Dear Rudy, I was really just looking for reasons why groups (and there could still be others) may be motivated to provide certain sorts of contact information. As regards legal advice on translated information, I think we can only think about that once we've decided what (if anything) is to be translated. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Dept of Information Studies, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon From: Rudi Vansnick [mailto:rudi.vansnick@isoc.be] Sent: 15 August 2013 11:23 To: Dillon, Chris Cc: Julie Hedlund; gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] FOR REVIEW: Draft PDP WG Charter Dear Julie, Many thanks for the work you already did for this charter, it helps us a lot forward. Unfortunately the week was too short to be able to follow up on the document yet. However, the basis for the call today is here and I hope we will have some more participants, although it is bank holiday today and the start of a long weekend. Chris, With regards your comment I'm not sure whether the following should be in the document, but I am interested in what is driving the need for inclusion of non-ASCII data, probably security considerations. I feel these are relevant, as they may help to motivate whoever ends up providing the additional data required for a new format. For example, there was/is a proposal for a traffic light system in which websites providing certain information could be considered more secure (greener) than those that didn't (redder). I'm afraid we can not argument on what will be presented on a website or in an email as that's far away from the task and duty of ICANN. Content related material should not be considered here. We are only looking into the WHOIS data information, which of course for security reasons should be as correct as possible. When using translated contact details it is possible the address would be unrecognizable for legal perspective and as such disturb the legal processes. For instance, in Belgium, if an address is not correct all legal actions are stopped. And that's most probably in many countries the case. This relates also to the possible models adoptable in this context. And I'm just wondering if we should integrate in the charter some legal advise with regards the use of translated information in contact data ? Rudi Vansnick Chair NPOC Policy Committee - ICANN - www.npoc.org<http://www.npoc.org/> Mobile +32/(0)475/28.16.32 - Tel +32/(0)9/329.39.16 rudi.vansnick@isoc.be<mailto:rudi.vansnick@isoc.be> Op 14-aug.-2013, om 11:33 heeft "Dillon, Chris" <c.dillon@ucl.ac.uk<mailto:c.dillon@ucl.ac.uk>> het volgende geschreven: Dear Julie, It's really great to have this draft so soon and it includes a really good summary of the documents and the procedures now necessary. I'm not sure whether the following should be in the document, but I am interested in what is driving the need for inclusion of non-ASCII data, probably security considerations. I feel these are relevant, as they may help to motivate whoever ends up providing the additional data required for a new format. For example, there was/is a proposal for a traffic light system in which websites providing certain information could be considered more secure (greener) than those that didn't (redder). I was interested to see all five models listed on p.4, but am curious about why one of the models was originally relegated to a note on the last page of 'The final issue report: translation and transliteration of contact information', whereas the other four models were fully developed in the report. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Dept of Information Studies, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon<http://ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon> From: owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org> [mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org>] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund Sent: 14 August 2013 00:04 To: gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] FOR REVIEW: Draft PDP WG Charter Importance: High Dear members of the Charter Drafting Team, Per our actions below from our first meeting, attached you will find a draft charter for your review and for discussion at our next meeting on Thursday, 15 August 1500 UTC (08:00 PDT, 11:00 EDT, 16:00 London, 17:00 CEST). A meeting notification with teleconference information has been sent separately. Actions: 1. Selecting Chair/Co-Chairs: During today's meeting Chris Dillon and Rudi Vansnick volunteered to be co-chairs. Please let us know if others would like to volunteer and/or support Chris and Rudi. 2. Draft Charter: Staff will provide a draft charter for review by COB Tuesday, 13 August. It will be posted in the wiki and in the Adobe Connect room for discussion at the meeting on 15 August. (DONE - attached) Please let me know if you have any questions. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director