On 27/08/2023 11:28, Evan Leibovitch via CPWG wrote:
You speak of the dot-com price increase of $2 over five years, and potential future increases as if they're a bad thing. I come from the opposite PoV, that they're way too cheap. The starting point of my solution is that retail domains should be at least $15 to $25, based on
Just a few points, Evan, Some registrars use a low first year registration fee as a loss-leader and that's why the $9 or below registration fee offers appear. The renewal fee iis typically higher. Not all registrars offer a low new registration fee.
Of course, raising the price will also lower the volume of domain purchases and renewals, which I also think is a Very Good Thing. The
The link between renewals and increased fees is counterintuitive. A higher renewal fee can encourage the registrant to consider the domain name to be worth renewing especially if they have renewed it for a few years previously. (The Sunk Cost fallacy.) The renewal rate of TLDs is also dependent on the economic conditions in country of the registrant. The .COM and other gTLDs may appear to be one single market but they are actually composite markets of a small global market and many country level markets. Even the business model of registrars affects renewal rates of domain names registered through those registrars. This talk of registration fees being too low is all well and good for people in the developed countries with good incomes but it puts those in underserved and developing countries at a serious disadvantage because, in real terms, the cost of a gTLD registration will be a higher percentage of the registrant's income.
status quo means that many sensible domain names are scooped up by speculators whose only "added value" is being in the queue first. I find the domain-resale industry, by and large, at the same ethical level as concert ticket scalpers. And the ticket-scalper analogy is very useful when you look at how ticket prices have skyrocketed for in-demand concerts. Far better for the artist to get the proceeds of that demand-induced price boost than the scalper.
Approximately 9% of the .COM is currently on sale (I run a full gTLD website/IP survey each month as part of the monthly HosterStats Registrars and Resellers report and it breaks down the gTLD websites by some categories. PPC and Sales are two of them.) The domain names that are on sale typically have a higher rate of non-renewal than ordinary domain names. There is a core of domain names that are on sale that will continually renew as they are considered premium domain names. For-sale domain names are often confused with undeveloped domain names that have been parked by the registrars or owners.
Higher domain prices will have negligible effect on domain consumers but I suspect it would have a significant effect on those keeping portfolios of speculative domains. Scores of domains that are of borderline value
It would primarily affect those with lower quality domain names but many of those lower quality domain names would be deleted after a year. Even with domain names parked for the PPC advertising, a similar deletion effect happens with non-performing domain names.
fewer domains. An added bonus from higher fees could be a drop in the purchases of one-time "burner" domains obtained for the purpose of abuse.
Much of this type of DNS Abuse has shifted to some new gTLDs where the first year reg fee is less than $5 or even around $1. The heavy discounting model of some new gTLDs has changed the economics of DNS Abuse. Ironically, it was the classic economic substitution effect where a new gTLD was chosen instead of a legacy gTLD by registrants. It wasn't quite the one envisaged by ICANN.
PS: Don't get me started on the disparity between gTLDs and ccTLDs. ICANN has FOREVER had a responsibility to inform the public what the difference is. - How is dot-com different from dot-co? - Why is there still a dot-su TLD? - Is my use of bit.ly <http://bit.ly> for URL shortening really sending my data through Libya? - Why can I buy a .me domain if I don't live in Montenegro?
The ccTLDs got a credibility boost in the mid to late 2000s when ICANN delayed taking any action on Domain Tasting until it was too late. Over 1,000,000,000 .COM domain names were registered and deleted during large-scale Domain Tasting period. Arguably, Domain Tasting created the appearance of a demand for new gTLDs because people could not register the domain names they wanted in .COM/NET/ORG as most of the good deleting domain names were being immediately reregistered by drop catcher registrars (the majority of ICANN registrars are still drop catch registrars that do not sell directly to the public). When there was legal action taken against some of the main registrars involved in Domain Tasting, Google decided to stop monetising these five day Add Grace Period domain names, and ICANN finally added a "restocking" fee on AGP deletions, the large-scale Domain Tasting business collapsed. Much of the demand for new gTLDs disappeared too but the ICANN train was trundling down the tracks to the 2012 round launch. ICANN's projections for the first year registration volume for the new gTLDs were badly wrong. Registrants in countries outside of the US shifted to their local ccTLD because they found that they could register the domain name they wanted in their local ccTLD. The effect of this was severe for the gTLDs in that some of the legacy gTLDs like .NET/ORG/BIZ/INFO are now at replacement level in various countries where the ccTLD is the first choice TLD. The new registrations in the local ccTLDs often outnumber those in .COM (locally) by 2:1 or more. The ccTLD regisries and registrars are often very good at catering for their own markets. I'm not sure how ICANN educating people about the differences between gTLDs and ccTLDs would be perceived in ccTLD markets. Education may be good but it is a big world. The typical registrant may not even know that ICANN exists. The ccTLD community might not be so eager to see ICANN intruding. For many of the developed ccTLD markets, it is way too late for ICANN to try anything like that. The people in some of the countries that are ccTLD-positive now consider their local ccTLD to be *their* TLD in a way that .COM is not. The Internet (the domain name registration part of it) went local. The main driver in .COM, and the other legacy gTLD markets is the US market as the .COM is, in reality, the de facto US ccTLD. The market changed but ICANN's reactive nature was too slow to adapt and that's why the more nimble ccTLDs took over their markets eventhough .COM is still the global king of TLDs. The antitrust issues are very important but the market has changed in the last few years and growth in .COM has almost plateaued for the last two years. Getting rid of speculation or PPC is not going to solve that. This isn't the 1990s market from which ICANN emerged. The decision to allow registries to own and operate registrars a few years ago may have unintentionally created some possible antitrust issues if pricing is being discussed amongst registrars and the registry's registrar(s) is part of such a conversation. Regards...jmcc -- ********************************************************** John McCormac * e-mail: jmcc@hosterstats.com MC2 * web: http://www.hosterstats.com/ 22 Viewmount * Domain Registrations Statistics Waterford * Domnomics - the business of domain names Ireland * https://amzn.to/2OPtEIO IE * Skype: hosterstats.com ********************************************************** -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com