Hi all I think I share Irina's concern. In my view, the NomCom is already too big. It would be easier (but still controversial) to make it bigger by adding more ccNSO reps. But that might make the group entirely dysfunctional. Shouldn't we take care to make sure the system can work well, as well as redressing the share of power to more realistically reflect the importance of the ccNSO? Cheers Jordan -----Original Message----- From: Ccnso-council <ccnso-council-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Demi Getschko via Ccnso-council Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2023 11:14 PM To: ccnso-council@icann.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] - Re: [ccnso-council] on the NomCom rebalancing Pablo + 1 here! This is an old issue, never resolved. We are severely underrepresented in NomCom... best! demi On 19/06/2023 21:40, Pablo Rodriguez via Ccnso-council wrote:
Dear All: I agree with Stephen's remark, no SO or AC will give up seats at the table to increase ccNSO's participation. Consequently, it seems to me the logical path is to increase our number to 5 members (1 per region). I would agree to less than five if those that currently have five members cut down their membership to an equal number as the ccNSO. Regards,
On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 12:09 PM Stephen Deerhake @ ASNIC via Ccnso-council <ccnso-council@icann.org> wrote:
Hi,
Further Jordan and Nick’s remarks, I personally do not see how we can achieve a rebalancing effort in any of our lifetimes without an approach that does not involve expansion of the NomCom membership.
I just do not see the other SO/AC’s giving up some seats at the table to the ccNSO. So I think, to use an American expression regarding our Supreme court, we need to “ack the NomCom.”
Best Regards,
Stephen
*From: *Ccnso-council <ccnso-council-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Alejandra Reynoso Barral via Ccnso-council <ccnso-council@icann.org> *Reply-To: *Alejandra Reynoso Barral <alejandra.reynoso@gmail.com> *Date: *Monday, June 19, 2023 at 08:29 *To: *Nick Wenban-Smith <Nick.Wenban-Smith@nominet.uk> *Cc: *"ccnso-Council@icann.org" <ccnso-council@icann.org> *Subject: *Re: [ccnso-council] on the NomCom rebalancing
Dear All
We had a great ICANN meeting and I hope everyone arrived safely back home.
Nick, so far we don't have any input on what other SOs/ACs are going to respond. During one of the Chairs monthly calls it was brought to the table and it seemed that we didn't need coordination. If we feel it would be best to share views before the formal response I can always reach out to them and seek input.
Here is the ICANN Correspondence:
https://www/. icann.org%2Fresources%2Fpages%2Fcorrespondence&data=05%7C01%7Cjordan.c arter%40auda.org.au%7C2acd2577d3e6469967e008db71904c54%7C81810bc45d684 5f6ba4e3d6c9fb37e43%7C0%7C0%7C638228637197215157%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb 3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D% 7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=KxmEJw3EtKeBBjUK1hl06JieOFeLnEJXAYuMb4CiIvc%3D&r eserved=0
There are very few responses already regarding the NomCom rebalancing topic.
On the other hand, some of you approached me to be allowed to contribute to the response and here I am sharing the Google Doc:
https://docs/ .google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1OeX5vRNKkgOME5IWbTeAPxffdMhednPE%2Fedit& data=05%7C01%7Cjordan.carter%40auda.org.au%7C2acd2577d3e6469967e008db7 1904c54%7C81810bc45d6845f6ba4e3d6c9fb37e43%7C0%7C0%7C63822863719721515 7%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6 Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=vtYA7k0iEgcM4D3xdfL0KSFvM k8cEINFpbNSdoHzI8A%3D&reserved=0
Please add your comments and suggestions by the 22 June. Afterwards the Ad Hoc team will clean it up and circulate a final version for approval on the 26 June.
Best regards,
Alejandra
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On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 9:21 PM Nick Wenban-Smith via Ccnso-council <ccnso-council@icann.org> wrote:
It’s hard to see another way to do it.
Does anyone have any insights as to how other participants (such as the GNSO and ALAC) are looking at this? Might be a good idea to coordinate responses, just a thought.
*From:* Ccnso-council <ccnso-council-bounces@icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Jordan Carter via Ccnso-council *Sent:* Thursday, June 15, 2023 7:37 PM *To:* ccnso-Council@icann.org *Subject:* [ccnso-council] on the NomCom rebalancing
Hi all
This email is about the response to Tripti’s letter on the rebalancing of the NomCom.
The draft was on our list recently and is downloadable here: https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/228788163/Item%2012%20-%20d...
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In specific reply to Question 4 almost at the end of the doc, the suggestion is that there be a Cross Community Working Group to do the work of developing a change to the NomCom’s balance, which will lead to bylaws changes.
I can’t think of a different way to do it.
* Clearly the Board coming up with a proposal and seeking public comment isn’t the right way. * The NomCom can’t propose changes to itself. * The SO/AC Chairs leadership forum does not have the mandate to propose specifics in such a potentially contentious area. * Getting some external consultant to do a review would just be an interesting input – we clearly can’t just say “ok” to something someone outside the community wrote for us.
Perhaps we could expand the point to say something like the following – shared as a rough draft to see what people think…
*4. How do you suggest that the NomCom’s composition be rebalanced?*
It is our view that, the rebalancing should be achieved through a cross-community group process, chartered by the community and Board which ultimately would result in suggestions for Bylaw changes.
We think work on this question, in whatever form is finally agreed, should start expeditiously since it will take some time to start and some time to do the work. We are prepared to participate in a chartering group in the near future. The goal should be that there is a process of some type proposed for discussion at ICANN78 in October.
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