Dear WG Members, For those that were able to attend the call on 8 Sept or listen to the MP3, you will have heard me mention a template that is intended to assist in collecting issues. Attached, please find that template. I would ask that this template be completed for each individual issue, even for those that have already been shared with the email list or on the Wiki. It is my view that this template will be beneficial in understanding the scope of the issue and the path for resolution, be it a Policy Development Process, guidance to the GDD team, or other. Note, this path for resolution is distinct and separate from creating a solution to the issue, which I would consider beyond the scope of what is to be accomplished by this Discussion Group. A couple of other important elements that the template is attempting to capture is the interdependency with other issues and the priority of the issues. Upon completing the templates, please reply and share to the list. I will then post them on the Wiki here (https://community.icann.org/display/DGNGSR/Issue+Templates) in an effort to consolidate the contributions in one central location. I will likely create subpages for each individual issue so that if there are multiple contributions for the same issue, they will be grouped and eventually combined into a single document for the issue, with group agreement that the issue is captured properly. Please try to submit your contributions by 22 September 2014. Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns. Best, Steven Chan Sr. Policy Manager ICANN 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094-2536 steve.chan@icann.org <mailto:steve.chan@icann.org> direct: +1.310.301.3886 mobile: +1.310.339.4410 tel: +1.310.301.5800 fax: +1.310.823.8649
On 11-Sep-14 19:27, Steve Chan wrote:
For those that were able to attend the call on 8 Sept or listen to the MP3, you will have heard me mention a template that is intended to assist in collecting issues.
why a template? i guess i am new to this group, but did it agree to limit itself to these boxes? why? avri
Hi Avri, As one of the objectives of the group is to 'identify subjects for future issue reports', it was suggested that it might be helpful to collect as much information as possible about each subject to assist the group in this process and allow it to make a determination whether an issue should be addressed via policy development or whether there are other means to address it (or whether additional research / data would need to be gathered before staring policy development) and make recommendations accordingly to the GNSO Council. As such, staff developed the template that Steve circulated. However, if you and others are of the view that this is not helpful or that other or additional questions should be included, please let the list know. We are just trying to figure out a way to get from a long list of issues that in certain cases are described by not more than two or three words (and in many cases sound more like solutions than actual issues) to a detailed overview of the issues, including supporting data / information as well as recommendations to the GNSO Council to how these should / can be addressed. Best regards, Marika On 12/09/14 04:29, "Avri Doria" <avri@acm.org> wrote:
On 11-Sep-14 19:27, Steve Chan wrote:
For those that were able to attend the call on 8 Sept or listen to the MP3, you will have heard me mention a template that is intended to assist in collecting issues.
why a template?
i guess i am new to this group, but did it agree to limit itself to these boxes? why?
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People have different ways of visualizing information. Previously, members have shared the frustrations they get from mailing lists and being bombarded with information every second. A matrix like the one shared helps collate all issues in a central place and avoids repeating ourselves over and over. I assume the matrix is not cast in stone and any member may post issues and comments in the traditional manner we are used to, then one person will consolidate them in a meaningful way. Warm Regards On 12/09/2014, Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org> wrote:
Hi Avri,
As one of the objectives of the group is to 'identify subjects for future issue reports', it was suggested that it might be helpful to collect as much information as possible about each subject to assist the group in this process and allow it to make a determination whether an issue should be addressed via policy development or whether there are other means to address it (or whether additional research / data would need to be gathered before staring policy development) and make recommendations accordingly to the GNSO Council. As such, staff developed the template that Steve circulated. However, if you and others are of the view that this is not helpful or that other or additional questions should be included, please let the list know. We are just trying to figure out a way to get from a long list of issues that in certain cases are described by not more than two or three words (and in many cases sound more like solutions than actual issues) to a detailed overview of the issues, including supporting data / information as well as recommendations to the GNSO Council to how these should / can be addressed.
Best regards,
Marika
On 12/09/14 04:29, "Avri Doria" <avri@acm.org> wrote:
On 11-Sep-14 19:27, Steve Chan wrote:
For those that were able to attend the call on 8 Sept or listen to the MP3, you will have heard me mention a template that is intended to assist in collecting issues.
why a template?
i guess i am new to this group, but did it agree to limit itself to these boxes? why?
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Hi, I can certainly see how at the end of the day, having a matrix like this assembled in wiki space will be a useful thing. Needing to fill out a word form for each idea seems a bit much, but will see what I can do. Might also help to have the issues already sent in in text abstracted into these boxes. I also wonder about eschewing proposed solutions at this point. Perhaps they belong in a different set of boxes. I am not sure that every change needs to be anchored in a problem. Some can be anchored in principles and other imperatives. avri On 12-Sep-14 03:03, Marika Konings wrote:
Hi Avri,
As one of the objectives of the group is to 'identify subjects for future issue reports', it was suggested that it might be helpful to collect as much information as possible about each subject to assist the group in this process and allow it to make a determination whether an issue should be addressed via policy development or whether there are other means to address it (or whether additional research / data would need to be gathered before staring policy development) and make recommendations accordingly to the GNSO Council. As such, staff developed the template that Steve circulated. However, if you and others are of the view that this is not helpful or that other or additional questions should be included, please let the list know. We are just trying to figure out a way to get from a long list of issues that in certain cases are described by not more than two or three words (and in many cases sound more like solutions than actual issues) to a detailed overview of the issues, including supporting data / information as well as recommendations to the GNSO Council to how these should / can be addressed.
Best regards,
Marika
On 12/09/14 04:29, "Avri Doria" <avri@acm.org> wrote:
On 11-Sep-14 19:27, Steve Chan wrote:
For those that were able to attend the call on 8 Sept or listen to the MP3, you will have heard me mention a template that is intended to assist in collecting issues.
why a template?
i guess i am new to this group, but did it agree to limit itself to these boxes? why?
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A little helpful background on the purpose and use of the template. The "issue reports" that precede the creation of a GNSO Policy Development Process are created by the ICANN staff. Given the potential magnitude of that task given the present growing set of issues on new gTLDs, coupled with the fact that the Staff creation of the issue reports is time-limited once the reports are requested, I think it's a good idea that Steve and his team have provided us with a list of the inputs that they would find necessary or helpful when writing up the issue reports. Now, that said, while I encourage everyone to read the model template and work toward it when possible, I don't want anyone to think that the use of the template is required, at least at this stage. I don't want the use of the template to create friction on the submission of issues. We also can treat this as an iterative process. Let's get all of the issues on the table and try to understand the problems that the issues are designed to address. This is really Questions 1 and 5 of the template. If you have time to complete the template in full, that's great, but if you want to start with just the formulation of the issue (#1) and perhaps a general overview of the problem (#5), that's fine too. Once all of the issues are on the table, we can start to discuss them and flesh out some of the issues that Steve and his team will need. I think it's really helpful that we know upfront how ICANN staff will be organizing its work, and we ought to organize our own work with an eye towards having this template complete(ish) by the time we finish our work, but it doesn't need to be done upfront. Work in the manner that suits you, and we will conform our work to the desired out-put down the road. Bret
Hi, Synthesis tables of the discussion are a great idea. I agree And a forms on the wiki, or some other suitable tool. Where group members can just go fill in squares they see empty that they want to add something to. I still shudder at the idea of filling out multiple documents with a problem each. The main problem I had with the form is that it assumes a certain solution, that we will do what we just did again with maybe a few minor tweaks. That is a pre-determined solution I hope we can avoid. As I explained, I think the AGB is not something that should be used again as it was an implementation that strayed much too far from the policy recommendations. It is that solution, of reusing the AGB, being on the table and permeating the form, that convinced me I better suggest other possible solutions even before we discussed the problems and necessary fixes. avri On 12-Sep-14 13:42, Bret Fausett wrote:
A little helpful background on the purpose and use of the template.
The "issue reports" that precede the creation of a GNSO Policy Development Process are created by the ICANN staff. Given the potential magnitude of that task given the present growing set of issues on new gTLDs, coupled with the fact that the Staff creation of the issue reports is time-limited once the reports are requested, I think it's a good idea that Steve and his team have provided us with a list of the inputs that they would find necessary or helpful when writing up the issue reports.
Now, that said, while I encourage everyone to read the model template and work toward it when possible, I don't want anyone to think that the use of the template is required, at least at this stage. I don't want the use of the template to create friction on the submission of issues.
We also can treat this as an iterative process. Let's get all of the issues on the table and try to understand the problems that the issues are designed to address. This is really Questions 1 and 5 of the template. If you have time to complete the template in full, that's great, but if you want to start with just the formulation of the issue (#1) and perhaps a general overview of the problem (#5), that's fine too. Once all of the issues are on the table, we can start to discuss them and flesh out some of the issues that Steve and his team will need.
I think it's really helpful that we know upfront how ICANN staff will be organizing its work, and we ought to organize our own work with an eye towards having this template complete(ish) by the time we finish our work, but it doesn't need to be done upfront. Work in the manner that suits you, and we will conform our work to the desired out-put down the road.
Bret
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