Dear All, The next Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Part D Working Group meeting is scheduled for next Monday 04 November 2013 at 1600 UTC. Please find the MP3 recording for the IRTP Part D Working Group call held on Monday 28 October 2013 at 15:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-irtp-d-20131028-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may>oct The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: James Bladel - RrSG Chris Chaplow – CBUC Avri Doria – NCSG Barbara Knight – RySG Volker Greimann - RrSG Mikey O'Connor – ISPCP Holly Raiche – ALAC Angie Graves – CBUC Graeme Bunton - RrSG Apologies: Kristine Dorrain – NAF Kevin Erdman - IPC Paul Diaz - RySG ICANN staff: Lars Hoffmann Glen De Saint Géry Julia Charvolen ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-irtpd/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/B4JwAg Thank you. Kind regards, Julia Charvolen Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday 28 October 2013: Lars Hoffmann: Welcome to the IRTP Part D PDP WG Meeting, Monday 28 October 2013 Julia Charvolen: Chris Chaplow joinedd the meeting Julia Charvolen: Volker Greimann joined the call Avri Doria: I think if we don't give the registratn a right to initiaite or her own, we must have a forcing function. Avri Doria: willwe make this an ombudsman duty? Avri Doria: the ombudsman already has this jurisdiction, i expect, it is just that most registrants would not know this. Chris Chaplow: Isnt Ombudsman only cases against ICANN corp and not the stakeholders, must be compliance? Lars Hoffmann: Current 'job description' of the Ombudsman: Lars Hoffmann: http://www.icann.org/en/help/ombudsman Holly Raiche: @Chris - that is my undeerstandingfor Ombudsman jurisdiction Avri Doria: ombudsman can take any case where soemone has been treated unfairly, unless they are an employee Avri Doria: look at the case he filed against the ICC dispute resolution services. Avri Doria: filed on behalf of someone who wanted to file an objection and was late inpaying. Holly Raiche 2: I just had a look at the link Lars provided - and it confines Ombudsman jurisdiction to what ICANN does - so we would need to clarify the jurisdiction issue Avri Doria: reading http://www.icann.org/en/about/governance/bylaws#V i am not sure it would extend to registrars, but to a dispute resoltion service has already been shown. Avri Doria: so it would be a question. Avri Doria: Volchers solution seems very burdenson on the registrant Avri Doria: I think there if the registrant can't do it themselves, someone need to be reponsible for doing on their behalf. Volker Greimann: Avri: The registrant must always be responsible, as the registrant is under normal circumstances the only party actually interested in this Avri Doria: nothing new aded Volker Greimann: you have sun? lucky you. been raining here all day Holly Raiche 2: Agree with the fundamental principle of registrant access to appeal Volker Greimann: Mikey: I agree, that is my impression as well. Volker Greimann: instead of designing two processes that do what they are supposed to do, we are overloading one process with additional goals Holly Raiche 2: makes sense to me Avri Doria: Registrant issues do need to be dealt with, even if they are white whlies. Avri Doria: whales Lars Hoffmann: http://buenosaires48.icann.org/en/schedule?date=2013-11-20