Hi, The GNSO council did not really do typing because at that time it was a bit more difficult to predict the types and especially to predict the specific needs of each type. Or so I thought. All types that we now have were added by the Staff and Board. The council talked about a special status and protection for communities but did not define it a type. The AGB did. It defined communities as probables gamers of the system and created a set of fees, penalties and hurdles for them. The Council said there would be no geographical types, the Board decided otherwise. The Council said all RPM would be voluntary, the Staff and Board decided otherwise Certainly, given the amount of data we have now, not only about types, but what is special about their application needs, focusing a good deal of effort on types and the various application requirements for those types would be a necessary thing before any other round were to be comtemplated. avri On 29-Apr-15 03:56, BRG wrote:
Jacob, indeed this is a telling graph. It also demonstrates the short-sighted of the GNSO Council (I was a member at the time) in characterising potential TLDs into just four types.
Philip
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Further to yesterday's discussion, here are some stats from: http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/statistics
In terms of discussing whether to include a note the about low diversity of types of applications, this chart shows that it would be significantly _more unfair_ to remove the point than to include it. /(Note I excluded 17 community applications that were brands e.g. .bugatti, with apologies to Bugatti owners.)/
Whether the low diversity is appropriate or not is something we should discuss remaining neutral on, but the fact remains there were four options in the AGB: Community, Geographic, IDN and Standard and almost 90% were of one type.
In other words, this was unequivocally not a diverse application round in terms of types of applications.
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On 27 April 2015 at 08:11, Liz Williams <tldomainsolutions@gmail.com <mailto:tldomainsolutions@gmail.com>> wrote:
And I am the same as I pointed out to Avri in a separate message.
Liz
On 27 Apr 2015, at 15:56, Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com <mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com>> wrote:
And I thought I was the one that was left out J
For the record, I and my employer, Valideus, do represent several non-commercial, community applicants/registries, but your point is well taken.
We will try our best to do the document clean up, but of course will run everything by the group to make sure that we got it right (or not). We will also make sure that we turn around redlines so that you can see the changes.
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Hi,
I should have said 3 people who i like and trust ... but I keep forgetting about the third capo.
avri
On 27-Apr-15 10:32, Avri Doria wrote:
Hi,
I was surprised that we did not actually
Review Draft Exec Summary / Matrix / Charter
But since some of the comment I rushed to get in in time for the meeting were not complete, I suppose I should be grateful.
I want to reiterate my discomfort with the increasing tend, seen again in this group, of chairs taking control of the content and taking the pen in a relative opaque manner. In this case we have 2 people who I like and trust as people (a purely subjective statement), but none of whom have non-commercial, community applicant not user points of view (possibly an objective statement).
I guess I will have to wait to see how it all works out. And hope.
avri
On 24-Apr-15 14:30, Steve Chan wrote:
Dear DG Members,
Please find the agenda for the upcoming DG call below. Regarding agenda item two, I encourage you all to review the documents that were circulated on Wednesday, 22 April.
*Proposed Agenda – New gTLD Subsequent Procedures – Monday 27 April at 14:00 UTC*
1. Roll Call / Updates to SOIs 2. Review Draft Exec Summary / Matrix / Charter 3. Next Steps 4. Confirm next meeting
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