While your message is clear Aslam, I would set the boundaries rather differently: Either ICANN's policy development process is able to come up with a Domain Name policy that is "consistent" over all categories and for all areas (1st and 2nd level, brands, ccTLD mangers, pure unrestricted generics, GeoNames, communities, highly restricted sectors, and whatever other sub-segmenet you may want to include) or somebody else will do it for us. For there is no weaker Achilles heel in policy making, than inconsistency over time. --- Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- mQENBFqh7xwBCAC7PBUUek72U8teLrAieWI+JBo/nz0rQObzKgzGNWm2bb+i90mD roNsrvwDJiGOsB/VAhJy6ilIhs++QrxhVEzMz6oKJa8ANaNNvnK2Z8heYm1aC97E qY6y1z853b6F3XrN8262dor9NZEqaK28NVwLsFTfkGKhb4f3rJlCDmhwxt5VHhBQ MHKGxyutq0fyJpG6QpoAoRLaYXrq+xjXARhN9JBjeRRzbjnBbWt7+lRdCrZdOxfD ivRut9F2zMJq8RmeI5goTcq03IRLtKf41A6Np5K//HLe7GlHWH9g4pSKF+UB+EMe S506TxI0dVbyT3jlTnhhfNA/bpQXHcdCZ5EhABEBAAG0F2Nhcmxvc3JhdWxAZ3V0 aWVycmV6LnNliQEcBBABAgAGBQJaoe8cAAoJEOkK/VKjr2tvztgH/1zInwNszd4w 21UilxVmXX2J1SPZG6xXwbwU5BukIm7iBVYwxxPlIAZdJbG0/QynK2oWU1e1Zjed vBemfJtjOn2yRWo3P13PUV/2/trHWgUk5bA3eIUbWDW5fQRLW+TaHC7TuRKgRaJC NgdBItEniQz7DakGzld3PWmsTvIWd4N/fqzATD3DOZmONF52lyVuAEvKoF4rMRTR emvCrL66xEu19u9+Urk7R+DQuFQMNuX0MqC6/vIsmXYZPH7jnV6ZDyzb0BUnjYcx 6MH/YwJx29yjA4iN1NpwCpy1hc+YP1oavz2t+6isM6wB0mXlAazw2d83zwypsH6C 8xgjuRFm9xQ= =RX04 -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- El 2018-04-30 11:58, Aslam Mohamed escribió:
I can't but agree with you more Greg. In our blinkered view of a limited mandate we disregard the big picture. But ICANN seems confused on how to tackle the governmental autocracy. The issue lies there - diplomacy or war?
Yours sincerely, Aslam G Mohamed. IP Attorney International Legal Consulting M: +1 646 243 9857.
On Apr 30, 2018, at 1:35 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm well aware of the scope of the WG. However, we don't operate in a vacuum, and this case is both relevant and instructive -- in terms of issues and arguments and for outcomes.
Greg
On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 1:24 PM Robin Gross <robin@ipjustice.org> wrote: It is also a reminder of the level of bullying that some governments are capable of doing in this space and their disregard for the legitimate rights of others to use words in the DNS. This is a serious concern -- to see such little regard for the freedom of expression rights to use words with a geographic meaning. Absent an actual internationally agreed legal rule that holds people can't use the word "France" or other words with geographic meanings, it would be a huge mistake for ICANN to adopt such an anti-innovation and pro-censorship position in domain name policy as demanded by some govts here.
Robin
On Apr 29, 2018, at 3:36 PM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii@gmail.com> wrote:
Great, lets keep it limited. But thanks Greg for reminding us where we can end up.. some supported two-letter second level domain names that correspond to cctlds to go to governments and cctld managers in new gtlds. Some of those were generic pronouns like in and it. But no one had mercy on generic names and no justifiable reason was given other than oh governments own everything when it comes to their cctld... or at least can claim ownership. The irony? Some of those cctld managers are actually private companies benefiting handsomely from this.
Farzaneh On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Carlos Raul Gutierrez <carlosraul@gutierrez.se> wrote:
Thanks Greg!
Very interesting but I'm afraid our scope is limited to the top level.....
On April 29, 2018 1:31:59 PM CST, Javier Rua <javrua@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks Greg.
Javier Rúa-Jovet
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On Apr 29, 2018, at 2:05 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> wrote:
I thought this article would be of interest to WT5.
Greg
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