I really don't know Daniel. I heard sometimes people arguing for this but I never noticed that this topic is debated. Maybe someone else knows more. Erika On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Daniel Dardailler <danield@w3.org> wrote:
On 2017-09-05 17:17, Erika Mann wrote:
Indeed, we don't even need to discuss this topic further.
I agree it's out of scope.
Can we just be pointed to the place where these application fees refund discussions are happening ? (e.g. in another ICANN group). Thanks.
Erika
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:21 PM, Jon Nevett <jon@donuts.email> wrote:
Sean: No refunds from the auction proceeds were committed to or
anticipated. Not sure where this idea is coming from. Jon
On Sep 5, 2017, at 10:13 AM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 to that Alberto line of reasoning Alberto. Though it will be good to know if ICANN has indeed legally committed (as per contract) to provide some refunds from auction proceed.
If that is the case i don't think its something within our scope to challenge we will just then need to clarify from ICANN how much is really available and accessible in the auction proceeds account.
Regards
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Alberto Soto <asoto@ibero-americano.org> wrote: do not know how the signed contract is. I do not know if the return is correct. Whoever buys a restaurant and does not get profitability does so at their own risk. Who buys a domain and does not obtain profitability, does so at their own risk. ICANN should not be the guarantee if no profitability is obtained.
Regards Alberto
-----Mensaje original----- De: ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org] En nombre de Daniel Dardailler Enviado el: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 6:56 AM Para: John R. Levine <johnl@iecc.com> CC: ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org Asunto: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] lotsa money, was Fwd: Board reply to CCWG-AP
On 2017-09-04 23:48, John R. Levine wrote:
Is the current financial position of ICANN really an impediment
to
what ICANN wants to do in support of its mission ? I was under
the
impression that ICANN's budget was healthy enough to implement
its
mission optimally today, with also a large untouched pot coming
from
the new gTLD application process (unused legal costs if I
understand
correctly).
Not really. ICANN's operating budget is fully committed. There
is
indeed a lot of unspent new gTLD application money, but it's a
whole
separate can of worms. It's not ours to spend and since ICANN
said
the price was set to cover their costs, the obvious and ethical
thing
to do will be to refund the excess to the applicants.
I kind of agree with the ethical part (although I haven't read the contract those applicants signed and what was promised in writing) but is it really going to be obvious to refund hundreds of applicants, some of them potentially gone as a business ?
R's, John
PS:
How is it different to give away the funds to the ICANN community (for projects aligned with the ICANN mission) vs. to give them
back
to the board directly, given that the board is driven by the
community ?
Well, actually, it's the board's money to give away, not ours.
We're
just offering them advice.
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