Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Current Summary (May 9, 2018) of Public Display of Possible Consensus
Phil, I respectfully ask that you halt this bickering. Our mandate - post appeal - was to work towards a consensus. In my mind anything that gets us there is a good thing and should not be ignored. I encourage you to elicit any consensus from those on the call AND to include the results of the poll as well. On 5/10/18, 5:30 PM, "Gnso-igo-ingo-crp on behalf of Corwin, Philip via Gnso-igo-ingo-crp" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org on behalf of gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org> wrote:
For the record, I object to any display of, reference to, or other use of the spreadsheet provided by George during today¹s call on the grounds that it constitutes the results of an illicit poll that was not conducted in conformity with GNSO WG Guidelines.
I have no objection to WG members stating their policy preferences during the call so long as the illicit poll results are not referenced.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 10, 2018, at 10:04 AM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> wrote:
Hi folks,
In preparation for today's call, I've generated an Excel spreadsheet version of the updated Google Spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz315 diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
as well as a PDF of the Summary page. They're attached. If folks have additions/updates/changes, let me know. (can easily update the live Google spreadsheet; PDF and XLS generation/distribution takes longer).
If ICANN staff would add them to the Wiki for today's call, that'd be constructive.
See you in 2 hours.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 8:31 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> wrote: Just a quick heads up that I've updated the Google spreadsheet to change Paul T's support for Option #1 to yellow from green (his support depends on what happens with Option #6). I won't regenerate the PDF/XLS at this time (pending any other changes or additions). If there are any other changes desired, please let me know.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz31 5diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
(should update changes automatically within 5 minutes, if you loaded it previously)
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:56 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> wrote: Here we go --- 11 responses (so far) summarized at:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz3 15diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
and attached as PDF and XLS spreadsheets.
Happy to add more or make any changes.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:36 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> wrote: Oops, I forgot to attach the PDF and XLS spreadsheet in the prior email (the web link works). But, Paul Tattersfield has just added an 11th response, so I will re-send very shortly, after regenerating the PDF and XLS.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:33 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> wrote: Hi folks,
I've summarized the responses to date, for the benefit of tomorrow's call. I'd appreciate it if staff would add these to the wiki and agenda.
There have been 10 responses so far (more are certainly welcome), and I've summarized them in a spreadsheet (attached), and also in a PDF (just the first page of the PDF; couldn't see an easy way to get all the other tabs into the PDF automatically; other tabs are just the raw posts).
One can also see it via a web browser at:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAu z315diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
The colour coding is my personal interpretation. I'm happy to make any changes/updates, if folks so desire.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/
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Asserting my rights as a member and insisting that the Guidelines are followed is not bickering. Sent from my iPhone
On May 10, 2018, at 11:47 AM, Paul Keating <Paul@law.es> wrote:
Phil,
I respectfully ask that you halt this bickering. Our mandate - post appeal - was to work towards a consensus. In my mind anything that gets us there is a good thing and should not be ignored. I encourage you to elicit any consensus from those on the call AND to include the results of the poll as well.
On 5/10/18, 5:30 PM, "Gnso-igo-ingo-crp on behalf of Corwin, Philip via Gnso-igo-ingo-crp" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org on behalf of gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org> wrote:
For the record, I object to any display of, reference to, or other use of the spreadsheet provided by George during today¹s call on the grounds that it constitutes the results of an illicit poll that was not conducted in conformity with GNSO WG Guidelines.
I have no objection to WG members stating their policy preferences during the call so long as the illicit poll results are not referenced.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 10, 2018, at 10:04 AM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> wrote:
Hi folks,
In preparation for today's call, I've generated an Excel spreadsheet version of the updated Google Spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz315 diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
as well as a PDF of the Summary page. They're attached. If folks have additions/updates/changes, let me know. (can easily update the live Google spreadsheet; PDF and XLS generation/distribution takes longer).
If ICANN staff would add them to the Wiki for today's call, that'd be constructive.
See you in 2 hours.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 8:31 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> wrote: Just a quick heads up that I've updated the Google spreadsheet to change Paul T's support for Option #1 to yellow from green (his support depends on what happens with Option #6). I won't regenerate the PDF/XLS at this time (pending any other changes or additions). If there are any other changes desired, please let me know.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz31 5diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
(should update changes automatically within 5 minutes, if you loaded it previously)
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:56 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> wrote: Here we go --- 11 responses (so far) summarized at:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz3 15diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
and attached as PDF and XLS spreadsheets.
Happy to add more or make any changes.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:36 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> wrote: Oops, I forgot to attach the PDF and XLS spreadsheet in the prior email (the web link works). But, Paul Tattersfield has just added an 11th response, so I will re-send very shortly, after regenerating the PDF and XLS.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/
> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:33 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> > wrote: > Hi folks, > > I've summarized the responses to date, for the benefit of tomorrow's > call. I'd appreciate it if staff would add these to the wiki and > agenda. > > There have been 10 responses so far (more are certainly welcome), > and > I've summarized them in a spreadsheet (attached), and also in a PDF > (just the first page of the PDF; couldn't see an easy way to get all > the other tabs into the PDF automatically; other tabs are just the > raw > posts). > > One can also see it via a web browser at: > > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAu > z315diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml > > The colour coding is my personal interpretation. I'm happy to make > any > changes/updates, if folks so desire. > > Sincerely, > > George Kirikos > 416-588-0269 > http://www.leap.com/
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Phil: I'm glad you insist that the guidelines be followed. That's exactly what I've wanted from day 1. What do the guidelines say about anonymous polls, like the ones from October and March? I too will be insisting that the guidelines be followed -- by you and Petter (as co-chairs), and by Susan/Heather. Thank you. Sincerely, George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/ On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 11:50 AM, Corwin, Philip <pcorwin@verisign.com> wrote:
Asserting my rights as a member and insisting that the Guidelines are followed is not bickering.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 10, 2018, at 11:47 AM, Paul Keating <Paul@law.es> wrote:
Phil,
I respectfully ask that you halt this bickering. Our mandate - post appeal - was to work towards a consensus. In my mind anything that gets us there is a good thing and should not be ignored. I encourage you to elicit any consensus from those on the call AND to include the results of the poll as well.
On 5/10/18, 5:30 PM, "Gnso-igo-ingo-crp on behalf of Corwin, Philip via Gnso-igo-ingo-crp" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org on behalf of gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org> wrote:
For the record, I object to any display of, reference to, or other use of the spreadsheet provided by George during today¹s call on the grounds that it constitutes the results of an illicit poll that was not conducted in conformity with GNSO WG Guidelines.
I have no objection to WG members stating their policy preferences during the call so long as the illicit poll results are not referenced.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 10, 2018, at 10:04 AM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> wrote:
Hi folks,
In preparation for today's call, I've generated an Excel spreadsheet version of the updated Google Spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz315 diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
as well as a PDF of the Summary page. They're attached. If folks have additions/updates/changes, let me know. (can easily update the live Google spreadsheet; PDF and XLS generation/distribution takes longer).
If ICANN staff would add them to the Wiki for today's call, that'd be constructive.
See you in 2 hours.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 8:31 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> wrote: Just a quick heads up that I've updated the Google spreadsheet to change Paul T's support for Option #1 to yellow from green (his support depends on what happens with Option #6). I won't regenerate the PDF/XLS at this time (pending any other changes or additions). If there are any other changes desired, please let me know.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz31 5diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
(should update changes automatically within 5 minutes, if you loaded it previously)
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:56 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> wrote: Here we go --- 11 responses (so far) summarized at:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz3 15diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
and attached as PDF and XLS spreadsheets.
Happy to add more or make any changes.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/
> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:36 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> > wrote: > Oops, I forgot to attach the PDF and XLS spreadsheet in the prior > email (the web link works). But, Paul Tattersfield has just added an > 11th response, so I will re-send very shortly, after regenerating the > PDF and XLS. > > Sincerely, > > George Kirikos > 416-588-0269 > http://www.leap.com/ > >> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:33 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> >> wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> I've summarized the responses to date, for the benefit of tomorrow's >> call. I'd appreciate it if staff would add these to the wiki and >> agenda. >> >> There have been 10 responses so far (more are certainly welcome), >> and >> I've summarized them in a spreadsheet (attached), and also in a PDF >> (just the first page of the PDF; couldn't see an easy way to get all >> the other tabs into the PDF automatically; other tabs are just the >> raw >> posts). >> >> One can also see it via a web browser at: >> >> >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAu >> z315diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml >> >> The colour coding is my personal interpretation. I'm happy to make >> any >> changes/updates, if folks so desire. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> George Kirikos >> 416-588-0269 >> http://www.leap.com/
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Just a reminder, that in the “Co-Chairs’ Summary, Statement, and Proposed Next Steps” (January 31, 2018),based on the second call between Mr Kirikos and us co-chairs, on Mr Kirikos’ appeal under Section 3.7, Phil and I suggested some steps to move forward: a) Determine whether WG members wish to hold another call to attempt to further clarify and consolidate the existing six options for resolution of Recommendation Three. b) Immediately after such call (or just immediately, if it is not supported) prepare and distribute a public and transparent poll of WG members to support their primary choice among Recommendation Three options; and their support/opposition and additional comments for the remaining options, as well as the other three Recommendations, with poll results to be tabulated and distributed as soon as feasible during February. At that time the co-chairs will “make an evaluation of the [consensus level]designation and publish it for the group to review” to initiate the consensus call process through the method recommended in Section 3.6 of the Guidelines [<https://gnso.icann.org/en/council/annex-1-gnso-wg-guidelines-01sep16-en.pdf>]. c) Resume WG calls to discuss the poll results, co-chairs’ estimated designations, and move toward final consensus positions while preparing for the facilitated session. d) Hold a facilitated WG session at ICANN 61. That conclusion and suggestion to move forward was howeverstrongly opposed by Mr Kirikos, who stated that: “A poll (non-anonymous, and agreed to by all before it got sent out,unlike the last one) was supposed to be a "last resort", *IF* thefacilitated process to reach consensus failed. In other words,if itwas ever to take place, it would only be *after* the facilitatedprocess…I don't agree with the newly proposed process at all, as itdoesn't reflect what was agreed on January 18, 2018. If the co-chairsare reneging on that agreement, I intend to invoke Section 3.7 again.” (February 1, 2018). / Petter -- Petter Rindforth, LL M Fenix Legal KB Stureplan 4c, 4tr 114 35 Stockholm Sweden Fax: +46(0)8-4631010 Direct phone: +46(0)702-369360 E-mail: petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu www.fenixlegal.eu NOTICE This e-mail message is intended solely for the individual or individuals to whom it is addressed. It may contain confidential attorney-client privileged information and attorney work product. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are requested not to read, copy or distribute it or any of the information it contains. Please delete it immediately and notify us by return e-mail. Fenix Legal KB, Sweden, www.fenixlegal.eu Thank you 10 maj 2018 17:53:28 +02:00, skrev George Kirikos <icann@leap.com>:
Phil: I'm glad you insist that the guidelines be followed. That's exactly what I've wanted from day 1. What do the guidelines say about anonymous polls, like the ones from October and March?
I too will be insisting that the guidelines be followed -- by you and Petter (as co-chairs), and by Susan/Heather.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 <http://www.leap.com/>
On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 11:50 AM, Corwin, Philip <<pcorwin@verisign.com>> wrote:
Asserting my rights as a member and insisting that the Guidelines are followed is not bickering.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 10, 2018, at 11:47 AM, Paul Keating <Paul@law.es> wrote:
Phil,
I respectfully ask that you halt this bickering. Our mandate - post appeal - was to work towards a consensus. In my mind anything that gets us there is a good thing and should not be ignored. I encourage you to elicit any consensus from those on the call AND to include the results of the poll as well.
On 5/10/18, 5:30 PM, "Gnso-igo-ingo-crp on behalf of Corwin, Philip via Gnso-igo-ingo-crp" <<gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of <gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org>> wrote:
For the record, I object to any display of, reference to, or other use of the spreadsheet provided by George during today¹s call on the grounds that it constitutes the results of an illicit poll that was not conducted in conformity with GNSO WG Guidelines.
I have no objection to WG members stating their policy preferences during the call so long as the illicit poll results are not referenced.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 10, 2018, at 10:04 AM, George Kirikos <<icann@leap.com>> wrote:
Hi folks,
In preparation for today's call, I've generated an Excel spreadsheet version of the updated Google Spreadsheet:
<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz315> diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
as well as a PDF of the Summary page. They're attached. If folks have additions/updates/changes, let me know. (can easily update the live Google spreadsheet; PDF and XLS generation/distribution takes longer).
If ICANN staff would add them to the Wiki for today's call, that'd be constructive.
See you in 2 hours.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 <http://www.leap.com/>
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 8:31 PM, George Kirikos <<icann@leap.com>> wrote: Just a quick heads up that I've updated the Google spreadsheet to change Paul T's support for Option #1 to yellow from green (his support depends on what happens with Option #6). I won't regenerate the PDF/XLS at this time (pending any other changes or additions). If there are any other changes desired, please let me know.
<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz31> 5diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
(should update changes automatically within 5 minutes, if you loaded it previously)
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 <http://www.leap.com/>
> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:56 PM, George Kirikos <<icann@leap.com>> wrote: > Here we go --- 11 responses (so far) summarized at: > > > <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz3> > 15diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml > > and attached as PDF and XLS spreadsheets. > > Happy to add more or make any changes. > > Sincerely, > > George Kirikos > 416-588-0269 > <http://www.leap.com/> > > > > > > > On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:36 PM, George Kirikos <<icann@leap.com>> > > wrote: > > Oops, I forgot to attach the PDF and XLS spreadsheet in the prior > > email (the web link works). But, Paul Tattersfield has just added an > > 11th response, so I will re-send very shortly, after regenerating the > > PDF and XLS. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > George Kirikos > > 416-588-0269 > > <http://www.leap.com/> > > > > > > > On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:33 PM, George Kirikos <<icann@leap.com>> > > > wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > I've summarized the responses to date, for the benefit of tomorrow's > > > call. I'd appreciate it if staff would add these to the wiki and > > > agenda. > > > > > > There have been 10 responses so far (more are certainly welcome), > > > and > > > I've summarized them in a spreadsheet (attached), and also in a PDF > > > (just the first page of the PDF; couldn't see an easy way to get all > > > the other tabs into the PDF automatically; other tabs are just the > > > raw > > > posts). > > > > > > One can also see it via a web browser at: > > > > > > > > > <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAu> > > > z315diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml > > > > > > The colour coding is my personal interpretation. I'm happy to make > > > any > > > changes/updates, if folks so desire. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > George Kirikos > > > 416-588-0269 > > > <http://www.leap.com/> > > >
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On May 10, 2018, at 09:06, Petter Rindforth <petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu> wrote:
Just a reminder, that in the “Co-Chairs’ Summary, Statement, and Proposed Next Steps” (January 31, 2018), based on the second call between Mr Kirikos and us co-chairs, on Mr Kirikos’ appeal under Section 3.7, Phil and I suggested some steps to move forward:
a) Determine whether WG members wish to hold another call to attempt to further clarify and consolidate the existing six options for resolution of Recommendation Three.
b) Immediately after such call (or just immediately, if it is not supported) prepare and distribute a public and transparent poll of WG members to support their primary choice among Recommendation Three options; and their support/opposition and additional comments for the remaining options, as well as the other three Recommendations, with poll results to be tabulated and distributed as soon as feasible during February. At that time the co-chairs will “make an evaluation of the [consensus level]designation and publish it for the group to review” to initiate the consensus call process through the method recommended in Section 3.6 of the Guidelines [https://gnso.icann.org/en/council/annex-1-gnso-wg-guidelines-01sep16-en.pdf].
c) Resume WG calls to discuss the poll results, co-chairs’ estimated designations, and move toward final consensus positions while preparing for the facilitated session.
d) Hold a facilitated WG session at ICANN 61.
That conclusion and suggestion to move forward was however strongly opposed by Mr Kirikos, who stated that:
“A poll (non-anonymous, and agreed to by all before it got sent out, unlike the last one) was supposed to be a "last resort", *IF* the facilitated process to reach consensus failed. In other words, if it was ever to take place, it would only be *after* the facilitated process…I don't agree with the newly proposed process at all, as it doesn't reflect what was agreed on January 18, 2018. If the co-chairs are reneging on that agreement, I intend to invoke Section 3.7 again.” (February 1, 2018).
/ Petter
-- Petter Rindforth, LL M
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10 maj 2018 17:53:28 +02:00, skrev George Kirikos <icann@leap.com>:
Phil: I'm glad you insist that the guidelines be followed. That's exactly what I've wanted from day 1. What do the guidelines say about anonymous polls, like the ones from October and March?
I too will be insisting that the guidelines be followed -- by you and Petter (as co-chairs), and by Susan/Heather.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/
On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 11:50 AM, Corwin, Philip <pcorwin@verisign.com> wrote: Asserting my rights as a member and insisting that the Guidelines are followed is not bickering.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 10, 2018, at 11:47 AM, Paul Keating <Paul@law.es> wrote:
Phil,
I respectfully ask that you halt this bickering. Our mandate - post appeal - was to work towards a consensus. In my mind anything that gets us there is a good thing and should not be ignored. I encourage you to elicit any consensus from those on the call AND to include the results of the poll as well.
On 5/10/18, 5:30 PM, "Gnso-igo-ingo-crp on behalf of Corwin, Philip via Gnso-igo-ingo-crp" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org on behalf of gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org> wrote:
For the record, I object to any display of, reference to, or other use of the spreadsheet provided by George during today¹s call on the grounds that it constitutes the results of an illicit poll that was not conducted in conformity with GNSO WG Guidelines.
I have no objection to WG members stating their policy preferences during the call so long as the illicit poll results are not referenced.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 10, 2018, at 10:04 AM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> wrote:
Hi folks,
In preparation for today's call, I've generated an Excel spreadsheet version of the updated Google Spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz315 diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
as well as a PDF of the Summary page. They're attached. If folks have additions/updates/changes, let me know. (can easily update the live Google spreadsheet; PDF and XLS generation/distribution takes longer).
If ICANN staff would add them to the Wiki for today's call, that'd be constructive.
See you in 2 hours.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 8:31 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> wrote: Just a quick heads up that I've updated the Google spreadsheet to change Paul T's support for Option #1 to yellow from green (his support depends on what happens with Option #6). I won't regenerate the PDF/XLS at this time (pending any other changes or additions). If there are any other changes desired, please let me know.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz31 5diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
(should update changes automatically within 5 minutes, if you loaded it previously)
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:56 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> wrote: Here we go --- 11 responses (so far) summarized at:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz3 15diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
and attached as PDF and XLS spreadsheets.
Happy to add more or make any changes.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:36 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> wrote: Oops, I forgot to attach the PDF and XLS spreadsheet in the prior email (the web link works). But, Paul Tattersfield has just added an 11th response, so I will re-send very shortly, after regenerating the PDF and XLS.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:33 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> wrote: Hi folks,
I've summarized the responses to date, for the benefit of tomorrow's call. I'd appreciate it if staff would add these to the wiki and agenda.
There have been 10 responses so far (more are certainly welcome), and I've summarized them in a spreadsheet (attached), and also in a PDF (just the first page of the PDF; couldn't see an easy way to get all the other tabs into the PDF automatically; other tabs are just the raw posts).
One can also see it via a web browser at:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAu z315diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
The colour coding is my personal interpretation. I'm happy to make any changes/updates, if folks so desire.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/
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Again, it was never a poll. Remember, ICANN staff and Susan wouldn't provide correct results for March office hours, as there was a discrepancy. So, since folks feared that their views weren't properly reflected, I asked those who were inclined to share their views: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo-crp/2018-May/001142.html "If you'd like to post your position/thoughts in an open and transparent manner, please do so in this thread, using the following template" So, it's an open and transparent posting of people's positions and thoughts, with a view of encouraging a discussion of getting to consensus. Sincerely, George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/ On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Paul Keating <Paul@law.es> wrote:
Phil,
I respectfully ask that you halt this bickering. Our mandate - post appeal - was to work towards a consensus. In my mind anything that gets us there is a good thing and should not be ignored. I encourage you to elicit any consensus from those on the call AND to include the results of the poll as well.
On 5/10/18, 5:30 PM, "Gnso-igo-ingo-crp on behalf of Corwin, Philip via Gnso-igo-ingo-crp" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org on behalf of gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org> wrote:
For the record, I object to any display of, reference to, or other use of the spreadsheet provided by George during today¹s call on the grounds that it constitutes the results of an illicit poll that was not conducted in conformity with GNSO WG Guidelines.
I have no objection to WG members stating their policy preferences during the call so long as the illicit poll results are not referenced.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 10, 2018, at 10:04 AM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> wrote:
Hi folks,
In preparation for today's call, I've generated an Excel spreadsheet version of the updated Google Spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz315 diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
as well as a PDF of the Summary page. They're attached. If folks have additions/updates/changes, let me know. (can easily update the live Google spreadsheet; PDF and XLS generation/distribution takes longer).
If ICANN staff would add them to the Wiki for today's call, that'd be constructive.
See you in 2 hours.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 8:31 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> wrote: Just a quick heads up that I've updated the Google spreadsheet to change Paul T's support for Option #1 to yellow from green (his support depends on what happens with Option #6). I won't regenerate the PDF/XLS at this time (pending any other changes or additions). If there are any other changes desired, please let me know.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz31 5diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
(should update changes automatically within 5 minutes, if you loaded it previously)
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:56 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> wrote: Here we go --- 11 responses (so far) summarized at:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz3 15diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
and attached as PDF and XLS spreadsheets.
Happy to add more or make any changes.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:36 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> wrote: Oops, I forgot to attach the PDF and XLS spreadsheet in the prior email (the web link works). But, Paul Tattersfield has just added an 11th response, so I will re-send very shortly, after regenerating the PDF and XLS.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/
> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:33 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> >wrote: > Hi folks, > > I've summarized the responses to date, for the benefit of tomorrow's > call. I'd appreciate it if staff would add these to the wiki and > agenda. > > There have been 10 responses so far (more are certainly welcome), >and > I've summarized them in a spreadsheet (attached), and also in a PDF > (just the first page of the PDF; couldn't see an easy way to get all > the other tabs into the PDF automatically; other tabs are just the >raw > posts). > > One can also see it via a web browser at: > > >https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAu >z315diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml > > The colour coding is my personal interpretation. I'm happy to make >any > changes/updates, if folks so desire. > > Sincerely, > > George Kirikos > 416-588-0269 > http://www.leap.com/
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Dear all, As all Working Group members have received copies of the documents prepared by George, in view of the sensitivities around whether and what form of polling is acceptable to the Working Group as a whole and the fact that we have not conducted a formal consensus call of the kind typical for a GNSO PDP, Susan (when facilitating the call coming up) will include a discussion on the consensus process to be followed. We thank Working Group members who have provided their feedback through the various opportunities and mechanisms provided to date. Cheers Mary & Steve On 5/10/18, 11:51, "Gnso-igo-ingo-crp on behalf of George Kirikos" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org on behalf of icann@leap.com> wrote: Again, it was never a poll. Remember, ICANN staff and Susan wouldn't provide correct results for March office hours, as there was a discrepancy. So, since folks feared that their views weren't properly reflected, I asked those who were inclined to share their views: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo-crp/2018-May/001142.html "If you'd like to post your position/thoughts in an open and transparent manner, please do so in this thread, using the following template" So, it's an open and transparent posting of people's positions and thoughts, with a view of encouraging a discussion of getting to consensus. Sincerely, George Kirikos 416-588-0269 https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ&c... On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Paul Keating <Paul@law.es> wrote: > Phil, > > I respectfully ask that you halt this bickering. Our mandate - post > appeal - was to work towards a consensus. In my mind anything that gets > us there is a good thing and should not be ignored. I encourage you to > elicit any consensus from those on the call AND to include the results of > the poll as well. > > > > On 5/10/18, 5:30 PM, "Gnso-igo-ingo-crp on behalf of Corwin, Philip via > Gnso-igo-ingo-crp" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org on behalf of > gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org> wrote: > >>For the record, I object to any display of, reference to, or other use of >>the spreadsheet provided by George during today¹s call on the grounds >>that it constitutes the results of an illicit poll that was not conducted >>in conformity with GNSO WG Guidelines. >> >>I have no objection to WG members stating their policy preferences during >>the call so long as the illicit poll results are not referenced. >> >>Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 10, 2018, at 10:04 AM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> In preparation for today's call, I've generated an Excel spreadsheet >>> version of the updated Google Spreadsheet: >>> >>> >>>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreads... >>>diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml >>> >>> as well as a PDF of the Summary page. They're attached. If folks have >>> additions/updates/changes, let me know. (can easily update the live >>> Google spreadsheet; PDF and XLS generation/distribution takes longer). >>> >>> If ICANN staff would add them to the Wiki for today's call, that'd be >>> constructive. >>> >>> See you in 2 hours. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> George Kirikos >>> 416-588-0269 >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ&c... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 8:31 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> wrote: >>>> Just a quick heads up that I've updated the Google spreadsheet to >>>> change Paul T's support for Option #1 to yellow from green (his >>>> support depends on what happens with Option #6). I won't regenerate >>>> the PDF/XLS at this time (pending any other changes or additions). If >>>> there are any other changes desired, please let me know. >>>> >>>> >>>>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreads... >>>>5diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml >>>> >>>> (should update changes automatically within 5 minutes, if you loaded >>>> it previously) >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> >>>> George Kirikos >>>> 416-588-0269 >>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ&c... >>>> >>>>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:56 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> wrote: >>>>> Here we go --- 11 responses (so far) summarized at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreads... >>>>>15diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml >>>>> >>>>> and attached as PDF and XLS spreadsheets. >>>>> >>>>> Happy to add more or make any changes. >>>>> >>>>> Sincerely, >>>>> >>>>> George Kirikos >>>>> 416-588-0269 >>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ&c... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:36 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> >>>>>>wrote: >>>>>> Oops, I forgot to attach the PDF and XLS spreadsheet in the prior >>>>>> email (the web link works). But, Paul Tattersfield has just added an >>>>>> 11th response, so I will re-send very shortly, after regenerating the >>>>>> PDF and XLS. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>> >>>>>> George Kirikos >>>>>> 416-588-0269 >>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ&c... >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:33 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> >>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've summarized the responses to date, for the benefit of tomorrow's >>>>>>> call. I'd appreciate it if staff would add these to the wiki and >>>>>>> agenda. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There have been 10 responses so far (more are certainly welcome), >>>>>>>and >>>>>>> I've summarized them in a spreadsheet (attached), and also in a PDF >>>>>>> (just the first page of the PDF; couldn't see an easy way to get all >>>>>>> the other tabs into the PDF automatically; other tabs are just the >>>>>>>raw >>>>>>> posts). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One can also see it via a web browser at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreads... >>>>>>>z315diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The colour coding is my personal interpretation. I'm happy to make >>>>>>>any >>>>>>> changes/updates, if folks so desire. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> George Kirikos >>>>>>> 416-588-0269 >>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ&c... >>> >>> >>> <PublicDisplayOfPossibleConsensus-20180510.xlsx> >>> <PublicDisplayOfPossibleConsensus-Summary-20180510.pdf> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gnso-igo-ingo-crp mailing list >>> Gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org >>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-igo-ingo-crp >>_______________________________________________ >>Gnso-igo-ingo-crp mailing list >>Gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org >>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-igo-ingo-crp > > _______________________________________________ Gnso-igo-ingo-crp mailing list Gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-igo-ingo-crp
MUCH BETTER way of addressing this. Thank you Mary. On 5/10/18, 5:56 PM, "Mary Wong" <mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Dear all,
As all Working Group members have received copies of the documents prepared by George, in view of the sensitivities around whether and what form of polling is acceptable to the Working Group as a whole and the fact that we have not conducted a formal consensus call of the kind typical for a GNSO PDP, Susan (when facilitating the call coming up) will include a discussion on the consensus process to be followed.
We thank Working Group members who have provided their feedback through the various opportunities and mechanisms provided to date.
Cheers Mary & Steve
On 5/10/18, 11:51, "Gnso-igo-ingo-crp on behalf of George Kirikos" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org on behalf of icann@leap.com> wrote:
Again, it was never a poll. Remember, ICANN staff and Susan wouldn't provide correct results for March office hours, as there was a discrepancy. So, since folks feared that their views weren't properly reflected, I asked those who were inclined to share their views:
https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo-crp/2018-May/001142.html
"If you'd like to post your position/thoughts in an open and transparent manner, please do so in this thread, using the following template"
So, it's an open and transparent posting of people's positions and thoughts, with a view of encouraging a discussion of getting to consensus.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ &c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w 3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=k8B7P_A sQlvBcICb18j8hwLuxvyaddcOuvcDVQShsXI&e=
On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Paul Keating <Paul@law.es> wrote:
Phil,
I respectfully ask that you halt this bickering. Our mandate - post appeal - was to work towards a consensus. In my mind anything that gets us there is a good thing and should not be ignored. I encourage you to elicit any consensus from those on the call AND to include the results of the poll as well.
On 5/10/18, 5:30 PM, "Gnso-igo-ingo-crp on behalf of Corwin, Philip via Gnso-igo-ingo-crp" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org on behalf of gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org> wrote:
For the record, I object to any display of, reference to, or other use of the spreadsheet provided by George during today¹s call on the grounds that it constitutes the results of an illicit poll that was not conducted in conformity with GNSO WG Guidelines.
I have no objection to WG members stating their policy preferences during the call so long as the illicit poll results are not referenced.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 10, 2018, at 10:04 AM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> wrote:
Hi folks,
In preparation for today's call, I've generated an Excel spreadsheet version of the updated Google Spreadsheet:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_sp readsheets_d_e_2PACX-2D1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz315&d=DwIGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6 wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS _7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=ApojLokO4-EuQj ge9CYH7SmwMVy3eNmOd7u5xZdEcoY&e= diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
as well as a PDF of the Summary page. They're attached. If folks have additions/updates/changes, let me know. (can easily update the live Google spreadsheet; PDF and XLS generation/distribution takes longer).
If ICANN staff would add them to the Wiki for today's call, that'd be constructive.
See you in 2 hours.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ &c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w 3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=k8B7P_A sQlvBcICb18j8hwLuxvyaddcOuvcDVQShsXI&e=
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 8:31 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com>
wrote:
Just a quick heads up that I've updated the Google spreadsheet to change Paul T's support for Option #1 to yellow from green (his support depends on what happens with Option #6). I won't regenerate the PDF/XLS at this time (pending any other changes or additions). If there are any other changes desired, please let me know.
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_s preadsheets_d_e_2PACX-2D1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz31&d=DwIGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp 6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5c jS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=4epEfrAYnl0 UKgqOzJBP1ZR6Mn8JqO1lVA-yiSWbvVk&e= 5diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
(should update changes automatically within 5 minutes, if you loaded it previously)
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ &c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w 3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=k8B7P_A sQlvBcICb18j8hwLuxvyaddcOuvcDVQShsXI&e=
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:56 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com>
wrote:
Here we go --- 11 responses (so far) summarized at:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_ spreadsheets_d_e_2PACX-2D1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz3&d=DwIGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJ p6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb 5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=yKltImV5 y4FzfoXaePqqRhDzpjrmpjwV7A7lEJIH5FU&e= 15diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
and attached as PDF and XLS spreadsheets.
Happy to add more or make any changes.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ &c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w 3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=k8B7P_A sQlvBcICb18j8hwLuxvyaddcOuvcDVQShsXI&e=
> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:36 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> >wrote: > Oops, I forgot to attach the PDF and XLS spreadsheet in the
prior
> email (the web link works). But, Paul Tattersfield has just added an > 11th response, so I will re-send very shortly, after regenerating the > PDF and XLS. > > Sincerely, > > George Kirikos > 416-588-0269 > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ &c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w 3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=k8B7P_A sQlvBcICb18j8hwLuxvyaddcOuvcDVQShsXI&e= > >> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:33 PM, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> >>wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> I've summarized the responses to date, for the benefit of tomorrow's >> call. I'd appreciate it if staff would add these to the wiki and >> agenda. >> >> There have been 10 responses so far (more are certainly welcome), >>and >> I've summarized them in a spreadsheet (attached), and also in a PDF >> (just the first page of the PDF; couldn't see an easy way to get all >> the other tabs into the PDF automatically; other tabs are just the >>raw >> posts). >> >> One can also see it via a web browser at: >> >>
>>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.co >>m_spreadsheets_d_e_2PACX-2D1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAu&d=DwIGaQ&c=FmY1u3 >>PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3x >>l7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=IO >>AmWkT7CHK2KmLAbqmkcKAvcJHMxl_WCtr0ifk9LrE&e=
>>z315diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml >> >> The colour coding is my personal interpretation. I'm happy to make >>any >> changes/updates, if folks so desire. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> George Kirikos >> 416-588-0269 >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ &c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w 3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=k8B7P_A sQlvBcICb18j8hwLuxvyaddcOuvcDVQShsXI&e=
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Reg Levy