Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting
Dear EPDP Team, In planning for our F2F meeting in Los Angeles in September, I wanted to test the idea of carving out time as part of our agenda to meet with ICANN’s CEO and/or the Strawberry Team to get an update on the status of their activities in relation to the UAM based on the TSG model. As the questions that ICANN org is preparing for DPAs are expected to also help inform the EPDP Team’s deliberations, it may be of interest to get an update on the status as well as expected timeline and sharing any question from EPDP team directed to DPAs. Similarly, there may be further questions that the EPDP Team has for ICANN’s CEO that may impact the team’s decision-making further down the line, for example, in relation to the liability ICANN org is expected or willing to take on in a potential UAM. If there is interest in such an engagement, I would like to propose that we start a google doc that allows for the collection of specific questions so we can make sure that any engagement is structured to achieve a constructive outcome. I look forward to receiving your feedback. JK
Sounds like a good idea to me. An hour or so devoted to soliciting answers to questions about ICANN’s status as a data controller would be very important contributor to our work, in my opinion. Others? --MM From: Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Janis Karklins Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 5:12 AM To: gnso-epdp-team@icann.org; gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting Dear EPDP Team, In planning for our F2F meeting in Los Angeles in September, I wanted to test the idea of carving out time as part of our agenda to meet with ICANN’s CEO and/or the Strawberry Team to get an update on the status of their activities in relation to the UAM based on the TSG model. As the questions that ICANN org is preparing for DPAs are expected to also help inform the EPDP Team’s deliberations, it may be of interest to get an update on the status as well as expected timeline and sharing any question from EPDP team directed to DPAs. Similarly, there may be further questions that the EPDP Team has for ICANN’s CEO that may impact the team’s decision-making further down the line, for example, in relation to the liability ICANN org is expected or willing to take on in a potential UAM. If there is interest in such an engagement, I would like to propose that we start a google doc that allows for the collection of specific questions so we can make sure that any engagement is structured to achieve a constructive outcome. I look forward to receiving your feedback. JK
Yes I would agree with Milton…I think it would be valuable to get an update from the Strawberry team on the current status of their engagement with DPA’s but wouldn’t want this to be a terribly long session I don’t think. Perhaps over lunch one of the days would be a good time? We’ve obviously got lots of work to do as a team but do think it’s valuable to engage with them. Regards, Matt From: Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of "Mueller, Milton L" <milton@gatech.edu> Date: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 10:03 AM To: Janis Karklins <karklinsj@gmail.com>, "gnso-epdp-team@icann.org" <gnso-epdp-team@icann.org>, "gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org" <gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting Sounds like a good idea to me. An hour or so devoted to soliciting answers to questions about ICANN’s status as a data controller would be very important contributor to our work, in my opinion. Others? --MM From: Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Janis Karklins Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 5:12 AM To: gnso-epdp-team@icann.org; gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting Dear EPDP Team, In planning for our F2F meeting in Los Angeles in September, I wanted to test the idea of carving out time as part of our agenda to meet with ICANN’s CEO and/or the Strawberry Team to get an update on the status of their activities in relation to the UAM based on the TSG model. As the questions that ICANN org is preparing for DPAs are expected to also help inform the EPDP Team’s deliberations, it may be of interest to get an update on the status as well as expected timeline and sharing any question from EPDP team directed to DPAs. Similarly, there may be further questions that the EPDP Team has for ICANN’s CEO that may impact the team’s decision-making further down the line, for example, in relation to the liability ICANN org is expected or willing to take on in a potential UAM. If there is interest in such an engagement, I would like to propose that we start a google doc that allows for the collection of specific questions so we can make sure that any engagement is structured to achieve a constructive outcome. I look forward to receiving your feedback. JK
I also agree that this would be very valuable, and I like the idea of building a list of questions in advance. I think the previous objections to a lunchtime presentation would still apply, though. /marksv From: Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Matt Serlin Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 10:31 AM To: Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu>; Janis Karklins <karklinsj@gmail.com>; gnso-epdp-team@icann.org; gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting Yes I would agree with Milton…I think it would be valuable to get an update from the Strawberry team on the current status of their engagement with DPA’s but wouldn’t want this to be a terribly long session I don’t think. Perhaps over lunch one of the days would be a good time? We’ve obviously got lots of work to do as a team but do think it’s valuable to engage with them. Regards, Matt From: Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of "Mueller, Milton L" <milton@gatech.edu<mailto:milton@gatech.edu>> Date: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 10:03 AM To: Janis Karklins <karklinsj@gmail.com<mailto:karklinsj@gmail.com>>, "gnso-epdp-team@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org>" <gnso-epdp-team@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org>>, "gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org>" <gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting Sounds like a good idea to me. An hour or so devoted to soliciting answers to questions about ICANN’s status as a data controller would be very important contributor to our work, in my opinion. Others? --MM From: Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Janis Karklins Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 5:12 AM To: gnso-epdp-team@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org>; gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting Dear EPDP Team, In planning for our F2F meeting in Los Angeles in September, I wanted to test the idea of carving out time as part of our agenda to meet with ICANN’s CEO and/or the Strawberry Team to get an update on the status of their activities in relation to the UAM based on the TSG model. As the questions that ICANN org is preparing for DPAs are expected to also help inform the EPDP Team’s deliberations, it may be of interest to get an update on the status as well as expected timeline and sharing any question from EPDP team directed to DPAs. Similarly, there may be further questions that the EPDP Team has for ICANN’s CEO that may impact the team’s decision-making further down the line, for example, in relation to the liability ICANN org is expected or willing to take on in a potential UAM. If there is interest in such an engagement, I would like to propose that we start a google doc that allows for the collection of specific questions so we can make sure that any engagement is structured to achieve a constructive outcome. I look forward to receiving your feedback. JK
Very valuable. Janis et al can set expectations and agenda with them ahead of time, to encourage efficiency during our busy F2F schedule. Too important to relegate to lunchtime. From: Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Mark Svancarek (CELA) via Gnso-epdp-team Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 1:49 PM To: Matt Serlin <matt@brandsight.com>; Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu>; Janis Karklins <karklinsj@gmail.com>; gnso-epdp-team@icann.org; gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting I also agree that this would be very valuable, and I like the idea of building a list of questions in advance. I think the previous objections to a lunchtime presentation would still apply, though. /marksv From: Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org> > On Behalf Of Matt Serlin Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 10:31 AM To: Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu <mailto:milton@gatech.edu> >; Janis Karklins <karklinsj@gmail.com <mailto:karklinsj@gmail.com> >; gnso-epdp-team@icann.org <mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org> ; gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org <mailto:gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting Yes I would agree with Milton…I think it would be valuable to get an update from the Strawberry team on the current status of their engagement with DPA’s but wouldn’t want this to be a terribly long session I don’t think. Perhaps over lunch one of the days would be a good time? We’ve obviously got lots of work to do as a team but do think it’s valuable to engage with them. Regards, Matt From: Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org> > on behalf of "Mueller, Milton L" <milton@gatech.edu <mailto:milton@gatech.edu> > Date: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 10:03 AM To: Janis Karklins <karklinsj@gmail.com <mailto:karklinsj@gmail.com> >, "gnso-epdp-team@icann.org <mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org> " <gnso-epdp-team@icann.org <mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org> >, "gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org <mailto:gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org> " <gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org <mailto:gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting Sounds like a good idea to me. An hour or so devoted to soliciting answers to questions about ICANN’s status as a data controller would be very important contributor to our work, in my opinion. Others? --MM From: Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org> > On Behalf Of Janis Karklins Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 5:12 AM To: gnso-epdp-team@icann.org <mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org> ; gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org <mailto:gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting Dear EPDP Team, In planning for our F2F meeting in Los Angeles in September, I wanted to test the idea of carving out time as part of our agenda to meet with ICANN’s CEO and/or the Strawberry Team to get an update on the status of their activities in relation to the UAM based on the TSG model. As the questions that ICANN org is preparing for DPAs are expected to also help inform the EPDP Team’s deliberations, it may be of interest to get an update on the status as well as expected timeline and sharing any question from EPDP team directed to DPAs. Similarly, there may be further questions that the EPDP Team has for ICANN’s CEO that may impact the team’s decision-making further down the line, for example, in relation to the liability ICANN org is expected or willing to take on in a potential UAM. If there is interest in such an engagement, I would like to propose that we start a google doc that allows for the collection of specific questions so we can make sure that any engagement is structured to achieve a constructive outcome. I look forward to receiving your feedback. JK
Dear Janis and all, I think meeting with the Strawberry team is important to the work of the legal team, where we would be able to know if they reached legal conclusions in relation to some of the components of the UAM. In addition, it would certainly be useful to the work of the entire team as we could base our work on realistic assumptions. Discussing with ICANN's CEO different stakeholders' liabilities is also important to the group's work. To conclude I do agree to meeting with both provided of course we have the time for this. Kindest regards Hadia Hadia Elminiawi Director, DNS Entrepreneurship Center National Telecom Regulatory Authority of Egypt On Aug 20, 2019, at 12:00 PM, Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu<mailto:milton@gatech.edu>> wrote: Sounds like a good idea to me. An hour or so devoted to soliciting answers to questions about ICANN’s status as a data controller would be very important contributor to our work, in my opinion. Others? --MM From: Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Janis Karklins Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 5:12 AM To: gnso-epdp-team@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org>; gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting Dear EPDP Team, In planning for our F2F meeting in Los Angeles in September, I wanted to test the idea of carving out time as part of our agenda to meet with ICANN’s CEO and/or the Strawberry Team to get an update on the status of their activities in relation to the UAM based on the TSG model. As the questions that ICANN org is preparing for DPAs are expected to also help inform the EPDP Team’s deliberations, it may be of interest to get an update on the status as well as expected timeline and sharing any question from EPDP team directed to DPAs. Similarly, there may be further questions that the EPDP Team has for ICANN’s CEO that may impact the team’s decision-making further down the line, for example, in relation to the liability ICANN org is expected or willing to take on in a potential UAM. If there is interest in such an engagement, I would like to propose that we start a google doc that allows for the collection of specific questions so we can make sure that any engagement is structured to achieve a constructive outcome. I look forward to receiving your feedback. JK _______________________________________________ Gnso-epdp-team mailing list Gnso-epdp-team@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-epdp-team@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-epdp-team _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
IPC supports meeting with Goran and Strawberry Squad as suggested. We would be fine to do this over lunch if necessary. This is an important influencing factor for our work, so if a non-lunch session would be more productive, that would be our preference. We agree to Janis' suggestion that we prepare a list of questions ahead of time, and would request a full report not necessarily limited to our proactive questions. Brian J. King Director of Internet Policy and Industry Affairs T +1 443 761 3726 markmonitor.com MarkMonitor Protecting companies and consumers in a digital world -----Original Message----- From: Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 6:29 PM To: Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu> Cc: gnso-epdp-team@icann.org; gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting Dear Janis and all, I think meeting with the Strawberry team is important to the work of the legal team, where we would be able to know if they reached legal conclusions in relation to some of the components of the UAM. In addition, it would certainly be useful to the work of the entire team as we could base our work on realistic assumptions. Discussing with ICANN's CEO different stakeholders' liabilities is also important to the group's work. To conclude I do agree to meeting with both provided of course we have the time for this. Kindest regards Hadia Hadia Elminiawi Director, DNS Entrepreneurship Center National Telecom Regulatory Authority of Egypt On Aug 20, 2019, at 12:00 PM, Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu<mailto:milton@gatech.edu>> wrote: Sounds like a good idea to me. An hour or so devoted to soliciting answers to questions about ICANN’s status as a data controller would be very important contributor to our work, in my opinion. Others? --MM From: Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Janis Karklins Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 5:12 AM To: gnso-epdp-team@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org>; gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting Dear EPDP Team, In planning for our F2F meeting in Los Angeles in September, I wanted to test the idea of carving out time as part of our agenda to meet with ICANN’s CEO and/or the Strawberry Team to get an update on the status of their activities in relation to the UAM based on the TSG model. As the questions that ICANN org is preparing for DPAs are expected to also help inform the EPDP Team’s deliberations, it may be of interest to get an update on the status as well as expected timeline and sharing any question from EPDP team directed to DPAs. Similarly, there may be further questions that the EPDP Team has for ICANN’s CEO that may impact the team’s decision-making further down the line, for example, in relation to the liability ICANN org is expected or willing to take on in a potential UAM. If there is interest in such an engagement, I would like to propose that we start a google doc that allows for the collection of specific questions so we can make sure that any engagement is structured to achieve a constructive outcome. I look forward to receiving your feedback. 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I am ok with some people having a list of questions and comparing notes about them, but I want a free-flowing discussion with Goran and the strawberries (I wince every time I use this fruity term btw) I don't want to get into political negotiations about what question I can ask and I don't want strategic bargaining over the list. --MM -----Original Message----- From: King, Brian <Brian.King@markmonitor.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 6:44 PM To: Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi <Hadia@tra.gov.eg>; Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu> Cc: gnso-epdp-team@icann.org; gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org Subject: RE: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting IPC supports meeting with Goran and Strawberry Squad as suggested. We would be fine to do this over lunch if necessary. This is an important influencing factor for our work, so if a non-lunch session would be more productive, that would be our preference. We agree to Janis' suggestion that we prepare a list of questions ahead of time, and would request a full report not necessarily limited to our proactive questions. Brian J. King Director of Internet Policy and Industry Affairs T +1 443 761 3726 markmonitor.com MarkMonitor Protecting companies and consumers in a digital world -----Original Message----- From: Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 6:29 PM To: Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu> Cc: gnso-epdp-team@icann.org; gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting Dear Janis and all, I think meeting with the Strawberry team is important to the work of the legal team, where we would be able to know if they reached legal conclusions in relation to some of the components of the UAM. In addition, it would certainly be useful to the work of the entire team as we could base our work on realistic assumptions. Discussing with ICANN's CEO different stakeholders' liabilities is also important to the group's work. To conclude I do agree to meeting with both provided of course we have the time for this. Kindest regards Hadia Hadia Elminiawi Director, DNS Entrepreneurship Center National Telecom Regulatory Authority of Egypt On Aug 20, 2019, at 12:00 PM, Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu<mailto:milton@gatech.edu>> wrote: Sounds like a good idea to me. An hour or so devoted to soliciting answers to questions about ICANN’s status as a data controller would be very important contributor to our work, in my opinion. Others? --MM From: Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Janis Karklins Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 5:12 AM To: gnso-epdp-team@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org>; gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting Dear EPDP Team, In planning for our F2F meeting in Los Angeles in September, I wanted to test the idea of carving out time as part of our agenda to meet with ICANN’s CEO and/or the Strawberry Team to get an update on the status of their activities in relation to the UAM based on the TSG model. As the questions that ICANN org is preparing for DPAs are expected to also help inform the EPDP Team’s deliberations, it may be of interest to get an update on the status as well as expected timeline and sharing any question from EPDP team directed to DPAs. Similarly, there may be further questions that the EPDP Team has for ICANN’s CEO that may impact the team’s decision-making further down the line, for example, in relation to the liability ICANN org is expected or willing to take on in a potential UAM. If there is interest in such an engagement, I would like to propose that we start a google doc that allows for the collection of specific questions so we can make sure that any engagement is structured to achieve a constructive outcome. I look forward to receiving your feedback. 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Dear Janis, The CPH has been pondering the best possible time for the Strawberry Team and Goran to meet with the team, and we, of course, welcome the opportunity to have a discussion with them at the F2F. With that in mind, we would like to suggest that the timing of this is probably key. Realistically speaking, we do believe that perhaps the most prudent slot on the agenda would be the end of the final day. This will allow us to draw a line under our main deliberations, and then focus on our discussion with the Strawberry Team. Following that, it seems fitting to end the meeting at ICANN HQ with Goran; seems to be a very natural scheduling choice. Kind regards, Alan [image: Donuts Inc.] <http://donuts.domains> Alan Woods Senior Compliance & Policy Manager, Donuts Inc. ------------------------------ The Victorians, 15-18 Earlsfort Terrace Dublin 2, County Dublin Ireland <https://www.facebook.com/donutstlds> <https://twitter.com/DonutsInc> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/donuts-inc> Please NOTE: This electronic message, including any attachments, may include privileged, confidential and/or inside information owned by Donuts Inc. . Any distribution or use of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by replying to this message and then delete it from your system. Thank you. On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 7:52 PM Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu> wrote:
I am ok with some people having a list of questions and comparing notes about them, but I want a free-flowing discussion with Goran and the strawberries (I wince every time I use this fruity term btw)
I don't want to get into political negotiations about what question I can ask and I don't want strategic bargaining over the list.
--MM
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IPC supports meeting with Goran and Strawberry Squad as suggested. We would be fine to do this over lunch if necessary. This is an important influencing factor for our work, so if a non-lunch session would be more productive, that would be our preference.
We agree to Janis' suggestion that we prepare a list of questions ahead of time, and would request a full report not necessarily limited to our proactive questions.
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Dear Janis and all,
I think meeting with the Strawberry team is important to the work of the legal team, where we would be able to know if they reached legal conclusions in relation to some of the components of the UAM. In addition, it would certainly be useful to the work of the entire team as we could base our work on realistic assumptions. Discussing with ICANN's CEO different stakeholders' liabilities is also important to the group's work. To conclude I do agree to meeting with both provided of course we have the time for this.
Kindest regards Hadia
Hadia Elminiawi Director, DNS Entrepreneurship Center National Telecom Regulatory Authority of Egypt
On Aug 20, 2019, at 12:00 PM, Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu<mailto: milton@gatech.edu>> wrote:
Sounds like a good idea to me. An hour or so devoted to soliciting answers to questions about ICANN’s status as a data controller would be very important contributor to our work, in my opinion. Others?
--MM
From: Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org<mailto: gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Janis Karklins Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 5:12 AM To: gnso-epdp-team@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org>; gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting
Dear EPDP Team,
In planning for our F2F meeting in Los Angeles in September, I wanted to test the idea of carving out time as part of our agenda to meet with ICANN’s CEO and/or the Strawberry Team to get an update on the status of their activities in relation to the UAM based on the TSG model. As the questions that ICANN org is preparing for DPAs are expected to also help inform the EPDP Team’s deliberations, it may be of interest to get an update on the status as well as expected timeline and sharing any question from EPDP team directed to DPAs. Similarly, there may be further questions that the EPDP Team has for ICANN’s CEO that may impact the team’s decision-making further down the line, for example, in relation to the liability ICANN org is expected or willing to take on in a potential UAM. If there is interest in such an engagement, I would like to propose that we start a google doc that allows for the collection of specific questions so we can make sure that any engagement is structured to achieve a constructive outcome.
I look forward to receiving your feedback.
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On 27-08-19 15:48, Alan Woods wrote:
With that in mind, we would like to suggest that the timing of this is probably key. Realistically speaking, we do believe that perhaps the most prudent slot on the agenda would be the end of the final day. This will allow us to draw a line under our main deliberations, and then focus on our discussion with the Strawberry Team. Following that, it seems fitting to end the meeting at ICANN HQ with Goran; seems to be a very natural scheduling choice.
Many of us also remember the EPDP Phase 1 meeting where we had Göran come in in the middle of the last day and tell us about what become the Strawberry team, and how many of us lost our momentum and motivation to keep on for the rest of the day. Julf
Alan, Thank you for your suggestion. To some extent the reaction of the Team to the Zero draft will determine the structure of F2F meeting. Leadership group will start discussing it after extraordinary meeting of the Team on coming Thursday 8pm UTC. Best regards JK On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 3:49 PM Alan Woods <alan@donuts.email> wrote:
Dear Janis,
The CPH has been pondering the best possible time for the Strawberry Team and Goran to meet with the team, and we, of course, welcome the opportunity to have a discussion with them at the F2F.
With that in mind, we would like to suggest that the timing of this is probably key. Realistically speaking, we do believe that perhaps the most prudent slot on the agenda would be the end of the final day. This will allow us to draw a line under our main deliberations, and then focus on our discussion with the Strawberry Team. Following that, it seems fitting to end the meeting at ICANN HQ with Goran; seems to be a very natural scheduling choice.
Kind regards,
Alan
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On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 7:52 PM Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu> wrote:
I am ok with some people having a list of questions and comparing notes about them, but I want a free-flowing discussion with Goran and the strawberries (I wince every time I use this fruity term btw)
I don't want to get into political negotiations about what question I can ask and I don't want strategic bargaining over the list.
--MM
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IPC supports meeting with Goran and Strawberry Squad as suggested. We would be fine to do this over lunch if necessary. This is an important influencing factor for our work, so if a non-lunch session would be more productive, that would be our preference.
We agree to Janis' suggestion that we prepare a list of questions ahead of time, and would request a full report not necessarily limited to our proactive questions.
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Dear Janis and all,
I think meeting with the Strawberry team is important to the work of the legal team, where we would be able to know if they reached legal conclusions in relation to some of the components of the UAM. In addition, it would certainly be useful to the work of the entire team as we could base our work on realistic assumptions. Discussing with ICANN's CEO different stakeholders' liabilities is also important to the group's work. To conclude I do agree to meeting with both provided of course we have the time for this.
Kindest regards Hadia
Hadia Elminiawi Director, DNS Entrepreneurship Center National Telecom Regulatory Authority of Egypt
On Aug 20, 2019, at 12:00 PM, Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu <mailto:milton@gatech.edu>> wrote:
Sounds like a good idea to me. An hour or so devoted to soliciting answers to questions about ICANN’s status as a data controller would be very important contributor to our work, in my opinion. Others?
--MM
From: Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org<mailto: gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Janis Karklins Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 5:12 AM To: gnso-epdp-team@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org>; gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting
Dear EPDP Team,
In planning for our F2F meeting in Los Angeles in September, I wanted to test the idea of carving out time as part of our agenda to meet with ICANN’s CEO and/or the Strawberry Team to get an update on the status of their activities in relation to the UAM based on the TSG model. As the questions that ICANN org is preparing for DPAs are expected to also help inform the EPDP Team’s deliberations, it may be of interest to get an update on the status as well as expected timeline and sharing any question from EPDP team directed to DPAs. Similarly, there may be further questions that the EPDP Team has for ICANN’s CEO that may impact the team’s decision-making further down the line, for example, in relation to the liability ICANN org is expected or willing to take on in a potential UAM. If there is interest in such an engagement, I would like to propose that we start a google doc that allows for the collection of specific questions so we can make sure that any engagement is structured to achieve a constructive outcome.
I look forward to receiving your feedback.
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Dear Janis: I guess it depends on whether Goran and the Strawberry Team have any information for us that may inform the week’s discussions. If they have some useful news or insights for us, then that information would be good to receive earlier, so the team can take it into consideration during the week’s work. If they just have updates that will not inform the week’s work, then later in the F2F. Either way, the presentation should be economical and to the point; ePDP leadership can to talk with Strawberry and figure out relevance and confirm goals. All best, --Greg From: Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Alan Woods Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 9:48 AM To: gnso-epdp-team@icann.org Cc: gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting Dear Janis, The CPH has been pondering the best possible time for the Strawberry Team and Goran to meet with the team, and we, of course, welcome the opportunity to have a discussion with them at the F2F. With that in mind, we would like to suggest that the timing of this is probably key. Realistically speaking, we do believe that perhaps the most prudent slot on the agenda would be the end of the final day. This will allow us to draw a line under our main deliberations, and then focus on our discussion with the Strawberry Team. Following that, it seems fitting to end the meeting at ICANN HQ with Goran; seems to be a very natural scheduling choice. 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On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 7:52 PM Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu <mailto:milton@gatech.edu> > wrote: I am ok with some people having a list of questions and comparing notes about them, but I want a free-flowing discussion with Goran and the strawberries (I wince every time I use this fruity term btw) I don't want to get into political negotiations about what question I can ask and I don't want strategic bargaining over the list. --MM -----Original Message----- From: King, Brian <Brian.King@markmonitor.com <mailto:Brian.King@markmonitor.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 6:44 PM To: Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi <Hadia@tra.gov.eg <mailto:Hadia@tra.gov.eg> >; Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu <mailto:milton@gatech.edu> > Cc: gnso-epdp-team@icann.org <mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org> ; gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org <mailto:gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting IPC supports meeting with Goran and Strawberry Squad as suggested. We would be fine to do this over lunch if necessary. This is an important influencing factor for our work, so if a non-lunch session would be more productive, that would be our preference. We agree to Janis' suggestion that we prepare a list of questions ahead of time, and would request a full report not necessarily limited to our proactive questions. Brian J. King Director of Internet Policy and Industry Affairs T +1 443 761 3726 markmonitor.com <http://markmonitor.com> MarkMonitor Protecting companies and consumers in a digital world -----Original Message----- From: Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org> > On Behalf Of Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 6:29 PM To: Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu <mailto:milton@gatech.edu> > Cc: gnso-epdp-team@icann.org <mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org> ; gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org <mailto:gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting Dear Janis and all, I think meeting with the Strawberry team is important to the work of the legal team, where we would be able to know if they reached legal conclusions in relation to some of the components of the UAM. In addition, it would certainly be useful to the work of the entire team as we could base our work on realistic assumptions. Discussing with ICANN's CEO different stakeholders' liabilities is also important to the group's work. To conclude I do agree to meeting with both provided of course we have the time for this. Kindest regards Hadia Hadia Elminiawi Director, DNS Entrepreneurship Center National Telecom Regulatory Authority of Egypt On Aug 20, 2019, at 12:00 PM, Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu <mailto:milton@gatech.edu> <mailto:milton@gatech.edu <mailto:milton@gatech.edu> >> wrote: Sounds like a good idea to me. An hour or so devoted to soliciting answers to questions about ICANN’s status as a data controller would be very important contributor to our work, in my opinion. Others? --MM From: Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org> >> On Behalf Of Janis Karklins Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 5:12 AM To: gnso-epdp-team@icann.org <mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org <mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org> >; gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org <mailto:gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org> <mailto:gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org <mailto:gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org> > Subject: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting Dear EPDP Team, In planning for our F2F meeting in Los Angeles in September, I wanted to test the idea of carving out time as part of our agenda to meet with ICANN’s CEO and/or the Strawberry Team to get an update on the status of their activities in relation to the UAM based on the TSG model. As the questions that ICANN org is preparing for DPAs are expected to also help inform the EPDP Team’s deliberations, it may be of interest to get an update on the status as well as expected timeline and sharing any question from EPDP team directed to DPAs. Similarly, there may be further questions that the EPDP Team has for ICANN’s CEO that may impact the team’s decision-making further down the line, for example, in relation to the liability ICANN org is expected or willing to take on in a potential UAM. If there is interest in such an engagement, I would like to propose that we start a google doc that allows for the collection of specific questions so we can make sure that any engagement is structured to achieve a constructive outcome. I look forward to receiving your feedback. 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Agree with Greg on this approach. Brian J. King Director of Internet Policy and Industry Affairs T +1 443 761 3726 markmonitor.com<http://www.markmonitor.com> MarkMonitor Protecting companies and consumers in a digital world From: Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Greg Aaron Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 9:46 AM To: 'Alan Woods' <alan@donuts.email>; gnso-epdp-team@icann.org Cc: gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting Dear Janis: I guess it depends on whether Goran and the Strawberry Team have any information for us that may inform the week’s discussions. If they have some useful news or insights for us, then that information would be good to receive earlier, so the team can take it into consideration during the week’s work. If they just have updates that will not inform the week’s work, then later in the F2F. Either way, the presentation should be economical and to the point; ePDP leadership can to talk with Strawberry and figure out relevance and confirm goals. All best, --Greg From: Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Alan Woods Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 9:48 AM To: gnso-epdp-team@icann.org Cc: gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting Dear Janis, The CPH has been pondering the best possible time for the Strawberry Team and Goran to meet with the team, and we, of course, welcome the opportunity to have a discussion with them at the F2F. With that in mind, we would like to suggest that the timing of this is probably key. Realistically speaking, we do believe that perhaps the most prudent slot on the agenda would be the end of the final day. This will allow us to draw a line under our main deliberations, and then focus on our discussion with the Strawberry Team. Following that, it seems fitting to end the meeting at ICANN HQ with Goran; seems to be a very natural scheduling choice. Kind regards, Alan [Image removed by sender. 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On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 7:52 PM Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu<mailto:milton@gatech.edu>> wrote: I am ok with some people having a list of questions and comparing notes about them, but I want a free-flowing discussion with Goran and the strawberries (I wince every time I use this fruity term btw) I don't want to get into political negotiations about what question I can ask and I don't want strategic bargaining over the list. --MM -----Original Message----- From: King, Brian <Brian.King@markmonitor.com<mailto:Brian.King@markmonitor.com>> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 6:44 PM To: Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi <Hadia@tra.gov.eg<mailto:Hadia@tra.gov.eg>>; Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu<mailto:milton@gatech.edu>> Cc: gnso-epdp-team@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org>; gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting IPC supports meeting with Goran and Strawberry Squad as suggested. We would be fine to do this over lunch if necessary. This is an important influencing factor for our work, so if a non-lunch session would be more productive, that would be our preference. We agree to Janis' suggestion that we prepare a list of questions ahead of time, and would request a full report not necessarily limited to our proactive questions. Brian J. King Director of Internet Policy and Industry Affairs T +1 443 761 3726 markmonitor.com<http://markmonitor.com> MarkMonitor Protecting companies and consumers in a digital world -----Original Message----- From: Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 6:29 PM To: Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu<mailto:milton@gatech.edu>> Cc: gnso-epdp-team@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org>; gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting Dear Janis and all, I think meeting with the Strawberry team is important to the work of the legal team, where we would be able to know if they reached legal conclusions in relation to some of the components of the UAM. In addition, it would certainly be useful to the work of the entire team as we could base our work on realistic assumptions. Discussing with ICANN's CEO different stakeholders' liabilities is also important to the group's work. To conclude I do agree to meeting with both provided of course we have the time for this. Kindest regards Hadia Hadia Elminiawi Director, DNS Entrepreneurship Center National Telecom Regulatory Authority of Egypt On Aug 20, 2019, at 12:00 PM, Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu<mailto:milton@gatech.edu><mailto:milton@gatech.edu<mailto:milton@gatech.edu>>> wrote: Sounds like a good idea to me. An hour or so devoted to soliciting answers to questions about ICANN’s status as a data controller would be very important contributor to our work, in my opinion. Others? --MM From: Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org>>> On Behalf Of Janis Karklins Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 5:12 AM To: gnso-epdp-team@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org><mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org>>; gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org><mailto:gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org>> Subject: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting Dear EPDP Team, In planning for our F2F meeting in Los Angeles in September, I wanted to test the idea of carving out time as part of our agenda to meet with ICANN’s CEO and/or the Strawberry Team to get an update on the status of their activities in relation to the UAM based on the TSG model. As the questions that ICANN org is preparing for DPAs are expected to also help inform the EPDP Team’s deliberations, it may be of interest to get an update on the status as well as expected timeline and sharing any question from EPDP team directed to DPAs. Similarly, there may be further questions that the EPDP Team has for ICANN’s CEO that may impact the team’s decision-making further down the line, for example, in relation to the liability ICANN org is expected or willing to take on in a potential UAM. If there is interest in such an engagement, I would like to propose that we start a google doc that allows for the collection of specific questions so we can make sure that any engagement is structured to achieve a constructive outcome. I look forward to receiving your feedback. 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Greg, Thank you for suggestion. I will see where we are with list of questions to ICANN Org and propose a draft letter to Goran for consideration of the Team by silent procedure. One of the requests will be to provide answer in writing prior the LA meeting. Hope it will work. JK On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 3:46 PM Greg Aaron <greg@illumintel.com> wrote:
Dear Janis:
I guess it depends on whether Goran and the Strawberry Team have any information for us that may inform the week’s discussions. If they have some useful news or insights for us, then that information would be good to receive earlier, so the team can take it into consideration during the week’s work. If they just have updates that will not inform the week’s work, then later in the F2F. Either way, the presentation should be economical and to the point; ePDP leadership can to talk with Strawberry and figure out relevance and confirm goals.
All best,
--Greg
*From:* Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Alan Woods *Sent:* Tuesday, August 27, 2019 9:48 AM *To:* gnso-epdp-team@icann.org *Cc:* gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting
Dear Janis,
The CPH has been pondering the best possible time for the Strawberry Team and Goran to meet with the team, and we, of course, welcome the opportunity to have a discussion with them at the F2F.
With that in mind, we would like to suggest that the timing of this is probably key. Realistically speaking, we do believe that perhaps the most prudent slot on the agenda would be the end of the final day. This will allow us to draw a line under our main deliberations, and then focus on our discussion with the Strawberry Team. Following that, it seems fitting to end the meeting at ICANN HQ with Goran; seems to be a very natural scheduling choice.
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Alan
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On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 7:52 PM Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu> wrote:
I am ok with some people having a list of questions and comparing notes about them, but I want a free-flowing discussion with Goran and the strawberries (I wince every time I use this fruity term btw)
I don't want to get into political negotiations about what question I can ask and I don't want strategic bargaining over the list.
--MM
-----Original Message----- From: King, Brian <Brian.King@markmonitor.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 6:44 PM To: Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi <Hadia@tra.gov.eg>; Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu> Cc: gnso-epdp-team@icann.org; gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org Subject: RE: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting
IPC supports meeting with Goran and Strawberry Squad as suggested. We would be fine to do this over lunch if necessary. This is an important influencing factor for our work, so if a non-lunch session would be more productive, that would be our preference.
We agree to Janis' suggestion that we prepare a list of questions ahead of time, and would request a full report not necessarily limited to our proactive questions.
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-----Original Message----- From: Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 6:29 PM To: Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu> Cc: gnso-epdp-team@icann.org; gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting
Dear Janis and all,
I think meeting with the Strawberry team is important to the work of the legal team, where we would be able to know if they reached legal conclusions in relation to some of the components of the UAM. In addition, it would certainly be useful to the work of the entire team as we could base our work on realistic assumptions. Discussing with ICANN's CEO different stakeholders' liabilities is also important to the group's work. To conclude I do agree to meeting with both provided of course we have the time for this.
Kindest regards Hadia
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On Aug 20, 2019, at 12:00 PM, Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu<mailto: milton@gatech.edu>> wrote:
Sounds like a good idea to me. An hour or so devoted to soliciting answers to questions about ICANN’s status as a data controller would be very important contributor to our work, in my opinion. Others?
--MM
From: Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org<mailto: gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Janis Karklins Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 5:12 AM To: gnso-epdp-team@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org>; gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-lead@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-epdp-team] Question in preparation of the LA F2F meeting
Dear EPDP Team,
In planning for our F2F meeting in Los Angeles in September, I wanted to test the idea of carving out time as part of our agenda to meet with ICANN’s CEO and/or the Strawberry Team to get an update on the status of their activities in relation to the UAM based on the TSG model. As the questions that ICANN org is preparing for DPAs are expected to also help inform the EPDP Team’s deliberations, it may be of interest to get an update on the status as well as expected timeline and sharing any question from EPDP team directed to DPAs. Similarly, there may be further questions that the EPDP Team has for ICANN’s CEO that may impact the team’s decision-making further down the line, for example, in relation to the liability ICANN org is expected or willing to take on in a potential UAM. If there is interest in such an engagement, I would like to propose that we start a google doc that allows for the collection of specific questions so we can make sure that any engagement is structured to achieve a constructive outcome.
I look forward to receiving your feedback.
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Alan Woods -
Greg Aaron -
Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi -
Janis Karklins -
Johan Helsingius -
King, Brian -
Mark Svancarek (CELA) -
Matt Serlin -
Mueller, Milton L