MUCH BETTER way of addressing this. Thank you Mary. On 5/10/18, 5:56 PM, "Mary Wong" <mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Dear all,
As all Working Group members have received copies of the documents prepared by George, in view of the sensitivities around whether and what form of polling is acceptable to the Working Group as a whole and the fact that we have not conducted a formal consensus call of the kind typical for a GNSO PDP, Susan (when facilitating the call coming up) will include a discussion on the consensus process to be followed.
We thank Working Group members who have provided their feedback through the various opportunities and mechanisms provided to date.
Cheers Mary & Steve
On 5/10/18, 11:51, "Gnso-igo-ingo-crp on behalf of George Kirikos" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org on behalf of icann@leap.com> wrote:
Again, it was never a poll. Remember, ICANN staff and Susan wouldn't provide correct results for March office hours, as there was a discrepancy. So, since folks feared that their views weren't properly reflected, I asked those who were inclined to share their views:
https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo-crp/2018-May/001142.html
"If you'd like to post your position/thoughts in an open and transparent manner, please do so in this thread, using the following template"
So, it's an open and transparent posting of people's positions and thoughts, with a view of encouraging a discussion of getting to consensus.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ &c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w 3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=k8B7P_A sQlvBcICb18j8hwLuxvyaddcOuvcDVQShsXI&e=
On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Paul Keating <Paul@law.es> wrote:
Phil,
I respectfully ask that you halt this bickering. Our mandate - post appeal - was to work towards a consensus. In my mind anything that gets us there is a good thing and should not be ignored. I encourage you to elicit any consensus from those on the call AND to include the results of the poll as well.
On 5/10/18, 5:30 PM, "Gnso-igo-ingo-crp on behalf of Corwin, Philip via Gnso-igo-ingo-crp" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org on behalf of gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org> wrote:
For the record, I object to any display of, reference to, or other use of the spreadsheet provided by George during today¹s call on the grounds that it constitutes the results of an illicit poll that was not conducted in conformity with GNSO WG Guidelines.
I have no objection to WG members stating their policy preferences during the call so long as the illicit poll results are not referenced.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 10, 2018, at 10:04 AM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> wrote:
Hi folks,
In preparation for today's call, I've generated an Excel spreadsheet version of the updated Google Spreadsheet:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_sp readsheets_d_e_2PACX-2D1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz315&d=DwIGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6 wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS _7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=ApojLokO4-EuQj ge9CYH7SmwMVy3eNmOd7u5xZdEcoY&e= diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
as well as a PDF of the Summary page. They're attached. If folks have additions/updates/changes, let me know. (can easily update the live Google spreadsheet; PDF and XLS generation/distribution takes longer).
If ICANN staff would add them to the Wiki for today's call, that'd be constructive.
See you in 2 hours.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ &c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w 3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=k8B7P_A sQlvBcICb18j8hwLuxvyaddcOuvcDVQShsXI&e=
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 8:31 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com>
wrote:
Just a quick heads up that I've updated the Google spreadsheet to change Paul T's support for Option #1 to yellow from green (his support depends on what happens with Option #6). I won't regenerate the PDF/XLS at this time (pending any other changes or additions). If there are any other changes desired, please let me know.
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_s preadsheets_d_e_2PACX-2D1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz31&d=DwIGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp 6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5c jS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=4epEfrAYnl0 UKgqOzJBP1ZR6Mn8JqO1lVA-yiSWbvVk&e= 5diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
(should update changes automatically within 5 minutes, if you loaded it previously)
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ &c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w 3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=k8B7P_A sQlvBcICb18j8hwLuxvyaddcOuvcDVQShsXI&e=
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:56 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com>
wrote:
Here we go --- 11 responses (so far) summarized at:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_ spreadsheets_d_e_2PACX-2D1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz3&d=DwIGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJ p6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb 5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=yKltImV5 y4FzfoXaePqqRhDzpjrmpjwV7A7lEJIH5FU&e= 15diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
and attached as PDF and XLS spreadsheets.
Happy to add more or make any changes.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ &c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w 3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=k8B7P_A sQlvBcICb18j8hwLuxvyaddcOuvcDVQShsXI&e=
> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:36 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> >wrote: > Oops, I forgot to attach the PDF and XLS spreadsheet in the
prior
> email (the web link works). But, Paul Tattersfield has just added an > 11th response, so I will re-send very shortly, after regenerating the > PDF and XLS. > > Sincerely, > > George Kirikos > 416-588-0269 > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ &c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w 3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=k8B7P_A sQlvBcICb18j8hwLuxvyaddcOuvcDVQShsXI&e= > >> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:33 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> >>wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> I've summarized the responses to date, for the benefit of tomorrow's >> call. I'd appreciate it if staff would add these to the wiki and >> agenda. >> >> There have been 10 responses so far (more are certainly welcome), >>and >> I've summarized them in a spreadsheet (attached), and also in a PDF >> (just the first page of the PDF; couldn't see an easy way to get all >> the other tabs into the PDF automatically; other tabs are just the >>raw >> posts). >> >> One can also see it via a web browser at: >> >>
>>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.co >>m_spreadsheets_d_e_2PACX-2D1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAu&d=DwIGaQ&c=FmY1u3 >>PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3x >>l7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=IO >>AmWkT7CHK2KmLAbqmkcKAvcJHMxl_WCtr0ifk9LrE&e=
>>z315diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml >> >> The colour coding is my personal interpretation. I'm happy to make >>any >> changes/updates, if folks so desire. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> George Kirikos >> 416-588-0269 >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ &c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w 3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=k8B7P_A sQlvBcICb18j8hwLuxvyaddcOuvcDVQShsXI&e=
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