I have already did exactly same. One can always see "SU-only" symbols. What is the case with USSR is that languages, which were used back when that country existed, could have changed their alphabets, like Tatar; in some cases, they even went to Latin, like Azeri. So we can use SU for reference (like, "what is that language we are looking for?" but it cannot be guaranteed that's changes which happened since 1991 are there; plus, if two languages would use specific characters we would not see that. So my ideal "SU-detailed" table would have list of languages for each character it has. But now it doesn't. -- dk@
On 3 июля 2016, at 18:29, Dusan Stojicevic <dusan@dukes.in.rs> wrote:
Dear all,
Regarding .SU table, without any politics or similar issues, we have some facts to consider: 1. The fact is that .su TLD is alive one 2. The fact is that .su have all Cyrillic letters from ex-USSR 3. The fact is that .su have all Cyrillic letters from today’s Russia Federation (including Tatar, f.e.) 4. The fact is that we don’t have experts in GP for many of Cyrillic languages (including most of today’s languages in RF) 5. The facts is that we need to focus our attention to those languages with EGDS <=4 (https://www.ethnologue.com/about/language-status)
So, my recommendation would be that @dk prepares two combined tables – one with, and other without .su table. As far as I know, it’s not causing You more hard work, Dmitry? Second one would be our working table, and the first one will be our goal – to reach or find the experts with enough knowledge for that languages, so we can use full one with .su table. Any other opinions?
Cheers, Dusan
From: Dmitry Kohmanyuk [mailto:dk@hostmaster.ua] Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2016 4:15 PM To: Dmitry Belyavsky <beldmit@gmail.com> Cc: Dusan Stojicevic <dusan@dukes.in.rs>; CyrillicGP@icann.org Subject: Re: [Cyrillicgp] Mongolia and Kazakhstan
We do not live in USSR and there is no USSRish. If there would be a table for each language than I can add it.
Personally, I think SU domain should not be ever used except as legacy (compare: CS, YU) but that's unrelated.
-- dk@
On 3 июля 2016, at 15:17, Dmitry Belyavsky <beldmit@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Dmitry,
I am not sure that removing the SU table is a good idea. The table was designed to contain all the symbols in Cyrillic scripts used in former USSR. So all of them have a chance to be used in the new gTLDs.
On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Dmitry Kohmanyuk <dk@hostmaster.ua> wrote: Received. I would cross-check with Wikipedia and add to my "combined" table.
Also, I have two proposals:
1) remove SU table (it's not a language, no tag);
2) find expert for Tatar Cyrillic - it is widely used and there is already TATAR gTLD (Latin).
PS don't mind you reminding me by Friday.
-- dk@
On 3 лип. 2016 р., at 00:00, Dusan Stojicevic <dusan@dukes.in.rs> wrote:
Dear all, Dmitry,
In attach You can find tables for Mongolia and Kazakhstan, c/p from IANA repository.
Cheers, Dusan <Mongolia.txt> <kazakhstan.txt> _______________________________________________ Cyrillicgp mailing list Cyrillicgp@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cyrillicgp
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