Actions: Charter Drafting Team Meeting 08 August 2013
Dear members of the Charter Drafting Team, Please see below the actions from today's meeting. These also are posted to the wiki at: https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/08+August+2013. Our meetings will occur weekly on Thursdays at 1500 UTC (08:00 PDT, 11:00 EDT, 16:00 London, 17:00 CEST). The next meeting is Thursday, 15 August. A meeting notification with teleconference information will be sent separately. Actions: 1. Selecting Chair/Co-Chairs: During today's meeting Chris Dillon and Rudi Vansnick volunteered to be co-chairs. Please let us know if others would like to volunteer and/or support Chris and Rudi. 2. Draft Charter: Staff will provide a draft charter for review by COB Tuesday, 13 August. It will be posted in the wiki and in the Adobe Connect room for discussion at the meeting on 15 August. Please let me know if you have any questions. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
Many thanks already Julie for your perfect assistance and guidance. I'm going to read through the full report again tomorrow and will try to highlight some aspects for the charter. I'll drop them on this list asap. Kind regards, Rudi Vansnick NPOC chair Policy Committee NPOC treasurer rudi.vansnick@isoc.be Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16 Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32 www.npoc.org Op 8-aug.-2013, om 21:31 heeft Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org> het volgende geschreven:
Dear members of the Charter Drafting Team,
Please see below the actions from today's meeting. These also are posted to the wiki at: https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/08+August+2013. Our meetings will occur weekly on Thursdays at 1500 UTC (08:00 PDT, 11:00 EDT, 16:00 London, 17:00 CEST). The next meeting is Thursday, 15 August. A meeting notification with teleconference information will be sent separately.
Actions:
1. Selecting Chair/Co-Chairs: During today's meeting Chris Dillon and Rudi Vansnick volunteered to be co-chairs. Please let us know if others would like to volunteer and/or support Chris and Rudi.
2. Draft Charter: Staff will provide a draft charter for review by COB Tuesday, 13 August. It will be posted in the wiki and in the Adobe Connect room for discussion at the meeting on 15 August.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Best regards, Julie
Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
Rudy, Thank you very much. That will be extremely helpful. You may also wish to look at the background on the issues that was gather from the Final Issue Report. This is on the wiki home page at: https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/Translation+and+Transliteration +of+Contact+Information+PDP+Home. Kind regards, Julie From: Rudi Vansnick <rudi.vansnick@isoc.be> Date: Thursday, August 8, 2013 4:08 PM To: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org> Cc: "gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org" <gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Actions: Charter Drafting Team Meeting 08 August 2013 Many thanks already Julie for your perfect assistance and guidance. I'm going to read through the full report again tomorrow and will try to highlight some aspects for the charter. I'll drop them on this list asap. Kind regards, Rudi Vansnick NPOC chair Policy Committee NPOC treasurer rudi.vansnick@isoc.be Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16 Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32 www.npoc.org <http://www.npoc.org> Op 8-aug.-2013, om 21:31 heeft Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org> het volgende geschreven:
Dear members of the Charter Drafting Team,
Please see below the actions from today's meeting. These also are posted to the wiki at: https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/08+August+2013. Our meetings will occur weekly on Thursdays at 1500 UTC (08:00 PDT, 11:00 EDT, 16:00 London, 17:00 CEST). The next meeting is Thursday, 15 August. A meeting notification with teleconference information will be sent separately.
Actions:
1. Selecting Chair/Co-Chairs: During today's meeting Chris Dillon and Rudi Vansnick volunteered to be co-chairs. Please let us know if others would like to volunteer and/or support Chris and Rudi.
2. Draft Charter: Staff will provide a draft charter for review by COB Tuesday, 13 August. It will be posted in the wiki and in the Adobe Connect room for discussion at the meeting on 15 August.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Best regards, Julie
Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
Dear members of the Charter Drafting Team, Per our actions below from our first meeting, attached you will find a draft charter for your review and for discussion at our next meeting on Thursday, 15 August 1500 UTC (08:00 PDT, 11:00 EDT, 16:00 London, 17:00 CEST). A meeting notification with teleconference information has been sent separately. Actions: 1. Selecting Chair/Co-Chairs: During today's meeting Chris Dillon and Rudi Vansnick volunteered to be co-chairs. Please let us know if others would like to volunteer and/or support Chris and Rudi. 2. Draft Charter: Staff will provide a draft charter for review by COB Tuesday, 13 August. It will be posted in the wiki and in the Adobe Connect room for discussion at the meeting on 15 August. (DONE attached) Please let me know if you have any questions. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
Dear Julie, It's really great to have this draft so soon and it includes a really good summary of the documents and the procedures now necessary. I'm not sure whether the following should be in the document, but I am interested in what is driving the need for inclusion of non-ASCII data, probably security considerations. I feel these are relevant, as they may help to motivate whoever ends up providing the additional data required for a new format. For example, there was/is a proposal for a traffic light system in which websites providing certain information could be considered more secure (greener) than those that didn't (redder). I was interested to see all five models listed on p.4, but am curious about why one of the models was originally relegated to a note on the last page of 'The final issue report: translation and transliteration of contact information', whereas the other four models were fully developed in the report. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Dept of Information Studies, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon From: owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund Sent: 14 August 2013 00:04 To: gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] FOR REVIEW: Draft PDP WG Charter Importance: High Dear members of the Charter Drafting Team, Per our actions below from our first meeting, attached you will find a draft charter for your review and for discussion at our next meeting on Thursday, 15 August 1500 UTC (08:00 PDT, 11:00 EDT, 16:00 London, 17:00 CEST). A meeting notification with teleconference information has been sent separately. Actions: 1. Selecting Chair/Co-Chairs: During today's meeting Chris Dillon and Rudi Vansnick volunteered to be co-chairs. Please let us know if others would like to volunteer and/or support Chris and Rudi. 2. Draft Charter: Staff will provide a draft charter for review by COB Tuesday, 13 August. It will be posted in the wiki and in the Adobe Connect room for discussion at the meeting on 15 August. (DONE - attached) Please let me know if you have any questions. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
Dear Chris, Thank you for your helpful reply. To your first question, the need for inclusion of non-ASCII contact data is to enable those people who use non-ASCII scripts to be able to access those data. For example, if I use the Arabic script, I may still wish to be able to contact the domain name registration owner. If that contact information is only in ASCII script, it may not be accessible to me. If, however, it can appear in a non-ASCII script, then I will be able to see and use the information. The issue in the PDP how should this be accomplished and who should bear the burden. Also, should one simply transliterate the information, or should one also translate it? The IRD-WG didn't address security implications concerning the provision of non-ASCII data, but the Charter DT could decide whether that is in the scope of the work for the PDP-WG. It may be, however, that the issue of security of internationalized registration data in general will be covered under another WG. In particular, there is a WG that is starting up that is tasked with determining the requirements for internationalized registration data (IRD) and producing a data model for IRD. It relates to the task in the Board's Action Plan relating to its 08 November 2012 resolution that directed staff to: 1) task a working group to determine the appropriate internationalized domain name registration data requirements, evaluating any relevant recommendations from the SSAC or GNSO; 2) produce a data model that includes (any) requirements for the translation or transliteration of the registration data, taking into account the results of any PDP initiated by the GNSO on translation/ transliteration, and the standardized replacement protocol under development in the IETF¹s Webbased Extensible Internet Registration Data Working Group; 3) evaluate available solutions (including solutions being implemented by ccTLDs). Thus, the results of the PDP on translation and transliteration of contact information will be considered by this WG. To your second question, the 5th model was suggested not by the IRD-WG but in a comment received in the public form on the preliminary report when it was published. Thus, it was not part one of the models discussed in the original report. I hope that this is helpful. Best regards, Julie From: <Dillon>, Chris <c.dillon@ucl.ac.uk> Date: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 5:33 AM To: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org>, "gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org" <gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: RE: FOR REVIEW: Draft PDP WG Charter Dear Julie, It¹s really great to have this draft so soon and it includes a really good summary of the documents and the procedures now necessary. I¹m not sure whether the following should be in the document, but I am interested in what is driving the need for inclusion of non-ASCII data, probably security considerations. I feel these are relevant, as they may help to motivate whoever ends up providing the additional data required for a new format. For example, there was/is a proposal for a traffic light system in which websites providing certain information could be considered more secure (greener) than those that didn¹t (redder). I was interested to see all five models listed on p.4, but am curious about why one of the models was originally relegated to a note on the last page of The final issue report: translation and transliteration of contact information¹, whereas the other four models were fully developed in the report. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Dept of Information Studies, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon From: owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund Sent: 14 August 2013 00:04 To: gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] FOR REVIEW: Draft PDP WG Charter Importance: High Dear members of the Charter Drafting Team, Per our actions below from our first meeting, attached you will find a draft charter for your review and for discussion at our next meeting on Thursday, 15 August 1500 UTC (08:00 PDT, 11:00 EDT, 16:00 London, 17:00 CEST). A meeting notification with teleconference information has been sent separately. Actions: 1. Selecting Chair/Co-Chairs: During today's meeting Chris Dillon and Rudi Vansnick volunteered to be co-chairs. Please let us know if others would like to volunteer and/or support Chris and Rudi. 2. Draft Charter: Staff will provide a draft charter for review by COB Tuesday, 13 August. It will be posted in the wiki and in the Adobe Connect room for discussion at the meeting on 15 August. (DONE attached) Please let me know if you have any questions. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
Dear Julie, Thank you for clearing that up. It does sound as if the decisions of the other WG could affect this one, if it provides additional motivation for groups to provide non-Roman script data. Regards, Chris. == Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Dept of Information Studies, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon From: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org<mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org>> Date: Wednesday, 14 August 2013 14:39 To: Chris Dillon <c.dillon@ucl.ac.uk<mailto:c.dillon@ucl.ac.uk>> Cc: "gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org>" <gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org>> Subject: Re: FOR REVIEW: Draft PDP WG Charter Dear Chris, Thank you for your helpful reply. To your first question, the need for inclusion of non-ASCII contact data is to enable those people who use non-ASCII scripts to be able to access those data. For example, if I use the Arabic script, I may still wish to be able to contact the domain name registration owner. If that contact information is only in ASCII script, it may not be accessible to me. If, however, it can appear in a non-ASCII script, then I will be able to see and use the information. The issue in the PDP how should this be accomplished and who should bear the burden. Also, should one simply transliterate the information, or should one also translate it? The IRD-WG didn't address security implications concerning the provision of non-ASCII data, but the Charter DT could decide whether that is in the scope of the work for the PDP-WG. It may be, however, that the issue of security of internationalized registration data in general will be covered under another WG. In particular, there is a WG that is starting up that is tasked with determining the requirements for internationalized registration data (IRD) and producing a data model for IRD. It relates to the task in the Board's Action Plan relating to its 08 November 2012 resolution that directed staff to: 1) task a working group to determine the appropriate internationalized domain name registration data requirements, evaluating any relevant recommendations from the SSAC or GNSO; 2) produce a data model that includes (any) requirements for the translation or transliteration of the registration data, taking into account the results of any PDP initiated by the GNSO on translation/ transliteration, and the standardized replacement protocol under development in the IETF’s Webbased Extensible Internet Registration Data Working Group; 3) evaluate available solutions (including solutions being implemented by ccTLDs). Thus, the results of the PDP on translation and transliteration of contact information will be considered by this WG. To your second question, the 5th model was suggested not by the IRD-WG but in a comment received in the public form on the preliminary report when it was published. Thus, it was not part one of the models discussed in the original report. I hope that this is helpful. Best regards, Julie From: <Dillon>, Chris <c.dillon@ucl.ac.uk<mailto:c.dillon@ucl.ac.uk>> Date: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 5:33 AM To: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org<mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org>>, "gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org>" <gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org>> Subject: RE: FOR REVIEW: Draft PDP WG Charter Dear Julie, It’s really great to have this draft so soon and it includes a really good summary of the documents and the procedures now necessary. I’m not sure whether the following should be in the document, but I am interested in what is driving the need for inclusion of non-ASCII data, probably security considerations. I feel these are relevant, as they may help to motivate whoever ends up providing the additional data required for a new format. For example, there was/is a proposal for a traffic light system in which websites providing certain information could be considered more secure (greener) than those that didn’t (redder). I was interested to see all five models listed on p.4, but am curious about why one of the models was originally relegated to a note on the last page of ‘The final issue report: translation and transliteration of contact information’, whereas the other four models were fully developed in the report. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Dept of Information Studies, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon From: owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org> [mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund Sent: 14 August 2013 00:04 To: gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] FOR REVIEW: Draft PDP WG Charter Importance: High Dear members of the Charter Drafting Team, Per our actions below from our first meeting, attached you will find a draft charter for your review and for discussion at our next meeting on Thursday, 15 August 1500 UTC (08:00 PDT, 11:00 EDT, 16:00 London, 17:00 CEST). A meeting notification with teleconference information has been sent separately. Actions: 1. Selecting Chair/Co-Chairs: During today's meeting Chris Dillon and Rudi Vansnick volunteered to be co-chairs. Please let us know if others would like to volunteer and/or support Chris and Rudi. 2. Draft Charter: Staff will provide a draft charter for review by COB Tuesday, 13 August. It will be posted in the wiki and in the Adobe Connect room for discussion at the meeting on 15 August. (DONE — attached) Please let me know if you have any questions. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
Dear Julie, Many thanks for the work you already did for this charter, it helps us a lot forward. Unfortunately the week was too short to be able to follow up on the document yet. However, the basis for the call today is here and I hope we will have some more participants, although it is bank holiday today and the start of a long weekend. Chris, With regards your comment
I’m not sure whether the following should be in the document, but I am interested in what is driving the need for inclusion of non-ASCII data, probably security considerations. I feel these are relevant, as they may help to motivate whoever ends up providing the additional data required for a new format. For example, there was/is a proposal for a traffic light system in which websites providing certain information could be considered more secure (greener) than those that didn’t (redder).
I'm afraid we can not argument on what will be presented on a website or in an email as that's far away from the task and duty of ICANN. Content related material should not be considered here. We are only looking into the WHOIS data information, which of course for security reasons should be as correct as possible. When using translated contact details it is possible the address would be unrecognizable for legal perspective and as such disturb the legal processes. For instance, in Belgium, if an address is not correct all legal actions are stopped. And that's most probably in many countries the case. This relates also to the possible models adoptable in this context. And I'm just wondering if we should integrate in the charter some legal advise with regards the use of translated information in contact data ? Rudi Vansnick Chair NPOC Policy Committee - ICANN - www.npoc.org Mobile +32/(0)475/28.16.32 - Tel +32/(0)9/329.39.16 rudi.vansnick@isoc.be Op 14-aug.-2013, om 11:33 heeft "Dillon, Chris" <c.dillon@ucl.ac.uk> het volgende geschreven:
Dear Julie,
It’s really great to have this draft so soon and it includes a really good summary of the documents and the procedures now necessary.
I’m not sure whether the following should be in the document, but I am interested in what is driving the need for inclusion of non-ASCII data, probably security considerations. I feel these are relevant, as they may help to motivate whoever ends up providing the additional data required for a new format. For example, there was/is a proposal for a traffic light system in which websites providing certain information could be considered more secure (greener) than those that didn’t (redder).
I was interested to see all five models listed on p.4, but am curious about why one of the models was originally relegated to a note on the last page of ‘The final issue report: translation and transliteration of contact information’, whereas the other four models were fully developed in the report.
Regards,
Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Dept of Information Studies, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon
From: owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund Sent: 14 August 2013 00:04 To: gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] FOR REVIEW: Draft PDP WG Charter Importance: High
Dear members of the Charter Drafting Team,
Per our actions below from our first meeting, attached you will find a draft charter for your review and for discussion at our next meeting on Thursday, 15 August 1500 UTC (08:00 PDT, 11:00 EDT, 16:00 London, 17:00 CEST). A meeting notification with teleconference information has been sent separately.
Actions:
1. Selecting Chair/Co-Chairs: During today's meeting Chris Dillon and Rudi Vansnick volunteered to be co-chairs. Please let us know if others would like to volunteer and/or support Chris and Rudi.
2. Draft Charter: Staff will provide a draft charter for review by COB Tuesday, 13 August. It will be posted in the wiki and in the Adobe Connect room for discussion at the meeting on 15 August. (DONE — attached)
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Best regards, Julie
Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
Dear Rudy, I was really just looking for reasons why groups (and there could still be others) may be motivated to provide certain sorts of contact information. As regards legal advice on translated information, I think we can only think about that once we've decided what (if anything) is to be translated. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Dept of Information Studies, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon From: Rudi Vansnick [mailto:rudi.vansnick@isoc.be] Sent: 15 August 2013 11:23 To: Dillon, Chris Cc: Julie Hedlund; gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] FOR REVIEW: Draft PDP WG Charter Dear Julie, Many thanks for the work you already did for this charter, it helps us a lot forward. Unfortunately the week was too short to be able to follow up on the document yet. However, the basis for the call today is here and I hope we will have some more participants, although it is bank holiday today and the start of a long weekend. Chris, With regards your comment I'm not sure whether the following should be in the document, but I am interested in what is driving the need for inclusion of non-ASCII data, probably security considerations. I feel these are relevant, as they may help to motivate whoever ends up providing the additional data required for a new format. For example, there was/is a proposal for a traffic light system in which websites providing certain information could be considered more secure (greener) than those that didn't (redder). I'm afraid we can not argument on what will be presented on a website or in an email as that's far away from the task and duty of ICANN. Content related material should not be considered here. We are only looking into the WHOIS data information, which of course for security reasons should be as correct as possible. When using translated contact details it is possible the address would be unrecognizable for legal perspective and as such disturb the legal processes. For instance, in Belgium, if an address is not correct all legal actions are stopped. And that's most probably in many countries the case. This relates also to the possible models adoptable in this context. And I'm just wondering if we should integrate in the charter some legal advise with regards the use of translated information in contact data ? Rudi Vansnick Chair NPOC Policy Committee - ICANN - www.npoc.org<http://www.npoc.org/> Mobile +32/(0)475/28.16.32 - Tel +32/(0)9/329.39.16 rudi.vansnick@isoc.be<mailto:rudi.vansnick@isoc.be> Op 14-aug.-2013, om 11:33 heeft "Dillon, Chris" <c.dillon@ucl.ac.uk<mailto:c.dillon@ucl.ac.uk>> het volgende geschreven: Dear Julie, It's really great to have this draft so soon and it includes a really good summary of the documents and the procedures now necessary. I'm not sure whether the following should be in the document, but I am interested in what is driving the need for inclusion of non-ASCII data, probably security considerations. I feel these are relevant, as they may help to motivate whoever ends up providing the additional data required for a new format. For example, there was/is a proposal for a traffic light system in which websites providing certain information could be considered more secure (greener) than those that didn't (redder). I was interested to see all five models listed on p.4, but am curious about why one of the models was originally relegated to a note on the last page of 'The final issue report: translation and transliteration of contact information', whereas the other four models were fully developed in the report. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Dept of Information Studies, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon<http://ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon> From: owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org> [mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org>] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund Sent: 14 August 2013 00:04 To: gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] FOR REVIEW: Draft PDP WG Charter Importance: High Dear members of the Charter Drafting Team, Per our actions below from our first meeting, attached you will find a draft charter for your review and for discussion at our next meeting on Thursday, 15 August 1500 UTC (08:00 PDT, 11:00 EDT, 16:00 London, 17:00 CEST). A meeting notification with teleconference information has been sent separately. Actions: 1. Selecting Chair/Co-Chairs: During today's meeting Chris Dillon and Rudi Vansnick volunteered to be co-chairs. Please let us know if others would like to volunteer and/or support Chris and Rudi. 2. Draft Charter: Staff will provide a draft charter for review by COB Tuesday, 13 August. It will be posted in the wiki and in the Adobe Connect room for discussion at the meeting on 15 August. (DONE - attached) Please let me know if you have any questions. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
Dear members of the Charter Drafting Team, Per our actions from our meeting today, attached you will find a revised draft charter for your review and for discussion at our next meeting on Thursday, 22 August 1500 UTC (08:00 PDT, 11:00 EDT, 16:00 London, 17:00 CEST). The changes are reflected as redlines. This also is posted on wiki at: https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/22+August+2013. Please let me know if you have any questions. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
Dear members of the Charter Drafting Team, This is a reminder that per our actions from our meeting that week, attached you will find a revised draft charter for your review and for discussion at our next meeting on Thursday, 22 August 1500 UTC (08:00 PDT, 11:00 EDT, 16:00 London, 17:00 CEST). The changes are reflected as redlines. This also is posted on wiki at: https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/22+August+2013. Please let me know if you have any questions. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
Dear colleagues, Julie's drafting is difficult to improve. However, I wonder if it would be good to have a line explicitly indicating that the PDP WG will be free to modify the five alternatives in Section II, effectively creating a sixth one which is recommended/preferred. Beyond that my mind is starting to think about translation/transliteration principles for the representation of contact details (rather than notes for so many languages), but that is probably best left to the PDP WG. An example of a principle might be the answer to the question "What happens if there is more than one Romanization (transliteration) for a language in common use?". Looking forward to speaking later, Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Dept of Information Studies, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon From: owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund Sent: 21 August 2013 20:05 To: gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] REMINDER FOR REVIEW: Revised Draft PDP WG Charter Importance: High Dear members of the Charter Drafting Team, This is a reminder that per our actions from our meeting that week, attached you will find a revised draft charter for your review and for discussion at our next meeting on Thursday, 22 August 1500 UTC (08:00 PDT, 11:00 EDT, 16:00 London, 17:00 CEST). The changes are reflected as redlines. This also is posted on wiki at: https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/22+August+2013. Please let me know if you have any questions. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
Dear Chris, As you said the document drafted by Julie is great and is not easy to improve. All is covered as far as I understand the principles of the duty of the draft team. It is up to the WG to elaborate responses to the given questions and issues. I would let the WG decide if they want to extend the 5 present models. It would require some investigation for us to define a sixth model, that perhaps was already discussed previously and was not withhold. Interesting sample question ... a lot to discuss but isn't that the duty of the WG ? We are only the charter drafting team ... Till later today. Rudi Vansnick Chair NPOC Policy Committee - ICANN - www.npoc.org Mobile +32/(0)475/28.16.32 - Tel +32/(0)9/329.39.16 rudi.vansnick@isoc.be Op 22-aug.-2013, om 09:12 heeft "Dillon, Chris" <c.dillon@ucl.ac.uk> het volgende geschreven:
Dear colleagues,
Julie’s drafting is difficult to improve. However, I wonder if it would be good to have a line explicitly indicating that the PDP WG will be free to modify the five alternatives in Section II, effectively creating a sixth one which is recommended/preferred.
Beyond that my mind is starting to think about translation/transliteration principles for the representation of contact details (rather than notes for so many languages), but that is probably best left to the PDP WG. An example of a principle might be the answer to the question “What happens if there is more than one Romanization (transliteration) for a language in common use?”.
Looking forward to speaking later,
Regards,
Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Dept of Information Studies, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599)ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon
From: owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund Sent: 21 August 2013 20:05 To: gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] REMINDER FOR REVIEW: Revised Draft PDP WG Charter Importance: High
Dear members of the Charter Drafting Team,
This is a reminder that per our actions from our meeting that week, attached you will find a revised draft charter for your review and for discussion at our next meeting on Thursday, 22 August 1500 UTC (08:00 PDT, 11:00 EDT, 16:00 London, 17:00 CEST). The changes are reflected as redlines. This also is posted on wiki at: https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/22+August+2013.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Best regards, Julie
Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
Dear Chris, Greetings of the day!!! As discussed in the previous meeting regarding the "Legal Issues"- raised by Rudi, the conclusion we arrived was, we may get legal advice from lCANN legal team. But I think we need to discuss in elaborate the mechanism that could be worked on to address the legal issues by PDP team. For further details regarding the legal implications that would arise during the Translation and Transliteration process : Refer paragraph 4 on page number 16 of the document: http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/ird/final-report-ird-wg-07may12-en.pdf Regards, Vinay Kumar Singh Student: LL.B. with Honors in Intellectual Property Indian Institute of Technology, Kharagpur India Mobile: +91 8509 227 666 Subject: Re: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] RE: REMINDER FOR REVIEW: Revised Draft PDP WG Charter From: rudi.vansnick@isoc.be Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 10:36:18 +0200 CC: julie.hedlund@icann.org; gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org To: c.dillon@ucl.ac.uk Dear Chris, As you said the document drafted by Julie is great and is not easy to improve. All is covered as far as I understand the principles of the duty of the draft team. It is up to the WG to elaborate responses to the given questions and issues. I would let the WG decide if they want to extend the 5 present models. It would require some investigation for us to define a sixth model, that perhaps was already discussed previously and was not withhold. Interesting sample question ... a lot to discuss but isn't that the duty of the WG ? We are only the charter drafting team ... Till later today. Rudi Vansnick Chair NPOC Policy Committee - ICANN - www.npoc.org Mobile +32/(0)475/28.16.32 - Tel +32/(0)9/329.39.16 rudi.vansnick@isoc.be Op 22-aug.-2013, om 09:12 heeft "Dillon, Chris" <c.dillon@ucl.ac.uk> het volgende geschreven:Dear colleagues, Julie’s drafting is difficult to improve.However, I wonder if it would be good to have a line explicitly indicating that the PDP WG will be free to modify the five alternatives in Section II, effectively creating a sixth one which is recommended/preferred. Beyond that my mind is starting to think about translation/transliteration principles for the representation of contact details (rather than notes for so many languages), but that is probably best left to the PDP WG. An example of a principle might be the answer to the question “What happens if there is more than one Romanization (transliteration) for a language in common use?”. Looking forward to speaking later, Regards, Chris.--Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Dept of Information Studies, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599)ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon From: owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund Sent: 21 August 2013 20:05 To: gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] REMINDER FOR REVIEW: Revised Draft PDP WG Charter Importance: High Dear members of the Charter Drafting Team, This is a reminder that per our actions from our meeting that week, attached you will find a revised draft charter for your review and for discussion at our next meeting on Thursday, 22 August 1500 UTC (08:00 PDT, 11:00 EDT, 16:00 London, 17:00 CEST). The changes are reflected as redlines. This also is posted on wiki at: https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/22+August+2013. Please let me know if you have any questions. Best regards,Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
Dear Vinay, I think the PDP WG should consult the ICANN legal team over issues such as what constitutes a legal address - is that the example you meant? (It's on p.13.) I also think they need to decide how that is going to work. I'm slightly reluctant to tread on their toes. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Dept of Information Studies, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon From: owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org] On Behalf Of vinay kumar singh Sent: 22 August 2013 13:01 To: Dillon, Chris; Julie Hedlund Cc: gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org; Rudi Vansnick Subject: RE: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] RE: REMINDER FOR REVIEW: Revised Draft PDP WG Charter Dear Chris, Greetings of the day!!! As discussed in the previous meeting regarding the "Legal Issues"- raised by Rudi, the conclusion we arrived was, we may get legal advice from lCANN legal team. But I think we need to discuss in elaborate the mechanism that could be worked on to address the legal issues by PDP team. For further details regarding the legal implications that would arise during the Translation and Transliteration process : Refer paragraph 4 on page number 16 of the document: http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/ird/final-report-ird-wg-07may12-en.pdf Regards, Vinay Kumar Singh Student: LL.B. with Honors in Intellectual Property Indian Institute of Technology, Kharagpur India Mobile: +91 8509 227 666 ________________________________ Subject: Re: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] RE: REMINDER FOR REVIEW: Revised Draft PDP WG Charter From: rudi.vansnick@isoc.be Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 10:36:18 +0200 CC: julie.hedlund@icann.org; gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org To: c.dillon@ucl.ac.uk Dear Chris, As you said the document drafted by Julie is great and is not easy to improve. All is covered as far as I understand the principles of the duty of the draft team. It is up to the WG to elaborate responses to the given questions and issues. I would let the WG decide if they want to extend the 5 present models. It would require some investigation for us to define a sixth model, that perhaps was already discussed previously and was not withhold. Interesting sample question ... a lot to discuss but isn't that the duty of the WG ? We are only the charter drafting team ... Till later today. Rudi Vansnick Chair NPOC Policy Committee - ICANN - www.npoc.org<http://www.npoc.org/> Mobile +32/(0)475/28.16.32 - Tel +32/(0)9/329.39.16 rudi.vansnick@isoc.be<mailto:rudi.vansnick@isoc.be> Op 22-aug.-2013, om 09:12 heeft "Dillon, Chris" <c.dillon@ucl.ac.uk<mailto:c.dillon@ucl.ac.uk>> het volgende geschreven: Dear colleagues, Julie's drafting is difficult to improve. However, I wonder if it would be good to have a line explicitly indicating that the PDP WG will be free to modify the five alternatives in Section II, effectively creating a sixth one which is recommended/preferred. Beyond that my mind is starting to think about translation/transliteration principles for the representation of contact details (rather than notes for so many languages), but that is probably best left to the PDP WG. An example of a principle might be the answer to the question "What happens if there is more than one Romanization (transliteration) for a language in common use?". Looking forward to speaking later, Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Dept of Information Studies, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599)ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon<http://ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon> From: owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org> [mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org>] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund Sent: 21 August 2013 20:05 To: gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] REMINDER FOR REVIEW: Revised Draft PDP WG Charter Importance: High Dear members of the Charter Drafting Team, This is a reminder that per our actions from our meeting that week, attached you will find a revised draft charter for your review and for discussion at our next meeting on Thursday, 22 August 1500 UTC (08:00 PDT, 11:00 EDT, 16:00 London, 17:00 CEST). The changes are reflected as redlines. This also is posted on wiki at: https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/22+August+2013. Please let me know if you have any questions. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
Dear Rudy, I agree we should let the WG decide if they want to run with one of the models, or another one. I'm just wondering whether we should add a sentence to make it clear that they are not tied to the five models. I also agree that questions like my sample one is their work. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Dept of Information Studies, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon From: owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org] On Behalf Of Rudi Vansnick Sent: 22 August 2013 09:36 To: Dillon, Chris Cc: Julie Hedlund; gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] RE: REMINDER FOR REVIEW: Revised Draft PDP WG Charter Dear Chris, As you said the document drafted by Julie is great and is not easy to improve. All is covered as far as I understand the principles of the duty of the draft team. It is up to the WG to elaborate responses to the given questions and issues. I would let the WG decide if they want to extend the 5 present models. It would require some investigation for us to define a sixth model, that perhaps was already discussed previously and was not withhold. Interesting sample question ... a lot to discuss but isn't that the duty of the WG ? We are only the charter drafting team ... Till later today. Rudi Vansnick Chair NPOC Policy Committee - ICANN - www.npoc.org<http://www.npoc.org/> Mobile +32/(0)475/28.16.32 - Tel +32/(0)9/329.39.16 rudi.vansnick@isoc.be<mailto:rudi.vansnick@isoc.be> Op 22-aug.-2013, om 09:12 heeft "Dillon, Chris" <c.dillon@ucl.ac.uk<mailto:c.dillon@ucl.ac.uk>> het volgende geschreven: Dear colleagues, Julie's drafting is difficult to improve. However, I wonder if it would be good to have a line explicitly indicating that the PDP WG will be free to modify the five alternatives in Section II, effectively creating a sixth one which is recommended/preferred. Beyond that my mind is starting to think about translation/transliteration principles for the representation of contact details (rather than notes for so many languages), but that is probably best left to the PDP WG. An example of a principle might be the answer to the question "What happens if there is more than one Romanization (transliteration) for a language in common use?". Looking forward to speaking later, Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Dept of Information Studies, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599)ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon<http://ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon> From: owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org> [mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org>] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund Sent: 21 August 2013 20:05 To: gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] REMINDER FOR REVIEW: Revised Draft PDP WG Charter Importance: High Dear members of the Charter Drafting Team, This is a reminder that per our actions from our meeting that week, attached you will find a revised draft charter for your review and for discussion at our next meeting on Thursday, 22 August 1500 UTC (08:00 PDT, 11:00 EDT, 16:00 London, 17:00 CEST). The changes are reflected as redlines. This also is posted on wiki at: https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/22+August+2013. Please let me know if you have any questions. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
Dear members of the Charter Drafting Team, Per our actions from our meeting today, attached you will find a revised draft charter for your review and for discussion at our next meeting on Thursday, 29 August 1500 UTC (08:00 PDT, 11:00 EDT, 16:00 London, 17:00 CEST). The changes are reflected as redlines. This also is posted on wiki at: https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/29+August+2013. Please let me know if you have any questions. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
Dear Julie, Many thanks for the new version, especially that useful list of relevant PDPs and WGs. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Dept of Information Studies, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon From: owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund Sent: 22 August 2013 20:10 To: gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] FOR REVIEW: Revised Draft PDP WG Charter Importance: High Dear members of the Charter Drafting Team, Per our actions from our meeting today, attached you will find a revised draft charter for your review and for discussion at our next meeting on Thursday, 29 August 1500 UTC (08:00 PDT, 11:00 EDT, 16:00 London, 17:00 CEST). The changes are reflected as redlines. This also is posted on wiki at: https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/29+August+2013. Please let me know if you have any questions. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
Dear Charter Drafting Team members, We are canceling today's call that was scheduled for 1500 UTC. We apologize for the late notice, but after our requests for RSVPs for today's call, with a reminder yesterday, we have received no RSVPs. We will send a doodle to help us to pick a better time for a call. In the meantime, I will send a reminder for DT members to comment on the latest draft of the charter. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Director, SSAC Support
Thanks Julie. I should have apologized sooner about not being able to attend today's call. Amr Sent from mobile On Aug 29, 2013, at 2:52 PM, Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Charter Drafting Team members,
We are canceling today's call that was scheduled for 1500 UTC. We apologize for the late notice, but after our requests for RSVPs for today's call, with a reminder yesterday, we have received no RSVPs. We will send a doodle to help us to pick a better time for a call. In the meantime, I will send a reminder for DT members to comment on the latest draft of the charter.
Best regards,
Julie
Julie Hedlund, Director, SSAC Support
Dear Charter Drafting Team members, As discussed today, attached for your review is the charter and motion. In the charter document I have accepted all of the changes. The motion will be submitted along with the final charter to the Council for consideration at its meeting on 10 October. An example of a similar motion for your reference may be found here: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+-+17+January +2013 (Motion for Approval of a Charter for the Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Part D Working Group (WG)). **Deadline: Please submit to the list any questions, comments, or edits to either of these documents by COB Wednesday, 18 September.** Note also that we currently have a call scheduled on 19 September, but unless there are changes that need to be discussed in a call (rather than on the list) we will probably cancel the call. However, we will wait until the above-mentioned deadline before we decide to cancel. Next steps after Council approval: Once the charter is approved staff will send out a broad invitation for the PDP Working Group. You will note in the motion that there is a deadline for the PDP WG to be formed within 14 days of approval of the charter. Of course all Charter DT members are encouraged to join the PDP WG. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Director, SSAC Support
Dear Charter Drafting Team members, After reviewing the motion again, I realized that I left out an important whereas clause. This clause was missing from the motion I used as an example because the charter in that case was provided by staff and not by a drafting team. Also, rather than inserting the key issues from the charter into the motion it seems more complete to reference a link to the full charter. The link will be inserted once the motion once a Councillor agrees to sponsor it. Please see the attached version where these changes are tracked for your consideration. Best regards, Julie From: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org> Date: Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:35 PM To: "gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org" <gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] FOR REVIEW: Charter and Motion Dear Charter Drafting Team members, As discussed today, attached for your review is the charter and motion. In the charter document I have accepted all of the changes. The motion will be submitted along with the final charter to the Council for consideration at its meeting on 10 October. An example of a similar motion for your reference may be found here: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+-+17+January +2013 (Motion for Approval of a Charter for the Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Part D Working Group (WG)). **Deadline: Please submit to the list any questions, comments, or edits to either of these documents by COB Wednesday, 18 September.** Note also that we currently have a call scheduled on 19 September, but unless there are changes that need to be discussed in a call (rather than on the list) we will probably cancel the call. However, we will wait until the above-mentioned deadline before we decide to cancel. Next steps after Council approval: Once the charter is approved staff will send out a broad invitation for the PDP Working Group. You will note in the motion that there is a deadline for the PDP WG to be formed within 14 days of approval of the charter. Of course all Charter DT members are encouraged to join the PDP WG. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Director, SSAC Support
Dear Julie, I have nothing substantial to add to either document, perhaps with the exception that I would like to be one of those proposing the motion. I'm guessing you may be the GNSO Council Liaison? I'm also sending this to encourage any last minute discussion of the documents, which could be substantial as we still have a last meeting scheduled on Thursday. Moreover, we do need another sponsor. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Dept of Information Studies, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon From: owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund Sent: 16 September 2013 19:47 To: gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] FOR REVIEW(2): Charter and REVISED Motion Importance: High Dear Charter Drafting Team members, After reviewing the motion again, I realized that I left out an important whereas clause. This clause was missing from the motion I used as an example because the charter in that case was provided by staff and not by a drafting team. Also, rather than inserting the key issues from the charter into the motion it seems more complete to reference a link to the full charter. The link will be inserted once the motion once a Councillor agrees to sponsor it. Please see the attached version where these changes are tracked for your consideration. Best regards, Julie From: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org<mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org>> Date: Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:35 PM To: "gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org>" <gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org>> Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] FOR REVIEW: Charter and Motion Dear Charter Drafting Team members, As discussed today, attached for your review is the charter and motion. In the charter document I have accepted all of the changes. The motion will be submitted along with the final charter to the Council for consideration at its meeting on 10 October. An example of a similar motion for your reference may be found here: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+-+17+January... (Motion for Approval of a Charter for the Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Part D Working Group (WG)). **Deadline: Please submit to the list any questions, comments, or edits to either of these documents by COB Wednesday, 18 September.** Note also that we currently have a call scheduled on 19 September, but unless there are changes that need to be discussed in a call (rather than on the list) we will probably cancel the call. However, we will wait until the above-mentioned deadline before we decide to cancel. Next steps after Council approval: Once the charter is approved staff will send out a broad invitation for the PDP Working Group. You will note in the motion that there is a deadline for the PDP WG to be formed within 14 days of approval of the charter. Of course all Charter DT members are encouraged to join the PDP WG. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Director, SSAC Support
Dear Chris, I should have explained before, but the motion needs to be put forth to the Council by a Councillor. Once the DT accepts the motion and the Charter (deadline this Wednesday) I was going to suggest that perhaps that you could present the documents to Ching Chao (who is a Councillor) on behalf of the DT and ask if he would be willing to submit the motion. Also, the DT does not have a GNSO Council Liaison and none has been selected yet for the PDP-WG, although as noted in the motion this person can be designated later. The Liaison also must be a Councilor. II apologize for not explaining this on our last call. Best regards, Julie From: <Dillon>, Chris <c.dillon@ucl.ac.uk> Date: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 9:05 AM To: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org>, "gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org" <gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: RE: FOR REVIEW(2): Charter and REVISED Motion Dear Julie, I have nothing substantial to add to either document, perhaps with the exception that I would like to be one of those proposing the motion. I¹m guessing you may be the GNSO Council Liaison? I¹m also sending this to encourage any last minute discussion of the documents, which could be substantial as we still have a last meeting scheduled on Thursday. Moreover, we do need another sponsor. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Dept of Information Studies, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon From: owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund Sent: 16 September 2013 19:47 To: gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] FOR REVIEW(2): Charter and REVISED Motion Importance: High Dear Charter Drafting Team members, After reviewing the motion again, I realized that I left out an important whereas clause. This clause was missing from the motion I used as an example because the charter in that case was provided by staff and not by a drafting team. Also, rather than inserting the key issues from the charter into the motion it seems more complete to reference a link to the full charter. The link will be inserted once the motion once a Councillor agrees to sponsor it. Please see the attached version where these changes are tracked for your consideration. Best regards, Julie From: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org> Date: Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:35 PM To: "gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org" <gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] FOR REVIEW: Charter and Motion Dear Charter Drafting Team members, As discussed today, attached for your review is the charter and motion. In the charter document I have accepted all of the changes. The motion will be submitted along with the final charter to the Council for consideration at its meeting on 10 October. An example of a similar motion for your reference may be found here: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+-+17+January +2013 (Motion for Approval of a Charter for the Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Part D Working Group (WG)). **Deadline: Please submit to the list any questions, comments, or edits to either of these documents by COB Wednesday, 18 September.** Note also that we currently have a call scheduled on 19 September, but unless there are changes that need to be discussed in a call (rather than on the list) we will probably cancel the call. However, we will wait until the above-mentioned deadline before we decide to cancel. Next steps after Council approval: Once the charter is approved staff will send out a broad invitation for the PDP Working Group. You will note in the motion that there is a deadline for the PDP WG to be formed within 14 days of approval of the charter. Of course all Charter DT members are encouraged to join the PDP WG. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Director, SSAC Support
Dear Julie, That's no trouble at all. I was just trying to keep things moving. I'll present the documents to him on Friday and ask about the liaison role. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Dept of Information Studies, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon From: Julie Hedlund [mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org] Sent: 17 September 2013 15:16 To: Dillon, Chris; gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: FOR REVIEW(2): Charter and REVISED Motion Dear Chris, I should have explained before, but the motion needs to be put forth to the Council by a Councillor. Once the DT accepts the motion and the Charter (deadline this Wednesday) I was going to suggest that perhaps that you could present the documents to Ching Chao (who is a Councillor) on behalf of the DT and ask if he would be willing to submit the motion. Also, the DT does not have a GNSO Council Liaison and none has been selected yet for the PDP-WG, although as noted in the motion this person can be designated later. The Liaison also must be a Councilor. II apologize for not explaining this on our last call. Best regards, Julie From: <Dillon>, Chris <c.dillon@ucl.ac.uk<mailto:c.dillon@ucl.ac.uk>> Date: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 9:05 AM To: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org<mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org>>, "gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org>" <gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org>> Subject: RE: FOR REVIEW(2): Charter and REVISED Motion Dear Julie, I have nothing substantial to add to either document, perhaps with the exception that I would like to be one of those proposing the motion. I'm guessing you may be the GNSO Council Liaison? I'm also sending this to encourage any last minute discussion of the documents, which could be substantial as we still have a last meeting scheduled on Thursday. Moreover, we do need another sponsor. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Dept of Information Studies, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon From: owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org> [mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund Sent: 16 September 2013 19:47 To: gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] FOR REVIEW(2): Charter and REVISED Motion Importance: High Dear Charter Drafting Team members, After reviewing the motion again, I realized that I left out an important whereas clause. This clause was missing from the motion I used as an example because the charter in that case was provided by staff and not by a drafting team. Also, rather than inserting the key issues from the charter into the motion it seems more complete to reference a link to the full charter. The link will be inserted once the motion once a Councillor agrees to sponsor it. Please see the attached version where these changes are tracked for your consideration. Best regards, Julie From: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org<mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org>> Date: Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:35 PM To: "gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org>" <gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org>> Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] FOR REVIEW: Charter and Motion Dear Charter Drafting Team members, As discussed today, attached for your review is the charter and motion. In the charter document I have accepted all of the changes. The motion will be submitted along with the final charter to the Council for consideration at its meeting on 10 October. An example of a similar motion for your reference may be found here: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+-+17+January... (Motion for Approval of a Charter for the Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Part D Working Group (WG)). **Deadline: Please submit to the list any questions, comments, or edits to either of these documents by COB Wednesday, 18 September.** Note also that we currently have a call scheduled on 19 September, but unless there are changes that need to be discussed in a call (rather than on the list) we will probably cancel the call. However, we will wait until the above-mentioned deadline before we decide to cancel. Next steps after Council approval: Once the charter is approved staff will send out a broad invitation for the PDP Working Group. You will note in the motion that there is a deadline for the PDP WG to be formed within 14 days of approval of the charter. Of course all Charter DT members are encouraged to join the PDP WG. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Director, SSAC Support
Dear Chris, Thank you very much and for your efforts to keep things moving! Best regards, Julie From: <Dillon>, Chris <c.dillon@ucl.ac.uk> Date: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:26 AM To: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org> Cc: "gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org" <gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: RE: FOR REVIEW(2): Charter and REVISED Motion Dear Julie, That¹s no trouble at all. I was just trying to keep things moving. I¹ll present the documents to him on Friday and ask about the liaison role. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Dept of Information Studies, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon From: Julie Hedlund [mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org] Sent: 17 September 2013 15:16 To: Dillon, Chris; gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: FOR REVIEW(2): Charter and REVISED Motion Dear Chris, I should have explained before, but the motion needs to be put forth to the Council by a Councillor. Once the DT accepts the motion and the Charter (deadline this Wednesday) I was going to suggest that perhaps that you could present the documents to Ching Chao (who is a Councillor) on behalf of the DT and ask if he would be willing to submit the motion. Also, the DT does not have a GNSO Council Liaison and none has been selected yet for the PDP-WG, although as noted in the motion this person can be designated later. The Liaison also must be a Councilor. II apologize for not explaining this on our last call. Best regards, Julie From: <Dillon>, Chris <c.dillon@ucl.ac.uk> Date: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 9:05 AM To: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org>, "gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org" <gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: RE: FOR REVIEW(2): Charter and REVISED Motion Dear Julie, I have nothing substantial to add to either document, perhaps with the exception that I would like to be one of those proposing the motion. I¹m guessing you may be the GNSO Council Liaison? I¹m also sending this to encourage any last minute discussion of the documents, which could be substantial as we still have a last meeting scheduled on Thursday. Moreover, we do need another sponsor. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Dept of Information Studies, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon From:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund Sent: 16 September 2013 19:47 To: gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] FOR REVIEW(2): Charter and REVISED Motion Importance: High Dear Charter Drafting Team members, After reviewing the motion again, I realized that I left out an important whereas clause. This clause was missing from the motion I used as an example because the charter in that case was provided by staff and not by a drafting team. Also, rather than inserting the key issues from the charter into the motion it seems more complete to reference a link to the full charter. The link will be inserted once the motion once a Councillor agrees to sponsor it. Please see the attached version where these changes are tracked for your consideration. Best regards, Julie From: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org> Date: Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:35 PM To: "gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org" <gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] FOR REVIEW: Charter and Motion Dear Charter Drafting Team members, As discussed today, attached for your review is the charter and motion. In the charter document I have accepted all of the changes. The motion will be submitted along with the final charter to the Council for consideration at its meeting on 10 October. An example of a similar motion for your reference may be found here: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+-+17+January +2013 (Motion for Approval of a Charter for the Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Part D Working Group (WG)). **Deadline: Please submit to the list any questions, comments, or edits to either of these documents by COB Wednesday, 18 September.** Note also that we currently have a call scheduled on 19 September, but unless there are changes that need to be discussed in a call (rather than on the list) we will probably cancel the call. However, we will wait until the above-mentioned deadline before we decide to cancel. Next steps after Council approval: Once the charter is approved staff will send out a broad invitation for the PDP Working Group. You will note in the motion that there is a deadline for the PDP WG to be formed within 14 days of approval of the charter. Of course all Charter DT members are encouraged to join the PDP WG. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Director, SSAC Support
Dear Chris, Many thanks for moving forward with the motion. I'm sure Ching Chao will accept to pass the motion. And Julie, also thanks a lot for your help and assistance. As this was my first drafting team work, I'm now confident I can be more effective in the next one. And yes, I'm looking forward joining the working group for this PDP. Kind regards, Rudi Vansnick NPOC chair Policy Committee NPOC treasurer rudi.vansnick@npoc.org Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16 Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32 www.npoc.org Op 17-sep.-2013, om 16:26 heeft "Dillon, Chris" <c.dillon@ucl.ac.uk> het volgende geschreven:
Dear Julie,
That’s no trouble at all. I was just trying to keep things moving. I’ll present the documents to him on Friday and ask about the liaison role.
Regards,
Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Dept of Information Studies, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon
From: Julie Hedlund [mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org] Sent: 17 September 2013 15:16 To: Dillon, Chris; gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: FOR REVIEW(2): Charter and REVISED Motion
Dear Chris,
I should have explained before, but the motion needs to be put forth to the Council by a Councillor. Once the DT accepts the motion and the Charter (deadline this Wednesday) I was going to suggest that perhaps that you could present the documents to Ching Chao (who is a Councillor) on behalf of the DT and ask if he would be willing to submit the motion.
Also, the DT does not have a GNSO Council Liaison and none has been selected yet for the PDP-WG, although as noted in the motion this person can be designated later. The Liaison also must be a Councilor. II apologize for not explaining this on our last call.
Best regards,
Julie
From: <Dillon>, Chris <c.dillon@ucl.ac.uk> Date: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 9:05 AM To: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org>, "gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org" <gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: RE: FOR REVIEW(2): Charter and REVISED Motion
Dear Julie,
I have nothing substantial to add to either document, perhaps with the exception that I would like to be one of those proposing the motion.
I’m guessing you may be the GNSO Council Liaison?
I’m also sending this to encourage any last minute discussion of the documents, which could be substantial as we still have a last meeting scheduled on Thursday. Moreover, we do need another sponsor.
Regards,
Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Dept of Information Studies, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon
From: owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund Sent: 16 September 2013 19:47 To: gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] FOR REVIEW(2): Charter and REVISED Motion Importance: High
Dear Charter Drafting Team members,
After reviewing the motion again, I realized that I left out an important whereas clause. This clause was missing from the motion I used as an example because the charter in that case was provided by staff and not by a drafting team. Also, rather than inserting the key issues from the charter into the motion it seems more complete to reference a link to the full charter. The link will be inserted once the motion once a Councillor agrees to sponsor it.
Please see the attached version where these changes are tracked for your consideration.
Best regards,
Julie
From: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org> Date: Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:35 PM To: "gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org" <gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] FOR REVIEW: Charter and Motion
Dear Charter Drafting Team members,
As discussed today, attached for your review is the charter and motion. In the charter document I have accepted all of the changes. The motion will be submitted along with the final charter to the Council for consideration at its meeting on 10 October. An example of a similar motion for your reference may be found here: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+-+17+January... (Motion for Approval of a Charter for the Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Part D Working Group (WG)).
**Deadline: Please submit to the list any questions, comments, or edits to either of these documents by COB Wednesday, 18 September.**
Note also that we currently have a call scheduled on 19 September, but unless there are changes that need to be discussed in a call (rather than on the list) we will probably cancel the call. However, we will wait until the above-mentioned deadline before we decide to cancel.
Next steps after Council approval: Once the charter is approved staff will send out a broad invitation for the PDP Working Group. You will note in the motion that there is a deadline for the PDP WG to be formed within 14 days of approval of the charter. Of course all Charter DT members are encouraged to join the PDP WG.
Best regards,
Julie
Julie Hedlund, Director, SSAC Support
Dear Chris, Rudi, and the Charter Drafting Team members, Thank you very much for your excellent work! As it is now COB 18 September 2013 and I have received no comments or changes to the Charter or Motion, I attach the final versions here. In addition, we will cancel tomorrow's meeting and remove it from the GNSO calendar. For our next step I would suggest following the suggestion Chris made to approach Ching Chao to see if he is willing to bring the Charter and Motion to the GNSO Council. Best regards, Julie
Thanks Julie and all. Unless there are any other opinions on how to proceed, I second the approach suggested by Chris and Julie. Thanks again. Amr On Sep 19, 2013, at 1:12 AM, Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Chris, Rudi, and the Charter Drafting Team members,
Thank you very much for your excellent work!
As it is now COB 18 September 2013 and I have received no comments or changes to the Charter or Motion, I attach the final versions here. In addition, we will cancel tomorrow's meeting and remove it from the GNSO calendar.
For our next step I would suggest following the suggestion Chris made to approach Ching Chao to see if he is willing to bring the Charter and Motion to the GNSO Council.
Best regards, Julie <Charter PDP WG Translation-Transliteration Contact Info 20130912.doc><Motion for Approval of a Charter for the Translation and Translation of Contact Information Policy Development Process Working Group 130916.docx>
Dear Julie, Amr & colleagues, Many thanks. As you can imagine, I am gearing up to e-mailing Ching Chiao tomorrow, Friday, along the lines agreed e.g. in Julie's e-mail of 17/9/13 (see below). As Rudi said in his recent e-mail, it was also my first work with a drafting team and I am grateful that it was such a supportive and safe environment for a newbie! Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Dept of Information Studies, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon From: owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org] On Behalf Of Amr Elsadr Sent: 19 September 2013 08:41 To: Julie Hedlund Cc: gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Final Charter and Motion/Cancel Tomorrow's Meeting Importance: High Thanks Julie and all. Unless there are any other opinions on how to proceed, I second the approach suggested by Chris and Julie. Thanks again. Amr On Sep 19, 2013, at 1:12 AM, Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org<mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org>> wrote: Dear Chris, Rudi, and the Charter Drafting Team members, Thank you very much for your excellent work! As it is now COB 18 September 2013 and I have received no comments or changes to the Charter or Motion, I attach the final versions here. In addition, we will cancel tomorrow's meeting and remove it from the GNSO calendar. For our next step I would suggest following the suggestion Chris made to approach Ching Chao to see if he is willing to bring the Charter and Motion to the GNSO Council. Best regards, Julie <Charter PDP WG Translation-Transliteration Contact Info 20130912.doc><Motion for Approval of a Charter for the Translation and Translation of Contact Information Policy Development Process Working Group 130916.docx> From: Julie Hedlund [mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org] Sent: 17 September 2013 15:16 To: Dillon, Chris; gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: FOR REVIEW(2): Charter and REVISED Motion Dear Chris, I should have explained before, but the motion needs to be put forth to the Council by a Councillor. Once the DT accepts the motion and the Charter (deadline this Wednesday) I was going to suggest that perhaps that you could present the documents to Ching Chao (who is a Councillor) on behalf of the DT and ask if he would be willing to submit the motion. Also, the DT does not have a GNSO Council Liaison and none has been selected yet for the PDP-WG, although as noted in the motion this person can be designated later. The Liaison also must be a Councilor. II apologize for not explaining this on our last call. Best regards, Julie
Dear Julie & Colleagues, Greetings of the day!!! As discussed in the previous meeting I have listed the Legal Issues that may arise during the Translation and Transliteration process of Contact and Postal Information. 1- The contact information consist of three details namely: a. Owner Contact and Postal Information b. Admin Contact and Postal Information c. Technical Contact and Postal Information Legal Issue: Which one of these Contact and Postal Information will be considered as "Legal Contact and Postal Information". 2- While Translation and Transliteration process of Contact and Postal Information is being performed their might arise a situation where such process may result into inadequate information. Example Transliteration: ‘street’ in Chinese is ‘街’(U+8857 ) or ‘路’ (U+8DEF). It would be transliterated into “jie” or “lu.” Legal Issue: The inadequate information may raise legal implications, when referring to dispute related to a particular domain as the name and contact details may have changed during the Translation and Transliteration process. Probable Solution: The Contact and Postal Information which constitutes a "Legal Contact and Postal Information" would be allowed to be present in a "must be present" format on which no Translation and Transliteration process can be performed, while the other contact and postal information may be translated/transliterated as they would be only for informational purpose and no legal implication would arise. Regards, Vinay Kumar Singh Student: LL.B. with Honors in Intellectual Property Indian Institute of Technology, Kharagpur India Mobile: +91 8509 227 666 From: julie.hedlund@icann.org To: gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 12:09:54 -0700 Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] FOR REVIEW: Revised Draft PDP WG Charter Dear members of the Charter Drafting Team, Per our actions from our meeting today, attached you will find a revised draft charter for your review and for discussion at our next meeting on Thursday, 29 August 1500 UTC (08:00 PDT, 11:00 EDT, 16:00 London, 17:00 CEST). The changes are reflected as redlines. This also is posted on wiki at: https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/29+August+2013. Please let me know if you have any questions. Best regards,Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
Dear members of the Charter Drafting Team, Please see below the actions from today's meeting. These also are posted to the wiki at: https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/08+August+2013. Our meetings will occur weekly on Thursdays at 1500 UTC (08:00 PDT, 11:00 EDT, 16:00 London, 17:00 CEST). The next meeting is Thursday, 22 August. A meeting notification with teleconference information will be sent separately. Actions: Clarify the Mission and Scope with additional explanation concerning the issues (Staff). Please let me know if you have any questions. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
Dear members of the Charter Drafting Team, Please see below the actions from today's meeting. These also are posted to the wiki at: https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/08+August+2013. The next meeting is Thursday, 29 August at 1500 UTC (08:00 PDT, 11:00 EDT, 16:00 London, 17:00 CEST. A meeting notification with teleconference information will be sent separately and in this we will ask members to RSVP. If many people cannot attend at the usual meeting time we may try to select a different time. Actions: Review the latest version of the charter (sent in a separate message) and comment on the list. Please let me know if you have any questions. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
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