On Sep 6, 2017, at 10:27 PM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> wrote:
So it seem to me that open Internet in summary is simply "a structure and system that is in itself borderless and open to all."
I love this, Seun. I believe that definition is somehow included in what we already have and was only expanded when trying to explain what "borderless" and "open to all" means.
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On Sep 6, 2017 8:07 PM, "Marika Konings" <marika.konings@icann.org> wrote: Marilyn, all,
As part of the deliberations on the objective for auction proceeds allocation, the CCWG is currently considering the following draft which includes a reference to Open Internet. As such, there is a need for a definition and/or description so that there is a common understanding of what is meant with that term. Current draft:
Specific objectives of new gTLD Auction Proceeds fund allocation are:
· Benefit the development, distribution and evolution of the Internet's unique identifier systems;
· Benefit structures or projects that directly support the Internet's unique identifier systems;
· Benefit capacity building and underserved populations, and;
· Benefit the Open Internet. [Note, the definition of Open Internet is subject to a separate conversation ]
New gTLD Auction Proceeds are expected to be allocated in a manner consistent with ICANN’s mission.
I hope this is helpful.
Best regards,
Marika
From: <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Marilyn Cade <marilynscade@hotmail.com> Date: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 12:46 To: Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma@gmail.com>, "erika@erikamann.com" <erika@erikamann.com> Cc: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated version open internet definition / description
Just asking a question: why is this group undertaking a definition of the Open Internet?
:-) This seems like a strange endeavor. Let's just stick with the mission statement of ICANN.
And assume that as it is in the parable of the blind men and the elephant, that the open Internet is somewhat in the eye of the beholder.
BUT, it is not up to ICANN to redefine it, or define it.
As to what could be funded by the Auction Funds:
I am probably more liberal on what falls under the ICANN mission -- e.g. advancing SSR, capacity building for enhancing the ability of participants form developing country participants to participate in an informed manner in ICANN and related activities; enhancing travel and participation form developing countries, etc. Bringing informed participants into the related IG initiatives that are threats to the continued stability of ICANN or support the stability of ICANN, such as the IGF and the national IGFs.
I stop at building at funding infrastructure in terms of funding an under sea cables etc. but not at training on how to create an IXP. Training seems to me to be a good and within scope, as it advances how countries may increase connectivity to the Internet and then also use the DNS. Paying for physical infrastructure seems totally out of scope. Providing capacity building/training, etc. seems to me to be in scope, as it advances SSR, which is clearly within mission.
From: ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 9:02 AM To: Erika Mann Cc: ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated version open internet definition / description
Erica and all,
To help coordinate, may I suggest your draft to be put into a Google doc that will allow edits/suggestions to be easily tracked?
We have great ideas and sometime, we can get lost in the number of improvements suggested by everyone here.
I look forward to reading your compiled version.
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On Sep 6, 2017, at 11:20 AM, Erika Mann <erika@erikamann.com> wrote:
All - I hope to be able to send you tomorrow a new 'open Internet' preamble draft text, based on suggestions you made. I had hoped to be able to do this today but I have to finalize some other work first.
Until tomorrow!
Erika
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 3:00 AM, Sylvia Cadena <sylvia@apnic.net> wrote:
Dear all,
I have checked the document that Marika shared with comments from many of us and incorporated the last ones made on this thread. I hope the attached document serves to structure a preamble (as Erika suggested) in a way that reflects the spirit of the CCWG discussions, and our intent for the auction proceeds funds to make a difference.
Warm regards,
Sylvia
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From: <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com> Organization: Hellerstein & Associates Reply-To: Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com> Date: Tuesday, 5 September 2017 at 2:17 pm To: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated version open internet definition / description
HI Erika and others,
I like Daniel's summary of Open Internet but we need to also address the issue of accessibility. If you recall Elliott suggested the following
An Internet that is equally accessible to all people for all purposes, and at every level of the stack. At the lower end of the stack, that means no impediments are placed based on the sender, recipient, content, application or type of data being transmitted.
If we could add the concept of accessibility to your definition I think that would greatly help
I also like Sylvia Cadena's text and hope we can figure out a way to add this to our definition.
That means no impediments are placed based on the sender, recipient, content, application or type of data being transmitted. >> >>
That means policy and regulation promote, support, facilitate and guarantee access
That means equality of access at a pragmatic level is ensured by assuring access at prices affordable to all members of society
That means training is available about how to manage, operate and how to use the Internet, as well as education in how to use it effectively
That means participation on an equal footing at all levels is encouraged, specially by those that might be discriminated against
Best, Judith
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On 9/4/2017 7:04 AM, Daniel Dardailler wrote:
How about this for a start.
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The concept of “Open Internet”, as referred to in the CCWG objectives statement, can be described at many levels, e.g. technogical, business, political, etc, and in particular, at the societal level:
An Open Internet is one where all people are empowered to contribute and to participate in building a worldwide culture that opens our hearts and minds by respecting differences. It is an Internet (i.e. a network of networks) that we, the people of the world, recognize as ours — something we have built together for one another
At the technogical level, openness refers to how easily machines can connect to each others and how stable, scalable, and secure the network is. The IP routing and numbering systems, the DNS, or the Open Standard process, have historically been serving an Open Internet because of the opportunities they have provided to participate, innovate and compete without artificial impediments (e.g. patents, walled-garden).
At the policy level, supporting the Open Internet happens when for instance governments put in place regulations that promote, support, facilitate and guarantee equal connectivity at prices affordable to all members of society, together with education and training efforts toward making the next generation more Internet savvy.
In an ideal world, an Open Internet is one where no control or impediments are placed based on the sender, recipient, content, application or type of data being transmitted.
From that broad description, the CCWG has considered the parts of the Open Internet that: - are aligned with the overall ICANN's mission and core commitments - are in need of funding for more development support - are creating value-added for the Open Internet at large - are consensual enough so that they do not endanger the ICANN community
... <and here we need to apply our CCWG "filter" regarding layering, shared value, political issues, etc>
On 2017-08-31 22:44, Marika Konings wrote:
Dear All,
Hereby attached the updated version of the open internet definition / description which incorporates the comments and suggestions that were submitted since the last version. As there are a number of definitions / descriptions that have been put forward so far, are there any volunteers who would like to take a stab at coming up with a draft that brings the different perspectives together and addresses the different comments and contributions to date which the CCWG could review during its next meeting?
Best regards,
Marika
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