Councillors, For those of you that haven't seen this, here is a link to the letter NTIA has sent to ICANN re the new gTLD program. http://www.icann.org/en/correspondence/strickling-to-dengate-thrush-16jun11-... This is one of the topics that we could discuss during our Saturday morning session, if there is interest in doing so. Stéphane
Despite the unfortunate timing (16 June) I think this is an important development and support discussing it on Saturday. We may need to have a follow up discussion, but it would be good to have at least an initial conversation as soon as possible. Cheers Mary Mary W S Wong Professor of Law Chair, Graduate IP Programs Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAWTwo White StreetConcord, NH 03301USAEmail: mary.wong@law.unh.eduPhone: 1-603-513-5143Webpage: http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.phpSelected writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: http://ssrn.com/author=437584>>> From: Stéphane Van Gelder<stephane.vangelder@indom.com> To:GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> Date: 6/17/2011 5:40 AM Subject: [council] NTIA letter to ICANN Councillors, For those of you that haven't seen this, here is a link to the letter NTIA has sent to ICANN re the new gTLD program. http://www.icann.org/en/correspondence/strickling-to-dengate-thrush-16jun11-... This is one of the topics that we could discuss during our Saturday morning session, if there is interest in doing so. Stéphane
I am not sure to what end? Why would we discuss this? Haven’t we already got a full agenda? Why is this particular letter so important. I am not convinced the GNSO Council is in a position to respond nor assist here... Adrian Kinderis From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu Sent: Friday, 17 June 2011 5:45 PM To: GNSO Council List Subject: Re: [council] NTIA letter to ICANN Despite the unfortunate timing (16 June) I think this is an important development and support discussing it on Saturday. We may need to have a follow up discussion, but it would be good to have at least an initial conversation as soon as possible. Cheers Mary Mary W S Wong Professor of Law Chair, Graduate IP Programs Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAW Two White Street Concord, NH 03301 USA Email: mary.wong@law.unh.edu<mailto:mary.wong@law.unh.edu> Phone: 1-603-513-5143 Webpage: http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.php Selected writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: http://ssrn.com/author=437584
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Stéphane Van Gelder<stephane.vangelder@indom.com> To: GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> Date: 6/17/2011 5:40 AM Subject: [council] NTIA letter to ICANN Councillors, For those of you that haven't seen this, here is a link to the letter NTIA has sent to ICANN re the new gTLD program. http://www.icann.org/en/correspondence/strickling-to-dengate-thrush-16jun11-... This is one of the topics that we could discuss during our Saturday morning session, if there is interest in doing so. Stéphane
I agree we won't be in a position to respond at the moment, and certainly not in the next week, but my thought was: (1) given that we'd had a WG looking at the issue which reached no consensus, the Council as managers could (should?) at least start a discussion as to whether or not to re-open the issue within the GNSO community; and (2) in view of its potential implications for the new gTLD program, if we do decide to start discussing it, it might be useful to do so ahead of the special Board meeting on Monday. Cheers Mary Mary W S Wong Professor of Law Chair, Graduate IP Programs Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAWTwo White StreetConcord, NH 03301USAEmail: mary.wong@law.unh.eduPhone: 1-603-513-5143Webpage: http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.phpSelected writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: http://ssrn.com/author=437584>>> From: Adrian Kinderis <adrian@ausregistry.com.au> To:"Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu" <Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu>, GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> Date: 6/17/2011 5:49 AM Subject: RE: [council] NTIA letter to ICANN I am not sure to what end? Why would we discuss this? Haven’t we already got a full agenda? Why is this particular letter so important. I am not convinced the GNSO Council is in a position to respond nor assist here... Adrian Kinderis From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu Sent: Friday, 17 June 2011 5:45 PM To: GNSO Council List Subject: Re: [council] NTIA letter to ICANN Despite the unfortunate timing (16 June) I think this is an important development and support discussing it on Saturday. We may need to have a follow up discussion, but it would be good to have at least an initial conversation as soon as possible. Cheers Mary Mary W S Wong Professor of Law Chair, Graduate IP Programs Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAWTwo White StreetConcord, NH 03301USAEmail: mary.wong@law.unh.eduPhone: 1-603-513-5143Webpage: http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.phpSelected writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: http://ssrn.com/author=437584
From: Stéphane Van Gelder<stephane.vangelder@indom.com> To: GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> Date: 6/17/2011 5:40 AM Subject: [council] NTIA letter to ICANN Councillors, For those of you that haven't seen this, here is a link to the letter NTIA has sent to ICANN re the new gTLD program. http://www.icann.org/en/correspondence/strickling-to-dengate-thrush-16jun11-... This is one of the topics that we could discuss during our Saturday morning session, if there is interest in doing so. Stéphane
If the USG had not have sent that letter would we have felt the need to “re-open” the discussion? As you have said, we already tried and got nowhere. What has changed? I believe it is up to the Board to determine if this is an issue. We don’t take direction from any one government last time I checked. I won’t even ask if the GNSO Council would want immediate discussions if the Australian Government sent an letter of the same ilk... I am not interested in re-opening any debate or discussion and strongly suggest the GNSO Council observe and move on. Adrian Kinderis From: Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu [mailto:Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu] Sent: Friday, 17 June 2011 5:57 PM To: Adrian Kinderis; GNSO Council List Subject: RE: [council] NTIA letter to ICANN I agree we won't be in a position to respond at the moment, and certainly not in the next week, but my thought was: (1) given that we'd had a WG looking at the issue which reached no consensus, the Council as managers could (should?) at least start a discussion as to whether or not to re-open the issue within the GNSO community; and (2) in view of its potential implications for the new gTLD program, if we do decide to start discussing it, it might be useful to do so ahead of the special Board meeting on Monday. Cheers Mary Mary W S Wong Professor of Law Chair, Graduate IP Programs Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAW Two White Street Concord, NH 03301 USA Email: mary.wong@law.unh.edu<mailto:mary.wong@law.unh.edu> Phone: 1-603-513-5143 Webpage: http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.php Selected writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: http://ssrn.com/author=437584
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Adrian Kinderis <adrian@ausregistry.com.au> To: "Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu" <Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu>, GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> Date: 6/17/2011 5:49 AM Subject: RE: [council] NTIA letter to ICANN I am not sure to what end? Why would we discuss this? Haven’t we already got a full agenda? Why is this particular letter so important. I am not convinced the GNSO Council is in a position to respond nor assist here... Adrian Kinderis From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu Sent: Friday, 17 June 2011 5:45 PM To: GNSO Council List Subject: Re: [council] NTIA letter to ICANN Despite the unfortunate timing (16 June) I think this is an important development and support discussing it on Saturday. We may need to have a follow up discussion, but it would be good to have at least an initial conversation as soon as possible. Cheers Mary Mary W S Wong Professor of Law Chair, Graduate IP Programs Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAW Two White Street Concord, NH 03301 USA Email: mary.wong@law.unh.edu<mailto:mary.wong@law.unh.edu> Phone: 1-603-513-5143 Webpage: http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.php Selected writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: http://ssrn.com/author=437584
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Stéphane Van Gelder<stephane.vangelder@indom.com> To: GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> Date: 6/17/2011 5:40 AM Subject: [council] NTIA letter to ICANN Councillors, For those of you that haven't seen this, here is a link to the letter NTIA has sent to ICANN re the new gTLD program. http://www.icann.org/en/correspondence/strickling-to-dengate-thrush-16jun11-... This is one of the topics that we could discuss during our Saturday morning session, if there is interest in doing so. Stéphane
Just to add to your discussion: please don't forget that this is being proposed for that hour we had set aside for open conversation, not official action. Don't know if that helps in the context of what you two are discussing... Stéphane Le 17 juin 2011 à 12:04, Adrian Kinderis a écrit :
If the USG had not have sent that letter would we have felt the need to “re-open” the discussion?
As you have said, we already tried and got nowhere. What has changed?
I believe it is up to the Board to determine if this is an issue. We don’t take direction from any one government last time I checked. I won’t even ask if the GNSO Council would want immediate discussions if the Australian Government sent an letter of the same ilk...
I am not interested in re-opening any debate or discussion and strongly suggest the GNSO Council observe and move on.
Adrian Kinderis
From: Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu [mailto:Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu] Sent: Friday, 17 June 2011 5:57 PM To: Adrian Kinderis; GNSO Council List Subject: RE: [council] NTIA letter to ICANN
I agree we won't be in a position to respond at the moment, and certainly not in the next week, but my thought was: (1) given that we'd had a WG looking at the issue which reached no consensus, the Council as managers could (should?) at least start a discussion as to whether or not to re-open the issue within the GNSO community; and (2) in view of its potential implications for the new gTLD program, if we do decide to start discussing it, it might be useful to do so ahead of the special Board meeting on Monday.
Cheers Mary
Mary W S Wong Professor of Law Chair, Graduate IP Programs Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAW Two White Street Concord, NH 03301 USA Email: mary.wong@law.unh.edu Phone: 1-603-513-5143 Webpage: http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.php Selected writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: http://ssrn.com/author=437584
From: Adrian Kinderis <adrian@ausregistry.com.au> To: "Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu" <Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu>, GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> Date: 6/17/2011 5:49 AM Subject: RE: [council] NTIA letter to ICANN I am not sure to what end?
Why would we discuss this?
Haven’t we already got a full agenda? Why is this particular letter so important. I am not convinced the GNSO Council is in a position to respond nor assist here...
Adrian Kinderis
From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu Sent: Friday, 17 June 2011 5:45 PM To: GNSO Council List Subject: Re: [council] NTIA letter to ICANN
Despite the unfortunate timing (16 June) I think this is an important development and support discussing it on Saturday. We may need to have a follow up discussion, but it would be good to have at least an initial conversation as soon as possible.
Cheers Mary
Mary W S Wong Professor of Law Chair, Graduate IP Programs Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAW Two White Street Concord, NH 03301 USA Email: mary.wong@law.unh.edu Phone: 1-603-513-5143 Webpage: http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.php Selected writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: http://ssrn.com/author=437584
From: Stéphane Van Gelder<stephane.vangelder@indom.com> To: GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> Date: 6/17/2011 5:40 AM Subject: [council] NTIA letter to ICANN Councillors,
For those of you that haven't seen this, here is a link to the letter NTIA has sent to ICANN re the new gTLD program.
http://www.icann.org/en/correspondence/strickling-to-dengate-thrush-16jun11-...
This is one of the topics that we could discuss during our Saturday morning session, if there is interest in doing so.
Stéphane
As much as I disagree with the letter's assumptions and conclusions, and believe this letter impacts Neustar probably more than any other party, I agree with Adrian that this is and should not be an issue for the GNSO to discuss in any formal meeting. If we want to chat away about it during dinner, drinks, happy hour, etc., I would be happy to give you my thoughts. But, lets reserve that hour for items that we can control for now. Jeffrey J. Neuman Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy Please note new address: 21575 Ridgetop Circle, Sterling VA 20166 ________________________________ The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you have received this e-mail message in error and any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and delete the original message. From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 6:12 PM To: Adrian Kinderis Cc: Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu; GNSO Council List Subject: Re: [council] NTIA letter to ICANN Just to add to your discussion: please don't forget that this is being proposed for that hour we had set aside for open conversation, not official action. Don't know if that helps in the context of what you two are discussing... Stéphane Le 17 juin 2011 à 12:04, Adrian Kinderis a écrit : If the USG had not have sent that letter would we have felt the need to "re-open" the discussion? As you have said, we already tried and got nowhere. What has changed? I believe it is up to the Board to determine if this is an issue. We don't take direction from any one government last time I checked. I won't even ask if the GNSO Council would want immediate discussions if the Australian Government sent an letter of the same ilk... I am not interested in re-opening any debate or discussion and strongly suggest the GNSO Council observe and move on. Adrian Kinderis From: Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu<mailto:Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu> [mailto:Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu] Sent: Friday, 17 June 2011 5:57 PM To: Adrian Kinderis; GNSO Council List Subject: RE: [council] NTIA letter to ICANN I agree we won't be in a position to respond at the moment, and certainly not in the next week, but my thought was: (1) given that we'd had a WG looking at the issue which reached no consensus, the Council as managers could (should?) at least start a discussion as to whether or not to re-open the issue within the GNSO community; and (2) in view of its potential implications for the new gTLD program, if we do decide to start discussing it, it might be useful to do so ahead of the special Board meeting on Monday. Cheers Mary Mary W S Wong Professor of Law Chair, Graduate IP Programs Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAW Two White Street Concord, NH 03301 USA Email: mary.wong@law.unh.edu<mailto:mary.wong@law.unh.edu> Phone: 1-603-513-5143 Webpage: http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.php Selected writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: http://ssrn.com/author=437584
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Adrian Kinderis <adrian@ausregistry.com.au<mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au>> To: "Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu<mailto:Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu>" <Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu<mailto:Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu>>, GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Date: 6/17/2011 5:49 AM Subject: RE: [council] NTIA letter to ICANN I am not sure to what end? Why would we discuss this? Haven't we already got a full agenda? Why is this particular letter so important. I am not convinced the GNSO Council is in a position to respond nor assist here... Adrian Kinderis From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org> [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu<mailto:Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu> Sent: Friday, 17 June 2011 5:45 PM To: GNSO Council List Subject: Re: [council] NTIA letter to ICANN Despite the unfortunate timing (16 June) I think this is an important development and support discussing it on Saturday. We may need to have a follow up discussion, but it would be good to have at least an initial conversation as soon as possible. Cheers Mary Mary W S Wong Professor of Law Chair, Graduate IP Programs Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAW Two White Street Concord, NH 03301 USA Email: mary.wong@law.unh.edu<mailto:mary.wong@law.unh.edu> Phone: 1-603-513-5143 Webpage: http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.php Selected writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: http://ssrn.com/author=437584
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Stéphane Van Gelder<stephane.vangelder@indom.com<mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com>> To: GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Date: 6/17/2011 5:40 AM Subject: [council] NTIA letter to ICANN Councillors, For those of you that haven't seen this, here is a link to the letter NTIA has sent to ICANN re the new gTLD program. http://www.icann.org/en/correspondence/strickling-to-dengate-thrush-16jun11-... This is one of the topics that we could discuss during our Saturday morning session, if there is interest in doing so. Stéphane
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