Didn't you JUST suggest we should look at the data directive? Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor 415-419-9138 (m) Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos.
On Aug 31, 2015, at 8:50 AM, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
I am not sure that we need legal analysis to demonstrate that ICANN has no remit to investigate web content. cheers SP
On 2015-08-31 11:45, Kiran Malancharuvil wrote: Thanks Mary,
I will be on the call today but on a train so may cut in and out. I'm sure to be in listening mode and will not be able to speak much, if at all.
Kathy and Stephanie's comments nicer illustrate my point on the last call that legal analysis should be undertaken before we dispose of the questions at hand so we don't accidentally prejudice one regions laws over another.
Thanks,
Kiran
Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor 415-419-9138 (m)
Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos.
On Aug 31, 2015, at 8:31 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote:
Hi Kathy, from your other message it may be that you no longer need the page references, but just in case – the latest draft language for the Question 1 summary is what is being proposed by Kiran and Christian (see my email further below); the idea is that it will be added to the current Question 1 summary document. There has been no change made to the Question 2 summary document since the last Sub Team call on 14 August.
The documents are available on the Sub Team wiki page at: https://community.icann.org/x/0YZCAw. I will update Question 1 with the language proposed by Kiran and Christian, as further discussed/finalized by the Sub Team today.
Cheers Mary
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From: Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com<mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com>> Date: Monday, August 31, 2015 at 22:59 To: "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>>, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Subject: current draft?
Hi Mary, What is the current draft of the Subteam 2 paper -- or its link? Tx! Kathy
: Thanks to all who responded – by way of this email I’m requesting that the GNSO Secretariat set up the call-in details and AC room. Please watch your inboxes for the information they’ll send around.
Cheers Mary
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From: "Prosser, Susan" <susan@domaintools.com<mailto:susan@domaintools.com>> Date: Monday, August 31, 2015 at 00:57 To: Terri Stumme <<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> Cc: Mary Wong <<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, "gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] PPSAI Sub Team 2 - status update
I can make that work for a call tomorrow.
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On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Terri Stumme <terri.stumme@legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> wrote: I can be available for a call on Monday.
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: Thanks, Lindsay!
All - again, as the subteam is due to provide its report to the full WG this coming Tuesday 1 September, shall we do a call on Monday to discuss the questions/topics set out below?
Is anyone NOT able to do a 1600 UTC call on Monday?
Thanks! Mary
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On Aug 27, 2015, at 16:02, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> wrote:
Hi Mary
Many thanks for this. I can do a call on the Monday.
Kind regards
Lindsay
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On 27 Aug 2015, at 08:56, Mary Wong <<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote:
Hello again everyone,
Attached please find proposed language from Kiran and Christian following the last Sub Team call, intended to address the comments from the Save Domain Privacy and Respect Our Privacy petition and emails. As agreed on the Sub Team call, the finalized language will be inserted into the Sub Team’s report to the full WG on Question 1.
If we can get consensus on Question 1 via email, perhaps the call I’d proposed below can then focus on Questions 2 and 3 as well as any notes anyone may have on the remaining comments that I’d previously grouped into a Question 4? Please let me know if that will work and if you think we should convene a call either on Friday or Monday.
Thanks and cheers Mary
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From: Mary Wong <<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Date: Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 08:48 To: <<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: PPSAI Sub Team 2 - status update
Hello everyone,
As this Sub Team is due to make its next/final report to the full WG next week (1 September), I thought I’d write to follow up on the “action items” noted after the last call we did on 12 August (below).
On Question 1, I believe that Christian and Kiran will send proposed language to this group for your review and, hopefully consensus.
For Questions 2 & 3, it was agreed that the Sub Team as a whole would likely need to further discuss its conclusions/recommendations. I will note here also that we have not yet discussed Question 4, though in that regard perhaps I can suggest that staff take a stab at summarizing them for your review. This suggestion is based on the fact that these represent a collection of comments that relate generally to our topic rather than specific responses to Questions 1, 2 or 3.
As such, would it make sense for the Sub Team to try to do a call to go over the above, perhaps on Friday 28 August or Monday 31 August, presuming that everyone will have had a chance to send and/or read the latest documents by then?
Thanks and cheers Mary
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From: Mary Wong <<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Date: Saturday, August 15, 2015 at 04:53 To: <<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>gnso-ppsai2@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> Subject: Follow up from Sub Team call today
Hello Sub Team members,
For the benefit of those who could not join us on the Sub Team call earlier today and to document next steps for this group, here are the “action items” that were agreed on by those on the call:
Approach to the Save Domain Privacy and Respect Our Privacy petition, comments and statements:
* Kiran and Christian will work on draft suggested language for the Sub Team in respect of Question 1. While everyone agreed that these comments show a huge wave of support for user privacy to be respected and against restricting privacy services based on the word “commercial” used as a distinction, there was no agreement that this general support is totally dispositive of the various specific issues and options that had been raised by the Working Group in our Initial Report. * ADDITIONAL NOTE: I went and prepared a general summary on the additional comments that accompanied the Save Domain Privacy petition i.e. the additional comments that the organizers sent in, containing specific comments from many of the signatories. I’ll circulate this separately, in the hope that this summary will be helpful as you finalize the Sub Team’s recommendations.
Treating Question 1 as a “threshold” question to Questions 2 and 3:
* It was agreed that this may not be possible, since some comments noted that the answer to Question 1 might depend on the answer to Question 2. It was suggested that Question 2 might in fact be a more appropriate “threshold” question, although that was not how it was framed in the Initial Report.
Next steps:
* Sub Team to discuss draft language from Kiran and Christian (next week?) * Sub Team to continue review of the summary analysis to Questions 1 & 2, and possibly also 3 as well
Please note that the WG Work Plan currently has this Sub Team scheduled to provide its final recommended actions on Section 1.3.3 to the full WG on 1 September (i.e. about two and a half weeks from now). Assuming you think that is a realistic deadline, this would seem to call for at least one call late next week or early the following week, prior to which hopefully you will have had the chance to review all the documents prepared by Lindsay and Terri, and the forthcoming proposed language from Kiran and Christian.
Thanks and cheers Mary
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