NomCom Rebalancing response
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QF_o1d5o3cqdJi1c_2YyWcsCepWpKGx-/edit?pl... Dear Council Colleagues, We have prepared a response to the Board’s questions about the NomCom rebalancing. While we discussed this in DC (albeit briefly), we didn’t sense the need for any specific response from the Council other than to maybe say that we would welcome the opportunity of a seat at the table for an NPOC representative (the only SG/C not currently represented). As it the tradition, the GNSO Council will limit its comments to what is directly a Council concern, and will let its different SG&Cs comment in their own right. With this in mind, can I ask you to review the Google doc referenced above, and indicate by Friday 30 June any concerns you may have with this letter going out? The response deadline to the Board in Friday. Please also ensure your SG/Cs formulate their own response by then if not already done. Kindly, Sebastien Ducos GoDaddy Registry | Senior Client Services Manager [signature_2200117184] +33612284445 France & Australia sebastien@registry.godaddy<mailto:sebastien@registry.godaddy>
Looks good Sebastien. Thank you! Anne Anne Aikman-Scalese GNSO Councilor NomCom Non-Voting 2022-2024 anneicanngnso@gmail.com On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 1:28 PM Sebastien--- via council < council@gnso.icann.org> wrote:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QF_o1d5o3cqdJi1c_2YyWcsCepWpKGx-/edit?pl...
Dear Council Colleagues,
We have prepared a response to the Board’s questions about the NomCom rebalancing. While we discussed this in DC (albeit briefly), we didn’t sense the need for any specific response from the Council other than to maybe say that we would welcome the opportunity of a seat at the table for an NPOC representative (the only SG/C not currently represented).
As it the tradition, the GNSO Council will limit its comments to what is directly a Council concern, and will let its different SG&Cs comment in their own right.
With this in mind, can I ask you to review the Google doc referenced above, and indicate by Friday 30 June any concerns you may have with this letter going out? The response deadline to the Board in Friday. Please also ensure your SG/Cs formulate their own response by then if not already done.
Kindly,
*Sebastien Ducos*
GoDaddy Registry | Senior Client Services Manager
[image: signature_2200117184]
+33612284445
France & Australia
sebastien@registry.godaddy
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Hi Sebastien Thanks for this, and thanks to those who worked on the draft. I have proposed one addition to section 4 : "For avoidance of doubt, we do not believe that this should be effected by removing any seats from other GNSO groups." I would trust that my Council colleagues would not disagree with this. thanks Susan Payne Head of Legal Policy Com Laude T +44 (0) 20 7421 8250 Ext 255 [image]<https://comlaude.com/> We are pleased to launch our new YouTube channel<https://t-uk.xink.io/Tracking/Index/bhkAAGVfAADw_RQA0> From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> On Behalf Of Sebastien--- via council Sent: Monday, June 26, 2023 9:28 PM To: COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG; GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org>; gnso-secs@icann.org Subject: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QF_o1d5o3cqdJi1c_2YyWcsCepWpKGx-/edit?pl... Dear Council Colleagues, We have prepared a response to the Board's questions about the NomCom rebalancing. While we discussed this in DC (albeit briefly), we didn't sense the need for any specific response from the Council other than to maybe say that we would welcome the opportunity of a seat at the table for an NPOC representative (the only SG/C not currently represented). As it the tradition, the GNSO Council will limit its comments to what is directly a Council concern, and will let its different SG&Cs comment in their own right. With this in mind, can I ask you to review the Google doc referenced above, and indicate by Friday 30 June any concerns you may have with this letter going out? The response deadline to the Board in Friday. Please also ensure your SG/Cs formulate their own response by then if not already done. Kindly, Sebastien Ducos GoDaddy Registry | Senior Client Services Manager [signature_2200117184] +33612284445 France & Australia sebastien@registry.godaddy<mailto:sebastien@registry.godaddy> ________________________________ The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential to the intended recipient. They may not be disclosed, used by or copied in any way by anyone other than the intended recipient. If you have received this message in error, please return it to the sender (deleting the body of the email and attachments in your reply) and immediately and permanently delete it. Please note that Com Laude Group Limited (the "Com Laude Group") does not accept any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan or otherwise check this email and any attachments. The Com Laude Group does not accept liability for statements which are clearly the sender's own and not made on behalf of the group or one of its member entities. The Com Laude Group is a limited company registered in England and Wales with company number 10689074 and registered office at 28-30 Little Russell Street, London, WC1A 2HN England. The Com Laude Group includes Nom-IQ Limited t/a Com Laude, a company registered in England and Wales with company number 5047655 and registered office at 28-30 Little Russell Street, London, WC1A 2HN England; Valideus Limited, a company registered in England and Wales with company number 6181291 and registered office at 28-30 Little Russell Street, London, WC1A 2HN England; Demys Limited, a company registered in Scotland with company number SC197176 and registered office at 15 William Street, South West Lane, Edinburgh, EH3 7LL Scotland; Consonum, Inc. dba Com Laude USA and Valideus USA, a corporation incorporated in the State of Washington and principal office address at Suite 332, Securities Building, 1904 Third Ave, Seattle, WA 98101; Com Laude (Japan) Corporation, a company registered in Japan with company number 0100-01-190853 and registered office at 1-3-21 Shinkawa, Chuo-ku, Tokyo, 104-0033, Japan; Com Laude Domain ESP S.L.U., a company registered in Spain and registered office address at Calle Barcas 2, 2, Valencia, 46002, Spain. For further information see www.comlaude.com<https://comlaude.com/>
I second Susan's edit. On 30 Jun 2023 13:29, Susan Payne via council wrote:
Hi Sebastien
Thanks for this, and thanks to those who worked on the draft. I have proposed one addition to section 4 : “For avoidance of doubt, we do not believe that this should be effected by removing any seats from other GNSO groups.” I would trust that my Council colleagues would not disagree with this.
thanks
Susan Payne Head of Legal Policy Com Laude *T*+44 (0) 20 7421 8250 *Ext* 255
image <https://comlaude.com/>
/We are pleased to launch our new YouTube channel <https://t-uk.xink.io/Tracking/Index/bhkAAGVfAADw_RQA0>/.
*From:*council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Sebastien--- via council *Sent:* Monday, June 26, 2023 9:28 PM *To:* COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG; GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org>; gnso-secs@icann.org *Subject:* [council] NomCom Rebalancing response
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QF_o1d5o3cqdJi1c_2YyWcsCepWpKGx-/edit?pl...
Dear Council Colleagues,
We have prepared a response to the Board’s questions about the NomCom rebalancing. While we discussed this in DC (albeit briefly), we didn’t sense the need for any specific response from the Council other than to maybe say that we would welcome the opportunity of a seat at the table for an NPOC representative (the only SG/C not currently represented).
As it the tradition, the GNSO Council will limit its comments to what is directly a Council concern, and will let its different SG&Cs comment in their own right.
With this in mind, can I ask you to review the Google doc referenced above, and indicate by Friday 30 June any concerns you may have with this letter going out? The response deadline to the Board in Friday. Please also ensure your SG/Cs formulate their own response by then if not already done.
Kindly,
*Sebastien Ducos*
GoDaddy Registry | Senior Client Services Manager
signature_2200117184
+33612284445
France & Australia
sebastien@registry.godaddy <mailto:sebastien@registry.godaddy>
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Dear Susan, all I would like to politely disagree with the proposed change. I think section 4 as originally written answers the question of 'how' enough from a council perspective. Warmly, Tomslin On Sat, 1 July 2023, 02:30 Susan Payne via council, <council@gnso.icann.org> wrote:
Hi Sebastien
Thanks for this, and thanks to those who worked on the draft. I have proposed one addition to section 4 : “For avoidance of doubt, we do not believe that this should be effected by removing any seats from other GNSO groups.” I would trust that my Council colleagues would not disagree with this.
thanks
Susan Payne Head of Legal Policy Com Laude *T* +44 (0) 20 7421 8250 *Ext* 255
[image: image] <https://comlaude.com/>
*We are pleased to launch our new YouTube channel <https://t-uk.xink.io/Tracking/Index/bhkAAGVfAADw_RQA0>*[image: .]
*From:* council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Sebastien--- via council *Sent:* Monday, June 26, 2023 9:28 PM *To:* COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG; GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org>; gnso-secs@icann.org *Subject:* [council] NomCom Rebalancing response
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QF_o1d5o3cqdJi1c_2YyWcsCepWpKGx-/edit?pl...
Dear Council Colleagues,
We have prepared a response to the Board’s questions about the NomCom rebalancing. While we discussed this in DC (albeit briefly), we didn’t sense the need for any specific response from the Council other than to maybe say that we would welcome the opportunity of a seat at the table for an NPOC representative (the only SG/C not currently represented).
As it the tradition, the GNSO Council will limit its comments to what is directly a Council concern, and will let its different SG&Cs comment in their own right.
With this in mind, can I ask you to review the Google doc referenced above, and indicate by Friday 30 June any concerns you may have with this letter going out? The response deadline to the Board in Friday. Please also ensure your SG/Cs formulate their own response by then if not already done.
Kindly,
*Sebastien Ducos*
GoDaddy Registry | Senior Client Services Manager
[image: signature_2200117184]
+33612284445
France & Australia
sebastien@registry.godaddy
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I would second Tomslin on this. Best regards @__f_f__ ____________________________________ Lt-Colonel Farell FOLLY, Ir. GNSO Councillor - ICANN (Los Angeles, USA). https://www.linkedin.com/in/farellf/?locale=en_US
On 2 Jul 2023, at 12:57, Tomslin Samme-Nlar via council <council@gnso.icann.org> wrote:
Dear Susan, all
I would like to politely disagree with the proposed change. I think section 4 as originally written answers the question of 'how' enough from a council perspective.
Warmly, Tomslin
On Sat, 1 July 2023, 02:30 Susan Payne via council, <council@gnso.icann.org <mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: Hi Sebastien
Thanks for this, and thanks to those who worked on the draft. I have proposed one addition to section 4 : “For avoidance of doubt, we do not believe that this should be effected by removing any seats from other GNSO groups.” I would trust that my Council colleagues would not disagree with this.
thanks
Susan Payne Head of Legal Policy Com Laude T +44 (0) 20 7421 8250 Ext 255
We are pleased to launch our new YouTube channel <https://t-uk.xink.io/Tracking/Index/bhkAAGVfAADw_RQA0> From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org <mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> On Behalf Of Sebastien--- via council Sent: Monday, June 26, 2023 9:28 PM To: COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG <mailto:COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG>; GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org <mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org>>; gnso-secs@icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> Subject: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QF_o1d5o3cqdJi1c_2YyWcsCepWpKGx-/edit?pl... <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QF_o1d5o3cqdJi1c_2YyWcsCepWpKGx-/edit?pli=1>
Dear Council Colleagues,
We have prepared a response to the Board’s questions about the NomCom rebalancing. While we discussed this in DC (albeit briefly), we didn’t sense the need for any specific response from the Council other than to maybe say that we would welcome the opportunity of a seat at the table for an NPOC representative (the only SG/C not currently represented).
As it the tradition, the GNSO Council will limit its comments to what is directly a Council concern, and will let its different SG&Cs comment in their own right.
With this in mind, can I ask you to review the Google doc referenced above, and indicate by Friday 30 June any concerns you may have with this letter going out? The response deadline to the Board in Friday. Please also ensure your SG/Cs formulate their own response by then if not already done.
Kindly,
Sebastien Ducos
GoDaddy Registry | Senior Client Services Manager
+33612284445
France & Australia
sebastien@registry.godaddy <mailto:sebastien@registry.godaddy>
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We could probably do with CPH or NomCom appointees input here. --- Mark W. Datysgeld Director at Governance Primer ICANN GNSO Councilor ________________________________ From: Farell FOLLY via council <council@gnso.icann.org> Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2023 19:41 To: Tomslin Samme-Nlar Cc: GNSO-Chairs; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response
I would second Tomslin on this.
Best regards
@__f_f__ ____________________________________
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GNSO Councillor - ICANN (Los Angeles, USA). https://www.linkedin.com/in/farellf/?locale=en_US
On 2 Jul 2023, at 12:57, Tomslin Samme-Nlar via council <council@gnso.icann.org> wrote:
Dear Susan, all
I would like to politely disagree with the proposed change. I think section 4 as originally written answers the question of 'how' enough from a council perspective.
Warmly, Tomslin
On Sat, 1 July 2023, 02:30 Susan Payne via council, <council@gnso.icann.org> wrote:
Hi Sebastien Thanks for this, and thanks to those who worked on the draft. I have proposed one addition to section 4 : “For avoidance of doubt, we do not believe that this should be effected by removing any seats from other GNSO groups.” I would trust that my Council colleagues would not disagree with this. thanks Susan Payne Head of Legal Policy Com Laude T +44 (0) 20 7421 8250 Ext 255
We are pleased to launch our new YouTube channel From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> On Behalf Of Sebastien--- via council Sent: Monday, June 26, 2023 9:28 PM To: COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG; GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org>; gnso-secs@icann.org Subject: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QF_o1d5o3cqdJi1c_2YyWcsCepWpKGx-/edit?pl... Dear Council Colleagues, We have prepared a response to the Board’s questions about the NomCom rebalancing. While we discussed this in DC (albeit briefly), we didn’t sense the need for any specific response from the Council other than to maybe say that we would welcome the opportunity of a seat at the table for an NPOC representative (the only SG/C not currently represented). As it the tradition, the GNSO Council will limit its comments to what is directly a Council concern, and will let its different SG&Cs comment in their own right. With this in mind, can I ask you to review the Google doc referenced above, and indicate by Friday 30 June any concerns you may have with this letter going out? The response deadline to the Board in Friday. Please also ensure your SG/Cs formulate their own response by then if not already done. Kindly,
Sebastien Ducos GoDaddy Registry | Senior Client Services Manager +33612284445 France & Australia sebastien@registry.godaddy ________________________________ The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential to the intended recipient. They may not be disclosed, used by or copied in any way by anyone other than the intended recipient. If you have received this message in error, please return it to the sender (deleting the body of the email and attachments in your reply) and immediately and permanently delete it. Please note that Com Laude Group Limited (the “Com Laude Group”) does not accept any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan or otherwise check this email and any attachments. The Com Laude Group does not accept liability for statements which are clearly the sender's own and not made on behalf of the group or one of its member entities. The Com Laude Group is a limited company registered in England and Wales with company number 10689074 and registered office at 28-30 Little Russell Street, London, WC1A 2HN England. The Com Laude Group includes Nom-IQ Limited t/a Com Laude, a company registered in England and Wales with company number 5047655 and registered office at 28-30 Little Russell Street, London, WC1A 2HN England; Valideus Limited, a company registered in England and Wales with company number 6181291 and registered office at 28-30 Little Russell Street, London, WC1A 2HN England; Demys Limited, a company registered in Scotland with company number SC197176 and registered office at 15 William Street, South West Lane, Edinburgh, EH3 7LL Scotland; Consonum, Inc. dba Com Laude USA and Valideus USA, a corporation incorporated in the State of Washington and principal office address at Suite 332, Securities Building, 1904 Third Ave, Seattle, WA 98101; Com Laude (Japan) Corporation, a company registered in Japan with company number 0100-01-190853 and registered office at 1-3-21 Shinkawa, Chuo-ku, Tokyo, 104-0033, Japan; Com Laude Domain ESP S.L.U., a company registered in Spain and registered office address at Calle Barcas 2, 2, Valencia, 46002, Spain. For further information see www.comlaude.com _______________________________________________ council mailing list council@gnso.icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/council
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Id like to also support Tomslin point on this matter. And I trust that the language that is on the document translates well NCSG's concerns regarding the *addition* of a seat in order to better represent the current configuration of GNSO at NomCom. And, in all honesty, I think this discussion is about remedying the lack of proper Non-Commercial representation at the committee, above all. Best, Bruna On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 3:19 AM Mark W. Datysgeld via council < council@gnso.icann.org> wrote:
We could probably do with CPH or NomCom appointees input here. --- Mark W. Datysgeld Director at Governance Primer ICANN GNSO Councilor ------------------------------ *From:* Farell FOLLY via council <council@gnso.icann.org> *Sent:* Sunday, July 2, 2023 19:41 *To:* Tomslin Samme-Nlar *Cc:* GNSO-Chairs; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG *Subject:* Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response
I would second Tomslin on this.
Best regards
@__f_f__ ____________________________________
Lt-Colonel Farell FOLLY, Ir.
GNSO Councillor - ICANN (Los Angeles, USA). https://www.linkedin.com/in/farellf/?locale=en_US
On 2 Jul 2023, at 12:57, Tomslin Samme-Nlar via council < council@gnso.icann.org> wrote:
Dear Susan, all
I would like to politely disagree with the proposed change. I think section 4 as originally written answers the question of 'how' enough from a council perspective.
Warmly, Tomslin
On Sat, 1 July 2023, 02:30 Susan Payne via council, < council@gnso.icann.org> wrote:
Hi Sebastien Thanks for this, and thanks to those who worked on the draft. I have proposed one addition to section 4 : “For avoidance of doubt, we do not believe that this should be effected by removing any seats from other GNSO groups.” I would trust that my Council colleagues would not disagree with this.
thanks
Susan Payne Head of Legal Policy Com Laude *T* +44 (0) 20 7421 8250 *Ext* 255
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Dear Council Colleagues,
We have prepared a response to the Board’s questions about the NomCom rebalancing. While we discussed this in DC (albeit briefly), we didn’t sense the need for any specific response from the Council other than to maybe say that we would welcome the opportunity of a seat at the table for an NPOC representative (the only SG/C not currently represented). As it the tradition, the GNSO Council will limit its comments to what is directly a Council concern, and will let its different SG&Cs comment in their own right.
With this in mind, can I ask you to review the Google doc referenced above, and indicate by Friday 30 June any concerns you may have with this letter going out? The response deadline to the Board in Friday. Please also ensure your SG/Cs formulate their own response by then if not already done.
Kindly,
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Thanks Bruna, Mark, Farell, Tomslin, and Susan, All, I think the reason for Susan’s proposed edit is coming from the current text which uses the singular article “a”, i.e. that at the end of the rebalancing each GNSO constituency would get “a” (singular) delegate to the Nom Com. 1. Do you support the view that the current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not. GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint a delegate to the NomCom. Combined with our request to add NPOC, this use of the singular article “a” could be read as the Council’s desire to remove one NomCom seat from the BC (which has 2) and give that to NPOC. If that is not our will, we need to correct the singular article “a”, perhaps along the lines of “at least one.” I think this makes more sense anyway, since why should we limit ourselves this early in the discussions when others in the community are certainly going to advocate for more seats for them while the Council, in the current draft, is advocating for simply reshuffling what we already have. If it is our will, however, to eliminate one seat for the BC and transfer that seat to the NPOC, I don’t think we should hide a ball that big – let’s just say it directly. I expect the BC reps may want to reply to this email. For clarity, I think we should not include Susan’s addition, but modify our response on 2. to read: 1. Do you support the view that the current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not. GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint at least one delegate to the NomCom. Hope this helps. Best, Paul From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> On Behalf Of Bruna Martins dos Santos via council Sent: Monday, July 3, 2023 4:08 AM To: Mark W. Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com> Cc: GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org>; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs <gnso-secs@icann.org>; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response Id like to also support Tomslin point on this matter. And I trust that the language that is on the document translates well NCSG's concerns regarding the addition of a seat in order to better represent the current configuration of GNSO at NomCom. And, in all honesty, I think this discussion is about remedying the lack of proper Non-Commercial representation at the committee, above all. Best, Bruna On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 3:19 AM Mark W. Datysgeld via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: We could probably do with CPH or NomCom appointees input here. --- Mark W. Datysgeld Director at Governance Primer ICANN GNSO Councilor ________________________________ From: Farell FOLLY via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2023 19:41 To: Tomslin Samme-Nlar Cc: GNSO-Chairs; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG<mailto:COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG> Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response I would second Tomslin on this. Best regards @__f_f__ ____________________________________ Lt-Colonel Farell FOLLY, Ir. GNSO Councillor - ICANN (Los Angeles, USA). https://www.linkedin.com/in/farellf/?locale=en_US On 2 Jul 2023, at 12:57, Tomslin Samme-Nlar via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: Dear Susan, all I would like to politely disagree with the proposed change. I think section 4 as originally written answers the question of 'how' enough from a council perspective. Warmly, Tomslin On Sat, 1 July 2023, 02:30 Susan Payne via council, <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: Hi Sebastien Thanks for this, and thanks to those who worked on the draft. I have proposed one addition to section 4 : “For avoidance of doubt, we do not believe that this should be effected by removing any seats from other GNSO groups.” I would trust that my Council colleagues would not disagree with this. thanks Susan Payne Head of Legal Policy Com Laude T +44 (0) 20 7421 8250 Ext 255 We are pleased to launch our new YouTube channel<https://comlaude.com/> From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> On Behalf Of Sebastien--- via council Sent: Monday, June 26, 2023 9:28 PM To: COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG; GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org>; gnso-secs@icann.org Subject: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response<https://comlaude.com/> <https://comlaude.com/> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QF_o1d5o3cqdJi1c_2YyWcsCepWpKGx-/edit?pli=1<https://comlaude.com/> <https://comlaude.com/> Dear Council Colleagues,<https://comlaude.com/> <https://comlaude.com/> We have prepared a response to the Board’s questions about the NomCom rebalancing. While we discussed this in DC (albeit briefly), we didn’t sense the need for any specific response from the Council other than to maybe say that we would welcome the opportunity of a seat at the table for an NPOC representative (the only SG/C not currently represented).<https://comlaude.com/> As it the tradition, the GNSO Council will limit its comments to what is directly a Council concern, and will let its different SG&Cs comment in their own right.<https://comlaude.com/> <https://comlaude.com/> With this in mind, can I ask you to review the Google doc referenced above, and indicate by Friday 30 June any concerns you may have with this letter going out? The response deadline to the Board in Friday. Please also ensure your SG/Cs formulate their own response by then if not already done.<https://comlaude.com/> <https://comlaude.com/> Kindly,<https://comlaude.com/> <https://comlaude.com/> Sebastien Ducos<https://comlaude.com/> GoDaddy Registry | Senior Client Services Manager<https://comlaude.com/> +33612284445<https://comlaude.com/> France & Australia<https://comlaude.com/> sebastien@registry.godaddy<https://comlaude.com/> <https://comlaude.com/> <https://comlaude.com/> <https://comlaude.com/> ________________________________ The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential to the intended recipient. They may not be disclosed, used by or copied in any way by anyone other than the intended recipient. If you have received this message in error, please return it to the sender (deleting the body of the email and attachments in your reply) and immediately and permanently delete it. 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The Com Laude Group includes Nom-IQ Limited t/a Com Laude, a company registered in England and Wales with company number 5047655 and registered office at 28-30 Little Russell Street, London, WC1A 2HN England; Valideus Limited, a company registered in England and Wales with company number 6181291 and registered office at 28-30 Little Russell Street, London, WC1A 2HN England; Demys Limited, a company registered in Scotland with company number SC197176 and registered office at 15 William Street, South West Lane, Edinburgh, EH3 7LL Scotland; Consonum, Inc. dba Com Laude USA and Valideus USA, a corporation incorporated in the State of Washington and principal office address at Suite 332, Securities Building, 1904 Third Ave, Seattle, WA 98101; Com Laude (Japan) Corporation, a company registered in Japan with company number 0100-01-190853 and registered office at 1-3-21 Shinkawa, Chuo-ku, Tokyo, 104-0033, Japan; Com Laude Domain ESP S.L.U., a company registered in Spain and registered office address at Calle Barcas 2, 2, Valencia, 46002, Spain. 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Support for your edit, Paul. Best, Marie From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> On Behalf Of Paul McGrady via council Sent: 03 July 2023 14:45 To: Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns@gmail.com>; Mark W. Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com> Cc: Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs <gnso-secs@icann.org>; GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org>; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response Thanks Bruna, Mark, Farell, Tomslin, and Susan, All, I think the reason for Susan’s proposed edit is coming from the current text which uses the singular article “a”, i.e. that at the end of the rebalancing each GNSO constituency would get “a” (singular) delegate to the Nom Com. 1. Do you support the view that the current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not. GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint a delegate to the NomCom. Combined with our request to add NPOC, this use of the singular article “a” could be read as the Council’s desire to remove one NomCom seat from the BC (which has 2) and give that to NPOC. If that is not our will, we need to correct the singular article “a”, perhaps along the lines of “at least one.” I think this makes more sense anyway, since why should we limit ourselves this early in the discussions when others in the community are certainly going to advocate for more seats for them while the Council, in the current draft, is advocating for simply reshuffling what we already have. If it is our will, however, to eliminate one seat for the BC and transfer that seat to the NPOC, I don’t think we should hide a ball that big – let’s just say it directly. I expect the BC reps may want to reply to this email. For clarity, I think we should not include Susan’s addition, but modify our response on 2. to read: 1. Do you support the view that the current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not. GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint at least one delegate to the NomCom. Hope this helps. Best, Paul From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> On Behalf Of Bruna Martins dos Santos via council Sent: Monday, July 3, 2023 4:08 AM To: Mark W. Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com<mailto:mark@governanceprimer.com>> Cc: GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org>>; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs <gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>>; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG<mailto:COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG> Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response Id like to also support Tomslin point on this matter. And I trust that the language that is on the document translates well NCSG's concerns regarding the addition of a seat in order to better represent the current configuration of GNSO at NomCom. And, in all honesty, I think this discussion is about remedying the lack of proper Non-Commercial representation at the committee, above all. Best, Bruna On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 3:19 AM Mark W. Datysgeld via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: We could probably do with CPH or NomCom appointees input here. --- Mark W. Datysgeld Director at Governance Primer ICANN GNSO Councilor ________________________________ From: Farell FOLLY via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2023 19:41 To: Tomslin Samme-Nlar Cc: GNSO-Chairs; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG<mailto:COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG> Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response I would second Tomslin on this. Best regards @__f_f__ ____________________________________ Lt-Colonel Farell FOLLY, Ir. GNSO Councillor - ICANN (Los Angeles, USA). https://www.linkedin.com/in/farellf/?locale=en_US On 2 Jul 2023, at 12:57, Tomslin Samme-Nlar via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: Dear Susan, all I would like to politely disagree with the proposed change. I think section 4 as originally written answers the question of 'how' enough from a council perspective. Warmly, Tomslin On Sat, 1 July 2023, 02:30 Susan Payne via council, <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: Hi Sebastien Thanks for this, and thanks to those who worked on the draft. I have proposed one addition to section 4 : “For avoidance of doubt, we do not believe that this should be effected by removing any seats from other GNSO groups.” I would trust that my Council colleagues would not disagree with this. thanks Susan Payne Head of Legal Policy Com Laude T +44 (0) 20 7421 8250 Ext 255 We are pleased to launch our new YouTube channel<https://comlaude.com/> From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> On Behalf Of Sebastien--- via council Sent: Monday, June 26, 2023 9:28 PM To: COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG; GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org>; gnso-secs@icann.org Subject: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response<https://comlaude.com/> <https://comlaude.com/> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QF_o1d5o3cqdJi1c_2YyWcsCepWpKGx-/edit?pli=1<https://comlaude.com/> <https://comlaude.com/> Dear Council Colleagues,<https://comlaude.com/> <https://comlaude.com/> We have prepared a response to the Board’s questions about the NomCom rebalancing. While we discussed this in DC (albeit briefly), we didn’t sense the need for any specific response from the Council other than to maybe say that we would welcome the opportunity of a seat at the table for an NPOC representative (the only SG/C not currently represented).<https://comlaude.com/> As it the tradition, the GNSO Council will limit its comments to what is directly a Council concern, and will let its different SG&Cs comment in their own right.<https://comlaude.com/> <https://comlaude.com/> With this in mind, can I ask you to review the Google doc referenced above, and indicate by Friday 30 June any concerns you may have with this letter going out? The response deadline to the Board in Friday. Please also ensure your SG/Cs formulate their own response by then if not already done.<https://comlaude.com/> <https://comlaude.com/> Kindly,<https://comlaude.com/> <https://comlaude.com/> Sebastien Ducos<https://comlaude.com/> GoDaddy Registry | Senior Client Services Manager<https://comlaude.com/> +33612284445<https://comlaude.com/> France & Australia<https://comlaude.com/> sebastien@registry.godaddy<https://comlaude.com/> <https://comlaude.com/> <https://comlaude.com/> <https://comlaude.com/> ________________________________ The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential to the intended recipient. They may not be disclosed, used by or copied in any way by anyone other than the intended recipient. If you have received this message in error, please return it to the sender (deleting the body of the email and attachments in your reply) and immediately and permanently delete it. Please note that Com Laude Group Limited (the “Com Laude Group”) does not accept any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan or otherwise check this email and any attachments. The Com Laude Group does not accept liability for statements which are clearly the sender's own and not made on behalf of the group or one of its member entities. The Com Laude Group is a limited company registered in England and Wales with company number 10689074 and registered office at 28-30 Little Russell Street, London, WC1A 2HN England. The Com Laude Group includes Nom-IQ Limited t/a Com Laude, a company registered in England and Wales with company number 5047655 and registered office at 28-30 Little Russell Street, London, WC1A 2HN England; Valideus Limited, a company registered in England and Wales with company number 6181291 and registered office at 28-30 Little Russell Street, London, WC1A 2HN England; Demys Limited, a company registered in Scotland with company number SC197176 and registered office at 15 William Street, South West Lane, Edinburgh, EH3 7LL Scotland; Consonum, Inc. dba Com Laude USA and Valideus USA, a corporation incorporated in the State of Washington and principal office address at Suite 332, Securities Building, 1904 Third Ave, Seattle, WA 98101; Com Laude (Japan) Corporation, a company registered in Japan with company number 0100-01-190853 and registered office at 1-3-21 Shinkawa, Chuo-ku, Tokyo, 104-0033, Japan; Com Laude Domain ESP S.L.U., a company registered in Spain and registered office address at Calle Barcas 2, 2, Valencia, 46002, Spain. 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I support Paul’s edit as well. Thanks, Greg From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> On Behalf Of Osvaldo Novoa via council Sent: Monday, July 3, 2023 5:50 AM To: Marie Pattullo - AIM <marie.pattullo@aim.be> Cc: council@gnso.icann.org; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs <gnso-secs@icann.org>; GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL][council] NomCom Rebalancing response CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and know the content is safe. +1 Saludos, Osvaldo Novoa On 3 Jul 2023, at 09:47, Marie Pattullo - AIM via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: Support for your edit, Paul. Best, Marie From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> On Behalf Of Paul McGrady via council Sent: 03 July 2023 14:45 To: Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns@gmail.com<mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com>>; Mark W. Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com<mailto:mark@governanceprimer.com>> Cc: Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs <gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>>; GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org>>; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG<mailto:COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG> Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response Thanks Bruna, Mark, Farell, Tomslin, and Susan, All, I think the reason for Susan’s proposed edit is coming from the current text which uses the singular article “a”, i.e. that at the end of the rebalancing each GNSO constituency would get “a” (singular) delegate to the Nom Com. 1. Do you support the view that the current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not. GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint a delegate to the NomCom. Combined with our request to add NPOC, this use of the singular article “a” could be read as the Council’s desire to remove one NomCom seat from the BC (which has 2) and give that to NPOC. If that is not our will, we need to correct the singular article “a”, perhaps along the lines of “at least one.” I think this makes more sense anyway, since why should we limit ourselves this early in the discussions when others in the community are certainly going to advocate for more seats for them while the Council, in the current draft, is advocating for simply reshuffling what we already have. If it is our will, however, to eliminate one seat for the BC and transfer that seat to the NPOC, I don’t think we should hide a ball that big – let’s just say it directly. I expect the BC reps may want to reply to this email. For clarity, I think we should not include Susan’s addition, but modify our response on 2. to read: 1. Do you support the view that the current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not. GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint at least one delegate to the NomCom. Hope this helps. Best, Paul From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> On Behalf Of Bruna Martins dos Santos via council Sent: Monday, July 3, 2023 4:08 AM To: Mark W. Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com<mailto:mark@governanceprimer.com>> Cc: GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org>>; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs <gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>>; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG<mailto:COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG> Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response Id like to also support Tomslin point on this matter. And I trust that the language that is on the document translates well NCSG's concerns regarding the addition of a seat in order to better represent the current configuration of GNSO at NomCom. And, in all honesty, I think this discussion is about remedying the lack of proper Non-Commercial representation at the committee, above all. Best, Bruna On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 3:19 AM Mark W. Datysgeld via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: We could probably do with CPH or NomCom appointees input here. --- Mark W. Datysgeld Director at Governance Primer ICANN GNSO Councilor ________________________________ From: Farell FOLLY via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2023 19:41 To: Tomslin Samme-Nlar Cc: GNSO-Chairs; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG<mailto:COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG> Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response I would second Tomslin on this. Best regards @__f_f__ ____________________________________ Lt-Colonel Farell FOLLY, Ir. GNSO Councillor - ICANN (Los Angeles, USA). https://www.linkedin.com/in/farellf/?locale=en_US On 2 Jul 2023, at 12:57, Tomslin Samme-Nlar via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: Dear Susan, all I would like to politely disagree with the proposed change. I think section 4 as originally written answers the question of 'how' enough from a council perspective. Warmly, Tomslin On Sat, 1 July 2023, 02:30 Susan Payne via council, <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: Hi Sebastien Thanks for this, and thanks to those who worked on the draft. 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I agree with Paul's edit. --- Mark W. Datysgeld Director at Governance Primer ICANN GNSO Councilor ________________________________ From: Paul McGrady <paul@elstermcgrady.com> Sent: Monday, July 3, 2023 09:44 To: Bruna Martins dos Santos; Mark W. Datysgeld Cc: GNSO-Chairs; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG Subject: RE: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response
Thanks Bruna, Mark, Farell, Tomslin, and Susan, All, I think the reason for Susan’s proposed edit is coming from the current text which uses the singular article “a”, i.e. that at the end of the rebalancing each GNSO constituency would get “a” (singular) delegate to the Nom Com. Do you support the view that the current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not. GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint a delegate to the NomCom. Combined with our request to add NPOC, this use of the singular article “a” could be read as the Council’s desire to remove one NomCom seat from the BC (which has 2) and give that to NPOC. If that is not our will, we need to correct the singular article “a”, perhaps along the lines of “at least one.” I think this makes more sense anyway, since why should we limit ourselves this early in the discussions when others in the community are certainly going to advocate for more seats for them while the Council, in the current draft, is advocating for simply reshuffling what we already have. If it is our will, however, to eliminate one seat for the BC and transfer that seat to the NPOC, I don’t think we should hide a ball that big – let’s just say it directly. I expect the BC reps may want to reply to this email. For clarity, I think we should not include Susan’s addition, but modify our response on 2. to read: Do you support the view that the current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not. GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint at least one delegate to the NomCom. Hope this helps. Best, Paul From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> On Behalf Of Bruna Martins dos Santos via council Sent: Monday, July 3, 2023 4:08 AM To: Mark W. Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com> Cc: GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org>; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs <gnso-secs@icann.org>; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response Id like to also support Tomslin point on this matter. And I trust that the language that is on the document translates well NCSG's concerns regarding the addition of a seat in order to better represent the current configuration of GNSO at NomCom. And, in all honesty, I think this discussion is about remedying the lack of proper Non-Commercial representation at the committee, above all. Best, Bruna On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 3:19 AM Mark W. Datysgeld via council <council@gnso.icann.org> wrote:
We could probably do with CPH or NomCom appointees input here. --- Mark W. Datysgeld Director at Governance Primer ICANN GNSO Councilor ________________________________ From: Farell FOLLY via council <council@gnso.icann.org> Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2023 19:41 To: Tomslin Samme-Nlar Cc: GNSO-Chairs; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response
I would second Tomslin on this. Best regards @__f_f__ ____________________________________ Lt-Colonel Farell FOLLY, Ir. GNSO Councillor - ICANN (Los Angeles, USA). https://www.linkedin.com/in/farellf/?locale=en_US
On 2 Jul 2023, at 12:57, Tomslin Samme-Nlar via council <council@gnso.icann.org> wrote:
Dear Susan, all I would like to politely disagree with the proposed change. I think section 4 as originally written answers the question of 'how' enough from a council perspective. Warmly, Tomslin On Sat, 1 July 2023, 02:30 Susan Payne via council, <council@gnso.icann.org> wrote:
Hi Sebastien Thanks for this, and thanks to those who worked on the draft. I have proposed one addition to section 4 : “For avoidance of doubt, we do not believe that this should be effected by removing any seats from other GNSO groups.” I would trust that my Council colleagues would not disagree with this. thanks Susan Payne Head of Legal Policy Com Laude T +44 (0) 20 7421 8250 Ext 255
We are pleased to launch our new YouTube channel From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> On Behalf Of Sebastien--- via council Sent: Monday, June 26, 2023 9:28 PM To: COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG; GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org>; gnso-secs@icann.org Subject: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QF_o1d5o3cqdJi1c_2YyWcsCepWpKGx-/edit?pl... Dear Council Colleagues, We have prepared a response to the Board’s questions about the NomCom rebalancing. While we discussed this in DC (albeit briefly), we didn’t sense the need for any specific response from the Council other than to maybe say that we would welcome the opportunity of a seat at the table for an NPOC representative (the only SG/C not currently represented). As it the tradition, the GNSO Council will limit its comments to what is directly a Council concern, and will let its different SG&Cs comment in their own right. With this in mind, can I ask you to review the Google doc referenced above, and indicate by Friday 30 June any concerns you may have with this letter going out? The response deadline to the Board in Friday. Please also ensure your SG/Cs formulate their own response by then if not already done. Kindly, Sebastien Ducos GoDaddy Registry | Senior Client Services Manager +33612284445 France & Australia sebastien@registry.godaddy ________________________________ The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential to the intended recipient. They may not be disclosed, used by or copied in any way by anyone other than the intended recipient. If you have received this message in error, please return it to the sender (deleting the body of the email and attachments in your reply) and immediately and permanently delete it. Please note that Com Laude Group Limited (the “Com Laude Group”) does not accept any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan or otherwise check this email and any attachments. The Com Laude Group does not accept liability for statements which are clearly the sender's own and not made on behalf of the group or one of its member entities. The Com Laude Group is a limited company registered in England and Wales with company number 10689074 and registered office at 28-30 Little Russell Street, London, WC1A 2HN England. The Com Laude Group includes Nom-IQ Limited t/a Com Laude, a company registered in England and Wales with company number 5047655 and registered office at 28-30 Little Russell Street, London, WC1A 2HN England; Valideus Limited, a company registered in England and Wales with company number 6181291 and registered office at 28-30 Little Russell Street, London, WC1A 2HN England; Demys Limited, a company registered in Scotland with company number SC197176 and registered office at 15 William Street, South West Lane, Edinburgh, EH3 7LL Scotland; Consonum, Inc. dba Com Laude USA and Valideus USA, a corporation incorporated in the State of Washington and principal office address at Suite 332, Securities Building, 1904 Third Ave, Seattle, WA 98101; Com Laude (Japan) Corporation, a company registered in Japan with company number 0100-01-190853 and registered office at 1-3-21 Shinkawa, Chuo-ku, Tokyo, 104-0033, Japan; Com Laude Domain ESP S.L.U., a company registered in Spain and registered office address at Calle Barcas 2, 2, Valencia, 46002, Spain. For further information see www.comlaude.com _______________________________________________ council mailing list council@gnso.icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/council
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Thanks for that suggestion Paul, I’d be happy with that solution. Susan Sent from Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Mark W. Datysgeld via council <council@gnso.icann.org> Sent: Monday, July 3, 2023 7:29:47 PM To: Paul McGrady <paul@elstermcgrady.com>; Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns@gmail.com> Cc: Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs <gnso-secs@icann.org>; GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org>; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response I agree with Paul's edit. --- Mark W. Datysgeld Director at Governance Primer ICANN GNSO Councilor ________________________________ From: Paul McGrady <paul@elstermcgrady.com> Sent: Monday, July 3, 2023 09:44 To: Bruna Martins dos Santos; Mark W. Datysgeld Cc: GNSO-Chairs; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG Subject: RE: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response Thanks Bruna, Mark, Farell, Tomslin, and Susan, All, I think the reason for Susan’s proposed edit is coming from the current text which uses the singular article “a”, i.e. that at the end of the rebalancing each GNSO constituency would get “a” (singular) delegate to the Nom Com. 1. Do you support the view that the current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not. GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint a delegate to the NomCom. Combined with our request to add NPOC, this use of the singular article “a” could be read as the Council’s desire to remove one NomCom seat from the BC (which has 2) and give that to NPOC. If that is not our will, we need to correct the singular article “a”, perhaps along the lines of “at least one.” I think this makes more sense anyway, since why should we limit ourselves this early in the discussions when others in the community are certainly going to advocate for more seats for them while the Council, in the current draft, is advocating for simply reshuffling what we already have. If it is our will, however, to eliminate one seat for the BC and transfer that seat to the NPOC, I don’t think we should hide a ball that big – let’s just say it directly. I expect the BC reps may want to reply to this email. For clarity, I think we should not include Susan’s addition, but modify our response on 2. to read: 1. Do you support the view that the current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not. GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint at least one delegate to the NomCom. Hope this helps. Best, Paul From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> On Behalf Of Bruna Martins dos Santos via council Sent: Monday, July 3, 2023 4:08 AM To: Mark W. Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com> Cc: GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org>; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs <gnso-secs@icann.org>; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response Id like to also support Tomslin point on this matter. And I trust that the language that is on the document translates well NCSG's concerns regarding the addition of a seat in order to better represent the current configuration of GNSO at NomCom. And, in all honesty, I think this discussion is about remedying the lack of proper Non-Commercial representation at the committee, above all. Best, Bruna On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 3:19 AM Mark W. Datysgeld via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: We could probably do with CPH or NomCom appointees input here. --- Mark W. Datysgeld Director at Governance Primer ICANN GNSO Councilor ________________________________ From: Farell FOLLY via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2023 19:41 To: Tomslin Samme-Nlar Cc: GNSO-Chairs; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG<mailto:COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG> Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response I would second Tomslin on this. Best regards @__f_f__ ____________________________________ Lt-Colonel Farell FOLLY, Ir. GNSO Councillor - ICANN (Los Angeles, USA). https://www.linkedin.com/in/farellf/?locale=en_US On 2 Jul 2023, at 12:57, Tomslin Samme-Nlar via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: Dear Susan, all I would like to politely disagree with the proposed change. I think section 4 as originally written answers the question of 'how' enough from a council perspective. Warmly, Tomslin On Sat, 1 July 2023, 02:30 Susan Payne via council, <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: Hi Sebastien Thanks for this, and thanks to those who worked on the draft. 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Tomslin, Farell, Bruna, others, can you please indicate if you are able to support Paul’s proposed edit as we would like to confirm to our Board Support colleagues what should be submitted to the ICANN Board? Thanks, Marika From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Susan Payne via council <council@gnso.icann.org> Reply to: Susan Payne <susan.payne@comlaude.com> Date: Monday, 3 July 2023 at 21:23 To: "Mark W. Datysgeld" <mark@governanceprimer.com>, Paul McGrady <paul@elstermcgrady.com>, Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns@gmail.com> Cc: "gnso-secs@icann.org" <gnso-secs@icann.org>, "gnso-chairs@icann.org" <gnso-chairs@icann.org>, "COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG" <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response Thanks for that suggestion Paul, I’d be happy with that solution. Susan Sent from Outlook for iOS [aka.ms]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/aka.ms/o0ukef__;!!PtGJab4!-q3dsROz2Lj-Bfav1R5pvlKpC3Q684R4V3JALQ_Nf5z5lJTHmQmHhf2GQoRIiqqAYr3ZpoLSbri8uWd4iY1CClv6JrJ0Vw$> ________________________________ From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Mark W. Datysgeld via council <council@gnso.icann.org> Sent: Monday, July 3, 2023 7:29:47 PM To: Paul McGrady <paul@elstermcgrady.com>; Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns@gmail.com> Cc: Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs <gnso-secs@icann.org>; GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org>; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response I agree with Paul's edit. --- Mark W. Datysgeld Director at Governance Primer ICANN GNSO Councilor ________________________________ From: Paul McGrady <paul@elstermcgrady.com> Sent: Monday, July 3, 2023 09:44 To: Bruna Martins dos Santos; Mark W. Datysgeld Cc: GNSO-Chairs; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG Subject: RE: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response Thanks Bruna, Mark, Farell, Tomslin, and Susan, All, I think the reason for Susan’s proposed edit is coming from the current text which uses the singular article “a”, i.e. that at the end of the rebalancing each GNSO constituency would get “a” (singular) delegate to the Nom Com. 2. Do you support the view that the current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not. GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint a delegate to the NomCom. Combined with our request to add NPOC, this use of the singular article “a” could be read as the Council’s desire to remove one NomCom seat from the BC (which has 2) and give that to NPOC. If that is not our will, we need to correct the singular article “a”, perhaps along the lines of “at least one.” I think this makes more sense anyway, since why should we limit ourselves this early in the discussions when others in the community are certainly going to advocate for more seats for them while the Council, in the current draft, is advocating for simply reshuffling what we already have. If it is our will, however, to eliminate one seat for the BC and transfer that seat to the NPOC, I don’t think we should hide a ball that big – let’s just say it directly. I expect the BC reps may want to reply to this email. For clarity, I think we should not include Susan’s addition, but modify our response on 2. to read: 2. Do you support the view that the current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not. GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint at least one delegate to the NomCom. Hope this helps. Best, Paul From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> On Behalf Of Bruna Martins dos Santos via council Sent: Monday, July 3, 2023 4:08 AM To: Mark W. Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com> Cc: GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org>; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs <gnso-secs@icann.org>; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response Id like to also support Tomslin point on this matter. And I trust that the language that is on the document translates well NCSG's concerns regarding the addition of a seat in order to better represent the current configuration of GNSO at NomCom. And, in all honesty, I think this discussion is about remedying the lack of proper Non-Commercial representation at the committee, above all. Best, Bruna On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 3:19 AM Mark W. Datysgeld via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: We could probably do with CPH or NomCom appointees input here. --- Mark W. Datysgeld Director at Governance Primer ICANN GNSO Councilor ________________________________ From: Farell FOLLY via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2023 19:41 To: Tomslin Samme-Nlar Cc: GNSO-Chairs; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG<mailto:COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG> Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response I would second Tomslin on this. Best regards @__f_f__ ____________________________________ Lt-Colonel Farell FOLLY, Ir. GNSO Councillor - ICANN (Los Angeles, USA). https://www.linkedin.com/in/farellf/?locale=en_US [linkedin.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.linkedin.com/in/farellf/?locale=en_US__;!!PtGJab4!-q3dsROz2Lj-Bfav1R5pvlKpC3Q684R4V3JALQ_Nf5z5lJTHmQmHhf2GQoRIiqqAYr3ZpoLSbri8uWd4iY1CClt1CXAQVg$> On 2 Jul 2023, at 12:57, Tomslin Samme-Nlar via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: Dear Susan, all I would like to politely disagree with the proposed change. I think section 4 as originally written answers the question of 'how' enough from a council perspective. Warmly, Tomslin On Sat, 1 July 2023, 02:30 Susan Payne via council, <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: Hi Sebastien Thanks for this, and thanks to those who worked on the draft. I have proposed one addition to section 4 : “For avoidance of doubt, we do not believe that this should be effected by removing any seats from other GNSO groups.” I would trust that my Council colleagues would not disagree with this. thanks Susan Payne Head of Legal Policy Com Laude T +44 (0) 20 7421 8250 Ext 255 We are pleased to launch our new YouTube channel [comlaude.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/comlaude.com/__;!!PtGJab4!-q3dsROz2Lj-Bfav1R5pvlKpC3Q684R4V3JALQ_Nf5z5lJTHmQmHhf2GQoRIiqqAYr3ZpoLSbri8uWd4iY1CCluDEja3Hg$> From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> On Behalf Of Sebastien--- via council Sent: Monday, June 26, 2023 9:28 PM To: COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG; GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org>; gnso-secs@icann.org Subject: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response [comlaude.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/comlaude.com/__;!!PtGJab4!-q3dsROz2Lj-Bfav1R5pvlKpC3Q684R4V3JALQ_Nf5z5lJTHmQmHhf2GQoRIiqqAYr3ZpoLSbri8uWd4iY1CCluDEja3Hg$> [comlaude.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/comlaude.com/__;!!PtGJab4!-q3dsROz2Lj-Bfav1R5pvlKpC3Q684R4V3JALQ_Nf5z5lJTHmQmHhf2GQoRIiqqAYr3ZpoLSbri8uWd4iY1CCluDEja3Hg$> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QF_o1d5o3cqdJi1c_2YyWcsCepWpKGx-/edit?pl... 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Hi Paul, Thanks alot. That suggestion works. For completeness, I also made a minor edit to Question #1. So here below is what I see as the proposed response which includes your suggestion: 1. What does it mean to have a balanced NomCom at a point in time? For example, what criteria would you apply to measure or assess whether the NomCom is balanced? And further, how can one test whether or not the NomCom is balanced? GNSO Council response: The current NomCom structure is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws ACs, SOs, SGs and Constituencies (https://www.icann.org/nomcom2023). Going by this structure, a balanced NomCom is one with all Stakeholder Groups and Constituencies equally represented and this also forms the measure of balanced. 1. Do you support the view that the current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not. GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint at least one delegate to the NomCom. 1. How do you suggest that the NomCom’s composition be rebalanced? GNSO Council response: Addition of one seat in order to better represent the disparities amongst Constituencies representation and in order for NPOC to also be represented at the NomCom. Happy to discuss further. Warmly, Tomslin On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 at 22:45, Paul McGrady via council < council@gnso.icann.org> wrote:
Thanks Bruna, Mark, Farell, Tomslin, and Susan,
All, I think the reason for Susan’s proposed edit is coming from the current text which uses the singular article “a”, i.e. that at the end of the rebalancing each GNSO constituency would get “a” (singular) delegate to the Nom Com.
1. *Do you support the view that the current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not.*
GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint a delegate to the NomCom.
Combined with our request to add NPOC, this use of the singular article “a” could be read as the Council’s desire to remove one NomCom seat from the BC (which has 2) and give that to NPOC. If that is not our will, we need to correct the singular article “a”, perhaps along the lines of “at least one.” I think this makes more sense anyway, since why should we limit ourselves this early in the discussions when others in the community are certainly going to advocate for more seats for them while the Council, in the current draft, is advocating for simply reshuffling what we already have.
If it is our will, however, to eliminate one seat for the BC and transfer that seat to the NPOC, I don’t think we should hide a ball that big – let’s just say it directly. I expect the BC reps may want to reply to this email.
For clarity, I think we should not include Susan’s addition, but modify our response on 2. to read:
1. *Do you support the view that the current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not.*
GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint at least one delegate to the NomCom.
Hope this helps.
Best,
Paul
*From:* council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Bruna Martins dos Santos via council *Sent:* Monday, July 3, 2023 4:08 AM *To:* Mark W. Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com> *Cc:* GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org>; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs < gnso-secs@icann.org>; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG *Subject:* Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response
Id like to also support Tomslin point on this matter. And I trust that the language that is on the document translates well NCSG's concerns regarding the *addition* of a seat in order to better represent the current configuration of GNSO at NomCom. And, in all honesty, I think this discussion is about remedying the lack of proper Non-Commercial representation at the committee, above all.
Best,
Bruna
On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 3:19 AM Mark W. Datysgeld via council < council@gnso.icann.org> wrote:
We could probably do with CPH or NomCom appointees input here.
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*From:* Farell FOLLY via council <council@gnso.icann.org> *Sent:* Sunday, July 2, 2023 19:41 *To:* Tomslin Samme-Nlar *Cc:* GNSO-Chairs; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG *Subject:* Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response
I would second Tomslin on this.
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On 2 Jul 2023, at 12:57, Tomslin Samme-Nlar via council < council@gnso.icann.org> wrote:
Dear Susan, all
I would like to politely disagree with the proposed change. I think section 4 as originally written answers the question of 'how' enough from a council perspective.
Warmly, Tomslin
On Sat, 1 July 2023, 02:30 Susan Payne via council, < council@gnso.icann.org> wrote:
Hi Sebastien
Thanks for this, and thanks to those who worked on the draft. I have proposed one addition to section 4 : “For avoidance of doubt, we do not believe that this should be effected by removing any seats from other GNSO groups.” I would trust that my Council colleagues would not disagree with this.
thanks
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All, can you please indicate if there are any concerns about the additional edit proposed by Tomslin by 19.00 UTC today (Wednesday) at the latest? If no concerns are raised, we’ll go ahead and submit the updated letter to our Board Support colleagues. Best regards, Marika From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Tomslin Samme-Nlar via council <council@gnso.icann.org> Reply to: Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin@gmail.com> Date: Tuesday, 4 July 2023 at 16:00 To: Paul McGrady <paul@elstermcgrady.com> Cc: "gnso-chairs@icann.org" <gnso-chairs@icann.org>, "gnso-secs@icann.org" <gnso-secs@icann.org>, "council@gnso.icann.org" <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response Hi Paul, Thanks alot. That suggestion works. For completeness, I also made a minor edit to Question #1. So here below is what I see as the proposed response which includes your suggestion: 1. 2. 3. What does it mean to have a balanced 4. NomCom at a point in time? For example, what criteria would you apply to measure or assess whether the NomCom is balanced? And further, how can one test whether or not the NomCom is balanced? 5. GNSO Council response: The current NomCom structure is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws ACs, SOs, SGs and Constituencies (https://www.icann.org/nomcom2023). Going by this structure, a balanced NomCom is one with all Stakeholder Groups and Constituencies equally represented and this also forms the measure of balanced. 1. 2. 3. Do you support the view that the 4. current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not. 5. GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint at least one delegate to the NomCom. 1. 2. 3. How do you suggest that the NomCom’s 4. composition be rebalanced? 5. GNSO Council response: Addition of one seat in order to better represent the disparities amongst Constituencies representation and in order for NPOC to also be represented at the NomCom. Happy to discuss further. Warmly, Tomslin On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 at 22:45, Paul McGrady via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: Thanks Bruna, Mark, Farell, Tomslin, and Susan, All, I think the reason for Susan’s proposed edit is coming from the current text which uses the singular article “a”, i.e. that at the end of the rebalancing each GNSO constituency would get “a” (singular) delegate to the Nom Com. 2. Do you support the view that the current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not. GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint a delegate to the NomCom. Combined with our request to add NPOC, this use of the singular article “a” could be read as the Council’s desire to remove one NomCom seat from the BC (which has 2) and give that to NPOC. If that is not our will, we need to correct the singular article “a”, perhaps along the lines of “at least one.” I think this makes more sense anyway, since why should we limit ourselves this early in the discussions when others in the community are certainly going to advocate for more seats for them while the Council, in the current draft, is advocating for simply reshuffling what we already have. If it is our will, however, to eliminate one seat for the BC and transfer that seat to the NPOC, I don’t think we should hide a ball that big – let’s just say it directly. I expect the BC reps may want to reply to this email. For clarity, I think we should not include Susan’s addition, but modify our response on 2. to read: 2. Do you support the view that the current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not. GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint at least one delegate to the NomCom. Hope this helps. Best, Paul From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> On Behalf Of Bruna Martins dos Santos via council Sent: Monday, July 3, 2023 4:08 AM To: Mark W. Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com<mailto:mark@governanceprimer.com>> Cc: GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org>>; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs <gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>>; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG<mailto:COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG> Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response Id like to also support Tomslin point on this matter. And I trust that the language that is on the document translates well NCSG's concerns regarding the addition of a seat in order to better represent the current configuration of GNSO at NomCom. And, in all honesty, I think this discussion is about remedying the lack of proper Non-Commercial representation at the committee, above all. Best, Bruna On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 3:19 AM Mark W. Datysgeld via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: We could probably do with CPH or NomCom appointees input here. --- Mark W. Datysgeld Director at Governance Primer ICANN GNSO Councilor ________________________________ From: Farell FOLLY via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2023 19:41 To: Tomslin Samme-Nlar Cc: GNSO-Chairs; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG<mailto:COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG> Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response I would second Tomslin on this. Best regards @__f_f__ ____________________________________ Lt-Colonel Farell FOLLY, Ir. GNSO Councillor - ICANN (Los Angeles, USA). https://www.linkedin.com/in/farellf/?locale=en_US [linkedin.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.linkedin.com/in/farellf/?locale=en_US__;!!PtGJab4!-NO1vP6Oqrn9m1RFY7fqIGYX-3qDAzgRvypb-xyXk3XONsB1NNMEZ0TFzxw9Kj-4OXYxWsiE13QgYPkmuG_Nj8tUlrOecw$> On 2 Jul 2023, at 12:57, Tomslin Samme-Nlar via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: Dear Susan, all I would like to politely disagree with the proposed change. I think section 4 as originally written answers the question of 'how' enough from a council perspective. Warmly, Tomslin On Sat, 1 July 2023, 02:30 Susan Payne via council, <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: Hi Sebastien Thanks for this, and thanks to those who worked on the draft. I have proposed one addition to section 4 : “For avoidance of doubt, we do not believe that this should be effected by removing any seats from other GNSO groups.” I would trust that my Council colleagues would not disagree with this. thanks Susan Payne Head of Legal Policy Com Laude T +44 (0) 20 7421 8250 Ext 255 We are pleased to launch our new YouTube channel [comlaude.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/comlaude.com/__;!!PtGJab4!-NO1vP6Oqrn9m1RFY7fqIGYX-3qDAzgRvypb-xyXk3XONsB1NNMEZ0TFzxw9Kj-4OXYxWsiE13QgYPkmuG_Nj8vlzs_uFQ$> From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> On Behalf Of Sebastien--- via council Sent: Monday, June 26, 2023 9:28 PM To: COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG; GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org>; gnso-secs@icann.org Subject: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response [comlaude.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/comlaude.com/__;!!PtGJab4!-NO1vP6Oqrn9m1RFY7fqIGYX-3qDAzgRvypb-xyXk3XONsB1NNMEZ0TFzxw9Kj-4OXYxWsiE13QgYPkmuG_Nj8vlzs_uFQ$> [comlaude.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/comlaude.com/__;!!PtGJab4!-NO1vP6Oqrn9m1RFY7fqIGYX-3qDAzgRvypb-xyXk3XONsB1NNMEZ0TFzxw9Kj-4OXYxWsiE13QgYPkmuG_Nj8vlzs_uFQ$> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QF_o1d5o3cqdJi1c_2YyWcsCepWpKGx-/edit?pl... 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Thanks Marika, All, I don’t think “equally” works in this context since Stakeholder groups aren’t comprised of the same number of constituencies. I think of equally in this instance as a mathematical term and it could be read to mean that we would be advocating for: * Adding one seat for NPOC (I think everyone is OK with that) * Taking away 1 seat from the BC so that Constituencies are “equally” represented (I expect some BC reps may want to weigh in on that) * Adding 1 additional seat for the NCSG (since the CSG would then have 3 and the NCSG would only have 2) and adding 2 additional seats for each of the RrSG and RySG since they would only have 1 each and the NCSG and CSG would have 3 each at that point. * But then at least one constituency in the NSG would have 2 seats since an additional seat was added to them (3 seats and only 2 constituencies) so then each constituency in the CSG would need another seat so that things are equal at the constituency level, which would then trigger another round of additions at the stakeholder group level on both sides and the expansion process would never end. I much prefer the term “fairly” rather than “equally” since it doesn’t trigger an unending expansion nor does it confine us to a strict scarcity. I seriously doubt that any of the other SOs and ACs will put in comments designed to limit how many seats they get on NomCom and the Council doing so for its SO at this stage doesn’t seem like a good opening negotiating position. Tomslin, does “fairly” capture what you were trying to accomplish with “equally”? “Fairly” allows us to capture the concept of internal balance within our own SO and leaves open to discussions amongst ourselves later on how to accomplish that. If “fairly” doesn’t work, is there a different term we can use that does which does not trigger the math problem above? Best, Paul From: Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org> Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2023 5:30 AM To: Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin@gmail.com>; Paul McGrady <paul@elstermcgrady.com> Cc: GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org>; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs <gnso-secs@icann.org>; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response All, can you please indicate if there are any concerns about the additional edit proposed by Tomslin by 19.00 UTC today (Wednesday) at the latest? If no concerns are raised, we’ll go ahead and submit the updated letter to our Board Support colleagues. Best regards, Marika From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> on behalf of Tomslin Samme-Nlar via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Reply to: Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin@gmail.com<mailto:mesumbeslin@gmail.com>> Date: Tuesday, 4 July 2023 at 16:00 To: Paul McGrady <paul@elstermcgrady.com<mailto:paul@elstermcgrady.com>> Cc: "gnso-chairs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org>" <gnso-chairs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org>>, "gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>" <gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>>, "council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>" <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response Hi Paul, Thanks alot. That suggestion works. For completeness, I also made a minor edit to Question #1. So here below is what I see as the proposed response which includes your suggestion: 1. 2. 3. What does it mean to have a balanced 4. NomCom at a point in time? For example, what criteria would you apply to measure or assess whether the NomCom is balanced? And further, how can one test whether or not the NomCom is balanced? 5. GNSO Council response: The current NomCom structure is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws ACs, SOs, SGs and Constituencies (https://www.icann.org/nomcom2023). Going by this structure, a balanced NomCom is one with all Stakeholder Groups and Constituencies equally represented and this also forms the measure of balanced. 2. 3. 4. Do you support the view that the 5. current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not. 6. GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint at least one delegate to the NomCom. 4. 5. 6. How do you suggest that the NomCom’s 7. composition be rebalanced? 8. GNSO Council response: Addition of one seat in order to better represent the disparities amongst Constituencies representation and in order for NPOC to also be represented at the NomCom. Happy to discuss further. Warmly, Tomslin On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 at 22:45, Paul McGrady via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: Thanks Bruna, Mark, Farell, Tomslin, and Susan, All, I think the reason for Susan’s proposed edit is coming from the current text which uses the singular article “a”, i.e. that at the end of the rebalancing each GNSO constituency would get “a” (singular) delegate to the Nom Com. 2. Do you support the view that the current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not. GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint a delegate to the NomCom. Combined with our request to add NPOC, this use of the singular article “a” could be read as the Council’s desire to remove one NomCom seat from the BC (which has 2) and give that to NPOC. If that is not our will, we need to correct the singular article “a”, perhaps along the lines of “at least one.” I think this makes more sense anyway, since why should we limit ourselves this early in the discussions when others in the community are certainly going to advocate for more seats for them while the Council, in the current draft, is advocating for simply reshuffling what we already have. If it is our will, however, to eliminate one seat for the BC and transfer that seat to the NPOC, I don’t think we should hide a ball that big – let’s just say it directly. I expect the BC reps may want to reply to this email. For clarity, I think we should not include Susan’s addition, but modify our response on 2. to read: 2. Do you support the view that the current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not. GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint at least one delegate to the NomCom. Hope this helps. Best, Paul From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> On Behalf Of Bruna Martins dos Santos via council Sent: Monday, July 3, 2023 4:08 AM To: Mark W. Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com<mailto:mark@governanceprimer.com>> Cc: GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org>>; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs <gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>>; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG<mailto:COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG> Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response Id like to also support Tomslin point on this matter. And I trust that the language that is on the document translates well NCSG's concerns regarding the addition of a seat in order to better represent the current configuration of GNSO at NomCom. And, in all honesty, I think this discussion is about remedying the lack of proper Non-Commercial representation at the committee, above all. Best, Bruna On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 3:19 AM Mark W. Datysgeld via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: We could probably do with CPH or NomCom appointees input here. --- Mark W. Datysgeld Director at Governance Primer ICANN GNSO Councilor ________________________________ From: Farell FOLLY via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2023 19:41 To: Tomslin Samme-Nlar Cc: GNSO-Chairs; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG<mailto:COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG> Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response I would second Tomslin on this. Best regards @__f_f__ ____________________________________ Lt-Colonel Farell FOLLY, Ir. GNSO Councillor - ICANN (Los Angeles, USA). https://www.linkedin.com/in/farellf/?locale=en_US [linkedin.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.linkedin.com/in/farellf/?locale=en_US__;!!PtGJab4!-NO1vP6Oqrn9m1RFY7fqIGYX-3qDAzgRvypb-xyXk3XONsB1NNMEZ0TFzxw9Kj-4OXYxWsiE13QgYPkmuG_Nj8tUlrOecw$> On 2 Jul 2023, at 12:57, Tomslin Samme-Nlar via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: Dear Susan, all I would like to politely disagree with the proposed change. I think section 4 as originally written answers the question of 'how' enough from a council perspective. Warmly, Tomslin On Sat, 1 July 2023, 02:30 Susan Payne via council, <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: Hi Sebastien Thanks for this, and thanks to those who worked on the draft. 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Many thanks for your analysis Paul; I completely agree with you. I would suggest that either we leave it as it is or, if you believe that the insertion of “fairly” would add an extra dimension not captured in the original then no problem for me to add that. Best to all Marie From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> On Behalf Of Paul McGrady via council Sent: 05 July 2023 12:56 To: Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org>; Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin@gmail.com> Cc: Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs <gnso-secs@icann.org>; GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org>; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response Thanks Marika, All, I don’t think “equally” works in this context since Stakeholder groups aren’t comprised of the same number of constituencies. I think of equally in this instance as a mathematical term and it could be read to mean that we would be advocating for: * Adding one seat for NPOC (I think everyone is OK with that) * Taking away 1 seat from the BC so that Constituencies are “equally” represented (I expect some BC reps may want to weigh in on that) * Adding 1 additional seat for the NCSG (since the CSG would then have 3 and the NCSG would only have 2) and adding 2 additional seats for each of the RrSG and RySG since they would only have 1 each and the NCSG and CSG would have 3 each at that point. * But then at least one constituency in the NSG would have 2 seats since an additional seat was added to them (3 seats and only 2 constituencies) so then each constituency in the CSG would need another seat so that things are equal at the constituency level, which would then trigger another round of additions at the stakeholder group level on both sides and the expansion process would never end. I much prefer the term “fairly” rather than “equally” since it doesn’t trigger an unending expansion nor does it confine us to a strict scarcity. I seriously doubt that any of the other SOs and ACs will put in comments designed to limit how many seats they get on NomCom and the Council doing so for its SO at this stage doesn’t seem like a good opening negotiating position. Tomslin, does “fairly” capture what you were trying to accomplish with “equally”? “Fairly” allows us to capture the concept of internal balance within our own SO and leaves open to discussions amongst ourselves later on how to accomplish that. If “fairly” doesn’t work, is there a different term we can use that does which does not trigger the math problem above? Best, Paul From: Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org> Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2023 5:30 AM To: Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin@gmail.com>; Paul McGrady <paul@elstermcgrady.com> Cc: GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org>; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs <gnso-secs@icann.org>; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response All, can you please indicate if there are any concerns about the additional edit proposed by Tomslin by 19.00 UTC today (Wednesday) at the latest? If no concerns are raised, we’ll go ahead and submit the updated letter to our Board Support colleagues. Best regards, Marika From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> on behalf of Tomslin Samme-Nlar via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Reply to: Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin@gmail.com<mailto:mesumbeslin@gmail.com>> Date: Tuesday, 4 July 2023 at 16:00 To: Paul McGrady <paul@elstermcgrady.com<mailto:paul@elstermcgrady.com>> Cc: "gnso-chairs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org>" <gnso-chairs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org>>, "gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>" <gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>>, "council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>" <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response Hi Paul, Thanks alot. That suggestion works. For completeness, I also made a minor edit to Question #1. So here below is what I see as the proposed response which includes your suggestion: 1. 2. 3. What does it mean to have a balanced 4. NomCom at a point in time? For example, what criteria would you apply to measure or assess whether the NomCom is balanced? And further, how can one test whether or not the NomCom is balanced? 5. GNSO Council response: The current NomCom structure is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws ACs, SOs, SGs and Constituencies (https://www.icann.org/nomcom2023). Going by this structure, a balanced NomCom is one with all Stakeholder Groups and Constituencies equally represented and this also forms the measure of balanced. 2. 3. 4. Do you support the view that the 5. current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not. 6. GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint at least one delegate to the NomCom. 4. 5. 6. How do you suggest that the NomCom’s 7. composition be rebalanced? 8. GNSO Council response: Addition of one seat in order to better represent the disparities amongst Constituencies representation and in order for NPOC to also be represented at the NomCom. Happy to discuss further. Warmly, Tomslin On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 at 22:45, Paul McGrady via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: Thanks Bruna, Mark, Farell, Tomslin, and Susan, All, I think the reason for Susan’s proposed edit is coming from the current text which uses the singular article “a”, i.e. that at the end of the rebalancing each GNSO constituency would get “a” (singular) delegate to the Nom Com. 2. Do you support the view that the current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not. GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint a delegate to the NomCom. Combined with our request to add NPOC, this use of the singular article “a” could be read as the Council’s desire to remove one NomCom seat from the BC (which has 2) and give that to NPOC. If that is not our will, we need to correct the singular article “a”, perhaps along the lines of “at least one.” I think this makes more sense anyway, since why should we limit ourselves this early in the discussions when others in the community are certainly going to advocate for more seats for them while the Council, in the current draft, is advocating for simply reshuffling what we already have. If it is our will, however, to eliminate one seat for the BC and transfer that seat to the NPOC, I don’t think we should hide a ball that big – let’s just say it directly. I expect the BC reps may want to reply to this email. For clarity, I think we should not include Susan’s addition, but modify our response on 2. to read: 2. Do you support the view that the current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not. GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint at least one delegate to the NomCom. Hope this helps. Best, Paul From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> On Behalf Of Bruna Martins dos Santos via council Sent: Monday, July 3, 2023 4:08 AM To: Mark W. Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com<mailto:mark@governanceprimer.com>> Cc: GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org>>; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs <gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>>; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG<mailto:COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG> Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response Id like to also support Tomslin point on this matter. And I trust that the language that is on the document translates well NCSG's concerns regarding the addition of a seat in order to better represent the current configuration of GNSO at NomCom. And, in all honesty, I think this discussion is about remedying the lack of proper Non-Commercial representation at the committee, above all. Best, Bruna On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 3:19 AM Mark W. Datysgeld via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: We could probably do with CPH or NomCom appointees input here. --- Mark W. Datysgeld Director at Governance Primer ICANN GNSO Councilor ________________________________ From: Farell FOLLY via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2023 19:41 To: Tomslin Samme-Nlar Cc: GNSO-Chairs; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG<mailto:COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG> Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response I would second Tomslin on this. Best regards @__f_f__ ____________________________________ Lt-Colonel Farell FOLLY, Ir. GNSO Councillor - ICANN (Los Angeles, USA). https://www.linkedin.com/in/farellf/?locale=en_US [linkedin.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.linkedin.com/in/farellf/?locale=en_US__;!!PtGJab4!-NO1vP6Oqrn9m1RFY7fqIGYX-3qDAzgRvypb-xyXk3XONsB1NNMEZ0TFzxw9Kj-4OXYxWsiE13QgYPkmuG_Nj8tUlrOecw$> On 2 Jul 2023, at 12:57, Tomslin Samme-Nlar via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: Dear Susan, all I would like to politely disagree with the proposed change. I think section 4 as originally written answers the question of 'how' enough from a council perspective. Warmly, Tomslin On Sat, 1 July 2023, 02:30 Susan Payne via council, <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: Hi Sebastien Thanks for this, and thanks to those who worked on the draft. I have proposed one addition to section 4 : “For avoidance of doubt, we do not believe that this should be effected by removing any seats from other GNSO groups.” I would trust that my Council colleagues would not disagree with this. thanks Susan Payne Head of Legal Policy Com Laude T +44 (0) 20 7421 8250 Ext 255 We are pleased to launch our new YouTube channel [comlaude.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/comlaude.com/__;!!PtGJab4!-NO1vP6Oqrn9m1RFY7fqIGYX-3qDAzgRvypb-xyXk3XONsB1NNMEZ0TFzxw9Kj-4OXYxWsiE13QgYPkmuG_Nj8vlzs_uFQ$> From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> On Behalf Of Sebastien--- via council Sent: Monday, June 26, 2023 9:28 PM To: COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG; GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org>; gnso-secs@icann.org Subject: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response [comlaude.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/comlaude.com/__;!!PtGJab4!-NO1vP6Oqrn9m1RFY7fqIGYX-3qDAzgRvypb-xyXk3XONsB1NNMEZ0TFzxw9Kj-4OXYxWsiE13QgYPkmuG_Nj8vlzs_uFQ$> [comlaude.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/comlaude.com/__;!!PtGJab4!-NO1vP6Oqrn9m1RFY7fqIGYX-3qDAzgRvypb-xyXk3XONsB1NNMEZ0TFzxw9Kj-4OXYxWsiE13QgYPkmuG_Nj8vlzs_uFQ$> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QF_o1d5o3cqdJi1c_2YyWcsCepWpKGx-/edit?pl... 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While we discussed this in DC (albeit briefly), we didn’t sense the need for any specific response from the Council other than to maybe say that we would welcome the opportunity of a seat at the table for an NPOC representative (the only SG/C not currently represented). [comlaude.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/comlaude.com/__;!!PtGJab4!-NO1vP6Oqrn9m1RFY7fqIGYX-3qDAzgRvypb-xyXk3XONsB1NNMEZ0TFzxw9Kj-4OXYxWsiE13QgYPkmuG_Nj8vlzs_uFQ$> As it the tradition, the GNSO Council will limit its comments to what is directly a Council concern, and will let its different SG&Cs comment in their own right. 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Hey all, I would like to first thank Paul and Tomslin for the efforts in helping us find a compromise ! Personally I happen to think "fairly" would do the trick here - especially while there seems to be different interpretations about a possible fair nomcom rebalance and Council is still reflecting whether any extra seats should be added or reallocated. I think we need to separate the issues first: One urgent claim is to have an additional seat allocated to NPOC in order to provide a remedy to the lack of balanced non-commercial representation at the Nomcom, the second part would be the discussion of adding a third noncommercial seat. But going back to the "NCSG seat chat", I trust its important for us to mention that internally and governance-wise we tend to look at NCSG as a third group - even allowing membership to join just this part and not its constituencies. Therefore we dont necessarily see that one of our Constituencies would have 2 seats because it would be an SG seat. And, over the years, two facts have been brought to our attention over the years as part of our membership concerns: a. the current 2 BC seats; and b. The said discrepancy for NomCom representation: RySG and RrSG have seats as SGs, while NCSG and CSG are there through their Constituencies only. All that to say that: at the end of the day we're advocating for a proper NonCommercial representation at the NomCom level and some sort of parity between the houses and groups. But I would suggest for us to follow up with the "Fairly" suggestion - if my colleagues from NCSG agree. Best regards, Bruna On Wed, Jul 5, 2023 at 1:18 PM Marie Pattullo - AIM via council < council@gnso.icann.org> wrote:
Many thanks for your analysis Paul; I completely agree with you. I would suggest that either we leave it as it is or, if you believe that the insertion of “fairly” would add an extra dimension not captured in the original then no problem for me to add that.
Best to all
Marie
*From:* council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Paul McGrady via council *Sent:* 05 July 2023 12:56 *To:* Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org>; Tomslin Samme-Nlar < mesumbeslin@gmail.com> *Cc:* Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs <gnso-secs@icann.org>; GNSO-Chairs < gnso-chairs@icann.org>; council@gnso.icann.org *Subject:* Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response
Thanks Marika,
All, I don’t think “equally” works in this context since Stakeholder groups aren’t comprised of the same number of constituencies. I think of equally in this instance as a mathematical term and it could be read to mean that we would be advocating for:
- Adding one seat for NPOC (I think everyone is OK with that) - Taking away 1 seat from the BC so that Constituencies are “equally” represented (I expect some BC reps may want to weigh in on that) - Adding 1 additional seat for the NCSG (since the CSG would then have 3 and the NCSG would only have 2) and adding 2 additional seats for each of the RrSG and RySG since they would only have 1 each and the NCSG and CSG would have 3 each at that point. - But then at least one constituency in the NSG would have 2 seats since an additional seat was added to them (3 seats and only 2 constituencies) so then each constituency in the CSG would need another seat so that things are equal at the constituency level, which would then trigger another round of additions at the stakeholder group level on both sides and the expansion process would never end.
I much prefer the term “fairly” rather than “equally” since it doesn’t trigger an unending expansion nor does it confine us to a strict scarcity. I seriously doubt that any of the other SOs and ACs will put in comments designed to limit how many seats they get on NomCom and the Council doing so for its SO at this stage doesn’t seem like a good opening negotiating position.
Tomslin, does “fairly” capture what you were trying to accomplish with “equally”? “Fairly” allows us to capture the concept of internal balance within our own SO and leaves open to discussions amongst ourselves later on how to accomplish that. If “fairly” doesn’t work, is there a different term we can use that does which does not trigger the math problem above?
Best,
Paul
*From:* Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 5, 2023 5:30 AM *To:* Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin@gmail.com>; Paul McGrady < paul@elstermcgrady.com> *Cc:* GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org>; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs < gnso-secs@icann.org>; council@gnso.icann.org *Subject:* Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response
All, can you please indicate if there are any concerns about the additional edit proposed by Tomslin by 19.00 UTC today (Wednesday) at the latest? If no concerns are raised, we’ll go ahead and submit the updated letter to our Board Support colleagues.
Best regards,
Marika
*From: *council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Tomslin Samme-Nlar via council <council@gnso.icann.org> *Reply to: *Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin@gmail.com> *Date: *Tuesday, 4 July 2023 at 16:00 *To: *Paul McGrady <paul@elstermcgrady.com> *Cc: *"gnso-chairs@icann.org" <gnso-chairs@icann.org>, " gnso-secs@icann.org" <gnso-secs@icann.org>, "council@gnso.icann.org" < council@gnso.icann.org> *Subject: *Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response
Hi Paul,
Thanks alot. That suggestion works. For completeness, I also made a minor edit to Question #1. So here below is what I see as the proposed response which includes your suggestion:
1. 2. 3. *What does it mean to have a balanced* 4. *NomCom at a point in time? For example, what criteria would you apply to measure or assess whether the NomCom is balanced? And further, how can one test whether or not the NomCom is balanced?* 5.
GNSO Council response: The current NomCom structure is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws ACs, SOs, SGs and Constituencies (https://www.icann.org/nomcom2023). Going by this structure, a balanced NomCom is one with all Stakeholder Groups and Constituencies equally represented and this also forms the measure of balanced.
*2. *
*3. *
*4. **Do you support the view that the*
*5. **current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not.*
*6. *
GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint at least one delegate to the NomCom.
*4. *
*5. *
*6. **How do you suggest that the NomCom’s*
*7. **composition be rebalanced?*
*8. *
GNSO Council response: Addition of one seat in order to better represent the disparities amongst Constituencies representation and in order for NPOC to also be represented at the NomCom.
Happy to discuss further.
Warmly,
Tomslin
On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 at 22:45, Paul McGrady via council < council@gnso.icann.org> wrote:
Thanks Bruna, Mark, Farell, Tomslin, and Susan,
All, I think the reason for Susan’s proposed edit is coming from the current text which uses the singular article “a”, i.e. that at the end of the rebalancing each GNSO constituency would get “a” (singular) delegate to the Nom Com.
2. *Do you support the view that the current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not.*
GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint a delegate to the NomCom.
Combined with our request to add NPOC, this use of the singular article “a” could be read as the Council’s desire to remove one NomCom seat from the BC (which has 2) and give that to NPOC. If that is not our will, we need to correct the singular article “a”, perhaps along the lines of “at least one.” I think this makes more sense anyway, since why should we limit ourselves this early in the discussions when others in the community are certainly going to advocate for more seats for them while the Council, in the current draft, is advocating for simply reshuffling what we already have.
If it is our will, however, to eliminate one seat for the BC and transfer that seat to the NPOC, I don’t think we should hide a ball that big – let’s just say it directly. I expect the BC reps may want to reply to this email.
For clarity, I think we should not include Susan’s addition, but modify our response on 2. to read:
2. *Do you support the view that the current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not.*
GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint at least one delegate to the NomCom.
Hope this helps.
Best,
Paul
*From:* council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Bruna Martins dos Santos via council *Sent:* Monday, July 3, 2023 4:08 AM *To:* Mark W. Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com> *Cc:* GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org>; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs < gnso-secs@icann.org>; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG *Subject:* Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response
Id like to also support Tomslin point on this matter. And I trust that the language that is on the document translates well NCSG's concerns regarding the *addition* of a seat in order to better represent the current configuration of GNSO at NomCom. And, in all honesty, I think this discussion is about remedying the lack of proper Non-Commercial representation at the committee, above all.
Best,
Bruna
On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 3:19 AM Mark W. Datysgeld via council < council@gnso.icann.org> wrote:
We could probably do with CPH or NomCom appointees input here.
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*From:* Farell FOLLY via council <council@gnso.icann.org> *Sent:* Sunday, July 2, 2023 19:41 *To:* Tomslin Samme-Nlar *Cc:* GNSO-Chairs; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG *Subject:* Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response
I would second Tomslin on this.
Best regards
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On 2 Jul 2023, at 12:57, Tomslin Samme-Nlar via council < council@gnso.icann.org> wrote:
Dear Susan, all
I would like to politely disagree with the proposed change. I think section 4 as originally written answers the question of 'how' enough from a council perspective.
Warmly, Tomslin
On Sat, 1 July 2023, 02:30 Susan Payne via council, < council@gnso.icann.org> wrote:
Hi Sebastien
Thanks for this, and thanks to those who worked on the draft. I have proposed one addition to section 4 : “For avoidance of doubt, we do not believe that this should be effected by removing any seats from other GNSO groups.” I would trust that my Council colleagues would not disagree with this.
thanks
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We have prepared a response to the Board’s questions about the NomCom rebalancing. While we discussed this in DC (albeit briefly), we didn’t sense the need for any specific response from the Council other than to maybe say that we would welcome the opportunity of a seat at the table for an NPOC representative (the only SG/C not currently represented). [comlaude.com] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/comlaude.com/__;!!PtGJab4!-NO1vP6Oqrn9m1RFY7fqIGYX-3qDAzgRvypb-xyXk3XONsB1NNMEZ0TFzxw9Kj-4OXYxWsiE13QgYPkmuG_Nj8vlzs_uFQ$>
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Hi Paul, Thanks again. As Bruna explains, 'equally' could still have addressed that mathematical imbalance between CSG and NCSG but yes, 'fairly' does capture what I was trying to accomplish as well and I am happy to go with the term 'fairly' to enable us move forward with the comment. Thanks everyone for the collaboration on this. Warmly, Tomslin On Wed, 5 Jul 2023 at 23:33, Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey all,
I would like to first thank Paul and Tomslin for the efforts in helping us find a compromise !
Personally I happen to think "fairly" would do the trick here - especially while there seems to be different interpretations about a possible fair nomcom rebalance and Council is still reflecting whether any extra seats should be added or reallocated. I think we need to separate the issues first: One urgent claim is to have an additional seat allocated to NPOC in order to provide a remedy to the lack of balanced non-commercial representation at the Nomcom, the second part would be the discussion of adding a third noncommercial seat.
But going back to the "NCSG seat chat", I trust its important for us to mention that internally and governance-wise we tend to look at NCSG as a third group - even allowing membership to join just this part and not its constituencies. Therefore we dont necessarily see that one of our Constituencies would have 2 seats because it would be an SG seat. And, over the years, two facts have been brought to our attention over the years as part of our membership concerns: a. the current 2 BC seats; and b. The said discrepancy for NomCom representation: RySG and RrSG have seats as SGs, while NCSG and CSG are there through their Constituencies only.
All that to say that: at the end of the day we're advocating for a proper NonCommercial representation at the NomCom level and some sort of parity between the houses and groups. But I would suggest for us to follow up with the "Fairly" suggestion - if my colleagues from NCSG agree.
Best regards, Bruna
On Wed, Jul 5, 2023 at 1:18 PM Marie Pattullo - AIM via council < council@gnso.icann.org> wrote:
Many thanks for your analysis Paul; I completely agree with you. I would suggest that either we leave it as it is or, if you believe that the insertion of “fairly” would add an extra dimension not captured in the original then no problem for me to add that.
Best to all
Marie
*From:* council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Paul McGrady via council *Sent:* 05 July 2023 12:56 *To:* Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org>; Tomslin Samme-Nlar < mesumbeslin@gmail.com> *Cc:* Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs <gnso-secs@icann.org>; GNSO-Chairs < gnso-chairs@icann.org>; council@gnso.icann.org *Subject:* Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response
Thanks Marika,
All, I don’t think “equally” works in this context since Stakeholder groups aren’t comprised of the same number of constituencies. I think of equally in this instance as a mathematical term and it could be read to mean that we would be advocating for:
- Adding one seat for NPOC (I think everyone is OK with that) - Taking away 1 seat from the BC so that Constituencies are “equally” represented (I expect some BC reps may want to weigh in on that) - Adding 1 additional seat for the NCSG (since the CSG would then have 3 and the NCSG would only have 2) and adding 2 additional seats for each of the RrSG and RySG since they would only have 1 each and the NCSG and CSG would have 3 each at that point. - But then at least one constituency in the NSG would have 2 seats since an additional seat was added to them (3 seats and only 2 constituencies) so then each constituency in the CSG would need another seat so that things are equal at the constituency level, which would then trigger another round of additions at the stakeholder group level on both sides and the expansion process would never end.
I much prefer the term “fairly” rather than “equally” since it doesn’t trigger an unending expansion nor does it confine us to a strict scarcity. I seriously doubt that any of the other SOs and ACs will put in comments designed to limit how many seats they get on NomCom and the Council doing so for its SO at this stage doesn’t seem like a good opening negotiating position.
Tomslin, does “fairly” capture what you were trying to accomplish with “equally”? “Fairly” allows us to capture the concept of internal balance within our own SO and leaves open to discussions amongst ourselves later on how to accomplish that. If “fairly” doesn’t work, is there a different term we can use that does which does not trigger the math problem above?
Best,
Paul
*From:* Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 5, 2023 5:30 AM *To:* Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin@gmail.com>; Paul McGrady < paul@elstermcgrady.com> *Cc:* GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org>; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs < gnso-secs@icann.org>; council@gnso.icann.org *Subject:* Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response
All, can you please indicate if there are any concerns about the additional edit proposed by Tomslin by 19.00 UTC today (Wednesday) at the latest? If no concerns are raised, we’ll go ahead and submit the updated letter to our Board Support colleagues.
Best regards,
Marika
*From: *council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Tomslin Samme-Nlar via council <council@gnso.icann.org> *Reply to: *Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin@gmail.com> *Date: *Tuesday, 4 July 2023 at 16:00 *To: *Paul McGrady <paul@elstermcgrady.com> *Cc: *"gnso-chairs@icann.org" <gnso-chairs@icann.org>, " gnso-secs@icann.org" <gnso-secs@icann.org>, "council@gnso.icann.org" < council@gnso.icann.org> *Subject: *Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response
Hi Paul,
Thanks alot. That suggestion works. For completeness, I also made a minor edit to Question #1. So here below is what I see as the proposed response which includes your suggestion:
1. 2. 3. *What does it mean to have a balanced* 4. *NomCom at a point in time? For example, what criteria would you apply to measure or assess whether the NomCom is balanced? And further, how can one test whether or not the NomCom is balanced?* 5.
GNSO Council response: The current NomCom structure is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws ACs, SOs, SGs and Constituencies (https://www.icann.org/nomcom2023). Going by this structure, a balanced NomCom is one with all Stakeholder Groups and Constituencies equally represented and this also forms the measure of balanced.
*2. *
*3. *
*4. **Do you support the view that the*
*5. **current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not.*
*6. *
GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint at least one delegate to the NomCom.
*4. *
*5. *
*6. **How do you suggest that the NomCom’s*
*7. **composition be rebalanced?*
*8. *
GNSO Council response: Addition of one seat in order to better represent the disparities amongst Constituencies representation and in order for NPOC to also be represented at the NomCom.
Happy to discuss further.
Warmly,
Tomslin
On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 at 22:45, Paul McGrady via council < council@gnso.icann.org> wrote:
Thanks Bruna, Mark, Farell, Tomslin, and Susan,
All, I think the reason for Susan’s proposed edit is coming from the current text which uses the singular article “a”, i.e. that at the end of the rebalancing each GNSO constituency would get “a” (singular) delegate to the Nom Com.
2. *Do you support the view that the current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not.*
GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint a delegate to the NomCom.
Combined with our request to add NPOC, this use of the singular article “a” could be read as the Council’s desire to remove one NomCom seat from the BC (which has 2) and give that to NPOC. If that is not our will, we need to correct the singular article “a”, perhaps along the lines of “at least one.” I think this makes more sense anyway, since why should we limit ourselves this early in the discussions when others in the community are certainly going to advocate for more seats for them while the Council, in the current draft, is advocating for simply reshuffling what we already have.
If it is our will, however, to eliminate one seat for the BC and transfer that seat to the NPOC, I don’t think we should hide a ball that big – let’s just say it directly. I expect the BC reps may want to reply to this email.
For clarity, I think we should not include Susan’s addition, but modify our response on 2. to read:
2. *Do you support the view that the current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not.*
GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint at least one delegate to the NomCom.
Hope this helps.
Best,
Paul
*From:* council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Bruna Martins dos Santos via council *Sent:* Monday, July 3, 2023 4:08 AM *To:* Mark W. Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com> *Cc:* GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org>; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs < gnso-secs@icann.org>; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG *Subject:* Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response
Id like to also support Tomslin point on this matter. And I trust that the language that is on the document translates well NCSG's concerns regarding the *addition* of a seat in order to better represent the current configuration of GNSO at NomCom. And, in all honesty, I think this discussion is about remedying the lack of proper Non-Commercial representation at the committee, above all.
Best,
Bruna
On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 3:19 AM Mark W. Datysgeld via council < council@gnso.icann.org> wrote:
We could probably do with CPH or NomCom appointees input here.
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*From:* Farell FOLLY via council <council@gnso.icann.org> *Sent:* Sunday, July 2, 2023 19:41 *To:* Tomslin Samme-Nlar *Cc:* GNSO-Chairs; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG *Subject:* Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response
I would second Tomslin on this.
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On 2 Jul 2023, at 12:57, Tomslin Samme-Nlar via council < council@gnso.icann.org> wrote:
Dear Susan, all
I would like to politely disagree with the proposed change. I think section 4 as originally written answers the question of 'how' enough from a council perspective.
Warmly, Tomslin
On Sat, 1 July 2023, 02:30 Susan Payne via council, < council@gnso.icann.org> wrote:
Hi Sebastien
Thanks for this, and thanks to those who worked on the draft. I have proposed one addition to section 4 : “For avoidance of doubt, we do not believe that this should be effected by removing any seats from other GNSO groups.” I would trust that my Council colleagues would not disagree with this.
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We have prepared a response to the Board’s questions about the NomCom rebalancing. While we discussed this in DC (albeit briefly), we didn’t sense the need for any specific response from the Council other than to maybe say that we would welcome the opportunity of a seat at the table for an NPOC representative (the only SG/C not currently represented). [comlaude.com] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/comlaude.com/__;!!PtGJab4!-NO1vP6Oqrn9m1RFY7fqIGYX-3qDAzgRvypb-xyXk3XONsB1NNMEZ0TFzxw9Kj-4OXYxWsiE13QgYPkmuG_Nj8vlzs_uFQ$>
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Thanks, all. The updated letter has now been sent to the ICANN Board (see attached) and will get posted on the GNSO Council correspondence page shortly. Best regards, Marika From: Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin@gmail.com> Date: Wednesday, 5 July 2023 at 16:25 To: Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns@gmail.com> Cc: Marie Pattullo - AIM <marie.pattullo@aim.be>, Paul McGrady <paul@elstermcgrady.com>, Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org>, "gnso-secs@icann.org" <gnso-secs@icann.org>, "gnso-chairs@icann.org" <gnso-chairs@icann.org>, "council@gnso.icann.org" <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: [Ext] Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response Hi Paul, Thanks again. As Bruna explains, 'equally' could still have addressed that mathematical imbalance between CSG and NCSG but yes, 'fairly' does capture what I was trying to accomplish as well and I am happy to go with the term 'fairly' to enable us move forward with the comment. Thanks everyone for the collaboration on this. Warmly, Tomslin On Wed, 5 Jul 2023 at 23:33, Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns@gmail.com<mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com>> wrote: Hey all, I would like to first thank Paul and Tomslin for the efforts in helping us find a compromise ! Personally I happen to think "fairly" would do the trick here - especially while there seems to be different interpretations about a possible fair nomcom rebalance and Council is still reflecting whether any extra seats should be added or reallocated. I think we need to separate the issues first: One urgent claim is to have an additional seat allocated to NPOC in order to provide a remedy to the lack of balanced non-commercial representation at the Nomcom, the second part would be the discussion of adding a third noncommercial seat. But going back to the "NCSG seat chat", I trust its important for us to mention that internally and governance-wise we tend to look at NCSG as a third group - even allowing membership to join just this part and not its constituencies. Therefore we dont necessarily see that one of our Constituencies would have 2 seats because it would be an SG seat. And, over the years, two facts have been brought to our attention over the years as part of our membership concerns: a. the current 2 BC seats; and b. The said discrepancy for NomCom representation: RySG and RrSG have seats as SGs, while NCSG and CSG are there through their Constituencies only. All that to say that: at the end of the day we're advocating for a proper NonCommercial representation at the NomCom level and some sort of parity between the houses and groups. But I would suggest for us to follow up with the "Fairly" suggestion - if my colleagues from NCSG agree. Best regards, Bruna On Wed, Jul 5, 2023 at 1:18 PM Marie Pattullo - AIM via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: Many thanks for your analysis Paul; I completely agree with you. I would suggest that either we leave it as it is or, if you believe that the insertion of “fairly” would add an extra dimension not captured in the original then no problem for me to add that. Best to all Marie From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> On Behalf Of Paul McGrady via council Sent: 05 July 2023 12:56 To: Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org>>; Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin@gmail.com<mailto:mesumbeslin@gmail.com>> Cc: Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs <gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>>; GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org>>; council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response Thanks Marika, All, I don’t think “equally” works in this context since Stakeholder groups aren’t comprised of the same number of constituencies. I think of equally in this instance as a mathematical term and it could be read to mean that we would be advocating for: · Adding one seat for NPOC (I think everyone is OK with that) · Taking away 1 seat from the BC so that Constituencies are “equally” represented (I expect some BC reps may want to weigh in on that) · Adding 1 additional seat for the NCSG (since the CSG would then have 3 and the NCSG would only have 2) and adding 2 additional seats for each of the RrSG and RySG since they would only have 1 each and the NCSG and CSG would have 3 each at that point. · But then at least one constituency in the NSG would have 2 seats since an additional seat was added to them (3 seats and only 2 constituencies) so then each constituency in the CSG would need another seat so that things are equal at the constituency level, which would then trigger another round of additions at the stakeholder group level on both sides and the expansion process would never end. I much prefer the term “fairly” rather than “equally” since it doesn’t trigger an unending expansion nor does it confine us to a strict scarcity. I seriously doubt that any of the other SOs and ACs will put in comments designed to limit how many seats they get on NomCom and the Council doing so for its SO at this stage doesn’t seem like a good opening negotiating position. Tomslin, does “fairly” capture what you were trying to accomplish with “equally”? “Fairly” allows us to capture the concept of internal balance within our own SO and leaves open to discussions amongst ourselves later on how to accomplish that. If “fairly” doesn’t work, is there a different term we can use that does which does not trigger the math problem above? Best, Paul From: Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org>> Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2023 5:30 AM To: Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin@gmail.com<mailto:mesumbeslin@gmail.com>>; Paul McGrady <paul@elstermcgrady.com<mailto:paul@elstermcgrady.com>> Cc: GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org>>; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs <gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>>; council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response All, can you please indicate if there are any concerns about the additional edit proposed by Tomslin by 19.00 UTC today (Wednesday) at the latest? If no concerns are raised, we’ll go ahead and submit the updated letter to our Board Support colleagues. Best regards, Marika From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> on behalf of Tomslin Samme-Nlar via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Reply to: Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin@gmail.com<mailto:mesumbeslin@gmail.com>> Date: Tuesday, 4 July 2023 at 16:00 To: Paul McGrady <paul@elstermcgrady.com<mailto:paul@elstermcgrady.com>> Cc: "gnso-chairs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org>" <gnso-chairs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org>>, "gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>" <gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>>, "council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>" <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response Hi Paul, Thanks alot. That suggestion works. For completeness, I also made a minor edit to Question #1. So here below is what I see as the proposed response which includes your suggestion: 1. 2. 3. What does it mean to have a balanced 4. NomCom at a point in time? For example, what criteria would you apply to measure or assess whether the NomCom is balanced? And further, how can one test whether or not the NomCom is balanced? 5. GNSO Council response: The current NomCom structure is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws ACs, SOs, SGs and Constituencies (https://www.icann.org/nomcom2023). Going by this structure, a balanced NomCom is one with all Stakeholder Groups and Constituencies equally represented and this also forms the measure of balanced. 2. 3. 4. Do you support the view that the 5. current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not. 6. GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint at least one delegate to the NomCom. 4. 5. 6. How do you suggest that the NomCom’s 7. composition be rebalanced? 8. GNSO Council response: Addition of one seat in order to better represent the disparities amongst Constituencies representation and in order for NPOC to also be represented at the NomCom. Happy to discuss further. Warmly, Tomslin On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 at 22:45, Paul McGrady via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: Thanks Bruna, Mark, Farell, Tomslin, and Susan, All, I think the reason for Susan’s proposed edit is coming from the current text which uses the singular article “a”, i.e. that at the end of the rebalancing each GNSO constituency would get “a” (singular) delegate to the Nom Com. 2. Do you support the view that the current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not. GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint a delegate to the NomCom. Combined with our request to add NPOC, this use of the singular article “a” could be read as the Council’s desire to remove one NomCom seat from the BC (which has 2) and give that to NPOC. If that is not our will, we need to correct the singular article “a”, perhaps along the lines of “at least one.” I think this makes more sense anyway, since why should we limit ourselves this early in the discussions when others in the community are certainly going to advocate for more seats for them while the Council, in the current draft, is advocating for simply reshuffling what we already have. If it is our will, however, to eliminate one seat for the BC and transfer that seat to the NPOC, I don’t think we should hide a ball that big – let’s just say it directly. I expect the BC reps may want to reply to this email. For clarity, I think we should not include Susan’s addition, but modify our response on 2. to read: 2. Do you support the view that the current composition of the NomCom needs to be rebalanced? Please explain why or why not. GNSO Council response: Composition of the NomCom is based on appointments made by bodies defined in the ICANN Bylaws. Article 8.2 of the ICANN Bylaws regarding NomCom composition refers to GNSO organizations as per Article 11. However, the only NCSG constituency listed is NCUC. Accordingly, Article 8.2 of the Bylaws should be amended to add a seat on the NomCom for NPOC. The GNSO Council supports rebalancing the current composition to allow for all GNSO Constituencies to appoint at least one delegate to the NomCom. Hope this helps. Best, Paul From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> On Behalf Of Bruna Martins dos Santos via council Sent: Monday, July 3, 2023 4:08 AM To: Mark W. Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com<mailto:mark@governanceprimer.com>> Cc: GNSO-Chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org>>; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs <gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>>; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG<mailto:COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG> Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response Id like to also support Tomslin point on this matter. And I trust that the language that is on the document translates well NCSG's concerns regarding the addition of a seat in order to better represent the current configuration of GNSO at NomCom. And, in all honesty, I think this discussion is about remedying the lack of proper Non-Commercial representation at the committee, above all. Best, Bruna On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 3:19 AM Mark W. Datysgeld via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: We could probably do with CPH or NomCom appointees input here. --- Mark W. Datysgeld Director at Governance Primer ICANN GNSO Councilor ________________________________ From: Farell FOLLY via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2023 19:41 To: Tomslin Samme-Nlar Cc: GNSO-Chairs; Julie Bisland via Gnso-secs; COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG<mailto:COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG> Subject: Re: [council] NomCom Rebalancing response I would second Tomslin on this. Best regards @__f_f__ ____________________________________ Lt-Colonel Farell FOLLY, Ir. GNSO Councillor - ICANN (Los Angeles, USA). https://www.linkedin.com/in/farellf/?locale=en_US [linkedin.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.linkedin.com/in/farellf/?locale=en_US__;!!PtGJab4!-NO1vP6Oqrn9m1RFY7fqIGYX-3qDAzgRvypb-xyXk3XONsB1NNMEZ0TFzxw9Kj-4OXYxWsiE13QgYPkmuG_Nj8tUlrOecw$> On 2 Jul 2023, at 12:57, Tomslin Samme-Nlar via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: Dear Susan, all I would like to politely disagree with the proposed change. I think section 4 as originally written answers the question of 'how' enough from a council perspective. Warmly, Tomslin On Sat, 1 July 2023, 02:30 Susan Payne via council, <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: Hi Sebastien Thanks for this, and thanks to those who worked on the draft. I have proposed one addition to section 4 : “For avoidance of doubt, we do not believe that this should be effected by removing any seats from other GNSO groups.” I would trust that my Council colleagues would not disagree with this. thanks Susan Payne Head of Legal Policy Com Laude T +44 (0) 20 7421 8250 Ext 255 We are pleased to launch our new YouTube channelError! Filename not specified. 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Anne ICANN -
Bruna Martins dos Santos -
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Farell FOLLY -
Marie Pattullo - AIM -
Marika Konings -
Mark Datysgeld -
Mark W. Datysgeld
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Osvaldo Novoa -
Paul McGrady -
Sebastien＠registry.godaddy -
Susan Payne -
Tomslin Samme-Nlar