Jan. 25, 2016
11:30 a.m.
Dusan, Of course, we will support the work of the Cyrillic Generation Panel. Most of us might be silent at times (or even longer times :)) but we all have committed to achieve success in this work. You know, sometimes things happen very slow. I am glad you accepted to be chairing our work and in a way I expect that you push us all around. As Nelly suggested a central part in our work should be the work plan. We should often re-distribute it and mark where we are. Perhaps a good idea is to add all of the resources we maintain/use to the web page. All links to various historical documents, presentations, sessions etc. While we might work primarily via the mailing list it is always good idea to have the relevant and up to date information at one place, so that members not be put away by the need to walk trough tons of correspondence etc. For the conference calls I would propose invitations be sent earlier. Sometimes people travel and 3 days might be too short of a notice. It is in fact better to have a calendar for the calls, of course also available via common interface (the site, and also downloadable in various formats). Hope this helps a bit. Best Regards, Daniel Kalchev Register.BG > On 23.01.2016 г., at 11:14, Dusan Stojicevic <dusan@dukes.in.rs> wrote: > > Dear all, > > First, Sarmad, thank You very much! > > According to this, we have 26 subscribers. Without Alexandra, Sarmad and > Michael from ICANN, the number is 23. > According to our Proposal, we have 24 members. > From more than few people, there is no single mail on the list, and they > are not included in the Proposal list. > > So, there is a change in number of participants and we need to see who > is willing to participate further. Again, I would like to kindly ask You > to send one e-mail regarding Your participation. Thank You in advance! > > As I promised, next mail about the work and resources... > > After all, we done some things and thanks to some of the members, things > are going further. But, next question is about the way we are doing > things, and I kindly ask for Your comments. > > First, for all of you, like a reminder, I listed some resources (be free > to add more)> > > a) mailing list archive - http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/cyrillicgp/ <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/cyrillicgp/> > b) Dropbox - According to my Dropbox settings, we have 24 people with > access. If You don't have access to our folder, please, send email to > the list and Sarmad will invite You to dropbox. Keep in mind that it's > not always the case that mailing address that You use for Dropbox is the > same as for this mailing list. > c) web site > (https://community.icann.org/display/croscomlgrprocedure/Cyrillic+Script+GP <https://community.icann.org/display/croscomlgrprocedure/Cyrillic+Script+GP>) > - I think we need to refresh the page, at least with current list of > members. > d) More documents which I find very useful for our work - > https://community.icann.org/display/croscomlgrprocedure/Document+Repository <https://community.icann.org/display/croscomlgrprocedure/Document+Repository> > e) history links > http://singapore52.icann.org/en/schedule/wed-lgr/presentation-idn-root-zone-lgr-workshop-11feb15-en.pdf <http://singapore52.icann.org/en/schedule/wed-lgr/presentation-idn-root-zone-lgr-workshop-11feb15-en.pdf> > f) Other important resources > https://www.ethnologue.com/about/language-status <https://www.ethnologue.com/about/language-status> > https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2-2015-04-27-en <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2-2015-04-27-en> > > In the future, to avoid problems that we had in the past, I kindly > suggest some simple rules and this is also open for your comments> > > 1. MAIN CHANNEL> We are using mailing list as a main channel of > communication. Whenever You put something into Dropbox (or any other > channel / gdocs, or something similar), please inform us on the mailing > list. Any changes, discussion items, work products ... should be sent to > the mailing list. > 2. SWG> You are taking part of small working groups (SWG) by your native > language and script. You can always indicate that You like to join > another SWG. SWG are working by using our mailing list / look at the rule 1. > 3. CONF. CALLS> The group will decide on the next meeting how often will > have regular conference calls (we have agreed about 15 days...). Every > conference call invitation must be sent minimum 3 days before. To > schedule non-regular conference call we will use "doodle poll". > 4. Rough concensus is a must for a decision of GP. > > Hope this was helpful. Please feel free to comment. > Your thoughts are welcome! > > Next mail will be about the working plan. > > Cheers, > Dusan > > > On 23.1.2016 7:47, Sarmad Hussain wrote: >> Dear All, >> >> Currently the following people are subscribed to this list. More details at https://community.icann.org/display/croscomlgrprocedure/Cyrillic+Script+GP <https://community.icann.org/display/croscomlgrprocedure/Cyrillic+Script+GP>. >> >> ceo at uanic.net <http://uanic.net/> (Yuriy) >> michael.yakushev at icann.org <http://icann.org/> (Michael Yakushev) >> sergey at tutby.com <http://tutby.com/> >> kalend at tcinet.ru <http://tcinet.ru/> >> y.morenets at againstcybercrime.eu <http://againstcybercrime.eu/> (Yuliya Morenets ) >> sarmad.hussain at icann.org <http://icann.org/> >> sanja.simonova at marnet.mk (Sanja Simonova) >> dusan at dukes.in.rs <http://dukes.in.rs/> (Dusan Stojicevic) >> bakenov at gmail.com <http://gmail.com/> >> subbiah at i-dns.net <http://i-dns.net/> >> a.sozon at gmail.com <http://gmail.com/> >> Dk at hostmaster.ua <http://hostmaster.ua/> (Dmitry Kohmanyuk) >> stoyanova.nelly at gmail.com <http://gmail.com/> (Nelly Stoyanova) >> info at vlad.tel (Vladimir Shadrunov) >> yvk at uanic.info <http://uanic.info/> (Yuriy Kargapolov) >> iliya.bazlyankov at corenic.org <http://corenic.org/> (Iliya Bazlyankov) >> h at tutby.com <http://tutby.com/> (Alex Khmyl) >> daniel at digsys.bg (Daniel Kalchev) >> patrick.jones at icann.org <http://icann.org/> (Patrick Jones) >> danko.jevtovic at rnids.rs <http://rnids.rs/> (Danko Jevtovic) >> mirjana.tasic at rnids.rs <http://rnids.rs/> (Mirjana Tasic) >> enkhbold at datacom.mn (Enkhbold Gombo) >> alexandra.kulikova at icann.org <http://icann.org/> (Alexandra Kulikova) >> oleksandr.tsaruk at gmail.com <http://gmail.com/> (Oleksandr Tsaruk) >> yashar.hajiyev at gmail.com (Yashar Hajiyev) >> beldmit at gmail.com (Dmitry Belyavskiy) >> >> >> regards, >> Sarmad >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dusan Stojicevic [mailto:dusan @dukes.in.rs] >> Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 6:29 AM >> To: Vladimir Shadrunov <info @vlad.tel>; Dmitry Kohmanyuk <dk @hostmaster.ua>; cyrillicgp @icann.org; Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain @icann.org> >> Subject: Re: [Cyrillicgp] ODG: Re: organizing a meeting at ICANN 55? >> >> Dear all, >> >> All I can say right now is> I will try to do that, it would be my pleasure and I want to thank Yuriy for all the work and energy. Yuriy, best wishes for all future works and hope to see You soon. >> >> By taking a role of coordinator of GP, I would like to make some clarifications about our work. First, I have strong filing that we need to reset things here and start from the scratch, taking into consideration what we have done already. Inline with that, I would like to kindly ask You to help me find a good working format for us. >> >> WHO IS READY TO PARTICIPATE? >> It was obvious that most of You were silent during this election process, and it makes some doubts for me about this role of coordinator. >> I strongly hope that this behavior will change during the future works. >> My first suggestion is that after year and a half, we need to see how many people is still ready to participate> >> >> a) I would like to kindly ask Sarmad, if it's possible, to send us a list of participants in GP (mailing list members). >> b) I am sending this email also to Vladimir Shadrunov, to kindly invite him to come back and continue the work with us. Vladimir, You were very active member in the past, and I think that we need You. I hope that You'll come back. >> c) I will kindly ask ALL of You to send one short email to the list, expressing Your opinion and current status in this group. In other words, I am asking everyone of you> can You and will You participate? >> Of course, I kindly ask You to be clear about specific conditions for the work in your mail - tell us if there are some limitations or anything crucial about Your participation. >> >> Thank You in advance! >> It will take only 2-3 minutes of your time, and this will be crucial for further adjustment and shaping our working plan. >> >> Next mail will be about our work and resources. >> >> Cheers, >> Dusan >> >> >> >> On 22.1.2016 13:37, Dmitry Kohmanyuk wrote: >>> Agree with his candidacy (I proposed it..) >>> >>> Dusan - are you willing to chair the panel? >>> >>> On 21 січ. 2016 р., at 21:03, Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain @icann.org >>> <mailto:sarmad.hussain @icann.org>> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear All, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We have received only the nomination for Dusan as the chair of the >>>> Panel. As there are no further nominations, if everybody is >>>> agreeable, we can proceed accordingly. If you have any reservations, >>>> please let us know. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Sarmad >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:*cyrillicgp-bounces @icann.org >>>> <mailto:cyrillicgp-bounces @icann.org> >>>> [mailto:cyrillicgp-bounces @icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Dmitry Kohmanyuk >>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 08, 2016 3:57 PM >>>> *To:* Dusan Stojicevic <dusan @dukes.in.rs <mailto:dusan @dukes.in.rs>> >>>> *Cc:* cyrillicgp @icann.org <mailto:cyrillicgp @icann.org> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Cyrillicgp] ODG: Re: organizing a meeting at ICANN 55? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks Dusan. Agreed that two election counters/monitors are better. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Let me nominate you for the chair. >>>> >>>> I propose myself as chair for small WG. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- dk @ >>>> >>>> >>>> On 8 янв. 2016, at 12:01, Dusan Stojicevic <dusan @dukes.in.rs >>>> <mailto:dusan @dukes.in.rs>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Dmitry, all, >>>> Thanks for the input. >>>> For separation: >>>> Today is 8. January - nomination period is until 15. January. >>>> Voting period is until 20. January. >>>> Secret voting: It can be done by anyone who's not candidate. >>>> Sarmad can be the one also, if he's willing to do that. But, >>>> putting only one person in that position is like putting him to >>>> the role of judge and the whole process can be jeopardized. I >>>> suggest Sarmad and Michael to be in that role - by sending email >>>> of voting to both of them. >>>> Of course, we are not electing ceo of icann, and I personally >>>> don't see the benefit in secret voting, but - if You want this >>>> way, ok. >>>> Let's do it, if Sarmad and Michael don't object to the suggestion. >>>> Best, >>>> Dusan >>>> >>>> Poslato sa mog Sony Xperia™ pametnog telefona >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---- Dmitry Kohmanyuk je napisao/la ---- >>>> >>>> Good idea but I suggest separating nominations and voting, and >>>> having voting secret (achievable by emailing it to moderator, >>>> which have to be not a candidate.. I suggest Yuri does it.) >>>> >>>> -- dk @ >>>> >>>>> On 7 янв. 2016, at 21:42, Dusan Stojicevic <dusan @dukes.in.rs >>>> <mailto:dusan @dukes.in.rs>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dear all, >>>>> >>>>> First, I wish You merry Xmas, happy New Year, and all success in >>>> Your >>>>> life and in business. Secondly, I hope that we can be faster in >>>> our GP >>>>> process. >>>>> As Yuriy have stepped down from the position of chair, and I see no >>>>> movement in that direction, I would like to kindly suggest next >>>> steps. >>>>> >>>>> 1. Nomination period >>>>> Timeframe> from now until 15. January. >>>>> Rules> >>>>> Nomination will be done on the list, any candidates can be >>>> suggested by >>>>> the member of the list. Member of the list can nominate two >>>> persons - >>>>> one for Chairman/Coordinator of the GP and second coordinator of his >>>>> small WG, from his region. Any candidate must say that he accept the >>>>> nomination, via mail on the list. >>>>> We need coordinator or chairman of the GP, and also 4 >>>> coordinators of >>>>> small WGs, according to Proposal. >>>>> >>>>> 2. Election period >>>>> Timeframe> in parallel with nomination period, from now until >>>> 20. January. >>>>> Rules> >>>>> Voting is open and public, also on the mailing list via mails. >>>>> Every member of the list can vote for one candidate per role (5 >>>> roles). >>>>> For small WGs coordinators, we will count only member votes from the >>>>> region. Candidate with biggest number of votes is the >>>>> coordinator/chairman for the position. >>>>> >>>>> Around 20th of January, we can have conf call. >>>>> >>>>> What You think about these simple steps? >>>>> Can we go with this rules or You have another suggestions? >>>>> >>>>> And to answer Sarmad's question - Yes, You can book the room. We >>>> will >>>>> have a meeting for sure on Wednesday afternoon. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Dusan >>>>> >>>>>> On 7.1.2016 18:46, Sarmad Hussain wrote: >>>>>> Dear Cyrillic GP members, >>>>>> >>>>>> We are now planningsessionsfor ICANN 55 in >>>> Morocco.WouldCyrillic <http://Morocco.WouldCyrillic> GPwant >>>>>> us to reserve aroomforitsmeeting(we can have remote >>>> participation for >>>>>> members not present in Morocco)? If yes, wouldWednesday >>>> afternoon work >>>>>> (as was scheduled for ICANN54 inDublin)? >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Sarmad >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Cyrillicgp mailing list >>>>>> Cyrillicgp @icann.org <mailto:Cyrillicgp @icann.org> >>>>>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cyrillicgp >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> Ova e-pošta je provjerena na viruse Avast protuvirusnim programom. >>>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Cyrillicgp mailing list >>>>> Cyrillicgp @icann.org <mailto:Cyrillicgp @icann.org> >>>>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cyrillicgp >>>> >> >> --- >> Ova e-pošta je provjerena na viruse Avast protuvirusnim programom. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Cyrillicgp mailing list >> Cyrillicgp@icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cyrillicgp >> > > --- > Ova e-pošta je provjerena na viruse Avast protuvirusnim programom. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> > > _______________________________________________ > Cyrillicgp mailing list > Cyrillicgp@icann.org <mailto:Cyrillicgp@icann.org> > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cyrillicgp <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cyrillicgp>