Hi Michael, Dennis, all, FWIW and while I appreciate it may interject some time repercussions, if only to avoid issues popping up later, I would also find a walkthrough of the recommendations - and hearing others' views as we go - useful. Brian ________________________________ From: michael palage.com via Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2024 7:48 PM To: PPSAI IRT members, including observers <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org>; John McCabe <rysg.whoswho@gmail.com> Cc: Dennis Chang <dennis.chang@icann.org>; michael palage.com <michael@palage.com> Subject: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] Re: [Ext] Re: Re: IRT Task 20240725b: Provide clarifying questions in IRT Commentable Version of the PPSAI PDP Final Report (2015) Due 02 Aug 2024 Dennis, I have a clarifying question/concern (yes my attempt at a little IRT humor) on the proposed process of tomorrow's meeting. First, I do not believe that all of my questions, which were submitted in a timely manner, have a recommendation associated with them or which you initially identified as out of scope. Therefore, I feel it would be more beneficial to walk through the entire document, focusing on all the questions, not just those with recommendations. I think it is important that the IRT address all these questions in a timely manner. While I understand that some questions will require further actions by ICANN Org, I believe the entire IRT should have a discussion on these questions. If we only focus on questions that have a recommendation, there's a risk that some important issues might get overlooked. I see some of these questions as gating questions, and I believe they all deserve our attention at the beginning of the process. Just an FYI. While I expect to be on tomorrow’s call, I am currently on jury duty standby and may be called in over the next week. Therefore, I may miss tomorrow’s call which would be unfortunate as I believe I was the primary question/comment submitter. If I will not be able to attend tomorrow’s call, I will send an email to the list after 5 PM ET this evening. Best regards, Michael From: Dennis Chang via Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2024 1:03 PM To: John McCabe <rysg.whoswho@gmail.com>; Dana Kuebler via Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org> Cc: PPSAI IRT members, including observers <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org>; Dennis Chang <dennis.chang@icann.org> Subject: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] Re: [Ext] Re: Re: IRT Task 20240725b: Provide clarifying questions in IRT Commentable Version of the PPSAI PDP Final Report (2015) Due 02 Aug 2024 Glad to hear my reply was helpful to you, John, and I provided a bit of relief too. You actually helped me to realize that I need to do more to communicate on the process so here is more to the whole IRT. Dear IRT, Tomorrow’s IRT call will be focused on clarifying questions. After a brief overview, I plan to walk us down each recommendation (not each question) and pause to discuss where IRT needs a discussion. Please review the Q&A again today as more questions were added potentially needing your reply. Here I am calling on the members from the following group to answer the questions posed to them. 1. PPSAI PDP WG 2. Transfer Policy PDP WG 3. RrSG I am not asking for a Stakeholder position or an official communication from a group but a simple information if you happened to have it. We are looking for efficiency and accuracy of direct communication as much as possible leveraging the collective power of the IRT we have here. To be clear, there are many questions, and we can’t review all of them together on the call. Therefore, I ask everyone to review the Q&A prior to our meeting. If a discussion on a question gets lengthy, I’ll view this as a concern rather than a clarifying question and ask that we take that up on our next calls when we are addressing the concerns. I’ll see you all tomorrow. Thank you for your support. Dennis Chang From: John McCabe <rysg.whoswho@gmail.com<mailto:rysg.whoswho@gmail.com>> Date: Monday, August 5, 2024 at 3:47 PM To: Dennis Chang <dennis.chang@icann.org<mailto:dennis.chang@icann.org>> Cc: "PPSAI IRT members, including observers" <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org<mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org>> Subject: [Ext] Re: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] Re: IRT Task 20240725b: Provide clarifying questions in IRT Commentable Version of the PPSAI PDP Final Report (2015) Due 02 Aug 2024 Thanks for the clarification, Dennis. It was very helpful (and I am relieved!) LOL I'll catch up with you later, but very much appreciate your kind words and reassuring reply. Best regards, John On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 4:23 PM Dennis Chang <dennis.chang@icann.org<mailto:dennis.chang@icann.org>> wrote: Hi John, Thanks for raising this to me to gain clarity on our process. Please feel free to ask at any time. 1. IRT membership is open to anyone at any time; therefore, not too late if other members would like to join to participate directly. 2. There was no call for Stakeholder call for comments. All comments from individual or groups are welcome at this point as you may note from the Commentable document. There will be a time when the Stakeholder Representatives will be asked for action, but this will be made very clear at that time. 3. Yes, the due date for Clarifying Questions on Recommendations is passed but I invite you to make comments on your personal capacity now on specific recommendations language. If members of your group have questions, you may comment also provided that you have clarity on their questions and be able to discuss it as needed. 4. Our goal is to cover all Questions (not Concerns) by Thursday and discuss them as needed on our Thursday IRT call. If we don’t finish, we can continue the effort via the collaborative doc and email. I’ll explain this further at our next IRT meeting. 5. Please note that the IRT Task for Comments on Concerns is due on 18 August 2024, so you still have a couple of weeks. We designed this as sequential steps so that everyone has a common understanding about the recommendation before considering Concerns. I hope this makes it clear that there was no call to action for the Representatives. All work done now is for the IRT members in their own capacity, but their questions may include the questions they received from their stakeholders. All good, I think and I see the comment/reply process on the IRT Commentable working well so far. I look forward to seeing yours. Thanks, Dennis Chang From: John McCabe via Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org<mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org>> Reply-To: "PPSAI IRT members, including observers" <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org<mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org>> Date: Monday, August 5, 2024 at 8:43 AM To: "PPSAI IRT members, including observers" <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org<mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org>> Cc: John McCabe <rysg.whoswho@gmail.com<mailto:rysg.whoswho@gmail.com>> Subject: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] Re: IRT Task 20240725b: Provide clarifying questions in IRT Commentable Version of the PPSAI PDP Final Report (2015) Due 02 Aug 2024 Hi Dennis, I had seen Luc Seufer's comment about offering his input in his personal capacity rather than on behalf of the RrSG. This being my first time representing an SG, it raised a concern on my part as to how to proceed. I just got off a call the Samantha Demitriou, Beth Bacon, Karen Day, and Jeff Neuman (the newly elected Vice Chair Administration) who together briefed me (consistent with Luc's statement that led me to ask.) While I am behind one week in meeting your 2 Aug deadline, I hope that my inexperience won't keep the RySG (and or me) from offering Questions and Comments. If so, please advise, as I understand your link today appears to draw a line under such inputs. We have a RySG call each Wed, and last week I reached out and again circulated the information and URLs (first sent with "still time to join with SOI" notices), and announced that we'd be seeking Questions and Concerns this week. If it's not too late, I'll be sharing three points with the group hoping for a level of RySG consensus (so, if it's too late by now to add to it, I'd appreciate knowing BEFORE our meeting at 11AM EDT on Wed, 7 Aug so I don't waste everybody's time.) My bad. Otherwise, I'll likely be submitting three items for consideration as my own personal questions and comments, and so noted. If you'd like to see the write-up, please let me know and I'll send you the text of what I hope to have reason to share with the RySG members in attendance on Wed. Best regards, John McCabe 212-877-8943 On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 11:48 AM Dennis Chang via Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org<mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org>> wrote: Dear IRT, Thank you for completing the assignment to provide comments of Clarifying Questions. As you’ll see, there were many. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nS5WTk0p79XRT0CcCzByAyH_xn6KMDgElc5F6QSl... [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1nS5WTk0p79XRT...> We are now going through and providing answers to your questions. As I’ve asked, if you see questions, you know the answers to, please don’t hesitate to add your reply. Let’s work as a team to address every question using our collective knowledge and experience. You’ll note that some questions are directed to PPSAI PDP WG; some to the on-going Transfer Policy WG, and there is one to RrSG member. In these cases, we will defer to the members of those groups. We’ll make note of them as we go to get your attention too. Some questions were coded as Question & Concern. In this case, we’ll try to answer the question part and leave the concern discussion for later. The questions should be about the policy recommendation language in the Final Report. Other questions should be addressed at later time. The goal of this task is to gain common understanding of the policy recommendations provided in the Final Report; as written. Thank you all for your contirbution. Dennis Chang From: Dennis Chang via Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org<mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org>> Reply-To: "PPSAI IRT members, including observers" <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org<mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org>> Date: Thursday, July 25, 2024 at 2:22 PM To: Dennis Chang via Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org<mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org>> Cc: Dennis Chang <dennis.chang@icann.org<mailto:dennis.chang@icann.org>> Subject: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] IRT Task 20240725b: Provide clarifying questions in IRT Commentable Version of the PPSAI PDP Final Report (2015) Due 02 Aug 2024 Dear IRT, This is the 2nd task we discussed at the IRT meeting today. Per the instruction given at the meeting and the guideline on working with the Cementable document, ask your Clarifying questions to better understand a recommendation” focused on Section 1.3.1 where you’ll find Recommendations 1 to 21. Please make your comments to start with “1. Question …” to separate from the notable concerns you’ll be asked to make with another task with a later due date. 20240725b Provide clarifying questions in IRT Cementable Version of the PPSAI PDP Final Report (2015) [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1nS5WTk0p79XRT...> 02Aug2024 You’ll note are already comments made at the meeting by the IRT members. When you find questions that you have answers to, please feel free to add as a reply. You may also add follow-up questions as a reply as you have them. We expect that this document will get busy soon, and we plan to collect, sort, and track all comments in the IRT workbook. We’ll let you know how that gets done later. -- Kind Regards, Dennis S. 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