March 2015 - Gnso-igo-ingo-crp

FW: Request for Input: IGO/INGO Curative Rights
by Glen de Saint Géry March 7, 2015

March 7, 2015

FYI Submitted by the Registries Stakeholder Group Kind regards, Glen From: Paul Diaz Sent: vendredi 6 mars 2015 22:21 To: Glen de Saint Géry Cc: Keith Drazek; Cherie Stubbs Subject: Re: Request for Input: IGO/INGO Curative Rights Hi Glen, Keith asked me to follow up on this issue. The RySG has been actively following this WG's proceedings, and is satisfied with the current state of those efforts. As such, we don't have any comments to offer at this time. Would you please convey that to the WG leadership? Best, P Paul Diaz Alternate Chair, RySG Begin forwarded message: From: Glen de Saint G谷ry <Glen(a)icann.org<mailto:Glen@icann.org>> Date: March 5, 2015 at 5:43:47 PM EST To: "KEITH DRAZEK (kdrazek(a)Verisign.com<mailto:kdrazek@Verisign.com>)" <kdrazek(a)verisign.com<mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com>>, "Cherie Stubbs" <rysgsecretariat(a)gmail.com<mailto:rysgsecretariat@gmail.com>> Cc: "Petter Rindforth (petter.rindforth(a)fenixlegal.eu<mailto:petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu>) (petter.rindforth(a)fenixlegal.eu<mailto:petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu>)" <petter.rindforth(a)fenixlegal.eu<mailto:petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu>>, "Phil Corwin" <psc(a)vlaw-dc.com<mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com>>, Steve Chan <steve.chan(a)icann.org<mailto:steve.chan@icann.org>>, Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, "gnso.secretariat(a)gnso.icann.org<mailto:gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org>" <gnso.secretariat(a)gnso.icann.org<mailto:gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org>> Subject: FW: Request for Input: IGO/INGO Curative Rights Dear Keith, On behalf of Philip Corwin & Petter Rindforth (WG Co-Chairs) of the PDP IGO-INGO Access to Curative Rights Protection Mechanisms WG, we would like to seek any comments and input that you and the organization you Chair are able to provide regarding the email originally sent 9 December 2014. While the letter accompanying that email had requested response by 23 January 2015, comments and input are very much still welcome. If you have any questions, please let us know. Thank you. Kind regards. Glen Glen de Saint G谷ry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat(a)gnso.icann.org<mailto:gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org> http://gnso.icann.org<http://gnso.icann.org/> From: Glen de Saint G谷ry [mailto:Glen@icann.org] Sent: vendredi 9 janvier 2015 09:39 To: KEITH DRAZEK (kdrazek(a)Verisign.com<mailto:kdrazek@Verisign.com>); Cherie Stubbs Cc: Petter Rindforth (petter.rindforth(a)fenixlegal.eu<mailto:petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu>) (petter.rindforth(a)fenixlegal.eu<mailto:petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu>); Phil Corwin; Mary Wong; Steve Chan; gnso.secretariat(a)gnso.icann.org<mailto:gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org> Subject: FW: Request for Input: IGO/INGO Curative Rights Dear Keith, On behalf of Philip Corwin & Petter Rindforth (WG Co-Chairs) of the PDP IGO-INGO Access to Curative Rights Protection Mechanisms WG, we would like to provide a friendly reminder that the WG hopes to receive any comments and input that you and the organization you Chair are able to provide, regarding the email below, by Friday, 23 January 2015. If you have any questions, please let us know. Thank you very much. Kind regards, Glen Glen de Saint G谷ry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat(a)gnso.icann.org<mailto:gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org> http://gnso.icann.org<http://gnso.icann.org/> From: Glen de Saint G谷ry Sent: vendredi 12 d谷cembre 2014 00:10 To: KEITH DRAZEK (kdrazek(a)Verisign.com<mailto:kdrazek@Verisign.com>) Cc: Steve Chan; Cherie Stubbs; Glen de Saint G谷ry; gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> Subject: FW: Request for Input: IGO/INGO Curative Rights Dear Keith, In regards to the email below, it was brought to our attention that there is some confusion regarding which questions the working group is seeking feedback. Please see the revised message below from the co-chairs of the group: "On behalf of Philip Corwin & Petter Rindforth (WG Co-Chairs) of the PDP IGO-INGO Access to Curative Rights Protection Mechanisms WG, we seek to inform you that the WG has come to some initial conclusions and wish to update you on the activities within this WG, as well as request your input on 4 questions contained in the attachment to the original email" Kind Regards, Glen Glen de Saint G谷ry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat(a)gnso.icann.org<mailto:gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org> http://gnso.icann.org<http://gnso.icann.org/> From: Glen de Saint G谷ry Sent: mercredi 10 d谷cembre 2014 00:30 To: KEITH DRAZEK (kdrazek(a)Verisign.com<mailto:kdrazek@Verisign.com>) Cc: Cherie Stubbs; Glen de Saint G谷ry; Steve Chan Subject: Request for Input: IGO/INGO Curative Rights Dear Keith, On behalf of Philip Corwin & Petter Rindforth (WG Co--坼Chairs) of the PDP IGO-INGO Access to Curative Rights Protection Mechanisms WG we request your input on: (1) Whether the Uniform Dispute Resolution Policy (UDRP) and/or the Uniform Rapid Suspension procedure (URS) should be amended, and if so, how; or (2) Whether a separate, narrowly-tailored dispute resolution procedure modeled on the UDRP and/or the URS should be developed, in either case to address the specific needs and concerns of International Governmental Organizations (IGOs) and/or International Non-Governmental Organizations (INGOs). Please see the attached document for full details. Thank you very much. Kind regards, Glen Glen de Saint G谷ry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat(a)gnso.icann.org<mailto:gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org> http://gnso.icann.org<http://gnso.icann.org/> ※This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may be constituted as attorney work product. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, notify sender immediately and delete this message immediately.§ <ICANN-IGO-Letter to GNSO SG Cs for initial input-Final_draft.pdf>

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Afnic (.fr) "fundamental terms" and IGOs
by George Kirikos March 4, 2015

March 4, 2015

Hi folks, Afnic, the registry operator for .fr (France) maintained a list of "fundamental terms" -- names that are reserved for one reason or another. This policy was later changed due to a court decision, see: http://www.hoganlovells.com/files/Publication/b5f57d37-4db5-4293-84db-64d28… That list of names is at: http://www.afnic.fr/fr/ressources/documents-de-reference/chartes/termes-sou… and I find it interesting that only a small set of IGO-related names are on the list: Organismes Internationaux asean, bird, bit, casque-bleu, casque-bleus, casquebleu, casquebleus, casques-bleu, casques-bleus, casquesbleu, casquesbleus, ceca, cee, cij, cjce, cnuced, euratom, fao, gatt, gmi, kafor, kfor, nato, omi, omm, ompi, oms, ong, onu, opep, otan, oua, pnud, tpi, uit, uncitral, unidir, unrwa, wipo, xxunesco (much shorter than the ICANN reserved list, for example) Sincerely, George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/

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MP3 IGO WG - Wednesday, 04 March 2015 at 1700 UTC
by Terri Agnew March 4, 2015

March 4, 2015

Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for IGO-INGO Access to Curative Rights Protection Mechanisms Working Group call on Wednesday, 04 March 2015 at 1700 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-igo-ingo-crp-access-04mar15-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#mar The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: George Kirikos - Individual Petter Rindforth - IPC Phil Corwin - BC Kristine Dorrain- Individual Mason Cole - RySG Val Sherman - IPC Osvaldo Novoa - ISPCP Paul Tattersfiled - Individual Jay Chapman - Individual Jim Bikoff - IPC Kathy Kleiman - NCUC Mike Rodenbaugh - IPC Apologies: Imran Ahmed Shah - NCUC ICANN staff: Mary Wong Steve Chan Berry Cobb Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo-crp/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/97rhAg Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for Wednesday, 04 March 2015: Terri Agnew:Dear all, welcome to the IGO-INGO Curative Rights Protection PDP WG Meeting on the 4th March 2015 George Kirikos:Hi everyone. George Kirikos:Hey Jay & Val. Jay Chapman:Hi George. Hello All. Val S:Hi George! George Kirikos:I'm playing with colours. :-) George Kirikos:Hi Phil. Philip Corwin:Hello all Val S:Jim Bikoff and David Heasley will be joining us a little late George Kirikos:I'm always reminded of the Truman Show quote.... Good morning, and in case I don't see ya, good afternoon, good evening, and good night! Terri Agnew:Welcome Paul Tattersfiled Kristine Dorrain-NAF:I can't hear anyone. Are we live? George Kirikos:Yes, we are, Kristine. Terri Agnew:Mike Rodenbaugh has joined audio Kristine Dorrain-NAF:Ok, I'll start over. BRB George Kirikos:You might try 1-866-692-5726 if you're having audio probs. George Kirikos:(code = IGO) Terri Agnew:@Krisitne, please let me k now if you would like a dial out on telephone George Kirikos:She might be 'K'? George Kirikos:Or, that might be Kathy. Val S:Jim is now on the audio bridge Terri Agnew:Kathy Kleiman has joined K:Sorry All, it jumped in - this is Kathy (Kleiman) Kathy Kleiman:@Mary, what is his name? Terri Agnew:Kristine Dorrain has rejoined George Kirikos:Certainly there's more than 1 person in the world qualified to opine on that legal concept. Petter Rindforth:When can we have the report from the Expert? Mary Wong:@Petter we hope to get his agreement to assist us within the next couple of days, and a report within the next week or two max. Petter Rindforth:Perfect! George Kirikos:Did ICANN legal get a chance to do a Westlaw search, or other search, for relevant legal precedents? Kristine Dorrain-NAF:No one warned me about that, but sure. :) Terri Agnew:Osvaldo Novoa has joined Osvaldo Novoa:Hello all, sorry I am late Mary Wong:@George, we did some research on sovereign immunity generally, including the two Vienna Conventions (1969 and 1986) to better understand the nature, history and scope of the principle.;However, we haven't done specific research on IGO uses or waivers of that protection in any specifi c instance/ Kathy Kleiman:@George: what is the "express lane limit" you are referring to? George Kirikos:"express lane"? Where did I mention that? George Kirikos:Oh, maybe you mean the WORD limit? George Kirikos:(length of responses?) George Kirikos:It was in the "No express length limit", in this document (which wasn't actually correct). George Kirikos:Bottom of page 3 of the document on screen. Kathy Kleiman:Tx George! George Kirikos:We can't scroll the document, it seems, but if I change the scale to 50%, and use the arrows, I can flip pages. Philip Corwin:I can scroll George Kirikos:Odd, for some reason I can't (maybe an Opera/Flash issue). Paul Tattersfield:You should be able to save it George and use it in an external viewer George Kirikos:Good artists copy, great artists steal? :-) Terri Agnew:@George , adobe prefers Firefox browser. I wil email you a link to check to make sure you have updated plug in's Paul Tattersfield:Kathy +1 George Kirikos:Thanks, Terri. It used to work, but I read the document this morning, in any event. George Kirikos:Most new gTLD domains won't get any traffic, so there's nothing for the alleged cybersquatter to monetize. George Kirikos:http://domains.adrforum.com/decision.aspx (change ruleset to "URS" to see past decisions). George Kirikos:Only 255 cases at NAF. George Kirikos:who.* is reserved, though, so one couldn't do a gripe site in any event. currently. Mary Wong:Yes, it's reserved on an interim basis pending resolution of the different advice/recommendations from the GAC and GNSO on IGO acronym protections on a preventative basis (rather than curative, which is the province of this WG). George Kirikos:Unlimited Appendices/Exhibits, to breach the word limits in a sneaky way. :-) George Kirikos:(at least at WIPO) Paul Tattersfield:In a 3 member panel is the selected panelist an advocate for the complainant or defendant? Kristine Dorrain-NAF:Yes, but you risk angering your panelist if you do that. Kristine Dorrain-NAF:No, no advocates. Kathy Kleiman:Tx Kristine! Paul Tattersfield:Thanks Kristine George Kirikos:Some folks have filed multiple UDRPs for the same name, though. George Kirikos:(after time has passed, citing 'new evidence', etc.) Kristine Dorrain-NAF:Yes, but lots of those get denied under Res Judicata. Kathy Kleiman:res judicata makes sense... George Kirikos:255 cases on NAF's website. George Kirikos:Scroll up for the link. George Kirikos:Usually 4,000+ UDRPs/year (2K each for NAF/WIPO). Kathy Kleiman:Very useful session - tx you! Mary Wong:Yes, thank you Kristine and Jim! Paul Tattersfield:Thank you Kristine very helpful today Val S:Thanks Phil, Kristine, and all! Petter Rindforth:Yes, we still wait for their real response Mary Wong:The IPC and ISPCP responses are posted to the WG wiki. Mary Wong:We'll follow up with the remaining SG/Cs and the GAC Secretariat. Jay Chapman:Thanks, all! Good day George Kirikos:Bye everyone. Have a nice day. Paul Tattersfield:Thanks all, bye Mary Wong:Thanks phil and everyone!

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Agenda and documents for WG meeting on Wednesday 4 March
by Mary Wong March 4, 2015

March 4, 2015

Dear WG members, We hope the short break from our WG following the face-to-face facilitated meeting in Singapore last month has been refreshing and useful. Thank you again to all who were able to attend that meeting, whether in person or remotely, and for filling out the survey at the end! Here is the proposed agenda for the WG call scheduled for Wednesday 4 March at the usual time: 1. Roll call/updates to SOI 2. Update on research on sovereign immunity (WG Chairs/staff) 3. Discussion of differences between the UDRP and URS (All) 4. Next steps/next meeting You will note that the agenda follows up on the 13 February face-to-face discussions, such that pending receipt of input from international law experts we will be continuing with the next step of our Work Plan, in agenda item #3. For this discussion, please refer to the comparison chart first prepared by Jim Bikoff for Sub-Group A, available on the WG wiki at: https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/49354393/URS-UDRP%20Compari son%20Chart%20v2.doc?version=1&modificationDate=1417621822000&api=v2. The actual UDRP and associated Rules can be found here: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/udrp-2012-02-25-en?routing_type=path; and the URS procedure and rules can be found, respectively, at: http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/urs/procedure-01mar13-en.pdf and http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/urs/rules-28jun13-en.pdf. As a further follow up to our 13 February meeting, staff has updated the draft paragraphs from the UDRP that the WG discussed several weeks ago concerning possible language that could cover the issue of standing, with reference to the legal protections for IGOs contained in Article 6ter of the Paris Convention. We attach the relevant updated language here for your review and subsequent WG discussion. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org

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