I'm sure you are Greg! And it was only meant a a slow ball to open up the discussion as you already know me well :) :) :) I have hear from some active members of the WT5 than come from the ccTLD side that they worry more about what happens with GeoNames at the second level than at the top one. The artificial lmits we have set on the scope of thirs WT, as well as in previous charters like the ccNSO-GNSO CWG on Country and Territory names, are the best example of the fact that by dragging its feet in the relevant policy issue, we are in the process of make ourselves irrelevant and others will fill the vacuum sooner rather than later. The asymmetries between the top and the second level, the asymmetries between worldwide generics and global TLDs, and the asymmetries in the different levels of restrictions within the new generics are not only a serious limitation in the openness of the internet, but are creating great opportunities to deal with the peoples wishes in other, closed platforms. Look forward to our call tomorrow Tuesday in my case, for some fast balls. --- Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- mQENBFqh7xwBCAC7PBUUek72U8teLrAieWI+JBo/nz0rQObzKgzGNWm2bb+i90mD roNsrvwDJiGOsB/VAhJy6ilIhs++QrxhVEzMz6oKJa8ANaNNvnK2Z8heYm1aC97E qY6y1z853b6F3XrN8262dor9NZEqaK28NVwLsFTfkGKhb4f3rJlCDmhwxt5VHhBQ MHKGxyutq0fyJpG6QpoAoRLaYXrq+xjXARhN9JBjeRRzbjnBbWt7+lRdCrZdOxfD ivRut9F2zMJq8RmeI5goTcq03IRLtKf41A6Np5K//HLe7GlHWH9g4pSKF+UB+EMe S506TxI0dVbyT3jlTnhhfNA/bpQXHcdCZ5EhABEBAAG0F2Nhcmxvc3JhdWxAZ3V0 aWVycmV6LnNliQEcBBABAgAGBQJaoe8cAAoJEOkK/VKjr2tvztgH/1zInwNszd4w 21UilxVmXX2J1SPZG6xXwbwU5BukIm7iBVYwxxPlIAZdJbG0/QynK2oWU1e1Zjed vBemfJtjOn2yRWo3P13PUV/2/trHWgUk5bA3eIUbWDW5fQRLW+TaHC7TuRKgRaJC NgdBItEniQz7DakGzld3PWmsTvIWd4N/fqzATD3DOZmONF52lyVuAEvKoF4rMRTR emvCrL66xEu19u9+Urk7R+DQuFQMNuX0MqC6/vIsmXYZPH7jnV6ZDyzb0BUnjYcx 6MH/YwJx29yjA4iN1NpwCpy1hc+YP1oavz2t+6isM6wB0mXlAazw2d83zwypsH6C 8xgjuRFm9xQ= =RX04 -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- El 2018-04-30 11:35, Greg Shatan escribió:
I'm well aware of the scope of the WG. However, we don't operate in a vacuum, and this case is both relevant and instructive -- in terms of issues and arguments and for outcomes.
Greg
On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 1:24 PM Robin Gross <robin@ipjustice.org> wrote: It is also a reminder of the level of bullying that some governments are capable of doing in this space and their disregard for the legitimate rights of others to use words in the DNS. This is a serious concern -- to see such little regard for the freedom of expression rights to use words with a geographic meaning. Absent an actual internationally agreed legal rule that holds people can't use the word "France" or other words with geographic meanings, it would be a huge mistake for ICANN to adopt such an anti-innovation and pro-censorship position in domain name policy as demanded by some govts here.
Robin
On Apr 29, 2018, at 3:36 PM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii@gmail.com> wrote:
Great, lets keep it limited. But thanks Greg for reminding us where we can end up.. some supported two-letter second level domain names that correspond to cctlds to go to governments and cctld managers in new gtlds. Some of those were generic pronouns like in and it. But no one had mercy on generic names and no justifiable reason was given other than oh governments own everything when it comes to their cctld... or at least can claim ownership. The irony? Some of those cctld managers are actually private companies benefiting handsomely from this.
Farzaneh On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Carlos Raul Gutierrez <carlosraul@gutierrez.se> wrote:
Thanks Greg!
Very interesting but I'm afraid our scope is limited to the top level.....
On April 29, 2018 1:31:59 PM CST, Javier Rua <javrua@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks Greg.
Javier Rúa-Jovet
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On Apr 29, 2018, at 2:05 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> wrote:
I thought this article would be of interest to WT5.
Greg
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