Hi Greg Thanks for your response. I am sorry that I was unclear. For me second level is totally different from first level, as there are so many possibilities today to have a name, be it geographical or purely generic, at second level, since there are so many TLDs now, after 2012. And it will be impossible for one «word» to register under all TLDs. As there will be only one applicant that can have the same word at first level, as TLD, in my view france.com<http://france.com> and .france are different. Kindly Annebeth Annebeth B Lange Special Adviser International Policy UNINETT Norid AS Phone: +47 959 11 559 Mail: annebeth.lange@norid.no<mailto:annebeth.lange@norid.no> 30. apr. 2018 kl. 19:36 skrev Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com<mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com>>: I’m well aware of the scope of the WG. However, we don’t operate in a vacuum, and this case is both relevant and instructive — in terms of issues and arguments and for outcomes. Greg On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 1:24 PM Robin Gross <robin@ipjustice.org<mailto:robin@ipjustice.org>> wrote: It is also a reminder of the level of bullying that some governments are capable of doing in this space and their disregard for the legitimate rights of others to use words in the DNS. This is a serious concern -- to see such little regard for the freedom of expression rights to use words with a geographic meaning. Absent an actual internationally agreed legal rule that holds people can’t use the word “France” or other words with geographic meanings, it would be a huge mistake for ICANN to adopt such an anti-innovation and pro-censorship position in domain name policy as demanded by some govts here. Robin On Apr 29, 2018, at 3:36 PM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii@gmail.com<mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com>> wrote: Great, lets keep it limited. But thanks Greg for reminding us where we can end up.. some supported two-letter second level domain names that correspond to cctlds to go to governments and cctld managers in new gtlds. Some of those were generic pronouns like in and it. But no one had mercy on generic names and no justifiable reason was given other than oh governments own everything when it comes to their cctld... or at least can claim ownership. The irony? Some of those cctld managers are actually private companies benefiting handsomely from this. Farzaneh On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Carlos Raul Gutierrez <carlosraul@gutierrez.se<mailto:carlosraul@gutierrez.se>> wrote: Thanks Greg! Very interesting but I'm afraid our scope is limited to the top level..... On April 29, 2018 1:31:59 PM CST, Javier Rua <javrua@gmail.com<mailto:javrua@gmail.com>> wrote: Thanks Greg. Javier Rúa-Jovet +1-787-396-6511 twitter: @javrua skype: javier.rua1 https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua On Apr 29, 2018, at 2:05 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com<mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com>> wrote: I thought this article would be of interest to WT5. Greg ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com<mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com>> Date: Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 12:37 PM Subject: France seizes France.com<http://france.com/> from man who’s had it since ‘94, so he sues - Ars Technica To: <gregshatanipc@gmail.com<mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com>> France seizes France.com<http://france.com/> from man who’s had it since ‘94, so he sues - Ars Technica https://apple.news/AxM_G3MkGSXW8YOXTibo8wg _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5