December 2015 - Gnso-igo-ingo-crp

IGO-INGO Curative Rights Protection PDP WG Meeting - Wednesday 16 December 2015 at 17:00 UTC
by Nathalie Peregrine Dec. 16, 2015

Dec. 16, 2015

Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the IGO-INGO Curative Rights Protection PDP WG Meeting held on Wednesday 16 December 2015 at 17:00 UTC at:<http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=NrFWbrBstcrPWP369qgbqlXiSKeL20xnUXz…>http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-igo-ingo-16dec15-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#dec The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#nov> Attendees: David Maher - PIR George Kirikos - Individual Jim Bikoff - IPC Kathy Kleiman – NCSG Lori Schulman - IPC Mason Cole - RySG Paul Tattersfield - Individual Petter Rindforth - IPC Phil Corwin - BC Jay Chapman - Individual Apologies: Osvaldo Nova – ISPCP Paul Keating - NCUC Mary Wong ICANN staff: Steve Chan Berry Cobb Glen de Saint Gery Michelle DeSmyter Nathalie Peregrine ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/9iCfAg Thank you. Kind regards, Nathalie Peregrine ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for Wednsday 16 December 2015 Nathalie Peregrine:Dear all, welcome to the IGO-INGO Curative Rights Protection PDP WG Meeting on the 16th December 2015 George Kirikos:Hi folks. Paul Tattersfield:Hi George, Everyone Petter Rindforth:Hi all, nice to "see" you again! George Kirikos:Hi Paul and Petter. How are you today? Paul Tattersfield:How's Canada - still snowing? George Kirikos:No snow yet in Toronto. :-) Paul Tattersfield:Greate thanks George and you? Paul Tattersfield:It's strange Peter we feel we can "see" each other but if we met in the real world we might be surprised how different we all looked :) George Kirikos:The internet isn't real?!?!?!? ;-) George Kirikos:(I'd use the phrase 'offline world' instead) :-) Paul Tattersfield:The Intenet is amazing I can get a new site out to Shanghai in under 2 seconds and most of Europe in under .4 seconds George Kirikos:Sorry to hear about the attacks in France, Nathalie. How are things these days? Nathalie Peregrine:thank you for thet George, very sweet of you. George Kirikos:(and Glen too) glen de saint gery:Thank you for thinking of us George, we really appreciate it George Kirikos:Here was Phil's email, in case folks missed it:http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo-crp/2015-December/000465.html Nathalie Peregrine:Kathy Kleiman has joined the AC room George Kirikos:Of course, we know IGOs (e.g. World Bank) have already used the UDRP, courts, etc. Steve Chan:I'll pass along a message to Mary to infor the WG if there is any additional information re: the small group work Kathy Kleiman:Whew, finally online. It took a long time to connect via Adobe, but I have been listening on the phone line too. George Kirikos:Just in time for the meeting's end, Kathy. :-) Paul Tattersfield:Kathy, I came early because last tiem I had problems with AC - this time, it went straight in! Lori:No problems today either. I usually have to access the screen for the presentation and then dial in. Kathy Kleiman:@George: better late than never :-) Philip Corwin:Welcome Kathy. If you read my email you already know what I reported. Kathy Kleiman:yes, I read your report, and thank you for all your work, Phil!! Philip Corwin:Very welcome George Kirikos:ICANN55 is early March (March 5-10, 2016), so if the report comes in late January, it might be tough to get things done by early March. George Kirikos:ICANN56 = June 27-30, 2016 (in Panama) Lori:Also tough with all eyes on accountability Lori:which is imploding George Kirikos:Bye everyone. Happy holidays! Paul Tattersfield:Bye all, just to add, you did a very good job Phil, it's great to see all the efforts you have being put in on behalf of the working group taking shape. Lori:Happy Holidays everyone! Kathy Kleiman:Happy Holidays, All! Lori:Yes, Phil is a fabulous co-chair Kathy Kleiman:Tx Petter and Phil and All. Jay Chapman:thanks, All. Happy Holidays everyone! Lori:ciao

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- Proposed Agenda
by Steve Chan Dec. 16, 2015

Dec. 16, 2015

Dear WG Members, The proposed agenda for our upcoming WG call, scheduled for Wednesday 16 December 2015, is below: 1. Roll call/updates to SOI 2. Update on work of external legal expert (Phil Corwin) 3. Next steps and planning toward ICANN55 Apologies for the late delivery. Best, Steven Chan Sr. Policy Manager ICANN 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094-2536 steve.chan(a)icann.org <mailto:steve.chan@icann.org> direct: +1.310.301.3886 mobile: +1.310.339.4410 tel: +1.310.301.5800 fax: +1.310.823.8649

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Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] - Proposed Agenda
by Paul Keating Dec. 16, 2015

Dec. 16, 2015

Phil and all, I am sorry but I have an emergency board meeting that I must attend starting at 6PM my time. I will thus unfortunately not be able to attend today's call. Paul Keating From: <gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Steve Chan <steve.chan(a)icann.org> Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 4:44 PM To: "gnso-igo-ingo-crp(a)icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp(a)icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] - Proposed Agenda > Dear WG Members, > > The proposed agenda for our upcoming WG call, scheduled for Wednesday 16 > December 2015, is below: > 1. Roll call/updates to SOI > 2. Update on work of external legal expert (Phil Corwin) > 3. Next steps and planning toward ICANN55 > Apologies for the late delivery. > > Best, > > > > > Steven Chan > Sr. Policy Manager > > ICANN > 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 > Los Angeles, CA 90094-2536 > steve.chan(a)icann.org > <mailto:steve.chan@icann.org> > direct: +1.310.301.3886 > mobile: +1.310.339.4410 > tel: +1.310.301.5800 > fax: +1.310.823.8649 > _______________________________________________ Gnso-igo-ingo-crp mailing list > Gnso-igo-ingo-crp(a)icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-igo-ingo-crp

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Report on Meeting with Prof. Edward Swaine
by Phil Corwin Dec. 15, 2015

Dec. 15, 2015

Members of the IGO CRP WG: In preparation for our final WG call of 2015 tomorrow, I wanted to provide a summary of my meeting with Prof. Edward Swaine of George Washington University Law School in Washington, DC. As you know, he has been retained by ICANN to provide answers to our questions regarding the generally accepted scope of IGO sovereign immunity and its application within the UDRP context. I met with Prof. Swaine on the afternoon of Friday, December 11th at his law school office and we spoke for just over an hour. My main purpose in requesting the meeting was, besides establishing a more personal line of communications, to acquaint him with the history, purpose and operation of the UDRP (and, to some extent, the URS) and specifically with the option for a Respondent to file an intervening court action, and for either party to "appeal" a UDRP decision to a court of mutual jurisdiction. I also explained the history and purpose of our WG as well as some of the internal ICANN "politics" and dynamics concerning interactions between the Board, GAC & IGOs, and GNSO. We reviewed the WG's conclusions so far regarding our decision that there was no need to cover INGOs, and that IGOs which had asserted their Paris Convention Article 6ter protections would have standing to file a UDRP or URS, as well as our finding that some IGOs over the years had made use of the UDRO notwithstanding the sovereign immunity issue. Finally, we reviewed the specific questions posed by the WG. Throughout the discussion Prof. Swaine asked a variety of questions. I also made him aware, and he made note, of the guidance for UDRP experts provided on WIPO's website as well as the recently published volume on Domain Name Arbitration authored by Gerald Levine; its final chapter extensively discusses Paragraph 4k of the Policy (submission to a court of competent jurisdiction). Prof. Swaine is just undertaking the project and has not reached any preliminary conclusions, but believes he can provide a response to our questions in January 2016. I have suggested that he share a near-final draft so that we can review it and make comments and inquiries before it is deemed final. I also made clear that Petter and I as well as ICANN support staff will be happy to respond to any of his questions as he moves forward. I hope you find that report useful. I'll be happy to discuss the meeting further and answer any questions during our call tomorrow. We all hope that once we receive the Professor's responses to our questions we can resume our previously quick pace and move expeditiously toward a final report and recommendations. Speak to you on the call tomorrow. Very best, Philip Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal Virtualaw LLC 1155 F Street, NW Suite 1050 Washington, DC 20004 202-559-8597/Direct 202-559-8750/Fax 202-255-6172/cell Twitter: @VlawDC "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey

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Meeting with Prof. Edward Swaine/Next WG Call
by Phil Corwin Dec. 10, 2015

Dec. 10, 2015

Dear IGO CRP WG Members: I know that it may be startling to receive an email regarding the IGO CRP WG after months of inactivity, but rather than hibernating for the winter we are on the cusp of starting new forward movement. First, this coming Friday, December 11th, at 2pm ET I shall be meeting with Professor Edward Swaine of George Washington University Law School here in Washington, DC. Professor Swaine was selected to be the contractor to answer the questions settled upon by our WG this past summer regarding the scope of sovereign immunity of IGOs (text below for your recollection). The primary purpose of the meeting will be to brief Prof. Swaine on UDRP practice and when an appeal to a national court might arise, answer any questions he may have, and get a sense of when he expects to complete his work and deliver a response to our questions. While we cannot add additional questions to those listed below, if you have clarifications or additional thoughts regarding those questions, or particular points you wish me to bring to his attention, please get them to me no later than Friday morning so that I can raise them in my conversation. Second, it is the thought of your Co-Chairs and supporting ICANN staff that it would be useful to have a WG call on Wednesday, December 16th to at least get a debrief from me on how my meeting with the Professor went. This will likely be our last call of 2016, but we expect to be able to get back on track early in 2016 and proceed at our previous pace once Professor Swaine's analysis is received. You will be receiving a direct notice/invitation from staff of the December 16th call. I look forward to receiving your thoughts on matters to be raise with Professor Swaine. Best regards, Philip ***************************** QUESTIONS ON JURISDICTIONAL IMMUNITY FOR INTERNATIONAL GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS I. Background We write to seek your assistance in ensuring that we have an accurate understanding of the current position in public international law on the issue of immunity of international governmental organizations ("IGOs") from the jurisdiction of national courts as it applies to the litigation of trademark and domain name disputes. We are the co-chairs of an ICANN Working Group ("WG"), chartered to consider whether ICANN's current dispute resolution processes-which provide an alternative to litigation for parties--should be amended to better address the needs of IGOs. The dispute resolution processes in question - the Uniform Dispute Resolution Policy ("UDRP")[1] and the Uniform Rapid Suspension procedure ("URS")[2] enable trademark owners to seek either a transfer, cancellation or suspension of an identical or confusingly similar domain name registered by a third party in bad faith (among other criteria). Both the UDRP and URS are mandatory administrative proceedings, the terms and rules of which are incorporated by reference within each domain name registration agreement. As such, a registrant of a domain name must contractually agree to the provisions of the UDRP and URS as a condition for registering a domain name. Although mandatory for domain name registrants, neither the UDRP nor the URS are the exclusive means of dispute resolution, as litigation may be commenced prior to, during or subsequent to a UDRP or URS[3]. [4] UDRP and URS disputes are resolved by third party providers "approved" by ICANN ("ADR Providers")[5]. In the UDRP context, a Respondent may require that the dispute be considered by either a single panelist or a three-member panel. Once constituted the panel reviews the complaint and any response, making a decision based upon filings submitted, without in-person-hearings or oral testimony. To prevail on a complaint, the Complainant must prove that (1) the domain name is identical or confusingly similar to a trademark mark in which the Complainant has rights; (2) the domain registrant has no legitimate rights or interests in the domain; ; and (3) the domain was both registered and is being used in bad faith. The complainant must demonstrate these factors by a preponderance of the evidence in a UDRP action, and by clear and convincing evidence in a URS. The URS has an internal appeals mechanism. The UDRP does not. The filing of a URS does not preclude an unsuccessful Complainant from subsequently filing a UDRP against the same Respondent. I. The Issue and Relevant Considerations Some IGOs have expressed concerns to ICANN about the requirement in the UDRP that a Complainant agree to a "Mutual Jurisdiction". The concerned IGOs have expressed the position that the requirement to select a Mutual Jurisdiction conflicts with IGO privileges and immunities under international law. The requirement that a Complainant agree to one of two defined "Mutual Jurisdictions" is a condition precedent to the filing of a UDRP complaint[6]. Mutual Jurisdiction is defined identically in both the UDRP[7] and URS[8] as follows: "Mutual Jurisdiction means a court jurisdiction at the location of either (a) the principal office of the Registrar (provided the domain-name holder has submitted in its Registration Agreement to that jurisdiction for court adjudication of disputes concerning or arising from the use of the domain name) or (b) the domain-name holder's address as shown for the registration of the domain name in Registrar's Whois database at the time the complaint is submitted to the Provider." In the course of our preliminary research, we have come across a number of instances where, notwithstanding any jurisdictional concerns, IGOs have successfully filed complaints under the UDRP. Because these cases demonstrate that there are times (even if these turn out to be exceptional) when an IGO will decide to agree to the jurisdictional requirement of the UDRP, we are seeking to better understand the nature of IGOs' concern over mandatory administrative proceedings in the context of jurisdictional immunity. Specifically, the WG is currently seeking to better understand the application and scope of the principle of immunity to IGOs; specifically, jurisdictional immunity. The WG is aware that an IGO is commonly viewed as an organization established by an international treaty and which may possess international legal personality of its own, with members that may (though not universally) consist of sovereign nation states. As such, the WG acknowledges that it is possible that IGOs can enjoy special privileges and immunities under international law under some circumstances. We seek understanding as to whether, but for the requirement to select a Mutual Jurisdiction, immunity would apply in the case of the UDRP or URS, thereby shielding the IGO from litigation arising out of or in connection with disputes over a respondent's registration of a domain name that matches or that is confusingly similar to the IGO's name or acronym. Our initial research into the topic indicates to us that there is no universal legal rule that defines a single scope of jurisdictional immunity for IGOs. Our sense is that modern public international law has evolved such that the concept of "absolute" immunity has largely given way to the more nuanced idea of "restricted" (or qualified) immunity. It would appear to us that while States generally accept the abstract concept of IGO immunity, they differ on the extent to which they will grant the immunity in particular cases[9]. Further, an increasing number of countries now consider such immunity to be functional only. Thus, while immunity may be recognized for acts inherently related to the IGO's performing its public functions, it may not be recognized for acts of a commercial nature. Many on the WG are of the opinion that trademark and domain name disputes are inherently commercial in nature such that "functional" immunity would not bar litigation. The WG is further aware that a distinction may need to be drawn between a State (or government) and an IGO, given their different natures and the diversity of types of IGOs. We are informed that the distinction may matter on issues such as the source of jurisdictional immunity - such as whether this is derived from treaty or from customary international law[10] - and in relation to specific questions such as when a particular IGO will be recognized as possessing legal personality within a particular country. As a final background matter, our WG has reached a preliminary decision that an IGO that cannot show traditional registered or common law trademark protection may nevertheless have the requisite standing to file a UDRP or URS complaint if it has opted for the protections afforded by Article 6ter of the Paris Convention. It is our understanding that the Paris Convention affords protection to IGOs to the extent recognized by national trademark laws of Convention signatories as well as members of the World Trade Organization (WTO). The WG is concerned that a potential policy recommendation that ICANN remove the existing rules pertaining to litigation and "Mutual Jurisdiction" could preempt the right to judicial access of a domain registrant/respondent who wishes to resort to formal court proceedings instead of the informal, streamlined and non-evidentiary nature of the URDP or URS. The UDRP and URS were intended as a speedy alternative to traditional litigation and were drafted as a result of a consensus-driven process, which sought to balance the rights of the respective parties. The WG believes that neither the UDRP nor the URS should be seen as a platform for altering pre-existing rights or conflicting with existing or developing principles of law. In addition, while it is well recognized that ICANN should strive to protect existing legal rights, it has no authority to create or extinguish such rights - including any rights possessed by a domain registrant to seek redress in a court of applicable jurisdiction. We would therefore greatly welcome your expertise and advice on this matter, which would assist us in fully understanding the state of public international law in regards to jurisdictional immunity for IGOs. ______________________________________ 3. Questions 1. In relation to the requirement to select a "Mutual Jurisdiction" in the UDRP or URS context, is a complaining IGO entitled to immunity in connection with judicial action brought by a domain name registrant arising from an asserted conflict between the IGO's and the domain name registrant's rights - even when the IGO has initiated the dispute under a dispute resolution process that is in addition to, and not a replacement for, the registrant's legal rights under its applicable national law? 2. Are there procedural or other mechanisms which an IGO may use to escape or avoid becoming subject to judicial action brought by a domain name registrant arising from an asserted conflict between the IGO's and the registrant's rights?[11] 3. To the best of your knowledge, how do IGOs generally handle standard commercial contractual clauses concerning submission to a particular jurisdiction or dispute resolution method? 4. Are there additional principles, nuances or other relevant information (including to your knowledge general principles of law which have been applied by States) that are relevant to our work to find a solution and conclusion on domain name disputes related to IGOs? On behalf of our Working Group, we thank you in advance for your consideration of these questions. If you are unsure as to any matter being requested, please do not hesitate to contact us for clarification. Your reply, as well as any additional comments/information that you may wish to make, will be important for our better understanding the needs of IGOs' concerning the immunity issue and our eventual policy recommendations on how to solve any problems and/or ambiguities. Sincerely, Philip Corwin & Petter Rindforth (Working Group co-chairs) ANNEX A: LIST OF SELECTED COUNTRIES WITH LEGISLATION CONCERNING IGO IMMUNITIES Australia - the Foreign States Immunities Act (1985), granting immunity to foreign States as well as individuals or corporations that are their agencies and instrumentalities, subject to certain exceptions (including a "commercial transactions" exception) Canada - the State Immunity Act (1985), granting immunity to foreign States, their political subdivisions and agencies, subject to certain exceptions (including a "commercial activity" exception); also the Foreign Missions and International Organizations Act[12] (1991), granting immunity to IGOs[13] similar to that enjoyed by the UN under the relevant UN Convention (see below) Malaysia - the International Organizations (Privileges and Immunities) Act (1992), applying the two Conventions protecting the UN and its specialized agencies (see below) as well as extending protection to other international organizations to be designated from time to time by the Minister for Foreign Affairs The United Kingdom - the International Organisations Act (1968), granting immunity to those IGOs that the UK is a member[14] of and that have been recognized to have legal personality by an Order in Council The United States - the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act (1976), granting immunity to foreign States, their political subdivisions, agencies and instrumentalities, subject to certain exceptions (including a "commercial activity" exception); also, the International Organizations Immunities Act (1945), granting IGOs "the same immunity from suit and every form of judicial process as is enjoyed by foreign governments". Note: Because the IOIA predates the FSIA, we understand that there is some disagreement amongst US courts and academics as to whether the more restrictive provisions of the FSIA now apply also to IGOs - this arises because the IOIA was enacted when the prevailing theory of immunity was more of an absolute one. Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal Virtualaw LLC 1155 F Street, NW Suite 1050 Washington, DC 20004 202-559-8597/Direct 202-559-8750/Fax 202-255-6172/cell Twitter: @VlawDC "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey ________________________________ [1] The UDRP and its accompanying Rules have been in place since 1999, and may be found at http://archive.icann.org/en/udrp/udrp-policy-24oct99.htm and http://archive.icann.org/en/udrp/udrp-rules-24oct99.htm, respectively. [2] The URS was created recently as a rights protection mechanism for the new gTLD program. Learn more about the URS here http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/urs/procedure-01mar13-en.pdf and http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/urs/rules-28jun13-en.pdf, respectively. [3] Both the UDRP and URS are designed to be faster and cheaper than most court proceedings; it is an optional addition to, and not a preemptive substitute for, a Complainant or Respondent's rights and remedies under applicable law, including access to the judicial system. As an ICANN Consensus Policy, it is binding on all ICANN registries and registrars (who are contractually bound to ICANN) and applies to all domain name registrants by way of their registration agreements with registrars. [4] UDRP, Rule 18(a); URS, Rule 17(a). [5] ICANN maintains no contractual relationship with any ADR Provider and does not manage or control the actions of any ADR Provider or their panelists. [6] UDRP, Rule 3(b)(xiii); URS, Rule 3(b)(ix. [7] UDRP, Rule 1 (Definitions). [8] UDRP, Rule 1 (Definitions). [9] See Appendix A for a list of illustrative laws in select countries that the WG came across as part of our research. [10] Our limited research on the case law on this seems to show the position to be rather fragmented, with conflicting decisions in some countries (e.g. Belgium, France, Germany, Italy) and a more prevalent view in others (e.g. the Netherlands courts have tended to recognize IGO immunity as being based on customary international law). [11] The WG has been informed that some IGOs may rely on national governments or governmental agencies to bring suit. In addition, we have found cases where a third party (e.g. a law firm) holds trademark rights in its own name for the benefit of an IGO and thus is able to file a UDRP complaint on behalf of that IGO. [12] We note that this statute contains a definition of "international organization", meaning "an intergovernmental organization, whether or not established by treaty, of which two or more states are members"; this seems more specific than the definition used in the Vienna Convention. [13] We found the most current list of IGOs that have been granted protection in Canada at http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/F-29.4/. [14] For those IGOs where the UK is not a member, we note the Act can still apply if the organization "maintains or proposes to maintain an establishment in the UK".

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