October 2022 - CCPDP4-CS-SG

Re: [CCPDP4-CS-SG] ccPDP4 Confusing Similarities SG Te leconference (10) | 25 October at 13:00 UTC.
by Bart Boswinkel Oct. 25, 2022

Oct. 25, 2022

Dear all, Due to limited attendance we have deferred today’s call to 8 November 2022. The call on 8 November will be 90 minutes!! Next week we will circulate an updated document, which will include the references Mirjana just circulated to the list, Kin d regards, Bart From: CCPDP4-CS-SG <ccpdp4-cs-sg-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Kimberly Carlson <kimberly.carlson(a)icann.org> Date: Tuesday, 25 October 2022 at 14:08 To: aclu <aclu(a)twnic.tw> Cc: "ccpdp4-cs-sg(a)icann.org" <ccpdp4-cs-sg(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [CCPDP4-CS-SG] [Ext] Re: REMINDER: ccPDP4 Confusing Similarities SG Te leconference (10) | 25 October at 13:00 UTC. Noted, thank you. From: aclu <aclu(a)twnic.tw> Reply-To: aclu <aclu(a)twnic.tw> Date: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 5:57 AM To: Kimberly Carlson <kimberly.carlson(a)icann.org> Cc: "ccpdp4-cs-sg(a)icann.org" <ccpdp4-cs-sg(a)icann.org> Subject: [Ext] Re: [CCPDP4-CS-SG] REMINDER: ccPDP4 Confusing Similarities SG Te leconference (10) | 25 October at 13:00 UTC. Dear Kimberly, Apologies, I cannot attend today's sub-group meeting. ai-chin -----Original message----- From:Kimberly Carlson<kimberly.carlson(a)icann.org> To:ccpdp4-cs-sg@icann.org<ccpdp4-cs-sg(a)icann.org> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 02:45:32 Subject: [CCPDP4-CS-SG] REMINDER: ccPDP4 Confusing Similarities SG Teleconference (10) | 25 October at 13:00 UTC. Dear all, As a reminder, the next ccPDP4 Confusing Similarities SG Teleconference (10) is scheduled for 25 October at 13:00 UTC. Agenda: 1. Welcome 2. Admin items, if any 1. Action Items 2. Meeting GNSO EPDP 3. Progress Full group 1. Review of CS Document (attached) 1. Intro section 2. Overview process 3. Review of Process sections (first reading) 1. Next meetings 1. Full Group | 1 November @13:00 UTC 2. CS Subgroup | 8 November @13:00 UTC 3. Full Group | 15 November @13:00 UTC 1. AOB 2. Adjourn Please find the call details below: Join Zoom Meeting https://icann.zoom.us/j/94924178990?pwd=VzVNTzZtVklnWTJyYWFaV1ZUQ2FvZz09 [icann.zoom.us]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/94924178990?pwd=VzVNTzZt…> Meeting ID: 949 2417 8990 Passcode: PDP4-CS#10 Wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/RAbVD _______________________________________________ CCPDP4-CS-SG mailing list CCPDP4-CS-SG(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccpdp4-cs-sg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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Re: [CCPDP4-CS-SG] REMINDER: ccPDP4 Confusing Similarities SG Teleconference (10) | 25 October at 13:00 UTC.
by Joke Braeken Oct. 25, 2022

Oct. 25, 2022

All, Notes today will be taken here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1genMbMBWsPe-moqzRlKnU_PlpeQHI2uOmQSyjUD… Best regards, Joke Braeken joke.braeken(a)icann.org From: CCPDP4-CS-SG <ccpdp4-cs-sg-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Kimberly Carlson <kimberly.carlson(a)icann.org> Date: Monday, 24 October 2022 at 20:47 To: "ccpdp4-cs-sg(a)icann.org" <ccpdp4-cs-sg(a)icann.org> Subject: [CCPDP4-CS-SG] REMINDER: ccPDP4 Confusing Similarities SG Teleconference (10) | 25 October at 13:00 UTC. Dear all, As a reminder, the next ccPDP4 Confusing Similarities SG Teleconference (10) is scheduled for 25 October at 13:00 UTC. Agenda: 1. Welcome 2. Admin items, if any 1. Action Items 2. Meeting GNSO EPDP 3. Progress Full group 1. Review of CS Document (attached) 1. Intro section 2. Overview process 3. Review of Process sections (first reading) 1. Next meetings 1. Full Group | 1 November @13:00 UTC 2. CS Subgroup | 8 November @13:00 UTC 3. Full Group | 15 November @13:00 UTC 1. AOB 2. Adjourn Please find the call details below: Join Zoom Meeting https://icann.zoom.us/j/94924178990?pwd=VzVNTzZtVklnWTJyYWFaV1ZUQ2FvZz09 [icann.zoom.us]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/94924178990?pwd=VzVNTzZt…> Meeting ID: 949 2417 8990 Passcode: PDP4-CS#10 Wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/RAbVD

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ccPDP4 Confusing Similarities SG Teleconference (10) | 25 October at 13:00 UTC
by Kimberly Carlson Oct. 25, 2022

Oct. 25, 2022

***STARTING IN ONE HOUR*** Dear all, The next ccPDP4 Confusing Similarities SG Teleconference (10) is scheduled for 25 October at 13:00 UTC. The agenda will be circulated prior to the call. Please find the call details below: Join Zoom Meeting https://icann.zoom.us/j/94924178990?pwd=VzVNTzZtVklnWTJyYWFaV1ZUQ2FvZz09 Meeting ID: 949 2417 8990 Passcode: PDP4-CS#10 Wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/RAbVD

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REMINDER: ccPDP4 Confusing Similarities SG Teleconference (10) | 25 October at 13:00 UTC.
by Kimberly Carlson Oct. 25, 2022

Oct. 25, 2022

Dear all, As a reminder, the next ccPDP4 Confusing Similarities SG Teleconference (10) is scheduled for 25 October at 13:00 UTC. Agenda: 1. Welcome 2. Admin items, if any 1. Action Items 2. Meeting GNSO EPDP 3. Progress Full group 1. Review of CS Document (attached) 1. Intro section 2. Overview process 3. Review of Process sections (first reading) 1. Next meetings 1. Full Group | 1 November @13:00 UTC 2. CS Subgroup | 8 November @13:00 UTC 3. Full Group | 15 November @13:00 UTC 1. AOB 2. Adjourn Please find the call details below: Join Zoom Meeting https://icann.zoom.us/j/94924178990?pwd=VzVNTzZtVklnWTJyYWFaV1ZUQ2FvZz09 Meeting ID: 949 2417 8990 Passcode: PDP4-CS#10 Wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/RAbVD

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REMINDER: ccPDP4 Confusing Similarities SG Teleconference (10) | 25 October at 13:00 UTC
by Kimberly Carlson Oct. 21, 2022

Oct. 21, 2022

Dear all, As a reminder, the next ccPDP4 Confusing Similarities SG Teleconference (10) is scheduled for 25 October at 13:00 UTC. Agenda and background material will be circulated on Monday. Please find the call details below: Join Zoom Meeting https://icann.zoom.us/j/94924178990?pwd=VzVNTzZtVklnWTJyYWFaV1ZUQ2FvZz09 Meeting ID: 949 2417 8990 Passcode: PDP4-CS#10 Wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/RAbVD

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NOTES | ccPDP4 Confusing Similarities SG | 11 Oct. 2022 (13 UTC)
by Joke Braeken Oct. 11, 2022

Oct. 11, 2022

NOTES | ccPDP4 Confusing Similarities SG | 11 Oct. 2022 (13 UTC) 1. Welcome and roll call Welcome by Kenny Limited attendance today. Apologies received from Jaap. 2. Admin matters a. Action items Notes missing b. Progress full working group 3. Update IDN EPDP Sarmad: previous meeting, the group reviewed its schedule and list of activities. They are now revisiting the timeline. 2 reports: report one on top level, second report will focus on the remaining questions, focusing on the 2nd level Kenny: make sure we have harmonisation in terms of Variant Management, between GNSO and ccNSO efforts. Bart: action item for next week? If EPDP decides to make this split, the 2 groups should compare notes again Ariel: yes, meet at start of the new year. 9 meetings left until Christmas break Bart: the ccPDP4 full group is almost done. Good idea for this subgroup to meet with GNSO. no need for full hour. Compare notes halfway through, to ensure there is no real divergence Ariel: makes sense. 1. Discussion CS process a. Introduction of document Bart: https://community.icann.org/x/NAbVD We closed section 1, 2 and 3. (Purpose, standard base for comparison) Next step: methodology and process itself. Some will be left for implementation, some copy-paste from Fast Track Process. Any comments or concerns regarding this? None Mirjana: structure is ok. Proposed process and method confusing similarity evaluation - goal - section 1 There are 2 ccTLDs as examples between brackets. Those 2 ccTLDs are variants of each others. The other group is dealing with this. Will try to find a better example. Bart: variants across scripts make it very difficult Sarmad: good point raised by Mirjana. When some parts of the text were drafted, there was a large pool of characters considered similar. Since then, the work of RZ-LGR identified 2 sets of characters. Bart: This text is around for quite some time. That is frustrating. This is cut and paste from the delineation. Please raise your points when we discuss this. Bart: we should note potential overlap between VM and CS, and the impact Pitinan: Perhaps we can consider this example ‘бе’ vs ‘be’. ‘Бе’ does not have variant labels. Bart: would it not result in the same issue? Pitinan: text is ok. But the example is not. Simply update the example Jiankang: C1 and C2 If the requestor has a confusing similarity problem, and they seek clarification, will it be the same panel that will do the review? Concern that perhaps the panel is biased. Bart: different panel Suggestion to add this to the text. This is currently not clear. See annex B. Sarmad: third step is limited in applicability. Similar in lower case, but not upper case. Bart: thanks, this is documented. Needs to be be reviewed in detail, to check whether additional conditions need to be added b. Introducing the process description, including assumptions (EPSRP and risk mitigation are specific, policy related review mechanism) c. First reading Section Stage 2: Validation of IDN ccTLD string 4. AOB none 5. Next meetings: Full Group: 18 October 2022 | 13 UTC CS subgroup: 25 October 2022 | 13 UTC 6. Closure Bye all Joke Braeken joke.braeken(a)icann.org From: CCPDP4-CS-SG <ccpdp4-cs-sg-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Joke Braeken <joke.braeken(a)icann.org> Date: Tuesday, 11 October 2022 at 14:56 To: Kimberly Carlson <kimberly.carlson(a)icann.org>, "ccpdp4-cs-sg(a)icann.org" <ccpdp4-cs-sg(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [CCPDP4-CS-SG] REMINDER: ccPDP4 Confusing Similarities SG Teleconference (9) | 11 October at 13:00 UTC Hello All, Notes today will be taken here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g3MSfPQWc1fNrL3khOA_S-t_15lj_xmPBxSwBWM… [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1g3MSfPQWc1fN…> Best regards, Joke Braeken joke.braeken(a)icann.org From: CCPDP4-CS-SG <ccpdp4-cs-sg-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Kimberly Carlson <kimberly.carlson(a)icann.org> Date: Monday, 10 October 2022 at 18:15 To: "ccpdp4-cs-sg(a)icann.org" <ccpdp4-cs-sg(a)icann.org> Subject: [CCPDP4-CS-SG] REMINDER: ccPDP4 Confusing Similarities SG Teleconference (9) | 11 October at 13:00 UTC Dear all, As a reminder, the ccPDP4 Confusing Similarities SG Teleconference (9) is scheduled for 11 October at 13:00 UTC. Agenda: 1. Welcome and roll call 2. Admin matters 1. Action items 2. Progress full working group 3. Update IDN EPDP 1. Discussion CS process 1. Introduction of document 2. Introducing the process description, including assumptions (EPSRP and risk mitigation are specific, policy related review mechanism) 3. First reading Section Stage 2: Validation of IDN ccTLD string 1. AOB 2. Next meetings: * Full Group: 18 October 2022 * CS subgroup: 25 October 2022 3. Closure Please find the call details below: Join Zoom Meeting https://icann.zoom.us/j/98308357129?pwd=a290RnVxOWJaNUo5THp2dFp1eVY5QT0 [icann.zoom.us]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/98308357129?pwd=a290RnVx…> Meeting ID: 983 0835 7129 Passcode: PDP4-CS#09 Wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/NAbVD

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Re: [CCPDP4-CS-SG] REMINDER: ccPDP4 Confusing Similarities SG Teleconference (9) | 11 October at 13:00 UTC
by Joke Braeken Oct. 11, 2022

Oct. 11, 2022

Hello All, Notes today will be taken here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g3MSfPQWc1fNrL3khOA_S-t_15lj_xmPBxSwBWM… Best regards, Joke Braeken joke.braeken(a)icann.org From: CCPDP4-CS-SG <ccpdp4-cs-sg-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Kimberly Carlson <kimberly.carlson(a)icann.org> Date: Monday, 10 October 2022 at 18:15 To: "ccpdp4-cs-sg(a)icann.org" <ccpdp4-cs-sg(a)icann.org> Subject: [CCPDP4-CS-SG] REMINDER: ccPDP4 Confusing Similarities SG Teleconference (9) | 11 October at 13:00 UTC Dear all, As a reminder, the ccPDP4 Confusing Similarities SG Teleconference (9) is scheduled for 11 October at 13:00 UTC. Agenda: 1. Welcome and roll call 2. Admin matters 1. Action items 2. Progress full working group 3. Update IDN EPDP 1. Discussion CS process 1. Introduction of document 2. Introducing the process description, including assumptions (EPSRP and risk mitigation are specific, policy related review mechanism) 3. First reading Section Stage 2: Validation of IDN ccTLD string 1. AOB 2. Next meetings: * Full Group: 18 October 2022 * CS subgroup: 25 October 2022 3. Closure Please find the call details below: Join Zoom Meeting https://icann.zoom.us/j/98308357129?pwd=a290RnVxOWJaNUo5THp2dFp1eVY5QT0 [icann.zoom.us]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/98308357129?pwd=a290RnVx…> Meeting ID: 983 0835 7129 Passcode: PDP4-CS#09 Wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/NAbVD

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ccPDP4 Confusing Similarities SG Teleconference (9) | 11 October at 13:00 UTC
by Kimberly Carlson Oct. 11, 2022

Oct. 11, 2022

**STARTING IN ONE HOUR*** Dear all, The next ccPDP4 Confusing Similarities SG Teleconference (9) is scheduled for 11 October at 13:00 UTC. The agenda will be circulated prior to the call. Please find the call details below: Join Zoom Meeting https://icann.zoom.us/j/98308357129?pwd=a290RnVxOWJaNUo5THp2dFp1eVY5QT0 Meeting ID: 983 0835 7129 Passcode: PDP4-CS#09 Wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/NAbVD

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REMINDER: ccPDP4 Confusing Similarities SG Teleconference (9) | 11 October at 13:00 UTC
by Kimberly Carlson Oct. 10, 2022

Oct. 10, 2022

Dear all, As a reminder, the ccPDP4 Confusing Similarities SG Teleconference (9) is scheduled for 11 October at 13:00 UTC. Agenda: 1. Welcome and roll call 2. Admin matters 1. Action items 2. Progress full working group 3. Update IDN EPDP 1. Discussion CS process 1. Introduction of document 2. Introducing the process description, including assumptions (EPSRP and risk mitigation are specific, policy related review mechanism) 3. First reading Section Stage 2: Validation of IDN ccTLD string 1. AOB 2. Next meetings: * Full Group: 18 October 2022 * CS subgroup: 25 October 2022 3. Closure Please find the call details below: Join Zoom Meeting https://icann.zoom.us/j/98308357129?pwd=a290RnVxOWJaNUo5THp2dFp1eVY5QT0 Meeting ID: 983 0835 7129 Passcode: PDP4-CS#09 Wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/NAbVD

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ccPDP4 Confusing Similarities SG Teleconference (11) | 8 November at 13:00 UTC
by Kimberly Carlson Oct. 2, 2022

Oct. 2, 2022

Dear all, The next ccPDP4 Confusing Similarities SG Teleconference (11) is scheduled for 8 November at 13:00 UTC. The agenda will be circulated prior to the call. Please find the call details below: Join Zoom Meeting https://icann.zoom.us/j/93173467003?pwd=WnNvbmVSemhQUnVLVXpxY1BHT1Z0QT09 Meeting ID: 931 7346 7003 Passcode: PDP4-CS#11 Wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/VAbVD

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