Dear All, The next Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Part D Working Group meeting is scheduled for next Monday 14 October 2013 at 1500 UTC. Please find the MP3 recording for the IRTP Part D Working Group call held on Monday 07 October 2013 at 15:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-irtp-d-20131007-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may>oct The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Volker Greimann – RrSG James Bladel - RrSG Kristine Dorrain – NAF Chris Chaplow – CBUC Mikey O'Connor – ISPCP Graeme Bunton - RrSG Avri Doria – NCSG Bob Mountain - RrSG Apologies: Holly Raiche – ALAC Paul Diaz – RySG Bartlett Morgan – NCUC Barbara Knight – RySG Kevin Erdman - IPC Rob Golding - RrSG ICANN staff: Lars Hoffmann Marika Konings Julia Charvolen ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-irtpd/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/B4JwAg Thank you. Kind regards, Julia Charvolen Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday 07 October 2013: Lars Hoffmann:Welcome to the IRTP Part D PDP WG Meeting on Monday, 7 October 2013 Bob Mountain:Morning everyone Graeme Bunton:I bet they are in a conference room together, laughing and twisting their mustaches Kristine Dorrain:LOL Avri Doria:Special place, where did he say? Kristine Dorrain:James, we think it's critical that the Registries weigh in! Kristine Dorrain:One reminder: in the TDRP, the losing Registrar always pays..... Kristine Dorrain:We only need to decide if/how to do a loser pays in the case of the Registrant/claimant Graeme Bunton:Agreed Kristine Dorrain:Avri: There is an issue in the case of a Registrant-claimant as to *who* exactly the "losing party" is Bladel:SPeaking individually, This idea could be a deal-breaker for allowing registrants access to the TDRP Avri Doria:perhaps then we are looking for somethng other than aan ICANN DR process. Bladel::) Avri Doria:James how ICANN of you. (-: Bladel:Yes, we have become creatures of our environment. :) Kristine Dorrain:James, it's hard to think of a policy that works for registrars that do work hard for their customers and to resolve conflicts and how to deal with really PITA registrars. Bladel:Espeically given that the latter will just pass those fees thru to the affected party. Avri Doria:i owuld assume that registrars that do the right thing and serve their customers are not the ones that will be hit by these disputes. Avri Doria:well if passing the fees through to the a third party bad buy is an option, then what is the problem? Avri Doria:... a thrid party bad guy ... Volker Greimann:I can see how this would be modeled on the UDRP, so if you bring a process, you pay Kristine Dorrain:Actually Avri...people who use good registrars still get their names stolen. Julia Charvolen:recordings are stopped i AC room Bladel:Hijackers tend to use terrble credit cards. ;) Avri Doria:i think all of my credit cards are terrible. Julia Charvolen:Thank you Marika Konings:Do note that the publication deadline for Buenos Aires is 28 October.... Marika Konings:so if the intention is to obtain community input during BA, you are expected to publish by that date. Marika Konings:However, if you are only planning to present / share the findings of the report, there may be more flexibility Marika Konings:You may also want to consider to present the report during BA and then formally publish it right after BA for public comment Marika Konings:to not get into trouble with the publication deadline and people complaining about releasing documents just prior to an ICANN meeting