Avri, Understood and I did not intend to indicate that, expressed as such, it is anything other than bare fact. Thanks, Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: Avri Doria [mailto:avri@acm.org] Sent: 16 May 2014 14:00 To: jrobinson@afilias.info; 'Volker Greimann'; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] Re: Letter from the NGPC Chair Hi 'motion passed by majority' is 'a bare fact' Please do not indicate that this is requesting a spin. thank you avri On 16-May-14 08:55, Jonathan Robinson wrote:
Thanks Avri & Volker,
Good points and Ill work with you to remedy in this case if possible and ensure that it is dealt with in future.
I was sensitive to the point, but when expressing it in words in a draft of the letter, it felt to me as if I was putting a spin on it so I backed off and reported the bare facts.
Note that, with this issue in mind, was the reason I referred the reader to the fact that a full discussion had taken place and that a record of that was available.
Full records of the discussions and the detail of the issues raised therein are available to the NGPC, or other interested parties, through mail archives, meeting recordings and transcripts.
Not quite as clear as you may have liked I do understand but I was aware of the subtleties and sensitivities here and attempted to reflect them.
Jonathan
*From:*Volker Greimann [mailto:vgreimann@key-Systems.net] *Sent:* 16 May 2014 12:56 *To:* Avri Doria; council@gnso.icann.org *Subject:* Re: [council] Re: Letter from the NGPC Chair
Agreed. We should make it a point to clearly deliniate the votes in each communication to the board in the future, i.e. not only include the complete voting record, but also who voted how.
In some cases, we may also want to allow the dissenting groups to include a dissenting opinion with the submission of the motion.
Volker
Am 16.05.2014 13:44, schrieb Avri Doria:
Hi,
BTW I m glad Alan brought this up. At the time I was displeased that the letter did not give the vote count, but was distracted and did not say anything at the time.
It allows the reader to assume that it was passed by a large margin, or even super majority as most things sent by the council, as opposed to having the barest of majorities.
I think the letter should have given the full results.
It is my fault as well, as I should have made a statement when I voted against this. A mistake I will try to avoid in the future.
I still this this is a sad day for the GNSO.
avri
On 16-May-14 05:02, Jonathan Robinson wrote:
Thanks Glen and well-spotted Alan.
Correct, the body of the letter contains the correct resolution but the link
is to the (original) motion.
I thought the motion would be changed / updated to that which was voted on.
I'll talk with Glen and we'll get it fixed by one route or another.
Jonathan
-----Original Message-----
From: Glen de Saint Géry [mailto:Glen@icann.org]
Sent: 16 May 2014 09:33
To: Alan Greenberg; jrobinson@afilias.info <mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info>; council@gnso.icann.org <mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>
Cc: Glen de Saint Géry
Subject: RE: [council] Re: Letter from the NGPC Chair
Alan and Jonathan,
If you like, I will ask Web admin to fix the link, if they can, by changing
it from the motions page to the resolutions page?
http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/resolutions#201405
Thanks,
Glen
-----Message d'origine-----
De : owner-council@gnso.icann.org <mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org> [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] De
la part de Alan Greenberg Envoyé : vendredi 16 mai 2014 06:31 À :
jrobinson@afilias.info <mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info>; council@gnso.icann.org <mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> Objet : Re: [council] Re:
Letter from the NGPC Chair
Jonathan, the letter was published by ICANN today, and I noticed a small
error. The letter includes a link described as "The full text of the motion
passed is available here". The link, however, points to the Motions page on
the Wiki which is the original motion going into the meeting and not the
final version.
The version appended to the text of the letter is the correct one, so the
impact of the error is likely to be small.
Alan
At 09/05/2014 05:29 AM, Jonathan Robinson wrote:
All,
FYI. Please see attached for letter sent to the NGPC today.
Jonathan
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