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a nice example of a comment in our category
by Kathy Kleiman Aug. 26, 2015

Aug. 26, 2015

Hi All, I want to share a nice example of a comment in our bucket -- this one from the Alliance for Progressive Communications (APC) highlights some uses of proxy services, and their impact, that are interesting and powerful. I share it as a example of the type of material I think we can cover that fits in no other subteam -- https://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-ppsai-initial-05may15-not-respect-fo… Best and hope these dog days of summer are enjoyable and happy, Kathy

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A very general summary of the comments that accompanied the Save Domain Privacy petition
by Mary Wong Aug. 18, 2015

Aug. 18, 2015

Dear all, To various degrees each Sub Team cc¹d here has been discussing how it wishes to approach both the specific language of, as well as the additional comments that accompanied, the Save Domain Privacy petition that was signed by 10,042 people. I did a quick skim of the additional comments that were sent in as an attachment to the petition and prepared the following summary based on the initial categories used by the Save Domain Privacy organizers in their statement. Some of this may be more relevant or useful to one rather than another Sub Team, but I thought it may be helpful to send it to all of you nonetheless. For Sub Team 2 on Section 1.3.3, while there were quite a few comments that did not distinguish between personal-use domains and websites with those used for commercial purposes, there were other commenters who linked their concerns over privacy or anonymity with their specific experiences as registrants or proxy customers of domains that are used in relation to online financial transactions of one sort or other. Please see the categories below for additional details. For Sub Team 3 on Annex E, on the question of whether ³verifiable evidence² means only a court order, no commenter expressly said this is what the phrase must mean, although a few noted that disclosure should only take place upon either a court order, warrant, due process or (in one instance) ³some legal document². Several mentioned the possibility of getting a subpoena or a warrant (with a few adding that this is due process that should be obtained from legal channels, law enforcement or a government agency). Others simply noted that these are existing channels that can be used without specifying if they believed these to be the only ones. One or two mentioned the need that disclosure be made only upon ³probable cause² or ³good cause² but without specifically linking this to a court order. As such, and if I may, I don¹t think we can say that there is unequivocal support from the additional comments to the petition for one specific meaning to the term ³verifiable² (should the Sub Team or Working Group wish to go down that path). While there were numerous comments that simply stated the commenter¹s wish for privacy and/or the need to respect the right to privacy in general terms, there were also numerous commenters that tried to relate their opinions to specific concerns. Generally, the most common concerns that can be gleaned from these additional comments to the SDP petition seem to be: * Doxing/SWAT-ing and concerns about physical safety (e.g. stalking, harassment or where registrant is in an unsafe or threatening location) * Anonymity needs for certain individuals and organizations (e.g. those serving at-risk communities, targeted minorities, political and religious activists) * Lack of separation of online business presence from personal information, in some cases for cost reasons and especially for home-based or small businesses (e.g. online shop owners, freelancers, self-employed persons, writers) * Registrants who use pseudonyms and pen names for legal reasons (e.g. adult entertainers, erotica authors) * Data harvesting concerns * Spam, scams and identity theft (e.g. phishing attempts) * Other legitimate need for privacy of domain information, e.g. new product launches, business competitors, pre-launch websites I hope some at least of this is useful to your groups as you try to complete your discussions on this question and move on to reviewing the other comments. I will try to upload the document that contains all these additional comments to your respective Sub Team wiki pages if I can (it is 554 PDF pages!); in the meantime, here is the link to it in the public comment forum: http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-ppsai-initial-05may15/pdfCL0NdiQmaL.pd f. Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org

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MP3 PPSAI WG SubTeam2 - Friday, 14 August 2015 at 1500 UTC
by Terri Agnew Aug. 14, 2015

Aug. 14, 2015

Dear All, Please find below the attendance and MP3 recording for the Privacy and Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP SubTeam2 call held on Friday, 14 August 2015 at 15:00 UTC. Transcript will follow upon receipt. MP3: https://icann.box.com/shared/static/8o7aoev7bm4k3j2dw3bfr1c91dszmmv5.mp3<http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=zZ8xDDIU4PY795Cika7Nmy-2FNugFnAwo9a…> Attendees: Kiran Malancharuvil- IPC Terri Stumme BC Lindsay Hamilton-Reid RrSG Christian Dawson - ISPCP Susan Kawaguchi - BC ICANN staff: Mary Wong Terri Agnew Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for Friday, 14 August 2015 Terri Agnew: Welcome to the Sub Group call for Privacy & Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP Sub Team 2 teleconference on Friday, 14 August 2015. Lindsay Hamilton-Reid:Can you hear me? Lindsay Hamilton-Reid:I can hear you guys Terri Agnew:Susan Prosser has joined audio Mary Wong:WElcome, Susan Mary Wong:We're talking about Q1 - whether P/P services for online financil transactions should be prohibited, including how to deal with the Save Domain Privacy petition Kiran:The legal conclusions were never challenged. The conversation is absolutely still on the table Lindsay Hamilton-Reid:It really depends on which jurisdiction. There are no specific rules on WHOIS under, for example, English legislation. Mary Wong:No offense taken! This has been a real learning experience - it's my first WG as a staffer! Christian Dawson:I won't fight the effort to define commercial or transactional but I do believe that the clear overwhelming support is for making domain privacy available for all, making the need for the definitions relatively moot. I know there's disagreement on this but I want my comment reflected publicly

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PPSAI subteam 4 Transcription
by Nathalie Peregrine Aug. 13, 2015

Aug. 13, 2015

Dear all, Please find attached the transcription of the PPSAI sub team 4 call held on the 12 August 2015 Kind regards Nathalie

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MP3 PPSAI WG SubTeam4 - Wednesday, 12 August 2015 at 1600 UTC
by Terri Agnew Aug. 12, 2015

Aug. 12, 2015

Dear All, Please find below the attendance and MP3 recording for the Privacy and Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP SubTeam4 call held on Tuesday Wednesday, 12 August 2015 at 16:00 UTC. Transcript will follow upon receipt. MP3: https://icann.box.com/shared/static/r36u1m6iux8yl7zs6sm8l84tnw0pylzq.mp3<http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=zZ8xDDIU4PY795Cika7Nmy-2FNugFnAwo9a…> Attendees: Kathy Kleiman NCSG Vicky Sheckler IPC Frank Michlick Individual James Gannon NCUC Paul McGrady IPC Apologies : None ICANN staff: Mary Wong Terri Agnew Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for Wednesday, 12 August 2015 Terri Agnew:Welcome to the Sub Group call for Privacy & Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP Sub Team 4 teleconference on Wednesday, 12 August 2015. Frank Michlick:Sorry for joining late, I was encountering some technical difficulties Terri Agnew:@Frank, let me know if I can help with any issues Frank Michlick:I got it, I think. Thank you @Terri. Mary Wong:I'd listen to a Paul McGrady Radio Hour! Paul McGrady:Thanks Mary! Terri Agnew:Welcome James Gannon James Gannon:Sorry eveyone I lost the invite and didint put it into my calendar somehow! Mary Wong:No worries, James, welcome Terri Agnew:@James, I just sent you the call invitiation James Gannon:I've been trying to go through the form based comments that have had additoinal text added, its so difficult Mary Wong:TBH the Excel spreadsheet is probably (very relatively) easier to read, but like I said, my Mac hates Excel so I had to review the "backup" in the form of the RTF mail files. James Gannon:"Cleanish" version sent by Graeme in Numbers worked for me Mary Mary Wong:I'll paste an example of the RTF message in the Notes pod so you can see what it looks like with all the headers etc. Mary Wong:@James, sadly not for me, at least not all the time. It was easy to find and sort the form-based comments, but harder to isolate the others. So I had to bounce back and forth between that, the rtf files and the actual public forum. Vicky Sheckler:if comments go to the other categories of issues, i think we should send those comments to the other sub-groups Vicky Sheckler:as we consider the concerns raised, we also have to conside the probability of the concern raised Kathy IK:Categories in formation: 1) Array of uses/reasons for P/P, 2) Array of concerns re: P/P, 3) Unintended consquences of P/P Reveal, 4) Due Process - additional detail and discussion? Vicky Sheckler:any identification of unintended consequences needs to also consider the probability of that consequence occuring Vicky Sheckler:Kathy - i think the due process is a subject coverend in Annex E and should be addressed there, to the extent it isn't an only court order type commetn Kathy IK:@Mary, are Graeme's most recent spreadsheet and the ICANN Staff version posted on our subteam 4 wiki? could they be? Kathy IK:@Vicky: is due process only a "reveal" issue? I'm not sure... Vicky Sheckler:i beliee it is only a disclosure/reveal issue. It not a relay issue Vicky Sheckler:my typing is attrocious. sorry. Mary Wong:@Kathy, not yet but I can upload them directly after this call Vicky Sheckler:Kathy - I worry that you are in essence trying to "redo" the work of the other subteams w/o the other subteam's input. I think that would be detetrimental to the working group dynamics. But maybe i am misundersanding you? James Gannon:Its more about capturing the bigger picture items that dont fit into the direct text of the initial report. Kathy IK:Is there something else they wanted to tell us.... Vicky Sheckler:I also worry that this process of categorizing / assessing the commetns generally is being misappropriated to advocate particular points of views. At this point, we should try to be neutral in categorizing / trying to rationalize the commetnts Vicky Sheckler:agree w/ Paul. Kathy IK:yes, more buckets! James Gannon:I think that process of merging will address your concern Vicky no? James Gannon:And I understand where your coming from, and it will come from both sides but we do need to be as neutral as we can here Kathy IK:@Vicky, I truly don't want to redo the work of the other subteams. I've joined subteam 2 and 3 mostly to watch so we don't have to duplicate... James Gannon:I think me and mary have been seeing the same comments Mary Wong:@James, I agree :) Kathy IK:Additional buckets, per Mary's suggestion: a) issues concerning creation of accreditation b) definitional (input to the definitions), c) new features being suggested, e.g., periodic review James Gannon:I dont think anything should be out of scope with respect. James Gannon:Thats what this group is for. Vicky Sheckler:agree w/ paul re: decision has already been made to come up with an accreditation process. that ship has sailed. Vicky Sheckler:we can note that a minority of comments still don't like that decision James Gannon:I disagree. If we found that that is what the communty wanted then we nee to respect that view. That is the entire concept of having things go out to Public Comment. Vicky Sheckler:James - that ignores the previous community view to move forward. James Gannon:I dont belive it does, I belive that the role of the PC is to assess if the progression of the PDP is in line with what the internet community wants.. and they ahve the right to change their mind as we provide details. Mary Wong:@Vicky, @Paul - it's true we've (ICANN) committed to an accreditation program so there's not much we can do with those comments but maybe we need to note them nonetheless? Kathy IK:Merging the Categories in formation: 1) Array of uses/reasons for P/P, 2) Array of concerns re: P/P, 3) Unintended consquences of P/P Reveal, 4) Due Process - additional detail and discussion; Additional buckets, per Mary's suggestion: a) issues concerning creation of accreditation b) definitional (input to the definitions), c) new features being suggested, e.g., periodic review Mary Wong:@Kathy can you explian (2) and (4)? Vicky Sheckler:my microphone isn't working, which is why i'm typinc so much today. I disagree w/ James' characterization. there is a commitment to accreditation. The working group's goal is to find a way to get that accrediation. We may have issues w/ the WG proposal, but that isn't the same as blowing up accreditation entirely. Kathy IK:@Mary, will explain when I am called on! James Gannon:Yes sorry I wasnt arguing for that at the subteam level, but our job at the subteam level is to bring those big picture issues back to the WG Vicky Sheckler:full and complete includes more than just petition comments. I don't understand why the other commetns continue to seem to be ignored on our workign group calls. James Gannon:Agreed Vicky! James Gannon:Neutrality is imprtant in this subgroup agreed James Gannon:We will fight like dogs most lilely =) Mary Wong:Yes, there were also very many substantive, thoughtful comments - some from non-ICANN veteran participants, which was really heartening. James Gannon:Yeah some really grat ones actually, even from some of the big US civil soc groups which was amazing Paul McGrady:Issue Spotters not Evaluators! Great description Kathy! Kathy IK:Kathy IK: Merging the Categories in formation: 1) Array of uses/reasons for P/P, 2) Array of concerns re: P/P, 3) Unintended consquences of P/P Reveal, 4) Due Process - additional detail and discussion; Additional buckets, per Mary's suggestion: a) issues concerning creation of accreditation b) definitional (input to the definitions), c) new features being suggested, e.g., periodic review d_ Other topices we have not thought about yet Frank Michlick:Ready :) James Gannon:Ready =) Kathy IK:and some comments may have parts falling into several buckets Kathy IK:there are some very long comments... Vicky Sheckler:Please note I'm on business travel on tuesday Kathy IK:for tuesday, I think we might want to outline our approach Kathy IK:And Graeme's spreadsheet which is very good for PC folks Vicky Sheckler:i think due process should be send to the subteams on annex e and to the extent it is appbliable, relay. Vicky Sheckler:if we think those subteams need to say more in their summaries about due process, then we can let the;m know Vicky Sheckler:james/kathy - strongly recommend you read the COA comments re: concerns w/ the petition comments James Gannon:I have read them Vicky and diagree with the characterisations contained within Vicky Sheckler:as we think about hte buckets here, those i think might fit insome of these "no comments left behind" area, though to be fair I haven't read it in a while Vicky Sheckler:james - you may disagree, but it needs to be captured James Gannon:Agreed but that is at the WG level as its a fundamental issue. Vicky Sheckler:disagree - this is the no comments left behind group James Gannon:We can certainly include it but I think its an issue that is quite clear and is applicable to all subteams. Mary Wong:@James, I have to agree with Vicky here. Maybe this Sub Team can bring it up to the full WG as something to be considered as a fundamental issue but someone has to. Vicky Sheckler:agree w/ paul James Gannon:My cncern would be if we wait to raise it from this subteam we are doing it after the other subteams have started their work already. James Gannon:Hahaha Vicky Sheckler:i'm a word table guy too Mary Wong:I will create a Word template using the categories in the Notes pod on the right Mary Wong:It will be blank so you can each fill it in Mary Wong:Then we will have several versions of the SAME template James Gannon:Yeah makes sense Mary Wong:BTW James, for a PDP this IS the most number of comments we've received. The only greater number was 15,000 for the .xxx delegation but that was just for a single issue :) Kathy IK:Tx All! Frank Michlick:Thank you everyone James Gannon:Mary Wow so by some margin!! James Gannon:Poor staff :P James Gannon:Thanks all Mary Wong:Thanks :)

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Any prep for the call needed?
by Mary Wong Aug. 11, 2015

Aug. 11, 2015

Dear Kathy and Paul, Is there anything you¹d like the Sub Team to think about or begin to discuss ahead of the call tomorrow? Please also let staff know if you'll need any specific materials distributed or prepared in advance of the Sub Team call. Thanks! 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Re: [Gnso-ppsai4] Proposed Sub Team call - WEDNESDAY 12 AUGUST
by Mary Wong Aug. 10, 2015

Aug. 10, 2015

Dear all, Further to my email below, since we have not heard any objections from anyone, we will proceed to schedule this PPSAI Sub Team 4 call for this Wednesday 12 August at 1600 UTC. Please look out for a notice and call-in details from our Secretariat soon! Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org From: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> Date: Friday, August 7, 2015 at 11:49 To: <gnso-ppsai4(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: Proposed Sub Team call > Hello again all, > > At the moment Thursday 13 August at 1600 UTC looks to be the most promising > time. So that everyone can mark their calendars, may I ask those who CANNOT > make a call at that time to let us all know ASAP? Thanks very much! > > Cheers > Mary > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 > Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org > > > From: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> > Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 14:31 > To: <gnso-ppsai4(a)icann.org> > Subject: Proposed Sub Team call > >> Hello everyone, >> >> At the request of the co-convenors of this Sub Team 4 (for Additional >> Topics), Paul and Kathy, please fill in the following Doodle poll regarding >> your availability next week for a call: http://doodle.com/x9zyvzrshckqa49f >> (the default times are listed in US Eastern Time but time zone support has >> been enabled, so you should be able to adjust to your own timezone). >> >> I believe the idea is to discuss your feedback from reviewing the comments, >> as to whether there are additional topics that should either be referred to >> another Sub Team or brought back to the full WG. >> >> Thanks and cheers >> Mary >> >> Mary Wong >> Senior Policy Director >> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 >> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org >>

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Proposed Sub Team call
by Mary Wong Aug. 7, 2015

Aug. 7, 2015

Hello everyone, At the request of the co-convenors of this Sub Team 4 (for Additional Topics), Paul and Kathy, please fill in the following Doodle poll regarding your availability next week for a call: http://doodle.com/x9zyvzrshckqa49f (the default times are listed in US Eastern Time but time zone support has been enabled, so you should be able to adjust to your own timezone). I believe the idea is to discuss your feedback from reviewing the comments, as to whether there are additional topics that should either be referred to another Sub Team or brought back to the full WG. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org

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Test - and welcome
by Mary Wong Aug. 3, 2015

Aug. 3, 2015

Hello everyone, I just wanted to repeat the welcome message I'd sent previously, as not everyone who volunteered for this sub team had been added to the mailing list at the time. Here is the wiki page for this Sub Team 4, which as you'll recall was created to generate additional topics that as a group you believe the full WG should consider - in addition to those public comments that directly address the WG's preliminary recommendations and open questions - and that is within scope of the WG's charter. Some of you will have received the blank template I'd sent around, which is intended for the Sub Team to fill in, based on the templates for the other Sub Teams and the WG as a whole. You can find that blank template and the names of all Sub Team members on the Sub Team wiki page here: https://community.icann.org/x/1oZCAw<https://community.icann.org/x/0YZCAw>. Please let me know how else staff can assist with your task of preliminarily reviewing the public comments and completing the template, including any calls you may wish to have as you begin to finalize your recommendations for the full WG. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org

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Late entry
by James Gannon Aug. 2, 2015

Aug. 2, 2015

Hi guys just FYI I recently moved house and wont have a reliable internet connection until Friday 7th Aug but I will be active on this subgroup once I have that sorted, I will follow the work of the group until then! -James Gannon

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