Thank you for calling that out. Both times through the document I was jumping around. The point about preferring simply that to a relationship with an external body, which I believe was clear consensus, does remain. EN

On Jul 16, 2019, at 8:14 AM, Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> wrote:

Hi Elliot,

Thanks for your message and your review. The following text is included on page 21 in response to charter question 3:

“Regardless of which mechanism is chosen, an independent evaluation panel would be established and responsible for the review and evaluation of applications. Neither the Board nor staff will be taking decisions on individual applications but will instead focus its consideration of the slate on whether the rules of the process were followed by the independent panel. However, due care will need to be given during the implementation phase that safeguards are in place to ensure the independence of the members of the independent evaluation panel.”

Erika and Alan are working on some additional proposed text in that same section to provide additional detail on the role of the community. There is currently a placeholder on page 21 for that text. If you would like to contribute to that work, I’m sure they would welcome your input, noting that there will be an opportunity for the full CCWG to “fine tune” that text once they have circulated it.

I hope this is helpful.

Kind regards, Emily

From: Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org <mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Elliot Noss <enoss@tucows.com <mailto:enoss@tucows.com>> Date: Tuesday, 16 July 2019 at 13:49 To: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org <mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org <mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] REMINDER: Due 19 July - review updated draft Final Report and outstanding questions

Dear All,

I feel like I have lost the plot. Further, I feel like I am making the same points over repeatedly.

I believe that we have repeatedly discussed and agreed through the process that the preferred approach was:

* have the review and decisions on awards made by members of the community sitting in a group (how this is selected is tbd).

* not have staff perform this function.

This will be, to my recollection, the third time I have raised this as at odds with a written report. Every time I raise this issue in a meeting there is broad agreement and no one on the other side. If feels to me like the report reads:

* staff will perform this function with an external organization as a partner.

Did something dramatic happen in Marrakech that overturned nearly two years of discussions? Again, I feel lost. Please help.

EN

On Jul 9, 2019, at 9:22 AM, Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org <mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org>> wrote:

Dear All,

As a reminder, the deadline to review the draft Final Report and questions for input is Friday, 19 July. Please find the documents attached and additional details below.

Please also find attached high-level notes from our face-to-face meeting at ICANN65, which may assist in your review. The transcript of the meeting is available here:https://65.schedule.icann.org/meetings/1058268 [65.schedule.icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__65.schedule.icann.org_m...>

Kind regards, Emily

From: Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org <mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org <mailto:marika.konings@icann.org>> Date: Friday, 28 June 2019 at 17:20 To: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org <mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org <mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>> Subject: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated draft Final Report and outstanding questions

Dear All,

Following the new gTLD Auction Proceeds meeting that took place on Wednesday 26 June, please find attached for your review the latest version of the draft Final Report. Also attached you will find the questions for CCWG input which have been updated to reflect the items that were discussed and/or resolved during Wednesday’s meeting.

As a reminder, you are expected to review the draft Final Report as well as the questions for input by Friday, 19 July at the latest. By that date, you are expected to:

Have identified any issues that require further CCWG consideration or discussion that were not already been flagged in the questions document; Have reviewed the issues and questions identified in the questions document that were not considered during Wednesday’s meeting and flag which ones of these do need further consideration and/or provide responses to these questions that the CCWG should consider further; Have provided any edits to the draft Final Report (minor edits like grammar corrections can be sent directly to staff, any substantive edits should be shared with the list).

As a reminder, the next new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting will be scheduled for 31 July at 14.00 UTC.

Thanks,

Marika

Marika Konings Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: marika.konings@icann.org <mailto:marika.konings@icann.org>

Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__learn.icann.org_courses_...> and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_sites_gns...>.

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Dear Elliot - I understand your point but, please keep in mind, we’re at the end of the process. We have to make up our mind about: A) do want to recommend a single mechanism or, B) do we want to recommend a hierarchy of mechanisms and let others then take the final decision. I rather prefer that we can make a single recommendation instead of three ... but, well, let’s discuss it (again). Thanks, Erika Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 16, 2019, at 2:59 PM, Elliot Noss <enoss@tucows.com> wrote:

Thank you for calling that out. Both times through the document I was jumping around.

The point about preferring simply that to a relationship with an external body, which I believe was clear consensus, does remain.

EN

...

On Jul 16, 2019, at 8:14 AM, Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> wrote:

Hi Elliot,

Thanks for your message and your review. The following text is included on page 21 in response to charter question 3:

“Regardless of which mechanism is chosen, an independent evaluation panel would be established and responsible for the review and evaluation of applications. Neither the Board nor staff will be taking decisions on individual applications but will instead focus its consideration of the slate on whether the rules of the process were followed by the independent panel. However, due care will need to be given during the implementation phase that safeguards are in place to ensure the independence of the members of the independent evaluation panel.”

Erika and Alan are working on some additional proposed text in that same section to provide additional detail on the role of the community. There is currently a placeholder on page 21 for that text. If you would like to contribute to that work, I’m sure they would welcome your input, noting that there will be an opportunity for the full CCWG to “fine tune” that text once they have circulated it.

I hope this is helpful.

Kind regards, Emily

From: Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Elliot Noss <enoss@tucows.com> Date: Tuesday, 16 July 2019 at 13:49 To: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] REMINDER: Due 19 July - review updated draft Final Report and outstanding questions

Dear All,

I feel like I have lost the plot. Further, I feel like I am making the same points over repeatedly.

I believe that we have repeatedly discussed and agreed through the process that the preferred approach was:

* have the review and decisions on awards made by members of the community sitting in a group (how this is selected is tbd).

* not have staff perform this function.

This will be, to my recollection, the third time I have raised this as at odds with a written report. Every time I raise this issue in a meeting there is broad agreement and no one on the other side. If feels to me like the report reads:

* staff will perform this function with an external organization as a partner.

Did something dramatic happen in Marrakech that overturned nearly two years of discussions? Again, I feel lost. Please help.

EN

On Jul 9, 2019, at 9:22 AM, Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> wrote:

Dear All,

As a reminder, the deadline to review the draft Final Report and questions for input is Friday, 19 July. Please find the documents attached and additional details below.

Please also find attached high-level notes from our face-to-face meeting at ICANN65, which may assist in your review. The transcript of the meeting is available here:https://65.schedule.icann.org/meetings/1058268 [65.schedule.icann.org]

Kind regards, Emily

From: Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org> Date: Friday, 28 June 2019 at 17:20 To: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> Subject: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated draft Final Report and outstanding questions

Dear All,

Following the new gTLD Auction Proceeds meeting that took place on Wednesday 26 June, please find attached for your review the latest version of the draft Final Report. Also attached you will find the questions for CCWG input which have been updated to reflect the items that were discussed and/or resolved during Wednesday’s meeting.

As a reminder, you are expected to review the draft Final Report as well as the questions for input by Friday, 19 July at the latest. By that date, you are expected to:

Have identified any issues that require further CCWG consideration or discussion that were not already been flagged in the questions document; Have reviewed the issues and questions identified in the questions document that were not considered during Wednesday’s meeting and flag which ones of these do need further consideration and/or provide responses to these questions that the CCWG should consider further; Have provided any edits to the draft Final Report (minor edits like grammar corrections can be sent directly to staff, any substantive edits should be shared with the list).

As a reminder, the next new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting will be scheduled for 31 July at 14.00 UTC.

Thanks,

Marika

Marika Konings Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: marika.konings@icann.org

Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages.

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FWIW, the Board has been clear that it believes: - neither the Board nor Org should play a decision-making role with respect to individual applications - evaluations and selection must be done by a completely independent panel. Emphasis on completely independent. J. Beckwith Burr HARRIS, WILTSHIRE & GRANNIS LLP 1919 M Street NW/8th Floor Washington DC 20036 202.730.1316 (P) 202.352.6367 (M) ________________________________ From: Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of elliot noss <enoss@tucows.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 11:25:59 AM To: Erika Mann Cc: ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] REMINDER: Due 19 July - review updated draft Final Report and outstanding questions I don’t want to fork the thread but my point is that I believe we have done so (twice) and it is A with community decision-making. EN

On Jul 16, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Erika Mann <erika@erikamann.com> wrote:

Dear Elliot -

I understand your point but, please keep in mind, we’re at the end of the process.

We have to make up our mind about: A) do want to recommend a single mechanism or, B) do we want to recommend a hierarchy of mechanisms and let others then take the final decision.

I rather prefer that we can make a single recommendation instead of three ... but, well, let’s discuss it (again).

Thanks, Erika

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 16, 2019, at 2:59 PM, Elliot Noss <enoss@tucows.com> wrote:

...

Thank you for calling that out. Both times through the document I was jumping around.

The point about preferring simply that to a relationship with an external body, which I believe was clear consensus, does remain.

EN

...

On Jul 16, 2019, at 8:14 AM, Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> wrote:

Hi Elliot,

Thanks for your message and your review. The following text is included on page 21 in response to charter question 3:

“Regardless of which mechanism is chosen, an independent evaluation panel would be established and responsible for the review and evaluation of applications. Neither the Board nor staff will be taking decisions on individual applications but will instead focus its consideration of the slate on whether the rules of the process were followed by the independent panel. However, due care will need to be given during the implementation phase that safeguards are in place to ensure the independence of the members of the independent evaluation panel.”

Erika and Alan are working on some additional proposed text in that same section to provide additional detail on the role of the community. There is currently a placeholder on page 21 for that text. If you would like to contribute to that work, I’m sure they would welcome your input, noting that there will be an opportunity for the full CCWG to “fine tune” that text once they have circulated it.

I hope this is helpful.

Kind regards, Emily

From: Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Elliot Noss <enoss@tucows.com> Date: Tuesday, 16 July 2019 at 13:49 To: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] REMINDER: Due 19 July - review updated draft Final Report and outstanding questions

Dear All,

I feel like I have lost the plot. Further, I feel like I am making the same points over repeatedly.

I believe that we have repeatedly discussed and agreed through the process that the preferred approach was:

* have the review and decisions on awards made by members of the community sitting in a group (how this is selected is tbd).

* not have staff perform this function.

This will be, to my recollection, the third time I have raised this as at odds with a written report. Every time I raise this issue in a meeting there is broad agreement and no one on the other side. If feels to me like the report reads:

* staff will perform this function with an external organization as a partner.

Did something dramatic happen in Marrakech that overturned nearly two years of discussions? Again, I feel lost. Please help.

EN

On Jul 9, 2019, at 9:22 AM, Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> wrote:

Dear All,

As a reminder, the deadline to review the draft Final Report and questions for input is Friday, 19 July. Please find the documents attached and additional details below.

Please also find attached high-level notes from our face-to-face meeting at ICANN65, which may assist in your review. The transcript of the meeting is available here:https://65.schedule.icann.org/meetings/1058268 [65.schedule.icann.org]

Kind regards, Emily

From: Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org> Date: Friday, 28 June 2019 at 17:20 To: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> Subject: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated draft Final Report and outstanding questions

Dear All,

Following the new gTLD Auction Proceeds meeting that took place on Wednesday 26 June, please find attached for your review the latest version of the draft Final Report. Also attached you will find the questions for CCWG input which have been updated to reflect the items that were discussed and/or resolved during Wednesday’s meeting.

As a reminder, you are expected to review the draft Final Report as well as the questions for input by Friday, 19 July at the latest. By that date, you are expected to:

• Have identified any issues that require further CCWG consideration or discussion that were not already been flagged in the questions document; • Have reviewed the issues and questions identified in the questions document that were not considered during Wednesday’s meeting and flag which ones of these do need further consideration and/or provide responses to these questions that the CCWG should consider further; • Have provided any edits to the draft Final Report (minor edits like grammar corrections can be sent directly to staff, any substantive edits should be shared with the list).

As a reminder, the next new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting will be scheduled for 31 July at 14.00 UTC.

Thanks,

Marika

Marika Konings Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: marika.konings@icann.org

Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages.

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indeed. J. Beckwith Burr HARRIS, WILTSHIRE & GRANNIS LLP 1919 M Street NW/8th Floor Washington DC 20036 202.730.1316 (P) 202.352.6367 (M) ________________________________ From: Erika Mann <erika@erikamann.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 1:14:33 PM To: Becky Burr Cc: elliot noss; ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] REMINDER: Due 19 July - review updated draft Final Report and outstanding questions Indeed Becky and, we noted this multiple times in various notes. Erika Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 16, 2019, at 7:00 PM, Becky Burr <BBurr@hwglaw.com> wrote:

FWIW, the Board has been clear that it believes:

- neither the Board nor Org should play a decision-making role with respect to individual applications

- evaluations and selection must be done by a completely independent panel. Emphasis on completely independent.

J. Beckwith Burr

HARRIS, WILTSHIRE & GRANNIS LLP

1919 M Street NW/8th Floor

Washington DC 20036

202.730.1316 (P) 202.352.6367 (M)

________________________________ From: Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of elliot noss <enoss@tucows.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 11:25:59 AM To: Erika Mann Cc: ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] REMINDER: Due 19 July - review updated draft Final Report and outstanding questions

I don’t want to fork the thread but my point is that I believe we have done so (twice) and it is A with community decision-making.

EN

...

On Jul 16, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Erika Mann <erika@erikamann.com> wrote:

Dear Elliot -

I understand your point but, please keep in mind, we’re at the end of the process.

We have to make up our mind about: A) do want to recommend a single mechanism or, B) do we want to recommend a hierarchy of mechanisms and let others then take the final decision.

I rather prefer that we can make a single recommendation instead of three ... but, well, let’s discuss it (again).

Thanks, Erika

Sent from my iPhone

...

On Jul 16, 2019, at 2:59 PM, Elliot Noss <enoss@tucows.com> wrote:

Thank you for calling that out. Both times through the document I was jumping around.

The point about preferring simply that to a relationship with an external body, which I believe was clear consensus, does remain.

EN

...

On Jul 16, 2019, at 8:14 AM, Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> wrote:

Hi Elliot,

Thanks for your message and your review. The following text is included on page 21 in response to charter question 3:

“Regardless of which mechanism is chosen, an independent evaluation panel would be established and responsible for the review and evaluation of applications. Neither the Board nor staff will be taking decisions on individual applications but will instead focus its consideration of the slate on whether the rules of the process were followed by the independent panel. However, due care will need to be given during the implementation phase that safeguards are in place to ensure the independence of the members of the independent evaluation panel.”

Erika and Alan are working on some additional proposed text in that same section to provide additional detail on the role of the community. There is currently a placeholder on page 21 for that text. If you would like to contribute to that work, I’m sure they would welcome your input, noting that there will be an opportunity for the full CCWG to “fine tune” that text once they have circulated it.

I hope this is helpful.

Kind regards, Emily

From: Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Elliot Noss <enoss@tucows.com> Date: Tuesday, 16 July 2019 at 13:49 To: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] REMINDER: Due 19 July - review updated draft Final Report and outstanding questions

Dear All,

I feel like I have lost the plot. Further, I feel like I am making the same points over repeatedly.

I believe that we have repeatedly discussed and agreed through the process that the preferred approach was:

* have the review and decisions on awards made by members of the community sitting in a group (how this is selected is tbd).

* not have staff perform this function.

This will be, to my recollection, the third time I have raised this as at odds with a written report. Every time I raise this issue in a meeting there is broad agreement and no one on the other side. If feels to me like the report reads:

* staff will perform this function with an external organization as a partner.

Did something dramatic happen in Marrakech that overturned nearly two years of discussions? Again, I feel lost. Please help.

EN

On Jul 9, 2019, at 9:22 AM, Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> wrote:

Dear All,

As a reminder, the deadline to review the draft Final Report and questions for input is Friday, 19 July. Please find the documents attached and additional details below.

Please also find attached high-level notes from our face-to-face meeting at ICANN65, which may assist in your review. The transcript of the meeting is available here:https://65.schedule.icann.org/meetings/1058268 [65.schedule.icann.org]

Kind regards, Emily

From: Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org> Date: Friday, 28 June 2019 at 17:20 To: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> Subject: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated draft Final Report and outstanding questions

Dear All,

Following the new gTLD Auction Proceeds meeting that took place on Wednesday 26 June, please find attached for your review the latest version of the draft Final Report. Also attached you will find the questions for CCWG input which have been updated to reflect the items that were discussed and/or resolved during Wednesday’s meeting.

As a reminder, you are expected to review the draft Final Report as well as the questions for input by Friday, 19 July at the latest. By that date, you are expected to:

• Have identified any issues that require further CCWG consideration or discussion that were not already been flagged in the questions document; • Have reviewed the issues and questions identified in the questions document that were not considered during Wednesday’s meeting and flag which ones of these do need further consideration and/or provide responses to these questions that the CCWG should consider further; • Have provided any edits to the draft Final Report (minor edits like grammar corrections can be sent directly to staff, any substantive edits should be shared with the list).

As a reminder, the next new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting will be scheduled for 31 July at 14.00 UTC.

Thanks,

Marika

Marika Konings Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: marika.konings@icann.org

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I do not agree that we had reached a decision to recommend only one mechanism. There were several who preferred two, and if you recall, community input led to C being re-reviewed. Marilyn Cade ________________________________ From: Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Erika Mann <erika@erikamann.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 1:17 PM To: elliot noss <enoss@tucows.com> Cc: ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] REMINDER: Due 19 July - review updated draft Final Report and outstanding questions Alan and I are working on a proposal (bringing the various comments we received and points raised in various discussions together), We discussed the topic during our meeting in Marrakech intensively. Erika Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 16, 2019, at 5:25 PM, elliot noss <enoss@tucows.com> wrote:

I don’t want to fork the thread but my point is that I believe we have done so (twice) and it is A with community decision-making.

EN

...

On Jul 16, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Erika Mann <erika@erikamann.com> wrote:

Dear Elliot -

I understand your point but, please keep in mind, we’re at the end of the process.

We have to make up our mind about: A) do want to recommend a single mechanism or, B) do we want to recommend a hierarchy of mechanisms and let others then take the final decision.

I rather prefer that we can make a single recommendation instead of three ... but, well, let’s discuss it (again).

Thanks, Erika

Sent from my iPhone

...

On Jul 16, 2019, at 2:59 PM, Elliot Noss <enoss@tucows.com> wrote:

Thank you for calling that out. Both times through the document I was jumping around.

The point about preferring simply that to a relationship with an external body, which I believe was clear consensus, does remain.

EN

...

On Jul 16, 2019, at 8:14 AM, Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> wrote:

Hi Elliot,

Thanks for your message and your review. The following text is included on page 21 in response to charter question 3:

“Regardless of which mechanism is chosen, an independent evaluation panel would be established and responsible for the review and evaluation of applications. Neither the Board nor staff will be taking decisions on individual applications but will instead focus its consideration of the slate on whether the rules of the process were followed by the independent panel. However, due care will need to be given during the implementation phase that safeguards are in place to ensure the independence of the members of the independent evaluation panel.”

Erika and Alan are working on some additional proposed text in that same section to provide additional detail on the role of the community. There is currently a placeholder on page 21 for that text. If you would like to contribute to that work, I’m sure they would welcome your input, noting that there will be an opportunity for the full CCWG to “fine tune” that text once they have circulated it.

I hope this is helpful.

Kind regards, Emily

From: Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Elliot Noss <enoss@tucows.com> Date: Tuesday, 16 July 2019 at 13:49 To: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] REMINDER: Due 19 July - review updated draft Final Report and outstanding questions

Dear All,

I feel like I have lost the plot. Further, I feel like I am making the same points over repeatedly.

I believe that we have repeatedly discussed and agreed through the process that the preferred approach was:

* have the review and decisions on awards made by members of the community sitting in a group (how this is selected is tbd).

* not have staff perform this function.

This will be, to my recollection, the third time I have raised this as at odds with a written report. Every time I raise this issue in a meeting there is broad agreement and no one on the other side. If feels to me like the report reads:

* staff will perform this function with an external organization as a partner.

Did something dramatic happen in Marrakech that overturned nearly two years of discussions? Again, I feel lost. Please help.

EN

On Jul 9, 2019, at 9:22 AM, Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> wrote:

Dear All,

As a reminder, the deadline to review the draft Final Report and questions for input is Friday, 19 July. Please find the documents attached and additional details below.

Please also find attached high-level notes from our face-to-face meeting at ICANN65, which may assist in your review. The transcript of the meeting is available here:https://65.schedule.icann.org/meetings/1058268 [65.schedule.icann.org]

Kind regards, Emily

From: Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org> Date: Friday, 28 June 2019 at 17:20 To: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> Subject: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated draft Final Report and outstanding questions

Dear All,

Following the new gTLD Auction Proceeds meeting that took place on Wednesday 26 June, please find attached for your review the latest version of the draft Final Report. Also attached you will find the questions for CCWG input which have been updated to reflect the items that were discussed and/or resolved during Wednesday’s meeting.

As a reminder, you are expected to review the draft Final Report as well as the questions for input by Friday, 19 July at the latest. By that date, you are expected to:

• Have identified any issues that require further CCWG consideration or discussion that were not already been flagged in the questions document; • Have reviewed the issues and questions identified in the questions document that were not considered during Wednesday’s meeting and flag which ones of these do need further consideration and/or provide responses to these questions that the CCWG should consider further; • Have provided any edits to the draft Final Report (minor edits like grammar corrections can be sent directly to staff, any substantive edits should be shared with the list).

As a reminder, the next new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting will be scheduled for 31 July at 14.00 UTC.

Thanks,

Marika

Marika Konings Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: marika.konings@icann.org

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Understanding Marilyn point but need to agree with Erika here Vanda Scartezini Sent from my iPhone Sorry for typos On 16 Jul 2019, at 15:56, Erika Mann <erika@erikamann.com<mailto:erika@erikamann.com>> wrote: Two, yes, indeed Marilyn, but not three. I said, I would like us to narrow it down to one. If we can’t, then, well we have to put two forward ... but to put three forward, I believe this will create immense vagueness and uncertainties. Erika Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2019, at 8:32 PM, Marilyn Cade <marilynscade@hotmail.com<mailto:marilynscade@hotmail.com>> wrote: I do not agree that we had reached a decision to recommend only one mechanism. There were several who preferred two, and if you recall, community input led to C being re-reviewed. Marilyn Cade ________________________________ From: Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Erika Mann <erika@erikamann.com<mailto:erika@erikamann.com>> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 1:17 PM To: elliot noss <enoss@tucows.com<mailto:enoss@tucows.com>> Cc: ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] REMINDER: Due 19 July - review updated draft Final Report and outstanding questions Alan and I are working on a proposal (bringing the various comments we received and points raised in various discussions together), We discussed the topic during our meeting in Marrakech intensively. Erika Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 16, 2019, at 5:25 PM, elliot noss <enoss@tucows.com<mailto:enoss@tucows.com>> wrote:

I don’t want to fork the thread but my point is that I believe we have done so (twice) and it is A with community decision-making.

EN

...

On Jul 16, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Erika Mann <erika@erikamann.com<mailto:erika@erikamann.com>> wrote:

Dear Elliot -

I understand your point but, please keep in mind, we’re at the end of the process.

We have to make up our mind about: A) do want to recommend a single mechanism or, B) do we want to recommend a hierarchy of mechanisms and let others then take the final decision.

I rather prefer that we can make a single recommendation instead of three ... but, well, let’s discuss it (again).

Thanks, Erika

Sent from my iPhone

...

On Jul 16, 2019, at 2:59 PM, Elliot Noss <enoss@tucows.com<mailto:enoss@tucows.com>> wrote:

Thank you for calling that out. Both times through the document I was jumping around.

The point about preferring simply that to a relationship with an external body, which I believe was clear consensus, does remain.

EN

...

On Jul 16, 2019, at 8:14 AM, Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org>> wrote:

Hi Elliot,

Thanks for your message and your review. The following text is included on page 21 in response to charter question 3:

“Regardless of which mechanism is chosen, an independent evaluation panel would be established and responsible for the review and evaluation of applications. Neither the Board nor staff will be taking decisions on individual applications but will instead focus its consideration of the slate on whether the rules of the process were followed by the independent panel. However, due care will need to be given during the implementation phase that safeguards are in place to ensure the independence of the members of the independent evaluation panel.”

Erika and Alan are working on some additional proposed text in that same section to provide additional detail on the role of the community. There is currently a placeholder on page 21 for that text. If you would like to contribute to that work, I’m sure they would welcome your input, noting that there will be an opportunity for the full CCWG to “fine tune” that text once they have circulated it.

I hope this is helpful.

Kind regards, Emily

From: Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Elliot Noss <enoss@tucows.com<mailto:enoss@tucows.com>> Date: Tuesday, 16 July 2019 at 13:49 To: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] REMINDER: Due 19 July - review updated draft Final Report and outstanding questions

Dear All,

I feel like I have lost the plot. Further, I feel like I am making the same points over repeatedly.

I believe that we have repeatedly discussed and agreed through the process that the preferred approach was:

* have the review and decisions on awards made by members of the community sitting in a group (how this is selected is tbd).

* not have staff perform this function.

This will be, to my recollection, the third time I have raised this as at odds with a written report. Every time I raise this issue in a meeting there is broad agreement and no one on the other side. If feels to me like the report reads:

* staff will perform this function with an external organization as a partner.

Did something dramatic happen in Marrakech that overturned nearly two years of discussions? Again, I feel lost. Please help.

EN

On Jul 9, 2019, at 9:22 AM, Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org>> wrote:

Dear All,

As a reminder, the deadline to review the draft Final Report and questions for input is Friday, 19 July. Please find the documents attached and additional details below.

Please also find attached high-level notes from our face-to-face meeting at ICANN65, which may assist in your review. The transcript of the meeting is available here:https://65.schedule.icann.org/meetings/1058268 [65.schedule.icann.org<http://65.schedule.icann.org>]

Kind regards, Emily

From: Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org>> Date: Friday, 28 June 2019 at 17:20 To: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>> Subject: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated draft Final Report and outstanding questions

Dear All,

Following the new gTLD Auction Proceeds meeting that took place on Wednesday 26 June, please find attached for your review the latest version of the draft Final Report. Also attached you will find the questions for CCWG input which have been updated to reflect the items that were discussed and/or resolved during Wednesday’s meeting.

As a reminder, you are expected to review the draft Final Report as well as the questions for input by Friday, 19 July at the latest. By that date, you are expected to:

• Have identified any issues that require further CCWG consideration or discussion that were not already been flagged in the questions document; • Have reviewed the issues and questions identified in the questions document that were not considered during Wednesday’s meeting and flag which ones of these do need further consideration and/or provide responses to these questions that the CCWG should consider further; • Have provided any edits to the draft Final Report (minor edits like grammar corrections can be sent directly to staff, any substantive edits should be shared with the list).

As a reminder, the next new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting will be scheduled for 31 July at 14.00 UTC.

Thanks,

Marika

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Hi Sylvia, Thanks for your input on the draft Final Report. While there will be an opportunity to review the final set of revisions, it would be helpful to provide input as soon as possible if you see text in the report that appears “off” or requires additional work. Simple typographical errors can be sent directly to staff for correction, but please send anything more substantive to the mailing list. This will ensure that the group can discuss any potential revisions on the upcoming call. Kind regards, Emily From: Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Sylvia Cadena <sylvia@apnic.net> Date: Wednesday, 17 July 2019 at 05:20 To: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] REMINDER: Due 19 July - review updated draft Final Report and outstanding questions Apologies for the long radio silence and thank you for the work done so far on the final report. I continue to follow the discussions and documents shared on the list, but as the call have unfortunately clash consistently with the IGF MAG ones, I had no chance to join for quite a long time. I strongly support the report’s recommendations to focus on one mechanism (A), as indicated below as well as the recommendations for a community advisory board and an independent evaluation panel that will bring community input to the process. As the other mechanisms are part of the report, are analysed and discussed their pros and cons and the support they received is also shown there, I think is really important for the CCWG to recommend one, so the actual process to apply and allocate funds gets started. One thing that you may have discussed already is if the CCWG will include on the report the basis (or the basics) for the charters of those two groups (the community advisory board and the independent evaluation panel? It will be really important that they can get started as soon as possible, without re-opening the full lot of discussions about scope, CoI, etc? It will be good to consider the possible tensions between the two as well, so some guidelines about how those will operate together might be needed. I was wondering if there will be an additional chance to review the final report for consistency, once it includes all the agreements and all comments are cleared/resolved? I’ve picked up a few things that are a bit off, but I am guessing those will be corrected when the final version is ready, so I’ve rather wait to make those comments. The parts of the document were DAFs are mentioned have comments asking if it is or not necessary to include it, so I think it will be good to remove most of its mentions replacing the DAF for partner or external organization and leaving it once just a note (or a footnote) indicating that “if a DAF is considered as how an external organization and ICANN manages the funds, further research into the existing DAFs or the opportunities to establish a new one should be reviewed as the scope for the CCWG deliberations didn’t include the identification of a specific DAF that ICANN can give to”. There are other mechanisms -besides DAFs- to engage external organizations that have more experience on grants management and are sector agnostic such as Tides (which I had mentioned many times before) that support organizations such as ICANN to manage their own grants programs without the massive overhead load that setting up everything from scratch will require, but leaving control to the donor organization, after clear processes are laid out). Of course, as that is not the mechanism to be recommended, this is less important, but I think it will be good not to focus it only on DAFs but without removing them completely from the report. Hope I’ve made myself clear, happy to help review changes to how that is expressed in the report. 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From: Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Vanda Scartezini <vanda@scartezini.org> Date: Wednesday, 17 July 2019 at 5:14 am To: Erika Mann <erika@erikamann.com> Cc: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] REMINDER: Due 19 July - review updated draft Final Report and outstanding questions Understanding Marilyn point but need to agree with Erika here Vanda Scartezini Sent from my iPhone Sorry for typos On 16 Jul 2019, at 15:56, Erika Mann <erika@erikamann.com<mailto:erika@erikamann.com>> wrote: Two, yes, indeed Marilyn, but not three. I said, I would like us to narrow it down to one. If we can’t, then, well we have to put two forward ... but to put three forward, I believe this will create immense vagueness and uncertainties. Erika Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2019, at 8:32 PM, Marilyn Cade <marilynscade@hotmail.com<mailto:marilynscade@hotmail.com>> wrote: I do not agree that we had reached a decision to recommend only one mechanism. There were several who preferred two, and if you recall, community input led to C being re-reviewed. Marilyn Cade ________________________________ From: Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Erika Mann <erika@erikamann.com<mailto:erika@erikamann.com>> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 1:17 PM To: elliot noss <enoss@tucows.com<mailto:enoss@tucows.com>> Cc: ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] REMINDER: Due 19 July - review updated draft Final Report and outstanding questions Alan and I are working on a proposal (bringing the various comments we received and points raised in various discussions together), We discussed the topic during our meeting in Marrakech intensively. Erika Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 16, 2019, at 5:25 PM, elliot noss <enoss@tucows.com<mailto:enoss@tucows.com>> wrote:

I don’t want to fork the thread but my point is that I believe we have done so (twice) and it is A with community decision-making.

EN

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On Jul 16, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Erika Mann <erika@erikamann.com<mailto:erika@erikamann.com>> wrote:

Dear Elliot -

I understand your point but, please keep in mind, we’re at the end of the process.

We have to make up our mind about: A) do want to recommend a single mechanism or, B) do we want to recommend a hierarchy of mechanisms and let others then take the final decision.

I rather prefer that we can make a single recommendation instead of three ... but, well, let’s discuss it (again).

Thanks, Erika

Sent from my iPhone

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On Jul 16, 2019, at 2:59 PM, Elliot Noss <enoss@tucows.com<mailto:enoss@tucows.com>> wrote:

Thank you for calling that out. Both times through the document I was jumping around.

The point about preferring simply that to a relationship with an external body, which I believe was clear consensus, does remain.

EN

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On Jul 16, 2019, at 8:14 AM, Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org>> wrote:

Hi Elliot,

Thanks for your message and your review. The following text is included on page 21 in response to charter question 3:

“Regardless of which mechanism is chosen, an independent evaluation panel would be established and responsible for the review and evaluation of applications. Neither the Board nor staff will be taking decisions on individual applications but will instead focus its consideration of the slate on whether the rules of the process were followed by the independent panel. However, due care will need to be given during the implementation phase that safeguards are in place to ensure the independence of the members of the independent evaluation panel.”

Erika and Alan are working on some additional proposed text in that same section to provide additional detail on the role of the community. There is currently a placeholder on page 21 for that text. If you would like to contribute to that work, I’m sure they would welcome your input, noting that there will be an opportunity for the full CCWG to “fine tune” that text once they have circulated it.

I hope this is helpful.

Kind regards, Emily

From: Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Elliot Noss <enoss@tucows.com<mailto:enoss@tucows.com>> Date: Tuesday, 16 July 2019 at 13:49 To: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] REMINDER: Due 19 July - review updated draft Final Report and outstanding questions

Dear All,

I feel like I have lost the plot. Further, I feel like I am making the same points over repeatedly.

I believe that we have repeatedly discussed and agreed through the process that the preferred approach was:

* have the review and decisions on awards made by members of the community sitting in a group (how this is selected is tbd).

* not have staff perform this function.

This will be, to my recollection, the third time I have raised this as at odds with a written report. Every time I raise this issue in a meeting there is broad agreement and no one on the other side. If feels to me like the report reads:

* staff will perform this function with an external organization as a partner.

Did something dramatic happen in Marrakech that overturned nearly two years of discussions? Again, I feel lost. Please help.

EN

On Jul 9, 2019, at 9:22 AM, Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org>> wrote:

Dear All,

As a reminder, the deadline to review the draft Final Report and questions for input is Friday, 19 July. Please find the documents attached and additional details below.

Please also find attached high-level notes from our face-to-face meeting at ICANN65, which may assist in your review. The transcript of the meeting is available here:https://65.schedule.icann.org/meetings/1058268 [65.schedule.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__65.schedule.icann.org_m...> [65.schedule.icann.org [65.schedule.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__65.schedule.icann.org&d=...>]

Kind regards, Emily

From: Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org>> Date: Friday, 28 June 2019 at 17:20 To: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>> Subject: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated draft Final Report and outstanding questions

Dear All,

Following the new gTLD Auction Proceeds meeting that took place on Wednesday 26 June, please find attached for your review the latest version of the draft Final Report. Also attached you will find the questions for CCWG input which have been updated to reflect the items that were discussed and/or resolved during Wednesday’s meeting.

As a reminder, you are expected to review the draft Final Report as well as the questions for input by Friday, 19 July at the latest. By that date, you are expected to:

• Have identified any issues that require further CCWG consideration or discussion that were not already been flagged in the questions document; • Have reviewed the issues and questions identified in the questions document that were not considered during Wednesday’s meeting and flag which ones of these do need further consideration and/or provide responses to these questions that the CCWG should consider further; • Have provided any edits to the draft Final Report (minor edits like grammar corrections can be sent directly to staff, any substantive edits should be shared with the list).

As a reminder, the next new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting will be scheduled for 31 July at 14.00 UTC.

Thanks,

Marika

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Hi Thato, Thanks for your message and your review of the report. Would it be possible to propose an edit to the text in redline for the CCWG to discuss? This will help to ensure that members can fully consider the point you have raised during the discussion on 31 July. Thanks very much. Kind regards, Emily From: Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe@gmail.com> Date: Tuesday, 16 July 2019 at 16:05 To: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> Cc: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> Subject: [Ext] Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] REMINDER: Due 19 July - review updated draft Final Report and outstanding questions Hi Emily, Thanks for the draft final report updated - 26 June, my question relates to: Question 10, excerpt 4: if the use of AP funds will take into consideration redress of diverse, inclusive and deepened engagement lagging from developing and underrepresented communities, then does this statement take into consideration the nature and extent of these unique challenges faced, as some relate to infrastructure availability, access, and basic digital skills (common challenge in Africa affecting active participation from most members) which is commonly seen as being outside ICANN's remit but is truly supportive of the broader mission. Access and all these other challenges might not be an issue for business and government but academia and other non-commercial users like end-users might benefit from projects meeting their priority needs, before meaningful participation in the PDP and in servicing the unique identifier system or to smoothen their participation, thanks. Thato Mfikwe. "" On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 3:22 PM Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org>> wrote: Dear All, As a reminder, the deadline to review the draft Final Report and questions for input is Friday, 19 July. Please find the documents attached and additional details below. Please also find attached high-level notes from our face-to-face meeting at ICANN65, which may assist in your review. The transcript of the meeting is available here: https://65.schedule.icann.org/meetings/1058268 [65.schedule.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__65.schedule.icann.org_m...> Kind regards, Emily From: Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org>> Date: Friday, 28 June 2019 at 17:20 To: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>> Subject: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated draft Final Report and outstanding questions Dear All, Following the new gTLD Auction Proceeds meeting that took place on Wednesday 26 June, please find attached for your review the latest version of the draft Final Report. Also attached you will find the questions for CCWG input which have been updated to reflect the items that were discussed and/or resolved during Wednesday’s meeting. As a reminder, you are expected to review the draft Final Report as well as the questions for input by Friday, 19 July at the latest. By that date, you are expected to: * Have identified any issues that require further CCWG consideration or discussion that were not already been flagged in the questions document; * Have reviewed the issues and questions identified in the questions document that were not considered during Wednesday’s meeting and flag which ones of these do need further consideration and/or provide responses to these questions that the CCWG should consider further; * Have provided any edits to the draft Final Report (minor edits like grammar corrections can be sent directly to staff, any substantive edits should be shared with the list). As a reminder, the next new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting will be scheduled for 31 July at 14.00 UTC. 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