Draft minutes of the Minutes of the GNSO Council Meeting 24 August 2023

Dear Councilors, Attached, please find the draft minutes of the GNSO Council Meeting held on 24 August 2023. If there are no comments, these minutes will be published on the website as approved, according to the GNSO Rules of Procedure <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_counc...> section 3.5 "If no objections are received within 10 days, the minutes will be deemed to have been approved for posting" on 09 September 2023 Thank you. Kind Regards, Devan

Hi Devan, Thanks for this. I have only 2 comments:- 1. At page 4:
Justine Chew, ALAC Liaison, shared that she has no problems with Preamble 6 and suggested using the tree hyperlinks to show the three different versions of the motion document.
I know I said "Preamble 6" clause that's what I call it, but it now appears to me that, "Whereas Clause 6" would be a more recognizable phrase. Further, I believe some clarity would be useful in referring to "the motion document". So, my proposed amendments would be: *Justine Chew, ALAC Liaison*, shared that she has no problems with Preamble Whereas Clause 6 and suggested using the three hyperlinks in Whereas Clause 7, Whereas Clause 8 and Resolved Clause 1 in the motion to show reflect the three different versions of the Clarifying Statement, from draft, amended redline, to final, motion document in order to address.*Jeffrey Neuman, GNSO Liaison to the GAC*'s point about needing to preserve the history of this topic. 2. At page 8
*Susan Payne, IPC*, explained that it might exclude willing participants to make participation in SubPro Working Group a requirement, and explained that it is a requirement to read all of the SubPro documentation including the Initial Report and Final Report. Susan Payne, IPC, also suggested inviting constituencies or stakeholder groups to suggest someone join the small team instead of their councilor.
I think the word "previous" is missing from the first line; perhaps it should be "....make previous participation in SubPro Working Group ...."? I will, however, happily defer to Susan on this. Thanks, Justine On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 at 03:14, Devan Reed via council <council@gnso.icann.org> wrote:
Dear Councilors,
Attached, please find the draft minutes of the GNSO Council Meeting held on 24 August 2023.
If there are no comments, these minutes will be published on the website as approved, according to the GNSO Rules of Procedure <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_counc...> section 3.5 "If no objections are received within 10 days, the minutes will be deemed to have been approved for posting" on *09 September 2023*
Thank you.
Kind Regards,
Devan
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Thanks Devan - in Item 7 Paul has an intervention which contains as statement that the Section 16 process is a process whereby a Supplemental Recommendation is brought to the Community. I think there is a difference in the procedure under Supplemental Recommendation and a Section 16 recommendation. Therefore, I would suggest you strike the word, "supplemental" from the explanation provided in relation to Section 16. The reference to be deleted is in bold below: "...The options available are to just let the recommendation die, to put together a Supplemental Recommendation, or to do a Section 16 process, which is where a (delete *supplemental )*recommendation is taken to the community and hopefully becomes something acceptable to the Board. ..." Again, the Supplemental Recommendation process is different from the Section 16 process in form, though, as Marika has pointed out, community involvement can be a feature of either one. In this regard, I would also recommend that "Supplemental Recommendation" have initial caps and that "Section 16" have an initial cap throughout the minutes. Thank you, Anne Anne Aikman-Scalese GNSO Councilor NomCom Non-Voting 2022-2024 anneicanngnso@gmail.com On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 12:14 PM Devan Reed via council < council@gnso.icann.org> wrote:
Dear Councilors,
Attached, please find the draft minutes of the GNSO Council Meeting held on 24 August 2023.
If there are no comments, these minutes will be published on the website as approved, according to the GNSO Rules of Procedure <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_counc...> section 3.5 "If no objections are received within 10 days, the minutes will be deemed to have been approved for posting" on *09 September 2023*
Thank you.
Kind Regards,
Devan
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Thank you Devan: I think (unless others have a different recollection) my intervention in the closed generics discussion: Kurt Pritz, RySG, commented that this niche issue has taken up hundreds of hours of community time rather than on discussions about Web 3.0, UN discussions on internet governance, or internet fragmentation. Kurt Pritz, RySG, also commented that the SubPro Final Report was unsure of the status quo regarding Closed Generics, and noted that contradicting the Final Report is inappropraite (sic). Could be, Kurt Pritz, RySG, commented that this niche issue has taken up hundreds of hours of community time rather than on discussions about Web 3.0, UN discussions on internet governance, or internet fragmentation. Kurt Pritz, RySG, also commented that the proposed letter, as written, inappropriately changed the SubPro Final Report recommendations, which left the issue on whether to delegate Closed Generics to the Board. Kurt cited the ICANN staff letter to the Facilitated Discussion team that indicated if the Facilitated discussion did not result in a framework, the issue needed to be decided by the Board. If others have a different or clearer recollection, I welcome comments. Regards, Kurt On 31 Aug 2023, at 5:06 am, Devan Reed via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> wrote: Dear Councilors, Attached, please find the draft minutes of the GNSO Council Meeting held on 24 August 2023. If there are no comments, these minutes will be published on the website as approved, according to the GNSO Rules of Procedure <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_counc...> section 3.5 "If no objections are received within 10 days, the minutes will be deemed to have been approved for posting" on 09 September 2023 Thank you. Kind Regards, Devan <24 August 2023 Minutes of the GNSO Council Meeting .docx>_______________________________________________ council mailing list council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/council _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
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Anne ICANN
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Devan Reed
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Justine Chew
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