Thanks, Nick, I think all the questions conc. ITFS numbers and timedifferences within Europe should be answered now. Best, Wolf Nick Ashton-Hart wrote Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:33:
There is a link at https://st.icann.org/euralo/index.cgi? 17_january_2008 showing the time on that date in several cities - reachable directly at: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?day=17&month=1&year=2...
On 16 Jan 2008, at 16:21, Annette Muehlberg wrote:
practice some german? that happens, when you forget about this stupid list mechanisms and simply presses the "answer" button.
wolf, it would be helpful, like veronica pointed out, if you set a timeline. and inform everybody about possible timedifferences within europe - that helps to make sure that all of us will take part at the same time ;-) best annette
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hallo wolfgang, hast du lust und zeit an unserer telconf teilzunehmen? ciao annette ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" <wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de> To: "Discussion for At-Large Europe" <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org
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Dear all
also from my side welcome back to the business.
I fully support Robertos and Wolfs approach and also the two additional points raised by Anette. We should also now draft a work plan 2008 which should include a. events (also national and sub-regional meerings like related workshops, conferences, meetings etc.) b. thematic papers on ICANN issues (both themes mentioned by ICANN could be the subject of such an "EURALO Thematic Paper Series"
Furthermore, the ICANN Studienkreis will have its 9th meeting in Helsinki, September 4 - 5, 2009. Like in Warsaw (and Prague) we start on Thursday afternoon. So Thursday, September 4, 2008 morning could be used for another EURALO outreach meeting, this time in the Nother part of Europe, the Baltics and Russia.
Best regards
wolfgang
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dear wolf, dear all,
i would like to add two issues: 1. new geo/city tlds: how to make it a win-win situation for governments and users 2. how to deal with the "morality"-issue presented in the last gnso- workshop at the last icann meeting.
i am ready for the tel conf this thursday 16:00 utc. but i doubt that i will make it to geneva in february, but we will see.
warm greetings annette
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanette Hofmann" <jeanette@wzb.eu> To: "Discussion for At-Large Europe" <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org
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Hi everyone,
I am very much in favor of this. One of the issues I would like to see ALAC discuss is registrant representation in DNS regulation. Should domain name registrants perhaps have some beneficiary rights when it comes to registry and registrar contracts or policies?
jeanette
Roberto Gaetano wrote:
Happy New Year.
I have a proposal, that might sound funny to some folks: why don't we plan to do in 2008 some work on policy? After all, that's why ALAC and the RALOs have been created, to provide input to ICANN on policy decisions.
There are plenty of subjects on the table: the modification of the current regime for the Add Grace Period, issues related to domain name tasting, the comments to USG about the JPA, feedback on the Accountabiity and Transparency document, comments solicited by the GNSO about the WhoIs, modification of the geographic regions, and more.
The ALAC Review is starting. It would be very embarassing if the reviewers find out that all what has been done is some basic administration, organization of meetings, participation to IGF, etc., but no substantive contribution to the policy making process. One might wonder whether the money that ICANN is putting into this process is not wasted?!?
Cheers, Roberto
-----Original Message----- From: euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Wolf Ludwig Sent: Monday, 14 January 2008 03:19 To: 'Discussion for At-Large Europe' Subject: [EURO-Discuss] Project appeal + Date/Time for Tel. Conference
Dear all,
first of all, I wish you all the best for the New Year! And the change of year is always a good opportunity to strike a balance on the precedent one: After an almost fulminate start and debate around the creation of EURALO our RALO and its list fall in agony at the second part of last year. There were some signs and expressions of frustration and it seems to be difficult to define and find a way out of this prevailing silence.
Thanks to Sébastien who took the initiative a week ago we have to make another effort now - to restart with a telephone conference at least. After a phone call I had with Sébastien, we both believe there is a unique chance for EURALO ahead that we cannot miss. Thanks to Sébastien and some RALO-friends from North America, there was this great idea and project of a User's Summit to be organised and held along the ICANN meeting this summer in Paris - as one of the outcomes of the LA meeting in autumn 07.
This project offers a real and unique chance for us to re-animate and revitalize our cause, commitments and legitimacy. Some of us (Sébastien, Wolfgang, Annette and I etc.) are supposed to participate at ICANN's next meeting in February in New Delhi having a chance to discuss and elaborate some more planning and organisational details there. What we do need is not much: Three to five people from EURALO (or even more), besides Sébastien, Annette and me, to take the initiative and to establish an EURALO organisational committee (OC) for the User's Summit.
Almost immediately after ICANN's New Delhi meeting there is another IGF-preparatory consultation meeting foreseen in Geneva (26 - 28 Feb. 08) offering an opportunity for some more of us (Jeanette, Bill, Karen) to meet in Geneva - as a combined board and OC meeting. Such a prep. meeting in Geneva, let's say on Monday 25 February, will be easy to organize there - and I will try to find some sponsoring money for it if needed. The main goal and outcome of it would be a concise draft of project for the User's Summit in summer. After such a prep. meeting we would have about four months to get the work done on a common EURALO project. And thereby we could hopefully revitalize and strengthen EURALO's capacities (-- otherwise I cannot imagine any other way out for EURALO's future).
Please let us know your ideas about this appeal and who is interested to work with Sébastien, Annette and me on this project.
According to Sébastien's Doodle-Survey the best date and time for our Phone Conference is Thursday 17 January 2008 at 16h00 UTC (= 17h Paris time). I would kindly like to ask Nick to care about the necessary arrangements for this Tel-Conf. next Thursday (Thanks!)
Best regards, Wolf
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