Dear All, The next Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Part D Working Group meeting is scheduled for next Monday 21 October 2013 at 1500 UTC. Please find the MP3 recording for the IRTP Part D Working Group call held on Monday 14 October 2013 at 15:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-irtp-d-20131014-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may>oct The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: James Bladel - RrSG Avri Doria – NCSG Kristine Dorrain – NAF Kevin Erdman - IPC Rob Golding - RrSG Barbara Knight – RySG Bob Mountain - RrSG Mikey O'Connor – ISPCP Holly Raiche – ALAC Apologies: Paul Diaz – RySG Chris Chaplow – CBUC ICANN staff: Lars Hoffmann Julia Charvolen ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-irtpd/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/B4JwAg Thank you. Kind regards, Julia Charvolen Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday 14 October 2013: Julia Charvolen:Welcome to the IRTP Part D Working Group Meeting - 14 October 2013 at 1500 UTC Bob Mountain:Good morning all Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):@mikey - who initiates a TDRP if not the registrant ? Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):i.e. arent they all registrant initiated ? Mike O'Connor:registrars do today Lars Hoffmann:@rob - currently only registrars can initiate Mike O'Connor:nope - none Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):@Lars - but surely they do son on instruction from their client (the registrant) ? Lars Hoffmann:presumably that is the case but they are not obliged to follow instructions. Avri Doria:i reserve my right for a howl of outrage later once I understand better Barbara Knight-RySG:Mikey, In last week's meeting you mentioned that it may be helpful for me to participate in the sub-group meeting. If there will be future meetings and you would like me to participate, I am happy to do that and would just need to know when they occur. :-) Mike O'Connor:that would be great Kevin Erdman:Here is how to document non-action: (1) copy of request, (2) affidavit that nothing happened Avri Doria:in thick whois - the registry Avri Doria:and the whole world will be thick someday Avri Doria:also most registrant will have some sort of evidence to present. Avri Doria:decsion of stand to appeal Avri Doria:standing Avri Doria:we are all familiar with that criteria for DR Lars Hoffmann:Kristine has just joined. Kristine Dorrain:My apologies, I got busy and forgot... Avri Doria:In thick whois, are registrars still the only ones with authoritative information? Holly Raiche:that works Bladel:SOrry, i mis read that as "thin". Avri Doria:I was just reponding to James' comment that the registrar is the only authoritative, whereas I thought it was fuzzier than that. Barbara Knight-RySG:Avri - In the case of a thick Registry, the registries would also have the registrant details as passed to them by the registrar. Barbara Knight-RySG:It is my understanding that the data that is in the registry database is considered authoritative under the policy. Of course, if the registry is thin, then the registrar database information relating to the registrant details would be authoritative. Avri Doria:Barbara, thanks, that is what I thought. And was basing my opinion on a role for Registries on the fact that, for better or worse, all gRegistries will be thick in the not so distant future Bladel:Agree that this work improves if that subteam gets a bit larger. Kristine Dorrain:Yes Holly Raiche:We are in daylight savings now Kristine Dorrain:Thanks!