Thanks for this message, Nenad. Reading the plan, it seems to me that we move on in ussual ways not concentrating enough that we have to focus on internet users, informally organised or in other professional organisations. We should do more in engaging these organisations, like CEPIS and the informatics professional organisations. EuroDIG is an event for individuals but the financing model may discourage some in participating. Special EURALO events at low cost for engaging individuals may be a solution. Best, Erich P.S. As a member of the TF-Bylaws - we are working to allow EURALO activities besides ICANN. ________________________________________ Von: euralo-tf-als-engagement-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [euralo-tf-als-engagement-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] im Auftrag von Nenad Marinkovic [nenad@marinkovic.rs] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. August 2017 04:02 An: 'Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond'; 'EURALO Task Force on ALS Engagement' Betreff: Re: [euralo-tf-als-engagement] Fwd: EURALO Outreach Strategic Plan Dear Olivier, I would like to say that I would be happy to see different plan, on the other hand I am not surprised that plan looks like exactly like it is. There are lot of things to write or say, but I would start with one, do we have some regular EURALO event where we can build some strategy, discuss something that we see like important issue for internet users? Or we are only followers and send comments on issues that ICANN, Registries or the other stakeholder are interested to talk about? Individuals or ALSs, it depends on previous answer. I do not see that any stakeholder is interested for RALOs like organization, but more like individuals and I do not see their support except like support for individuals. Fellowship programs are popular with RIPE, ICANN, EURODIG. ISOC… but they target individuals. So, my opinion is that RALO has better perspective if we find our own ideas, topics and events… Of course, we need more resources, and here we come on main issue, who is interested to support strong RALO or how to become strong on our own way? Education and information on internet technology, applications, business opportunity, digital coins etc. are some of the issues that we should bring closer to internet users. Very indicative was session on ICANN59 – if Internet is public interest, where ALAC participants had so different position, it was obvious that there were only personal attitudes without any conclusion, recommendation on such important issue (btw thanks to Wolf who moderated it). I would like to see the strength of RALOs like organization and then we can find way to attract ALSs and more interest in general. We are internet users, at the end Internet has no sense without us and we do not have representative organization, while the other stakeholder has. We have individuals who participate in the other organization activities. I like MoU with RIPE, like the other RALOs did in their regions, and I would like to recognize their (RIPE, ISOC, ICANN, Governments. EC, EU…) truly support to organization of internet users, not like support to individuals. This email represent my personal message, and is not PlugIn statement like ALS. Sorry for my Serbian English, I hope that everybody can understand it in positive and affirmative way for EURALO development Pozdrav/regards Nenad From: euralo-tf-als-engagement-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:euralo-tf-als-engagement-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond Sent: Tuesday, 15 August, 2017 19:11 To: 'EURALO Task Force on ALS Engagement' Subject: [euralo-tf-als-engagement] Fwd: EURALO Outreach Strategic Plan Dear EURALO Task Force on ALS Engagement, the EURALO Board has not added any further comments to the attached outreach plan. Comments are welcome within the next 24H here too, so we can file this plan by the end of the week. Kindest regards, Olivier -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [Euro-board] EURALO Outreach Strategic Plan Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 21:34:52 +0200 From: Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com><mailto:ocl@gih.com> To: Euro Board <euro-board@atlarge-lists.icann.org><mailto:euro-board@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Dear EURALO Board, please be so kind to find attached the draft EURALO Outreach Strategic Plan. Ideally, as we are late filing this, I'd like to get a quick turnaround of comments from you in the next 24H, so I can email it to file it in the CROP process as soon as possible. Kindest regards, Olivier