David, unfortunately, I think you are misusing my claim of "uniqueness." I go on to say that we should "borrow heavily from the "playbooks" of existing non-profits and private companies (whether publicly-traded or not), [but]their solutions will need to be customized (more or less) to suit our situation." And as I've stated to Olivier, I think we have a great deal to learn from corporate governance methods for "for profit" companies as well as non-profits. I think Chuck is using Verisign because he is familiar with it -- not because it is a unique paragon of corporate accountability. We can substitute another company from another country with basically the same result. These type of non-substantive arguments really take us away from the actual pros and cons of ideas and proposals.-- that is the real "red herring" problem to me, and we seem to be accumulating enough red herrings to open a *Hollandse nieuwe haring* stand in Amsterdam.... On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 4:23 PM, David Conrad <david.conrad@icann.org> wrote:
Chuck,
But I also do not see the value in arguing back and forth with regard to specific organizational failures except to illustrate why the community wants to ensure that ICANN accountability minimizes the risks of those kinds of failures.
To be honest, given ICANN's uniqueness as mentioned by Greg, I don't see a lot of value or relevance in asserting accountability associated with Verisign's for-profit company status -- it all seems like a big red herring to me.
You apparently think that ICANN's accountability measures are sufficient;
Actually, I have made no such assertion. As stated, I'm just a technical person and all this accountability stuff is beyond me. What I do object to, however, are the statements by yourself, Milton, and others that imply that ICANN is operating in an accountability vacuum. I have no doubt ICANN's accountability can be improved, but ICANN does have a number of accountability measures and besides, isn't that the task of a different group?
Regards, -drc
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