[Request for Advice] Participation in ALAC session at ICANN 71
Dear all, Yesterday I met with ALAC representatives to express my concern about a session they intended to have on ccTLDs. The session was titled "Policy Session 3: Public Interest: Is the commercialization of ccTLDs a threat?" The session was an attempt to explore if commercialization of ccTLD registries affects Internet end users. Trying to understand the possible impacts of commercialization on consumer protection, competition, the stability of the DNS and, in a broader sense, on the public interest. After an introduction to the history of ccTLD policy, the intention was to answer two questions: 1) What is the impact of ccTLD registries commercialization on consumer protection, competition, and the stability of the DNS? 2) Does the commercialization of ccTLD registries affect Internet end users? As a result of the discussion, the topic and the goal of the session changed to: "ccTLD Governance Models - Testimonies from At-Large end users". In principle it builds on and uses the ccTLD models session from ICANN68 (Not-for profit, for profit, government, and academia run ccTLDs) and previous work we have done with ALAC on the different ccTLD Governance models. As this is an ALAC session, they will look at some people within their community who each have experience with one of the models from an end-user perspective. Potentially there will be a follow-up during ICANN72, but that depends on a lot of variables. Before committing to anything, I told them I would circle back to you to find out whether you agree that we participate in the re-focused session. If so, I want to ask Katrina to provide the overview of the models, as she did all the preparation for the previous sessions. Please advise, preferably by tomorrow. Best regards, Alejandra -- [image: Photograph] *Alejandra Reynoso*Investigación & Desarrollo | Dominios .gt *P:* +502 23688565 *E:* alejandra.reynoso@cctld.gt 18 Ave. 11-95 Zona 15, V.H. III. (A-109) Guatemala, Guatemala www.gt
Hello Alejandra, colleagues In the substance of this session I don’t see any problems. It may be that hearing these perspectives from the removed perspective of ALAC can be interesting for us. I do think the strong message of ‘nothing about us without us’ and the need to discuss sessions such as this with the ccnso well in advance has been truly heard now by ALAC staff and officers? Cheers Jordan On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 at 05:17, Alejandra Reynoso via Ccnso-council < ccnso-council@icann.org> wrote:
Dear all,
Yesterday I met with ALAC representatives to express my concern about a session they intended to have on ccTLDs. The session was titled "Policy Session 3: Public Interest: Is the commercialization of ccTLDs a threat?"
The session was an attempt to explore if commercialization of ccTLD registries affects Internet end users. Trying to understand the possible impacts of commercialization on consumer protection, competition, the stability of the DNS and, in a broader sense, on the public interest. After an introduction to the history of ccTLD policy, the intention was to answer two questions: 1) What is the impact of ccTLD registries commercialization on consumer protection, competition, and the stability of the DNS? 2) Does the commercialization of ccTLD registries affect Internet end users?
As a result of the discussion, the topic and the goal of the session changed to: "ccTLD Governance Models - Testimonies from At-Large end users". In principle it builds on and uses the ccTLD models session from ICANN68 (Not-for profit, for profit, government, and academia run ccTLDs) and previous work we have done with ALAC on the different ccTLD Governance models. As this is an ALAC session, they will look at some people within their community who each have experience with one of the models from an end-user perspective. Potentially there will be a follow-up during ICANN72, but that depends on a lot of variables.
Before committing to anything, I told them I would circle back to you to find out whether you agree that we participate in the re-focused session. If so, I want to ask Katrina to provide the overview of the models, as she did all the preparation for the previous sessions.
Please advise, preferably by tomorrow.
Best regards, Alejandra
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*Alejandra Reynoso*Investigación & Desarrollo | Dominios .gt *P:* +502 23688565 *E:* alejandra.reynoso@cctld.gt 18 Ave. 11-95 Zona 15, V.H. III. (A-109) Guatemala, Guatemala www.gt
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I think like Jordan and I believe it is very beneficial to participate and listen to the opinions and views of ALAC. Other points of view present new ideas and possibilities we may not be familiar with. Regards, Jenifer. ________________________________ De: Ccnso-council <ccnso-council-bounces@icann.org> en nombre de Jordan Carter via Ccnso-council <ccnso-council@icann.org> Enviado: jueves, 3 de junio de 2021 2:39 p. m. Para: Alejandra Reynoso <alejandra.reynoso@cctld.gt> Cc: ccNSO Council <ccnso-council@icann.org> Asunto: Re: [ccnso-council] [Request for Advice] Participation in ALAC session at ICANN 71 Hello Alejandra, colleagues In the substance of this session I don’t see any problems. It may be that hearing these perspectives from the removed perspective of ALAC can be interesting for us. I do think the strong message of ‘nothing about us without us’ and the need to discuss sessions such as this with the ccnso well in advance has been truly heard now by ALAC staff and officers? Cheers Jordan On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 at 05:17, Alejandra Reynoso via Ccnso-council <ccnso-council@icann.org<mailto:ccnso-council@icann.org>> wrote: Dear all, Yesterday I met with ALAC representatives to express my concern about a session they intended to have on ccTLDs. The session was titled "Policy Session 3: Public Interest: Is the commercialization of ccTLDs a threat?" The session was an attempt to explore if commercialization of ccTLD registries affects Internet end users. Trying to understand the possible impacts of commercialization on consumer protection, competition, the stability of the DNS and, in a broader sense, on the public interest. After an introduction to the history of ccTLD policy, the intention was to answer two questions: 1) What is the impact of ccTLD registries commercialization on consumer protection, competition, and the stability of the DNS? 2) Does the commercialization of ccTLD registries affect Internet end users? As a result of the discussion, the topic and the goal of the session changed to: "ccTLD Governance Models - Testimonies from At-Large end users". In principle it builds on and uses the ccTLD models session from ICANN68 (Not-for profit, for profit, government, and academia run ccTLDs) and previous work we have done with ALAC on the different ccTLD Governance models. As this is an ALAC session, they will look at some people within their community who each have experience with one of the models from an end-user perspective. Potentially there will be a follow-up during ICANN72, but that depends on a lot of variables. Before committing to anything, I told them I would circle back to you to find out whether you agree that we participate in the re-focused session. If so, I want to ask Katrina to provide the overview of the models, as she did all the preparation for the previous sessions. Please advise, preferably by tomorrow. Best regards, Alejandra -- [Photograph] Alejandra Reynoso Investigación & Desarrollo | Dominios .gt P: +502 23688565 E: alejandra.reynoso@cctld.gt<mailto:alejandra.reynoso@cctld.gt> 18 Ave. 11-95 Zona 15, V.H. III. (A-109) Guatemala, Guatemala www.gt<http://www.gt/> _______________________________________________ Ccnso-council mailing list Ccnso-council@icann.org<mailto:Ccnso-council@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccnso-council _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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Hi Jordan Regarding the message, yes indeed it was delivered. For clarity: - Apparently there was an internal miscommunication on who was supposed to contact us and in the end nobody did (thinking the other person was doing it already). - Regarding the time for coordination, at first it was proposed to have a full ccTLDs models presentation and we explained that we had already done something similar in the past and that it took no less than two months for proper preparation. Therefore, we couldn't commit to doing something similar with such short notice. Afterwards it was suggested to have a summary of that previous session, which is doable. Also, it was added that it wasn't advisable to prepare a session in a rush. Best, Alejandra -- [image: Photograph] *Alejandra Reynoso*Investigación & Desarrollo | Dominios .gt *P:* +502 23688565 *E:* alejandra.reynoso@cctld.gt 18 Ave. 11-95 Zona 15, V.H. III. (A-109) Guatemala, Guatemala www.gt On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 1:39 PM Jordan Carter <jordan@internetnz.net.nz> wrote:
Hello Alejandra, colleagues
In the substance of this session I don’t see any problems. It may be that hearing these perspectives from the removed perspective of ALAC can be interesting for us.
I do think the strong message of ‘nothing about us without us’ and the need to discuss sessions such as this with the ccnso well in advance has been truly heard now by ALAC staff and officers?
Cheers Jordan
On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 at 05:17, Alejandra Reynoso via Ccnso-council < ccnso-council@icann.org> wrote:
Dear all,
Yesterday I met with ALAC representatives to express my concern about a session they intended to have on ccTLDs. The session was titled "Policy Session 3: Public Interest: Is the commercialization of ccTLDs a threat?"
The session was an attempt to explore if commercialization of ccTLD registries affects Internet end users. Trying to understand the possible impacts of commercialization on consumer protection, competition, the stability of the DNS and, in a broader sense, on the public interest. After an introduction to the history of ccTLD policy, the intention was to answer two questions: 1) What is the impact of ccTLD registries commercialization on consumer protection, competition, and the stability of the DNS? 2) Does the commercialization of ccTLD registries affect Internet end users?
As a result of the discussion, the topic and the goal of the session changed to: "ccTLD Governance Models - Testimonies from At-Large end users". In principle it builds on and uses the ccTLD models session from ICANN68 (Not-for profit, for profit, government, and academia run ccTLDs) and previous work we have done with ALAC on the different ccTLD Governance models. As this is an ALAC session, they will look at some people within their community who each have experience with one of the models from an end-user perspective. Potentially there will be a follow-up during ICANN72, but that depends on a lot of variables.
Before committing to anything, I told them I would circle back to you to find out whether you agree that we participate in the re-focused session. If so, I want to ask Katrina to provide the overview of the models, as she did all the preparation for the previous sessions.
Please advise, preferably by tomorrow.
Best regards, Alejandra
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[image: Photograph]
*Alejandra Reynoso*Investigación & Desarrollo | Dominios .gt *P:* +502 23688565 *E:* alejandra.reynoso@cctld.gt 18 Ave. 11-95 Zona 15, V.H. III. (A-109) Guatemala, Guatemala www.gt
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Sent on the run, apologies for brevity
Hello Alejandra, Looks like we have been able to set the records straight and also made the point clear that "you don't shave someone behind them" (African Proverb). It will be beneficial to participate in the program to be able to set the record straight and also be able to provide insight into what ccTLDs are doing in the various aspects and also allay the fears of ALAC. I think we also, should work closely with them (if they allow) to shape such discussions in the future. Beneficial to participate in the discuss. Thanks and have a good day. Biyi Oladipo On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 6:17 PM Alejandra Reynoso via Ccnso-council < ccnso-council@icann.org> wrote:
Dear all,
Yesterday I met with ALAC representatives to express my concern about a session they intended to have on ccTLDs. The session was titled "Policy Session 3: Public Interest: Is the commercialization of ccTLDs a threat?"
The session was an attempt to explore if commercialization of ccTLD registries affects Internet end users. Trying to understand the possible impacts of commercialization on consumer protection, competition, the stability of the DNS and, in a broader sense, on the public interest. After an introduction to the history of ccTLD policy, the intention was to answer two questions: 1) What is the impact of ccTLD registries commercialization on consumer protection, competition, and the stability of the DNS? 2) Does the commercialization of ccTLD registries affect Internet end users?
As a result of the discussion, the topic and the goal of the session changed to: "ccTLD Governance Models - Testimonies from At-Large end users". In principle it builds on and uses the ccTLD models session from ICANN68 (Not-for profit, for profit, government, and academia run ccTLDs) and previous work we have done with ALAC on the different ccTLD Governance models. As this is an ALAC session, they will look at some people within their community who each have experience with one of the models from an end-user perspective. Potentially there will be a follow-up during ICANN72, but that depends on a lot of variables.
Before committing to anything, I told them I would circle back to you to find out whether you agree that we participate in the re-focused session. If so, I want to ask Katrina to provide the overview of the models, as she did all the preparation for the previous sessions.
Please advise, preferably by tomorrow.
Best regards, Alejandra
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[image: Photograph]
*Alejandra Reynoso*Investigación & Desarrollo | Dominios .gt *P:* +502 23688565 *E:* alejandra.reynoso@cctld.gt 18 Ave. 11-95 Zona 15, V.H. III. (A-109) Guatemala, Guatemala www.gt
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Alejandra Reynoso -
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Jenifer Lopez -
Jordan Carter -
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