cc: cc-humanrights3@icann.org Subject: [Cc-humanrights3] Draft board human rights commitment
Hello all,
Motoko, Tatiana and I worked on a suggestion for a board human rights commitment as discussed during todays call. Please let me know if you have any comments:
The board of ICANN commits to take concrete steps to operationalize its core value of respecting human rights within ICANN's mission. The steps will include working together with the community to understand the potential human rights impacts of its operations through a human rights impact assessment, a Human Right Report, engagement of the board, management, staff and stakeholders toward a common understanding of priority human rights issues which are freedom of expression and privacy, while keeping in mind other applicable rights from international human rights conventions and putting in place a human rights policy as well as a corporate social responsability policy to address the priority issues.
Best,
Niels
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Karel Douglas -
Kimpián Péter -
Matthew Shears -
Michele Neylon - Blacknight -
Milan, Stefania -
Niels ten Oever -
Stefania Milan -
Tatiana Tropina