Proposed agenda -new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting on Thursday 19 April at 14.00 UTC
Dear All, Please find below the proposed agenda for the next new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting which is scheduled for Thursday 19 April at 14.00 UTC. You are encouraged to review the attached documents ahead of the meeting and share any comments and / or proposed edits you may have with the mailing list. Best regards, Marika Proposed Agenda – new gTLD Auction Proceeds Cross-Community Working Group Meeting – Thursday 19 April at 14.00 UTC. As a reminder, all conference call details will be circulated on the “ntfy” (short for “notify”) mailing list to which members only are subscribed in a read-only mode. These details must not be circulated on the wider public WG mailing list. To avoid burdening the WG public mailing list, please send your apologies ahead of time (apologies after the call will no longer be taken into account) and your dial-out requests to the GNSO Secretariat: gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> in advance of the meeting. 1. Roll call 2. Welcome / SOI & DOI Updates 3. Review and discuss proposed response to ICANN Board (see draft letter attached) 4. Review and discuss proposed update to examples document (see attached) 5. (at 14.30 UTC) Exchange with external experts – Marc D’Hooge, Managerial Adviser, Innovation Finance Advisory, European Investment Bank 6. Confirm next steps and next meeting – Thursday 26 April at 14.00 UTC Marika Konings Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: marika.konings@icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org> Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses<http://learn.icann.org/courses/gnso> and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages<http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-e...>.
Hello Marika, all I disagree that there's a consensus in the group wrt dropping the Preamble from our charter and deliverable. I stated my rationales already: - without it, and with only "in service of the ICANN mission", we come pretty weak on the scoping part of our work. - the board made several specific and valid comments that we just need to take up to fix our document - providing some guidance for an Open and Interoperable Internet, in particular the middleware technical infrastructure role (open standards, tools, etc), is the minimum we can do when considering that the original vague scope was already "good for the Internet". I'll send a separate msg on the examples editing. On 2018-04-17 18:18, Marika Konings wrote:
Dear All,
Please find below the proposed agenda for the next new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting which is scheduled for Thursday 19 April at 14.00 UTC. You are encouraged to review the attached documents ahead of the meeting and share any comments and / or proposed edits you may have with the mailing list.
Best regards,
Marika
PROPOSED AGENDA – NEW GTLD AUCTION PROCEEDS CROSS-COMMUNITY WORKING GROUP MEETING – THURSDAY 19 APRIL AT 14.00 UTC.
_As a reminder, all conference call details will be circulated on the “ntfy” (short for “notify”) mailing list to which members only are subscribed in a read-only mode. These details must not be circulated on the wider public WG mailing list. To avoid burdening the WG public mailing list, please send your apologies ahead of time (apologies after the call will no longer be taken into account) and your dial-out requests to the GNSO Secretariat: __gnso-secs@icann.org__ __in advance of the meeting._
* Roll call * Welcome / SOI & DOI Updates * Review and discuss proposed response to ICANN Board (see draft letter attached) * Review and discuss proposed update to examples document (see attached) * (at 14.30 UTC) Exchange with external experts – Marc D’Hooge, Managerial Adviser, Innovation Finance Advisory, European Investment Bank * Confirm next steps and next meeting – Thursday 26 April at 14.00 UTC
_MARIKA KONINGS_
_Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) _
_Email: __marika.konings@icann.org__ _
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_Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO_
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Dear Daniel - We will have some time to discuss the best approach concerning the preamble today and in our call next week. Thanks, Erika Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 19, 2018, at 10:37 AM, Daniel Dardailler <danield@w3.org> wrote:
Hello Marika, all
I disagree that there's a consensus in the group wrt dropping the Preamble from our charter and deliverable.
I stated my rationales already: - without it, and with only "in service of the ICANN mission", we come pretty weak on the scoping part of our work. - the board made several specific and valid comments that we just need to take up to fix our document - providing some guidance for an Open and Interoperable Internet, in particular the middleware technical infrastructure role (open standards, tools, etc), is the minimum we can do when considering that the original vague scope was already "good for the Internet".
I'll send a separate msg on the examples editing.
On 2018-04-17 18:18, Marika Konings wrote: Dear All, Please find below the proposed agenda for the next new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting which is scheduled for Thursday 19 April at 14.00 UTC. You are encouraged to review the attached documents ahead of the meeting and share any comments and / or proposed edits you may have with the mailing list. Best regards, Marika PROPOSED AGENDA – NEW GTLD AUCTION PROCEEDS CROSS-COMMUNITY WORKING GROUP MEETING – THURSDAY 19 APRIL AT 14.00 UTC. _As a reminder, all conference call details will be circulated on the “ntfy” (short for “notify”) mailing list to which members only are subscribed in a read-only mode. These details must not be circulated on the wider public WG mailing list. To avoid burdening the WG public mailing list, please send your apologies ahead of time (apologies after the call will no longer be taken into account) and your dial-out requests to the GNSO Secretariat: __gnso-secs@icann.org__ __in advance of the meeting._ * Roll call * Welcome / SOI & DOI Updates * Review and discuss proposed response to ICANN Board (see draft letter attached) * Review and discuss proposed update to examples document (see attached) * (at 14.30 UTC) Exchange with external experts – Marc D’Hooge, Managerial Adviser, Innovation Finance Advisory, European Investment Bank * Confirm next steps and next meeting – Thursday 26 April at 14.00 UTC _MARIKA KONINGS_ _Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) _ _Email: __marika.konings@icann.org__ _ _ _ _Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO_ _Find out more about the GNSO by taking our __interactive courses_ [1]_ and visiting the __GNSO Newcomer pages_ [2]_. _ Links: ------ [1] http://learn.icann.org/courses/gnso [2] http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-e... _______________________________________________ Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing list Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds
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With this email I will both apologize for my absence today and support the general direction of Daniel’s comments. The Open Internet and the open standards that support them are indistinguishable. You can’t have one without the other. It would gall me to see something like standards development for 5G at the ITU (closed and proprietary) being within scope here. This should be crystal clear. Agree with him on the preamble as well. Thanks. EN
On Apr 19, 2018, at 5:27 AM, Erika Mann <erika@erikamann.com> wrote:
Dear Daniel - We will have some time to discuss the best approach concerning the preamble today and in our call next week.
Thanks, Erika
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On Apr 19, 2018, at 10:37 AM, Daniel Dardailler <danield@w3.org> wrote:
Hello Marika, all
I disagree that there's a consensus in the group wrt dropping the Preamble from our charter and deliverable.
I stated my rationales already: - without it, and with only "in service of the ICANN mission", we come pretty weak on the scoping part of our work. - the board made several specific and valid comments that we just need to take up to fix our document - providing some guidance for an Open and Interoperable Internet, in particular the middleware technical infrastructure role (open standards, tools, etc), is the minimum we can do when considering that the original vague scope was already "good for the Internet".
I'll send a separate msg on the examples editing.
On 2018-04-17 18:18, Marika Konings wrote: Dear All, Please find below the proposed agenda for the next new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting which is scheduled for Thursday 19 April at 14.00 UTC. You are encouraged to review the attached documents ahead of the meeting and share any comments and / or proposed edits you may have with the mailing list. Best regards, Marika PROPOSED AGENDA – NEW GTLD AUCTION PROCEEDS CROSS-COMMUNITY WORKING GROUP MEETING – THURSDAY 19 APRIL AT 14.00 UTC. _As a reminder, all conference call details will be circulated on the “ntfy” (short for “notify”) mailing list to which members only are subscribed in a read-only mode. These details must not be circulated on the wider public WG mailing list. To avoid burdening the WG public mailing list, please send your apologies ahead of time (apologies after the call will no longer be taken into account) and your dial-out requests to the GNSO Secretariat: __gnso-secs@icann.org__ __in advance of the meeting._ * Roll call * Welcome / SOI & DOI Updates * Review and discuss proposed response to ICANN Board (see draft letter attached) * Review and discuss proposed update to examples document (see attached) * (at 14.30 UTC) Exchange with external experts – Marc D’Hooge, Managerial Adviser, Innovation Finance Advisory, European Investment Bank * Confirm next steps and next meeting – Thursday 26 April at 14.00 UTC _MARIKA KONINGS_ _Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) _ _Email: __marika.konings@icann.org__ _ _ _ _Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO_ _Find out more about the GNSO by taking our __interactive courses_ [1]_ and visiting the __GNSO Newcomer pages_ [2]_. _ Links: ------ [1] http://learn.icann.org/courses/gnso [2] http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-e... _______________________________________________ Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing list Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds
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We will discuss this Elliot, we will not have sufficient time today to discuss all elements but we will have it on our agenda for next week. We will miss you. Cheers, Erika On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Elliot Noss <enoss@tucows.com> wrote:
With this email I will both apologize for my absence today and support the general direction of Daniel’s comments. The Open Internet and the open standards that support them are indistinguishable. You can’t have one without the other. It would gall me to see something like standards development for 5G at the ITU (closed and proprietary) being within scope here. This should be crystal clear. Agree with him on the preamble as well. Thanks.
EN
On Apr 19, 2018, at 5:27 AM, Erika Mann <erika@erikamann.com> wrote:
Dear Daniel - We will have some time to discuss the best approach concerning the preamble today and in our call next week.
Thanks, Erika
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 19, 2018, at 10:37 AM, Daniel Dardailler <danield@w3.org> wrote:
Hello Marika, all
I disagree that there's a consensus in the group wrt dropping the Preamble from our charter and deliverable.
I stated my rationales already: - without it, and with only "in service of the ICANN mission", we come pretty weak on the scoping part of our work. - the board made several specific and valid comments that we just need to take up to fix our document - providing some guidance for an Open and Interoperable Internet, in particular the middleware technical infrastructure role (open standards, tools, etc), is the minimum we can do when considering that the original vague scope was already "good for the Internet".
I'll send a separate msg on the examples editing.
On 2018-04-17 18:18, Marika Konings wrote: Dear All, Please find below the proposed agenda for the next new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting which is scheduled for Thursday 19 April at 14.00 UTC. You are encouraged to review the attached documents ahead of the meeting and share any comments and / or proposed edits you may have with the mailing list. Best regards, Marika PROPOSED AGENDA – NEW GTLD AUCTION PROCEEDS CROSS-COMMUNITY WORKING GROUP MEETING – THURSDAY 19 APRIL AT 14.00 UTC. _As a reminder, all conference call details will be circulated on the “ntfy” (short for “notify”) mailing list to which members only are subscribed in a read-only mode. These details must not be circulated on the wider public WG mailing list. To avoid burdening the WG public mailing list, please send your apologies ahead of time (apologies after the call will no longer be taken into account) and your dial-out requests to the GNSO Secretariat: __gnso-secs@icann.org__ __in advance of the meeting._ * Roll call * Welcome / SOI & DOI Updates * Review and discuss proposed response to ICANN Board (see draft letter attached) * Review and discuss proposed update to examples document (see attached) * (at 14.30 UTC) Exchange with external experts – Marc D’Hooge, Managerial Adviser, Innovation Finance Advisory, European Investment Bank * Confirm next steps and next meeting – Thursday 26 April at 14.00 UTC _MARIKA KONINGS_ _Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) _ _Email: __marika.konings@icann.org__ _ _ _ _Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO_ _Find out more about the GNSO by taking our __interactive courses_ [1]_ and visiting the __GNSO Newcomer pages_ [2]_. _ Links: ------ [1] http://learn.icann.org/courses/gnso [2] http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/ presentations/policy-efforts.htm#newcomers _______________________________________________ Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing list Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds
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Regarding the examples. Since there seems to be a pass at anonymizing the examples, I suggest to remove the specific languages in parenth from the first example as well: A coalition of organizations working on remote participation tools and content receive a long-term grant to support localization efforts for 7 local languages not covered under the existing ICANN’s framework (Bahasa, Tagalog, Dutch, Hindi, Japanese, Malay, Urdu). This one: A donation (unrestricted gift) to an organization that supports standards development in relation to the Internet’s unique identifier systems. This doesn't fly well. First, "an organization that supports standards development" is ill-defined, there are organizations that develop standards, like IETF, IEEE, or the W3C, and they are called SDOs. Why not use that term ? Second, there are several organizations that develop standards "in relation to Internet's unique identifier systems" and they all do other standards that are unrelated to DNS or IP, some even are working to replace them ;), so "unrestricted gift" is clearly off. Same comment on "unrestricted gift" for the next one on bind. This doesn't add anything of value to the example and it introduces a risk even as a mission scoping guidelines. This one: 5 year grants to support the development of NGOs and Internet Governance forums in 100 locations at local, national, regional and global level increases participation at ICANN processes by 35%. The sentence seems to missing something before "increases" ? And what does "participation at ICANN processes" mean ? Are the "Internet Governance forums" mentioned here the regional UN/IGF ? So is this saying ICANN ok funding the UN ? And finally, this one, that I provided early on: Support work done by other organizations that are of common interest such as: ● enhanced Web security and privacy, ● work on handling Web related IDN and Universal acceptance issues, ● .. I suggest, in order to keep the spirit of my example, to qualify the type of organizations mentioned here as developing open standards, not just any random organization working around them. Also, "other" doesn't refer to anything here. So: Support work done by open standards developing organizations that are of common interest for all, such as:
Dear All - We will have our call today at 14:00 UTC as usual and we will start the exchange with Marc D'Hooge from the European Investment Bank (EIB) at 14:30 UTC. We have not received from him answers to our questions but we still thought it's nonetheless a good idea to have an exchange with him. If you remember we wanted to have an exchange with someone from a) ICANN (we had an exchange with Xavier and Sam) - with someone from a smaller organization (we had an exchange with Nominet) - with someone that works as an advisor to charitable organizations (we had an exchange with Sarah) - and we wanted an exchange with someone from a large organization (EIB today). The EIB is one of the largest investors and the project Marc D'Hooge oversaw for many years, the so called Risk-Sharing Facility allowed the EIB and the European Commission to invest in higher risk carrying projects across Europe and even beyond. The main reason why we, the leadership team, believe it's good to talk to Marc D'Hooge lies in the fact that this project forced the EIB and the EC to cooperate together in a very intensive way. Insofar our exchange with him today might give us some insight into questions related to the challenges ICANN might have to expect if if would jointly coordinate the Auction Proceeds 'Fund' with a second entity. Second, he might be able to talk about 'oversight' issues as well because the EC had to ensure that key EC mission related goals were realized - something ICANN will have to do as well. Marc D’hooge, was the Deputy Head of Division, Research, Development, Innovation RSFF Programme Manager and he's now the Managerial Adviser - InnovFin Program Manager *Below is a selection of key points the EIB and EC defined in their Risk-Sharing Finance Facility approach: * http://www.eib.org/attachments/rsff_faq_31052007.pdf 1. *What is RSFF?* RSFF is the acronym for the Risk Sharing Finance Facility, a new facility jointly developed by the European Commission (EC) and the European Investment Bank (EIB) to finance higher risk Research, Technological Development, Demonstration and Innovation investments (RDI projects). 2. *How much is available under RSFF*? RSFF is a EUR 10bn debt facility financing sub and low investment grade junior/mezzanine/senior financing for eligible, for high risk RDI project investments. This amount will be financed by EIB by leveraging up to EUR 2bn of capital of which EUR 1bn is from the Community Seventh Framework Programme and EUR 1bn from EIB’s own resources that covers the risks incurred related to higher risk financing. 3. *What are the objectives of the RSFF?* The investment objectives of RSFF are to facilitate and accelerate RDI investment as the strategic targets set in most European countries for both public and private sector RDI investment remain below target. One of the key factors constraining the implementation of RDI activities is the insufficient availability of financing, at acceptable terms, to promoters of investments involving complex products and technologies, unproven markets and intangible assets. In order to overcome these difficulties, the Commission and the EIB have joined forces to set up the Risk Sharing Finance Facility, an innovative scheme to improve access to debt financing for private companies or public institutions promoting RDI activities. 4. *Who can benefit from RSFF financing?* RSFF financing is provided to promoters of eligible RSFF projects, i.e. private and public entities of all sizes and ownership, including Midcaps, Small and Medium-sized Enterprises (SMEs), Special Purpose Companies, Joint Ventures, PPP’s Research Institutes, Universities, Science and Technology Parks, Joint Technology Initiatives as well as Partners collaborating under European Technology Platforms and Eureka. Beneficiaries under RSFF financing will be required to present a coherent business plan confirming their capacity to repay RSFF financing. The EIB will under RSFF provide or guarantee loans with higher risk profiles compared to its normal financing activities. 7. *What kind of investment can be supported?* The scope of eligible activities is wide and extends from traditional “brick and mortar” investments to equipment and intangible investments such as R&D operating cost, salaries of researchers, management and support staff, utilities, consumables, IPR acquisition or protection costs. *8. How much financing can the EIB provide?* Up to a limit of EUR 300m per project: The share of EIB financing is limited to 50% of the total amount of eligible project cost, i.e. of the investments in RDI and/or research infrastructures mentioned above. Small Projects, i.e. with a financing need of EUR 7.5m or more can be financed directly by the EIB. For small and medium-sized enterprises and projects with an investment cost of up to EUR 25m, the EIB is also in the process of establishing a network of RSFF Framework risk sharing credit facilities to be made available to its partner banks in the EU and in Associated Countries. Looking forward to our call today, Erika On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 6:18 PM, Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org> wrote:
Dear All,
Please find below the proposed agenda for the next new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting which is scheduled for Thursday 19 April at 14.00 UTC. You are encouraged to review the attached documents ahead of the meeting and share any comments and / or proposed edits you may have with the mailing list.
Best regards,
Marika
*Proposed Agenda – new gTLD Auction Proceeds Cross-Community Working Group Meeting – Thursday 19 April at 14.00 UTC. *
*As a reminder, all conference call details will be circulated on the “ntfy” (short for “notify”) mailing list to which members only are subscribed in a read-only mode. These details must not be circulated on the wider public WG mailing list. To avoid burdening the WG public mailing list, please send your apologies ahead of time (apologies after the call will no longer be taken into account) and your dial-out requests to the GNSO Secretariat: **gnso-secs@icann.org* <gnso-secs@icann.org> *in advance of the meeting.*
1. Roll call 2. Welcome / SOI & DOI Updates 3. Review and discuss proposed response to ICANN Board (see draft letter attached) 4. Review and discuss proposed update to examples document (see attached) 5. (at 14.30 UTC) Exchange with external experts – Marc D’Hooge, Managerial Adviser, Innovation Finance Advisory, European Investment Bank 6. Confirm next steps and next meeting – Thursday 26 April at 14.00 UTC
*Marika Konings*
*Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) *
*Email: **marika.konings@icann.org* <marika.konings@icann.org>
*Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO*
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