Kathy At a technical level, if the FOA email can get through to you behind your P/P service, then there's no reason to publish / reveal the underlying contact details . .. The reason we usually ask people to remove the service at the moment is, to the best of my knowledge, because a LOT of the emails don't reach their destination ie. The FOA email isn't relayed .. BUT You would need to have a mechanism to make sure that GD's PP stuff wasn't being used in whois (or its replacement) once the domain is no longer with them. Regards Michele PS: I've only had one coffee so I could be missing something really obvious and dumb . .. -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting & Colocation, Domains http://www.blacknight.co/ http://blog.blacknight.com/ http://www.technology.ie Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Locall: 1850 929 929 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Fax. +353 (0) 1 4811 763 Twitter: http://twitter.com/mneylon ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845 -----Original Message----- From: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Kleiman Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 9:53 PM To: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] last transfer thoughts Hi All, I wanted to point out two other transfer scenarios where not publishing the Whois information of a proxy/privacy customer makes sense and seems fair: 1) I decide to transfer all my domain names to Blacknight from a US Registrar and its affiliated proxy/privacy service. In doing so, I sign up at transfer for Blacknight's proxy/privacy service. Why shouldn't my personal data be protected in that transfer -- with the Whois shifting from one proxy/privacy service provider to another, both with my underlying personal data? 2) My Registrar loses its accreditation and all domain names are transferred to Tucows. I sign up right away for Tucows privacy service. Why should my personal data be published in this already-difficult situation? Why should potentially thousands or even millions of registrants lose their privacy? Best and tx, Kathy _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg mailing list Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg