Recordings, attendance & AC Chat | Reconvened IGO-INGO Protections in all gTLDs PDP Working Group on Red Cross Names Call to Discuss Recommendations| Wednesday, 12 September 2018
Dear all, Please find attached the attendance and AC chat and below the mp3 and Adobe Connect recording for the reconvened IGO-INGO Protections in all gTLDs PDP Working Group on Red Cross Names call to discuss recommendations held on Wednesday, 12 September 2018 at 13:00 UTC. Mp3: https://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-red-cross-recs-12sep18-en.mp3 <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__audio.icann.org_gnso_gn...> AC recording: https://participate.icann.org/p6y990qikgd/<https://participate.icann.org/p6y990qikgd/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=81a39a1ebb180a13c3f6048cc3437f769de562a45581fc29c7487256fee84be2> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar[gnso.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_group-2Dactivities_calendar&d=DwMFAw&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=E2vmSmAIFiMHbXvtPGq4TC82vJ9qNqqrkv_r2-VAgdI&s=wfRnhR5wGcI8YaPTIhiec3CkcYitSb0s-A5paUtmcQQ&e=> Mailing list archive: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo/ Agenda Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/aQCrBQ ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Kind Regards, Andrea Glandon
Was this a WG call? I was unaware of it. Chuck From: Gnso-igo-ingo <gnso-igo-ingo-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Andrea Glandon Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 3:11 PM To: gnso-igo-ingo@icann.org; Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma@gmail.com>; Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca>; Tatiana Tropina <tatiana.tropina@gmail.com>; Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com>; mpsilvavalent@gmail.com; rafik.dammak@gmail.com; farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii@gmail.com>; Heather Forrest <haforrestesq@gmail.com>; Dennis Chang <dennis.chang@icann.org>; Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi@icann.org> Cc: gnso-secs@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-igo-ingo] Recordings, attendance & AC Chat | Reconvened IGO-INGO Protections in all gTLDs PDP Working Group on Red Cross Names Call to Discuss Recommendations| Wednesday, 12 September 2018 Dear all, Please find attached the attendance and AC chat and below the mp3 and Adobe Connect recording for the reconvened IGO-INGO Protections in all gTLDs PDP Working Group on Red Cross Names call to discuss recommendations held on Wednesday, 12 September 2018 at 13:00 UTC. Mp3: <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__audio.icann.org_gnso_gn...> https://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-red-cross-recs-12sep18-en.mp3 AC recording: <https://participate.icann.org/p6y990qikgd/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=81a39a1ebb180a13c...> https://participate.icann.org/p6y990qikgd/ The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_group-...> http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar[gnso.icann.org] Mailing list archive: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo/> http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo/ Agenda Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/aQCrBQ ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Kind Regards, Andrea Glandon
Dear Chuck, I'll seize the benefit of timezone here, as I know it's late hours for Thomas now, but hopefully not step on Thomas's toes as I do so. The meeting was set up by Thomas and staff to answer questions from the NCSG. I attended as Council liaison to the PDP. It was not intended to be a full meeting of the PDP WG, but we have circulated the recording to ensure all have access to the discussions. Best wishes, Heather On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 9:34 AM Chuck <consult@cgomes.com> wrote:
Was this a WG call? I was unaware of it.
Chuck
*From:* Gnso-igo-ingo <gnso-igo-ingo-bounces@icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Andrea Glandon *Sent:* Wednesday, September 12, 2018 3:11 PM *To:* gnso-igo-ingo@icann.org; Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma@gmail.com>; Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca>; Tatiana Tropina < tatiana.tropina@gmail.com>; Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com>; mpsilvavalent@gmail.com; rafik.dammak@gmail.com; farzaneh badii < farzaneh.badii@gmail.com>; Heather Forrest <haforrestesq@gmail.com>; Dennis Chang <dennis.chang@icann.org>; Maryam Bakoshi < maryam.bakoshi@icann.org> *Cc:* gnso-secs@icann.org *Subject:* [Gnso-igo-ingo] Recordings, attendance & AC Chat | Reconvened IGO-INGO Protections in all gTLDs PDP Working Group on Red Cross Names Call to Discuss Recommendations| Wednesday, 12 September 2018
Dear all,
Please find attached the attendance and AC chat and below the mp3 and Adobe Connect recording for the reconvened IGO-INGO Protections in all gTLDs PDP Working Group on Red Cross Names call to discuss recommendations held on *Wednesday, 12 September 2018 at 13:00 UTC.*
*Mp3: *https://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-red-cross-recs-12sep18-en.mp3 <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__audio.icann.org_gnso_gn...>
*AC recording*: *https://participate.icann.org/p6y990qikgd/* <https://participate.icann.org/p6y990qikgd/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=81a39a1ebb180a13c...>
The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar[gnso.icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_group-...>
Mailing list archive: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo/
Agenda Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/aQCrBQ
** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **
Kind Regards,
Andrea Glandon
Thanks Heather. Just to let you know, several weeks ago I had a private email exchange with Farzaneh in which I tried to understand the NCSG’s position. When I get a chance I will listen to the recording to hear how the meeting went. Chuck From: Heather Forrest <haforrestesq@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:32 PM To: Chuck <consult@cgomes.com> Cc: Andrea Glandon <andrea.glandon@icann.org>; gnso-igo-ingo@icann.org; Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma@gmail.com>; Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca>; Tatiana Tropina <tatiana.tropina@gmail.com>; Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com>; Martin Pablo Silva Valent <mpsilvavalent@gmail.com>; Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com>; farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii@gmail.com>; dennis.chang@icann.org; Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi@icann.org>; gnso-SECS <gnso-secs@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo] Recordings, attendance & AC Chat | Reconvened IGO-INGO Protections in all gTLDs PDP Working Group on Red Cross Names Call to Discuss Recommendations| Wednesday, 12 September 2018 Dear Chuck, I'll seize the benefit of timezone here, as I know it's late hours for Thomas now, but hopefully not step on Thomas's toes as I do so. The meeting was set up by Thomas and staff to answer questions from the NCSG. I attended as Council liaison to the PDP. It was not intended to be a full meeting of the PDP WG, but we have circulated the recording to ensure all have access to the discussions. Best wishes, Heather On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 9:34 AM Chuck <consult@cgomes.com <mailto:consult@cgomes.com> > wrote: Was this a WG call? I was unaware of it. Chuck From: Gnso-igo-ingo <gnso-igo-ingo-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-bounces@icann.org> > On Behalf Of Andrea Glandon Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 3:11 PM To: gnso-igo-ingo@icann.org <mailto:gnso-igo-ingo@icann.org> ; Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma@gmail.com <mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com> >; Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca <mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> >; Tatiana Tropina <tatiana.tropina@gmail.com <mailto:tatiana.tropina@gmail.com> >; Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com <mailto:icann@ferdeline.com> >; mpsilvavalent@gmail.com <mailto:mpsilvavalent@gmail.com> ; rafik.dammak@gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com> ; farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii@gmail.com <mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com> >; Heather Forrest <haforrestesq@gmail.com <mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com> >; Dennis Chang <dennis.chang@icann.org <mailto:dennis.chang@icann.org> >; Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi@icann.org <mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org> > Cc: gnso-secs@icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-igo-ingo] Recordings, attendance & AC Chat | Reconvened IGO-INGO Protections in all gTLDs PDP Working Group on Red Cross Names Call to Discuss Recommendations| Wednesday, 12 September 2018 Dear all, Please find attached the attendance and AC chat and below the mp3 and Adobe Connect recording for the reconvened IGO-INGO Protections in all gTLDs PDP Working Group on Red Cross Names call to discuss recommendations held on Wednesday, 12 September 2018 at 13:00 UTC. Mp3: <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__audio.icann.org_gnso_gn...> https://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-red-cross-recs-12sep18-en.mp3 AC recording: <https://participate.icann.org/p6y990qikgd/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=81a39a1ebb180a13c...> https://participate.icann.org/p6y990qikgd/ The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_group-...> http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar[gnso.icann.org] Mailing list archive: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo/> http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo/ Agenda Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/aQCrBQ ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Kind Regards, Andrea Glandon
I just listened to the recording. Without minimizing any of the other concerns discussed, I thought that Farzaneh’s concern regarding the process for adding names without a PDP was an important one. I think Mary and Barry answered it at a high level, noting that there would have to be a lengthy international process before that could happen, but I wonder if it might be helpful to outline in brief bullet form what steps the international community and the GNSO would have to go through before a name could be added to the finite list. I understand that it is all in the report, but it might be easier for everyone to grasp it if those steps were listed in a concise manner. On the same topic, I would like to call attention to the WG recommended procedures for updating the finite list; in creating those procedures, the WG was fully cognizant of the time and effort required for a PDP to consider changes. The NCSG has made it abundantly clear that they have limited resources that make it difficult to participate in all PDPs, so I would think that it would be beneficial to avoid PDPs when possible without compromising the bottom-up policy development process and I believe the recommendations sufficiently constrain the update process to accomplish that. Finally, I confess to be the one who suggested maybe the GNSO should consider not allowing SGs to defer motions related to PDPs in which they did not actively participate. First note that I did NOT suggest that such SGs should not be able to participate in the public comment process. Second, let me say that part of the basis of that idea was to create an incentive for WG participation. A WG setting is much better suited for a constructive discussion on policy concerns than the public comment process. Chuck From: Gnso-igo-ingo <gnso-igo-ingo-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Andrea Glandon Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 3:11 PM To: gnso-igo-ingo@icann.org; Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma@gmail.com>; Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca>; Tatiana Tropina <tatiana.tropina@gmail.com>; Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com>; mpsilvavalent@gmail.com; rafik.dammak@gmail.com; farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii@gmail.com>; Heather Forrest <haforrestesq@gmail.com>; Dennis Chang <dennis.chang@icann.org>; Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi@icann.org> Cc: gnso-secs@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-igo-ingo] Recordings, attendance & AC Chat | Reconvened IGO-INGO Protections in all gTLDs PDP Working Group on Red Cross Names Call to Discuss Recommendations| Wednesday, 12 September 2018 Dear all, Please find attached the attendance and AC chat and below the mp3 and Adobe Connect recording for the reconvened IGO-INGO Protections in all gTLDs PDP Working Group on Red Cross Names call to discuss recommendations held on Wednesday, 12 September 2018 at 13:00 UTC. Mp3: <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__audio.icann.org_gnso_gn...> https://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-red-cross-recs-12sep18-en.mp3 AC recording: <https://participate.icann.org/p6y990qikgd/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=81a39a1ebb180a13c...> https://participate.icann.org/p6y990qikgd/ The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_group-...> http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar[gnso.icann.org] Mailing list archive: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo/> http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo/ Agenda Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/aQCrBQ ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Kind Regards, Andrea Glandon
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Andrea Glandon -
Chuck -
Heather Forrest