Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] [Ext] AW: Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC
Dear all, It appears that we neglected to walk through these new comments from Jorge on the call yesterday. If there are any strong objections to the following, please respond on list by 21:00 UTC tomorrow, 30 November: * On page 12, remove sentence “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” * On page 42, add the word “some” to the sentence referenced below. Kind regards, Emily From: "Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch" <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch> Date: Wednesday, 28 November 2018 at 11:42 To: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org>, "gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> Subject: [Ext] AW: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC Dear Emily Please include the following comments in the consideration: * Page 12: “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” --> this is just the opinion expressed (as far as I know) by one member. “inconsistent” is a value call. We could say that there were different treatments – whether that differentiation was inconsistent or not has not been agreed. * Page 42: the following heading/intro seems to reflect an agreed view, when it is only the view of “some”, hence it should read “Some of the issues problems and negative experiences that some Work Track members identified from the 2012 round include the following.” Best regards Jorge Von: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org> Im Auftrag von Emily Barabas Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. November 2018 20:52 An: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org Betreff: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC Dear all, Please find below the proposed agenda for the Work Track 5 call taking place tomorrow 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC for 90 mins. 1. Welcome/Agenda Review/SOI Updates 2. Initial Report – Outstanding Items 3. AOB * Additional information request – Geographic Names Panel Please find attached the latest version of the draft Initial Report. This version incorporates new feedback received in the last week. New comments are highlighted in either blue or yellow. For those highlighted in blue, the resolution was relatively straightforward and staff has proposed edits. Comments in yellow require additional input and will be discussed on the call tomorrow. Kind regards, Emily Emily Barabas | Policy Manager ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers Email: emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org> | Phone: +31 (0)6 84507976
Hi all I have no strong objections to this. Actually, it is important to highlight it when it is only «some», so it does not seem like it is a view the whole group shares. Best regards, Annebeth Annebeth B Lange Special Adviser International Policy UNINETT Norid AS Phone: +47 959 11 559 Mail: annebeth.lange@norid.no<mailto:annebeth.lange@norid.no> 29. nov. 2018 kl. 22:00 skrev Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org>>: Dear all, It appears that we neglected to walk through these new comments from Jorge on the call yesterday. If there are any strong objections to the following, please respond on list by 21:00 UTC tomorrow, 30 November: * On page 12, remove sentence “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” * On page 42, add the word “some” to the sentence referenced below. Kind regards, Emily From: "Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch<mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch>" <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch<mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch>> Date: Wednesday, 28 November 2018 at 11:42 To: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org>>, "gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org>" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org>> Subject: [Ext] AW: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC Dear Emily Please include the following comments in the consideration: * Page 12: “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” --> this is just the opinion expressed (as far as I know) by one member. “inconsistent” is a value call. We could say that there were different treatments – whether that differentiation was inconsistent or not has not been agreed. * Page 42: the following heading/intro seems to reflect an agreed view, when it is only the view of “some”, hence it should read “Some of the issues problems and negative experiences that some Work Track members identified from the 2012 round include the following.” Best regards Jorge Von: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org>> Im Auftrag von Emily Barabas Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. November 2018 20:52 An: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> Betreff: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC Dear all, Please find below the proposed agenda for the Work Track 5 call taking place tomorrow 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC for 90 mins. 1. Welcome/Agenda Review/SOI Updates 2. Initial Report – Outstanding Items 3. AOB * Additional information request – Geographic Names Panel Please find attached the latest version of the draft Initial Report. This version incorporates new feedback received in the last week. New comments are highlighted in either blue or yellow. For those highlighted in blue, the resolution was relatively straightforward and staff has proposed edits. Comments in yellow require additional input and will be discussed on the call tomorrow. Kind regards, Emily Emily Barabas | Policy Manager ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers Email: emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org> | Phone: +31 (0)6 84507976 _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5
Hi. Agree with Annebeth. Javier Javier Rúa-Jovet +1-787-396-6511 twitter: @javrua skype: javier.rua1 https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua
On Nov 30, 2018, at 3:52 AM, Annebeth Lange <annebeth.lange@norid.no> wrote:
Hi all
I have no strong objections to this. Actually, it is important to highlight it when it is only «some», so it does not seem like it is a view the whole group shares.
Best regards, Annebeth
Annebeth B Lange Special Adviser International Policy UNINETT Norid AS Phone: +47 959 11 559 Mail: annebeth.lange@norid.no
29. nov. 2018 kl. 22:00 skrev Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org>:
Dear all,
It appears that we neglected to walk through these new comments from Jorge on the call yesterday. If there are any strong objections to the following, please respond on list by 21:00 UTC tomorrow, 30 November:
On page 12, remove sentence “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” On page 42, add the word “some” to the sentence referenced below.
Kind regards, Emily
From: "Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch" <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch> Date: Wednesday, 28 November 2018 at 11:42 To: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org>, "gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> Subject: [Ext] AW: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC
Dear Emily
Please include the following comments in the consideration:
Page 12: “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” à this is just the opinion expressed (as far as I know) by one member. “inconsistent” is a value call. We could say that there were different treatments – whether that differentiation was inconsistent or not has not been agreed.
Page 42: the following heading/intro seems to reflect an agreed view, when it is only the view of “some”, hence it should read “Some of the issues problems and negative experiences that some Work Track members identified from the 2012 round include the following.”
Best regards
Jorge
Von: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org> Im Auftrag von Emily Barabas Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. November 2018 20:52 An: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org Betreff: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC
Dear all,
Please find below the proposed agenda for the Work Track 5 call taking place tomorrow 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC for 90 mins.
Welcome/Agenda Review/SOI Updates Initial Report – Outstanding Items AOB Additional information request – Geographic Names Panel
Please find attached the latest version of the draft Initial Report. This version incorporates new feedback received in the last week. New comments are highlighted in either blue or yellow. For those highlighted in blue, the resolution was relatively straightforward and staff has proposed edits. Comments in yellow require additional input and will be discussed on the call tomorrow.
Kind regards, Emily
Emily Barabas | Policy Manager ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers Email: emily.barabas@icann.org | Phone: +31 (0)6 84507976
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Dear All I agree with the first ( para. 12) but I have difficulty with paragraph 42not due to the addition on some proposed by Jorge but on the very awkward structure of the sentence It needs to be redrafted including suggestion made by Jorge In fact U gave difficulties to grasp “ negative experience”as experience usually is not associated with adjective such as positive or negative due to the fact that the use of such adjective is purely subjective . Regards Kavouss Sent from my iPhone
On 30 Nov 2018, at 08:52, Annebeth Lange <annebeth.lange@norid.no> wrote:
Hi all
I have no strong objections to this. Actually, it is important to highlight it when it is only «some», so it does not seem like it is a view the whole group shares.
Best regards, Annebeth
Annebeth B Lange Special Adviser International Policy UNINETT Norid AS Phone: +47 959 11 559 Mail: annebeth.lange@norid.no
29. nov. 2018 kl. 22:00 skrev Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org>:
Dear all,
It appears that we neglected to walk through these new comments from Jorge on the call yesterday. If there are any strong objections to the following, please respond on list by 21:00 UTC tomorrow, 30 November:
On page 12, remove sentence “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” On page 42, add the word “some” to the sentence referenced below.
Kind regards, Emily
From: "Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch" <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch> Date: Wednesday, 28 November 2018 at 11:42 To: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org>, "gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> Subject: [Ext] AW: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC
Dear Emily
Please include the following comments in the consideration:
Page 12: “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” à this is just the opinion expressed (as far as I know) by one member. “inconsistent” is a value call. We could say that there were different treatments – whether that differentiation was inconsistent or not has not been agreed.
Page 42: the following heading/intro seems to reflect an agreed view, when it is only the view of “some”, hence it should read “Some of the issues problems and negative experiences that some Work Track members identified from the 2012 round include the following.”
Best regards
Jorge
Von: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org> Im Auftrag von Emily Barabas Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. November 2018 20:52 An: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org Betreff: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC
Dear all,
Please find below the proposed agenda for the Work Track 5 call taking place tomorrow 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC for 90 mins.
Welcome/Agenda Review/SOI Updates Initial Report – Outstanding Items AOB Additional information request – Geographic Names Panel
Please find attached the latest version of the draft Initial Report. This version incorporates new feedback received in the last week. New comments are highlighted in either blue or yellow. For those highlighted in blue, the resolution was relatively straightforward and staff has proposed edits. Comments in yellow require additional input and will be discussed on the call tomorrow.
Kind regards, Emily
Emily Barabas | Policy Manager ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers Email: emily.barabas@icann.org | Phone: +31 (0)6 84507976
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Dear Kavouss, The sentence currently reads: “Some of the problems and negative experiences that some Work Track members identified from the 2012 round include the following. Some believe that. . .” Is this phrasing more clear: “Some Work Track members identified problems and negative experiences from the 2012 round. Some believe that. . .”? Note that there is also a sub-section in the text that describes positive experiences. Kind regards, Emily From: Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com> Date: Friday, 30 November 2018 at 12:45 To: Annebeth Lange <annebeth.lange@norid.no> Cc: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org>, "gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] [Ext] AW: Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC Dear All I agree with the first ( para. 12) but I have difficulty with paragraph 42not due to the addition on some proposed by Jorge but on the very awkward structure of the sentence It needs to be redrafted including suggestion made by Jorge In fact U gave difficulties to grasp “ negative experience”as experience usually is not associated with adjective such as positive or negative due to the fact that the use of such adjective is purely subjective . Regards Kavouss Sent from my iPhone On 30 Nov 2018, at 08:52, Annebeth Lange <annebeth.lange@norid.no<mailto:annebeth.lange@norid.no>> wrote: Hi all I have no strong objections to this. Actually, it is important to highlight it when it is only «some», so it does not seem like it is a view the whole group shares. Best regards, Annebeth Annebeth B Lange Special Adviser International Policy UNINETT Norid AS Phone: +47 959 11 559 Mail: annebeth.lange@norid.no<mailto:annebeth.lange@norid.no> 29. nov. 2018 kl. 22:00 skrev Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org>>: Dear all, It appears that we neglected to walk through these new comments from Jorge on the call yesterday. If there are any strong objections to the following, please respond on list by 21:00 UTC tomorrow, 30 November: * On page 12, remove sentence “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” * On page 42, add the word “some” to the sentence referenced below. Kind regards, Emily From: "Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch<mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch>" <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch<mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch>> Date: Wednesday, 28 November 2018 at 11:42 To: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org>>, "gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org>" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org>> Subject: [Ext] AW: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC Dear Emily Please include the following comments in the consideration: * Page 12: “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” --> this is just the opinion expressed (as far as I know) by one member. “inconsistent” is a value call. We could say that there were different treatments – whether that differentiation was inconsistent or not has not been agreed. * Page 42: the following heading/intro seems to reflect an agreed view, when it is only the view of “some”, hence it should read “Some of the issues problems and negative experiences that some Work Track members identified from the 2012 round include the following.” Best regards Jorge Von: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org>> Im Auftrag von Emily Barabas Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. November 2018 20:52 An: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> Betreff: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC Dear all, Please find below the proposed agenda for the Work Track 5 call taking place tomorrow 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC for 90 mins. 1. Welcome/Agenda Review/SOI Updates 2. Initial Report – Outstanding Items 3. AOB * Additional information request – Geographic Names Panel Please find attached the latest version of the draft Initial Report. This version incorporates new feedback received in the last week. New comments are highlighted in either blue or yellow. For those highlighted in blue, the resolution was relatively straightforward and staff has proposed edits. Comments in yellow require additional input and will be discussed on the call tomorrow. Kind regards, Emily Emily Barabas | Policy Manager ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers Email: emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org> | Phone: +31 (0)6 84507976 _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5
Dear Émilien Pls delete negative as we have already “ probkem”and does not need double negative Kavouss Sent from my iPhone
On 30 Nov 2018, at 14:36, Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Kavouss,
The sentence currently reads: “Some of the problems and negative experiences that some Work Track members identified from the 2012 round include the following. Some believe that. . .”
Is this phrasing more clear: “Some Work Track members identified problems and negative experiences from the 2012 round. Some believe that. . .”?
Note that there is also a sub-section in the text that describes positive experiences.
Kind regards, Emily
From: Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com> Date: Friday, 30 November 2018 at 12:45 To: Annebeth Lange <annebeth.lange@norid.no> Cc: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org>, "gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] [Ext] AW: Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC
Dear All I agree with the first ( para. 12) but I have difficulty with paragraph 42not due to the addition on some proposed by Jorge but on the very awkward structure of the sentence It needs to be redrafted including suggestion made by Jorge In fact U gave difficulties to grasp “ negative experience”as experience usually is not associated with adjective such as positive or negative due to the fact that the use of such adjective is purely subjective . Regards Kavouss
Sent from my iPhone
On 30 Nov 2018, at 08:52, Annebeth Lange <annebeth.lange@norid.no> wrote:
Hi all
I have no strong objections to this. Actually, it is important to highlight it when it is only «some», so it does not seem like it is a view the whole group shares.
Best regards, Annebeth
Annebeth B Lange Special Adviser International Policy UNINETT Norid AS Phone: +47 959 11 559 Mail: annebeth.lange@norid.no
29. nov. 2018 kl. 22:00 skrev Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org>:
Dear all,
It appears that we neglected to walk through these new comments from Jorge on the call yesterday. If there are any strong objections to the following, please respond on list by 21:00 UTC tomorrow, 30 November:
On page 12, remove sentence “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” On page 42, add the word “some” to the sentence referenced below.
Kind regards, Emily
From: "Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch" <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch> Date: Wednesday, 28 November 2018 at 11:42 To: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org>, "gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> Subject: [Ext] AW: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC
Dear Emily
Please include the following comments in the consideration:
Page 12: “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” à this is just the opinion expressed (as far as I know) by one member. “inconsistent” is a value call. We could say that there were different treatments – whether that differentiation was inconsistent or not has not been agreed.
Page 42: the following heading/intro seems to reflect an agreed view, when it is only the view of “some”, hence it should read “Some of the issues problems and negative experiences that some Work Track members identified from the 2012 round include the following.”
Best regards
Jorge
Von: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org> Im Auftrag von Emily Barabas Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. November 2018 20:52 An: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org Betreff: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC
Dear all,
Please find below the proposed agenda for the Work Track 5 call taking place tomorrow 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC for 90 mins.
Welcome/Agenda Review/SOI Updates Initial Report – Outstanding Items AOB Additional information request – Geographic Names Panel
Please find attached the latest version of the draft Initial Report. This version incorporates new feedback received in the last week. New comments are highlighted in either blue or yellow. For those highlighted in blue, the resolution was relatively straightforward and staff has proposed edits. Comments in yellow require additional input and will be discussed on the call tomorrow.
Kind regards, Emily
Emily Barabas | Policy Manager ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers Email: emily.barabas@icann.org | Phone: +31 (0)6 84507976
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Hi All, I didn’t think we were going to just remove “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.”, which some thought was a value judgment, but rather modify it to something like “Some believe that treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” I think this is consistent with the “Some” approach that is throughout the document. Best, Paul From: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Annebeth Lange Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 1:52 AM To: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> Cc: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] [Ext] AW: Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC Hi all I have no strong objections to this. Actually, it is important to highlight it when it is only «some», so it does not seem like it is a view the whole group shares. Best regards, Annebeth Annebeth B Lange Special Adviser International Policy UNINETT Norid AS Phone: +47 959 11 559 Mail: annebeth.lange@norid.no<mailto:annebeth.lange@norid.no> 29. nov. 2018 kl. 22:00 skrev Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org>>: Dear all, It appears that we neglected to walk through these new comments from Jorge on the call yesterday. If there are any strong objections to the following, please respond on list by 21:00 UTC tomorrow, 30 November: * On page 12, remove sentence “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” * On page 42, add the word “some” to the sentence referenced below. Kind regards, Emily From: "Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch<mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch>" <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch<mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch>> Date: Wednesday, 28 November 2018 at 11:42 To: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org>>, "gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org>" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org>> Subject: [Ext] AW: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC Dear Emily Please include the following comments in the consideration: - Page 12: “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” --> this is just the opinion expressed (as far as I know) by one member. “inconsistent” is a value call. We could say that there were different treatments – whether that differentiation was inconsistent or not has not been agreed. - Page 42: the following heading/intro seems to reflect an agreed view, when it is only the view of “some”, hence it should read “Some of the issues problems and negative experiences that some Work Track members identified from the 2012 round include the following.” Best regards Jorge Von: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org>> Im Auftrag von Emily Barabas Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. November 2018 20:52 An: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> Betreff: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC Dear all, Please find below the proposed agenda for the Work Track 5 call taking place tomorrow 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC for 90 mins. 1. Welcome/Agenda Review/SOI Updates 2. Initial Report – Outstanding Items 3. AOB - Additional information request – Geographic Names Panel Please find attached the latest version of the draft Initial Report. This version incorporates new feedback received in the last week. New comments are highlighted in either blue or yellow. For those highlighted in blue, the resolution was relatively straightforward and staff has proposed edits. Comments in yellow require additional input and will be discussed on the call tomorrow. Kind regards, Emily Emily Barabas | Policy Manager ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers Email: emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org> | Phone: +31 (0)6 84507976 _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmm.icann.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fgnso-newgtld-wg-wt5&data=02%7C01%7Cpmcgrady%40winston.com%7C9a0b0941010447779bd808d65698d655%7C12a8aae45e2f4ad8adab9375a84aa3e5%7C0%7C0%7C636791611774897429&sdata=AZFpAuOXDENS2FgAUME7dCvG3UQMqUuruEobILIr4%2Fw%3D&reserved=0> ________________________________ The contents of this message may be privileged and confidential. If this message has been received in error, please delete it without reading it. Your receipt of this message is not intended to waive any applicable privilege. Please do not disseminate this message without the permission of the author. Any tax advice contained in this email was not intended to be used, and cannot be used, by you (or any other taxpayer) to avoid penalties under applicable tax laws and regulations.
Hi all It could have been good to know “inconsistent” with what? In my mind, that word is used that way. If the “some” that suggested it could clarify that, perhaps it would be clearer` Have a wonderful weekend all, Annebeth From: "McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@winston.com> Date: Friday, 30 November 2018 at 15:50 To: "Annebeth B. Lange" <annebeth.lange@norid.no>, Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> Cc: "gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] [Ext] AW: Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC Hi All, I didn’t think we were going to just remove “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.”, which some thought was a value judgment, but rather modify it to something like “Some believe that treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” I think this is consistent with the “Some” approach that is throughout the document. Best, Paul From: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Annebeth Lange Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 1:52 AM To: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> Cc: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] [Ext] AW: Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC Hi all I have no strong objections to this. Actually, it is important to highlight it when it is only «some», so it does not seem like it is a view the whole group shares. Best regards, Annebeth Annebeth B Lange Special Adviser International Policy UNINETT Norid AS Phone: +47 959 11 559 Mail: annebeth.lange@norid.no<mailto:annebeth.lange@norid.no> 29. nov. 2018 kl. 22:00 skrev Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org>>: Dear all, It appears that we neglected to walk through these new comments from Jorge on the call yesterday. If there are any strong objections to the following, please respond on list by 21:00 UTC tomorrow, 30 November: * On page 12, remove sentence “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” * On page 42, add the word “some” to the sentence referenced below. Kind regards, Emily From: "Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch<mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch>" <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch<mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch>> Date: Wednesday, 28 November 2018 at 11:42 To: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org>>, "gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org>" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org>> Subject: [Ext] AW: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC Dear Emily Please include the following comments in the consideration: * Page 12: “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” --> this is just the opinion expressed (as far as I know) by one member. “inconsistent” is a value call. We could say that there were different treatments – whether that differentiation was inconsistent or not has not been agreed. * Page 42: the following heading/intro seems to reflect an agreed view, when it is only the view of “some”, hence it should read “Some of the issues problems and negative experiences that some Work Track members identified from the 2012 round include the following.” Best regards Jorge Von: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org>> Im Auftrag von Emily Barabas Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. November 2018 20:52 An: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> Betreff: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC Dear all, Please find below the proposed agenda for the Work Track 5 call taking place tomorrow 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC for 90 mins. 1. Welcome/Agenda Review/SOI Updates 2. Initial Report – Outstanding Items 3. AOB * Additional information request – Geographic Names Panel Please find attached the latest version of the draft Initial Report. This version incorporates new feedback received in the last week. New comments are highlighted in either blue or yellow. For those highlighted in blue, the resolution was relatively straightforward and staff has proposed edits. Comments in yellow require additional input and will be discussed on the call tomorrow. 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Do others have feedback about Paul’s suggestion? Kind regards, Emily From: Annebeth Lange <annebeth.lange@norid.no> Date: Friday, 30 November 2018 at 16:58 To: "McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@winston.com>, Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> Cc: "gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] [Ext] AW: Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC Hi all It could have been good to know “inconsistent” with what? In my mind, that word is used that way. If the “some” that suggested it could clarify that, perhaps it would be clearer` Have a wonderful weekend all, Annebeth From: "McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@winston.com> Date: Friday, 30 November 2018 at 15:50 To: "Annebeth B. Lange" <annebeth.lange@norid.no>, Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> Cc: "gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] [Ext] AW: Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC Hi All, I didn’t think we were going to just remove “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.”, which some thought was a value judgment, but rather modify it to something like “Some believe that treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” I think this is consistent with the “Some” approach that is throughout the document. Best, Paul From: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Annebeth Lange Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 1:52 AM To: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> Cc: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] [Ext] AW: Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC Hi all I have no strong objections to this. Actually, it is important to highlight it when it is only «some», so it does not seem like it is a view the whole group shares. Best regards, Annebeth Annebeth B Lange Special Adviser International Policy UNINETT Norid AS Phone: +47 959 11 559 Mail: annebeth.lange@norid.no<mailto:annebeth.lange@norid.no> 29. nov. 2018 kl. 22:00 skrev Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org>>: Dear all, It appears that we neglected to walk through these new comments from Jorge on the call yesterday. If there are any strong objections to the following, please respond on list by 21:00 UTC tomorrow, 30 November: * On page 12, remove sentence “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” * On page 42, add the word “some” to the sentence referenced below. Kind regards, Emily From: "Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch<mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch>" <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch<mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch>> Date: Wednesday, 28 November 2018 at 11:42 To: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org>>, "gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org>" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org>> Subject: [Ext] AW: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC Dear Emily Please include the following comments in the consideration: * Page 12: “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” --> this is just the opinion expressed (as far as I know) by one member. “inconsistent” is a value call. We could say that there were different treatments – whether that differentiation was inconsistent or not has not been agreed. * Page 42: the following heading/intro seems to reflect an agreed view, when it is only the view of “some”, hence it should read “Some of the issues problems and negative experiences that some Work Track members identified from the 2012 round include the following.” Best regards Jorge Von: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org>> Im Auftrag von Emily Barabas Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. November 2018 20:52 An: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> Betreff: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC Dear all, Please find below the proposed agenda for the Work Track 5 call taking place tomorrow 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC for 90 mins. 1. Welcome/Agenda Review/SOI Updates 2. Initial Report – Outstanding Items 3. AOB * Additional information request – Geographic Names Panel Please find attached the latest version of the draft Initial Report. This version incorporates new feedback received in the last week. New comments are highlighted in either blue or yellow. For those highlighted in blue, the resolution was relatively straightforward and staff has proposed edits. Comments in yellow require additional input and will be discussed on the call tomorrow. 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I think Paul’s suggestion makes sense. Greg On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 11:02 AM Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> wrote:
Do others have feedback about Paul’s suggestion?
Kind regards,
Emily
*From: *Annebeth Lange <annebeth.lange@norid.no> *Date: *Friday, 30 November 2018 at 16:58 *To: *"McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@winston.com>, Emily Barabas < emily.barabas@icann.org> *Cc: *"gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> *Subject: *Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] [Ext] AW: Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC
Hi all
It could have been good to know “inconsistent” with what? In my mind, that word is used that way. If the “some” that suggested it could clarify that, perhaps it would be clearer`
Have a wonderful weekend all,
Annebeth
*From: *"McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@winston.com> *Date: *Friday, 30 November 2018 at 15:50 *To: *"Annebeth B. Lange" <annebeth.lange@norid.no>, Emily Barabas < emily.barabas@icann.org> *Cc: *"gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> *Subject: *RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] [Ext] AW: Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC
Hi All,
I didn’t think we were going to just remove “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.”, which some thought was a value judgment, but rather modify it to something like “Some believe that treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” I think this is consistent with the “Some” approach that is throughout the document.
Best,
Paul
*From:* Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Annebeth Lange *Sent:* Friday, November 30, 2018 1:52 AM *To:* Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> *Cc:* gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] [Ext] AW: Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC
Hi all
I have no strong objections to this. Actually, it is important to highlight it when it is only «some», so it does not seem like it is a view the whole group shares.
Best regards,
Annebeth
Annebeth B Lange
Special Adviser International Policy
UNINETT Norid AS
Phone: +47 959 11 559
Mail: annebeth.lange@norid.no
29. nov. 2018 kl. 22:00 skrev Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org>:
Dear all,
It appears that we neglected to walk through these new comments from Jorge on the call yesterday. If there are any strong objections to the following, please respond on list by 21:00 UTC tomorrow, 30 November:
- On page 12, remove sentence “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” - On page 42, add the word “some” to the sentence referenced below.
Kind regards,
Emily
*From: *"Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch" <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch> *Date: *Wednesday, 28 November 2018 at 11:42 *To: *Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org>, " gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> *Subject: *[Ext] AW: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC
Dear Emily
Please include the following comments in the consideration:
- Page 12: “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” à this is just the opinion expressed (as far as I know) by one member. “inconsistent” is a value call. We could say that there were different treatments – whether that differentiation was inconsistent or not has not been agreed.
- Page 42: the following heading/intro seems to reflect an agreed view, when it is only the view of “some”, hence it should read “Some of the issues problems and negative experiences that some Work Track members identified from the 2012 round include the following.”
Best regards
Jorge
*Von:* Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org> *Im Auftrag von *Emily Barabas *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 27. November 2018 20:52 *An:* gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org *Betreff:* [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC
Dear all,
Please find below the proposed agenda for the Work Track 5 call taking place tomorrow 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC for 90 mins.
1. Welcome/Agenda Review/SOI Updates 2. Initial Report – Outstanding Items 3. AOB
- Additional information request – Geographic Names Panel
Please find attached the latest version of the draft Initial Report. This version incorporates new feedback received in the last week. New comments are highlighted in either blue or yellow. For those highlighted in blue, the resolution was relatively straightforward and staff has proposed edits. Comments in yellow require additional input and will be discussed on the call tomorrow.
Kind regards,
Emily
*Emily Barabas *| Policy Manager
*ICANN* | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
Email: emily.barabas@icann.org | Phone: +31 (0)6 84507976
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Thanks Annebeth. The answer to your question is in the immediately following sentences: “Some of these TLDs were permitted to move forward, some were only permitted where an arrangement could be reached with the geographic territory in question, and others were either not allowed to proceed or are still the subject of dispute.” Best, Paul From: Annebeth Lange <annebeth.lange@norid.no> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 9:58 AM To: McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@winston.com>; Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> Cc: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] [Ext] AW: Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC Hi all It could have been good to know “inconsistent” with what? In my mind, that word is used that way. If the “some” that suggested it could clarify that, perhaps it would be clearer` Have a wonderful weekend all, Annebeth From: "McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@winston.com<mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com>> Date: Friday, 30 November 2018 at 15:50 To: "Annebeth B. Lange" <annebeth.lange@norid.no<mailto:annebeth.lange@norid.no>>, Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org>" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] [Ext] AW: Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC Hi All, I didn’t think we were going to just remove “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.”, which some thought was a value judgment, but rather modify it to something like “Some believe that treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” I think this is consistent with the “Some” approach that is throughout the document. Best, Paul From: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Annebeth Lange Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 1:52 AM To: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org>> Cc: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] [Ext] AW: Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC Hi all I have no strong objections to this. Actually, it is important to highlight it when it is only «some», so it does not seem like it is a view the whole group shares. Best regards, Annebeth Annebeth B Lange Special Adviser International Policy UNINETT Norid AS Phone: +47 959 11 559 Mail: annebeth.lange@norid.no<mailto:annebeth.lange@norid.no> 29. nov. 2018 kl. 22:00 skrev Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org>>: Dear all, It appears that we neglected to walk through these new comments from Jorge on the call yesterday. If there are any strong objections to the following, please respond on list by 21:00 UTC tomorrow, 30 November: * On page 12, remove sentence “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” * On page 42, add the word “some” to the sentence referenced below. Kind regards, Emily From: "Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch<mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch>" <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch<mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch>> Date: Wednesday, 28 November 2018 at 11:42 To: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org>>, "gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org>" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org>> Subject: [Ext] AW: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC Dear Emily Please include the following comments in the consideration: - Page 12: “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” --> this is just the opinion expressed (as far as I know) by one member. “inconsistent” is a value call. We could say that there were different treatments – whether that differentiation was inconsistent or not has not been agreed. - Page 42: the following heading/intro seems to reflect an agreed view, when it is only the view of “some”, hence it should read “Some of the issues problems and negative experiences that some Work Track members identified from the 2012 round include the following.” Best regards Jorge Von: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org>> Im Auftrag von Emily Barabas Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. November 2018 20:52 An: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> Betreff: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC Dear all, Please find below the proposed agenda for the Work Track 5 call taking place tomorrow 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC for 90 mins. 1. Welcome/Agenda Review/SOI Updates 2. Initial Report – Outstanding Items 3. AOB - Additional information request – Geographic Names Panel Please find attached the latest version of the draft Initial Report. This version incorporates new feedback received in the last week. New comments are highlighted in either blue or yellow. For those highlighted in blue, the resolution was relatively straightforward and staff has proposed edits. Comments in yellow require additional input and will be discussed on the call tomorrow. 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Well, as far as I know, we are still waiting for a full, official, report on the activities of the GNP at the time. Application by application. CW
El 30 de noviembre de 2018 a las 17:02 "McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@winston.com> escribió:
Thanks Annebeth.
The answer to your question is in the immediately following sentences:
“Some of these TLDs were permitted to move forward, some were only permitted where an arrangement could be reached with the geographic territory in question, and others were either not allowed to proceed or are still the subject of dispute.”
Best,
Paul
From: Annebeth Lange <annebeth.lange@norid.no> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 9:58 AM To: McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@winston.com>; Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> Cc: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] [Ext] AW: Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC
Hi all
It could have been good to know “inconsistent” with what? In my mind, that word is used that way. If the “some” that suggested it could clarify that, perhaps it would be clearer`
Have a wonderful weekend all,
Annebeth
From: "McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@winston.com mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com > Date: Friday, 30 November 2018 at 15:50 To: "Annebeth B. Lange" <annebeth.lange@norid.no mailto:annebeth.lange@norid.no >, Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org > Cc: "gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org " <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org > Subject: RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] [Ext] AW: Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC
Hi All,
I didn’t think we were going to just remove “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.”, which some thought was a value judgment, but rather modify it to something like “Some believe that treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” I think this is consistent with the “Some” approach that is throughout the document.
Best,
Paul
From: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org > On Behalf Of Annebeth Lange Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 1:52 AM To: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org > Cc: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] [Ext] AW: Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC
Hi all
I have no strong objections to this. Actually, it is important to highlight it when it is only «some», so it does not seem like it is a view the whole group shares.
Best regards,
Annebeth
Annebeth B Lange
Special Adviser International Policy
UNINETT Norid AS
Phone: +47 959 11 559
Mail: annebeth.lange@norid.no mailto:annebeth.lange@norid.no
29. nov. 2018 kl. 22:00 skrev Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org >:
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Dear all,
It appears that we neglected to walk through these new comments from Jorge on the call yesterday. If there are any strong objections to the following, please respond on list by 21:00 UTC tomorrow, 30 November:
* On page 12, remove sentence “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” * On page 42, add the word “some” to the sentence referenced below.
Kind regards,
Emily
From: "Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch " <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch > Date: Wednesday, 28 November 2018 at 11:42 To: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org >, "gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org " <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org > Subject: [Ext] AW: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC
Dear Emily
Please include the following comments in the consideration:
- Page 12: “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” à this is just the opinion expressed (as far as I know) by one member. “inconsistent” is a value call. We could say that there were different treatments – whether that differentiation was inconsistent or not has not been agreed.
- Page 42: the following heading/intro seems to reflect an agreed view, when it is only the view of “some”, hence it should read “Some of the issues problems and negative experiences that some Work Track members identified from the 2012 round include the following.”
Best regards
Jorge
Von: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org > Im Auftrag von Emily Barabas Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. November 2018 20:52 An: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org Betreff: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC
Dear all,
Please find below the proposed agenda for the Work Track 5 call taking place tomorrow 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC for 90 mins.
1. Welcome/Agenda Review/SOI Updates 2. Initial Report – Outstanding Items 3. AOB
- Additional information request – Geographic Names Panel
Please find attached the latest version of the draft Initial Report. This version incorporates new feedback received in the last week. New comments are highlighted in either blue or yellow. For those highlighted in blue, the resolution was relatively straightforward and staff has proposed edits. Comments in yellow require additional input and will be discussed on the call tomorrow.
Kind regards,
Emily
Emily Barabas | Policy Manager
ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
Email: emily.barabas@icann.org mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org | Phone: +31 (0)6 84507976
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In this case, it is being used to mean “not consistent,“ I.e., “inconsistent with each other” or “inconsistent with others in the same set.” For, example “The bread at Kayser is always good, but the soup is inconsistent” or “The treatment of babies with diaper rash was inconsistent.” Greg On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 10:58 AM Annebeth Lange <annebeth.lange@norid.no> wrote:
Hi all
It could have been good to know “inconsistent” with what? In my mind, that word is used that way. If the “some” that suggested it could clarify that, perhaps it would be clearer`
Have a wonderful weekend all,
Annebeth
*From: *"McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@winston.com> *Date: *Friday, 30 November 2018 at 15:50 *To: *"Annebeth B. Lange" <annebeth.lange@norid.no>, Emily Barabas < emily.barabas@icann.org> *Cc: *"gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> *Subject: *RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] [Ext] AW: Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC
Hi All,
I didn’t think we were going to just remove “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.”, which some thought was a value judgment, but rather modify it to something like “Some believe that treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” I think this is consistent with the “Some” approach that is throughout the document.
Best,
Paul
*From:* Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Annebeth Lange *Sent:* Friday, November 30, 2018 1:52 AM *To:* Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> *Cc:* gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] [Ext] AW: Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC
Hi all
I have no strong objections to this. Actually, it is important to highlight it when it is only «some», so it does not seem like it is a view the whole group shares.
Best regards,
Annebeth
Annebeth B Lange
Special Adviser International Policy
UNINETT Norid AS
Phone: +47 959 11 559
Mail: annebeth.lange@norid.no
29. nov. 2018 kl. 22:00 skrev Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org>:
Dear all,
It appears that we neglected to walk through these new comments from Jorge on the call yesterday. If there are any strong objections to the following, please respond on list by 21:00 UTC tomorrow, 30 November:
- On page 12, remove sentence “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” - On page 42, add the word “some” to the sentence referenced below.
Kind regards,
Emily
*From: *"Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch" <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch> *Date: *Wednesday, 28 November 2018 at 11:42 *To: *Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org>, " gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> *Subject: *[Ext] AW: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC
Dear Emily
Please include the following comments in the consideration:
- Page 12: “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” à this is just the opinion expressed (as far as I know) by one member. “inconsistent” is a value call. We could say that there were different treatments – whether that differentiation was inconsistent or not has not been agreed.
- Page 42: the following heading/intro seems to reflect an agreed view, when it is only the view of “some”, hence it should read “Some of the issues problems and negative experiences that some Work Track members identified from the 2012 round include the following.”
Best regards
Jorge
*Von:* Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org> *Im Auftrag von *Emily Barabas *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 27. November 2018 20:52 *An:* gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org *Betreff:* [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC
Dear all,
Please find below the proposed agenda for the Work Track 5 call taking place tomorrow 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC for 90 mins.
1. Welcome/Agenda Review/SOI Updates 2. Initial Report – Outstanding Items 3. AOB
- Additional information request – Geographic Names Panel
Please find attached the latest version of the draft Initial Report. This version incorporates new feedback received in the last week. New comments are highlighted in either blue or yellow. For those highlighted in blue, the resolution was relatively straightforward and staff has proposed edits. Comments in yellow require additional input and will be discussed on the call tomorrow.
Kind regards,
Emily
*Emily Barabas *| Policy Manager
*ICANN* | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
Email: emily.barabas@icann.org | Phone: +31 (0)6 84507976
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