Please do that Steve. Chuck From: Metalitz, Steven [mailto:met@msk.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 10:27 AM To: 'Lisa Phifer' <lisa@corecom.com>; 'Bastiaan Goslings' <bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net>; consult@cgomes.com Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: RE: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document Thanks Lisa. I have that but there were subsequent messages referring to later edits and I did not know if these had been incorporated in a common document. Perhaps not. If no one else can do so I can try to incorporate Farrell’s and Bastian’s edits and circulate a consolidated text this evening. However as it turns out I will be unable to attend a call tomorrow morning (1400 UTC) if that proves necessary. Steven J. Metalitz | Partner, through his professional corporation T: 202.355.7902 | <mailto:met@msk.com> met@msk.com Mitchell Silberberg & Knupp LLP | <http://www.msk.com/> www.msk.com 1818 N Street NW, 8th Floor, Washington, DC 20036 THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL USE OF THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENTS. THIS MESSAGE MAY BE AN ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATION, AND AS SUCH IS PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL. IF THE READER OF THIS MESSAGE IS NOT AN INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT ANY REVIEW, USE, DISSEMINATION, FORWARDING OR COPYING OF THIS MESSAGE IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. PLEASE NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY BY REPLY E-MAIL OR TELEPHONE, AND DELETE THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE AND ALL ATTACHMENTS FROM YOUR SYSTEM. THANK YOU. From: Lisa Phifer [mailto:lisa@corecom.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 1:05 PM To: Metalitz, Steven; 'Bastiaan Goslings'; consult@cgomes.com <mailto:consult@cgomes.com> Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document Steve, reviewing this team's email archive: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-5/ it appears the most recent copy of the document emailed to the team is: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-5/attachments/20171024/3691b28b/S... I hope this is helpful, Lisa At 09:18 AM 10/25/2017, Metalitz, Steven wrote: Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="_004_E5B4A2ED43DFAE4F9E710FA54FEF8F626D215756LAEX02MSKlocal_"; type="multipart/alternative" Could someone provide the link to the current version of the document? The link previously provided is to an outdated version. Thanks. Steven J. Metalitz | Partner, through his professional corporation T: 202.355.7902 | met@msk.com <mailto:met@msk.com> Mitchell Silberberg & Knupp LLP | <http://www.msk.com/> www.msk.com 1818 N Street NW, 8th Floor, Washington, DC 20036 THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL USE OF THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENTS. THIS MESSAGE MAY BE AN ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATION, AND AS SUCH IS PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL. IF THE READER OF THIS MESSAGE IS NOT AN INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT ANY REVIEW, USE, DISSEMINATION, FORWARDING OR COPYING OF THIS MESSAGE IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. PLEASE NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY BY REPLY E-MAIL OR TELEPHONE, AND DELETE THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE AND ALL ATTACHMENTS FROM YOUR SYSTEM. THANK YOU. From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org> [ mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org> ] On Behalf Of Bastiaan Goslings Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 10:56 AM To: consult@cgomes.com <mailto:consult@cgomes.com> Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document I tried to give the doc some more structure by following the template format - I also included my feedback below in the form of comments in the doc (No idea what others think, if necessary I can look into this later/tomorrow) -Bastiaan
On 25 Oct 2017, at 18:23, consult@cgomes.com <mailto:consult@cgomes.com> wrote:
Is anyone able to take all the input and produce a final document using the template? That will help me determine whether a call is needed tomorrow. I will not have much time until this evening.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Bastiaan Goslings [ mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net <mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net> ] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 5:04 AM To: Farell Folly <farellfolly@gmail.com <mailto:farellfolly@gmail.com> > Cc: Bastiaan Goslings < bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net <mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net> >; consult@cgomes.com <mailto:consult@cgomes.com> ; Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com <mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com> >; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Thanks, Farell
With regard to the current google-doc version (I assume that is what I need to look at, and that anything else on the list will be incorporated if applicable - if not then I’m not sure what I can reflect on):
I am slightly lost when it comes to the structure. As far as I am aware the Purpose (Name) we are meant to deal with is ‘Regulatory or Contractual Enforcement’. And the IP example that Steve provided would then be one Use Case related to this purpose. I do not know who it put there but as is now the Google doc introduces another purpose on page 2, i.e. ‘Provide services to clients to provide threat intelligence and guard against DNS system attacks.’
Besides the fact that I do not understand what ‘providing to provide’ means, the above IMO does not fit the ‘Regulatory or Contractual Enforcement’ scope. Just like e.g. CERTS and LEAs do not fall within our purpose, as was established earlier, so called ’security groups’ and ‘illegal groups’ don’t either…
Maybe II am missing something here?
On 25 Oct 2017, at 14:36, Farell Folly <farellfolly@gmail.com <mailto:farellfolly@gmail.com> > wrote:
Dear All,
In attach a compiled list of data elements that may be required by a government agency, a regulatory or controlling authority to ensure contractual compliance. I used the gdpr-dataflow-matrix-whois-11sep17-en report which was very useful. There is also a good categorization of users types.
I hope it helps us.
Le mar. 24 oct. 2017 à 22:22, <consult@cgomes.com <mailto:consult@cgomes.com> > a écrit : I think that will work Bastian as long as you are able to respond as early as possible tomorrow afternoon your time.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Bastiaan Goslings [ mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net <mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net> ] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:08 AM To: Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com <mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com> > Cc: Bastiaan Goslings < bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net <mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net> >; consult@cgomes.com <mailto:consult@cgomes.com> ; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hi all,
Thanks, and sorry for the radio silence - if it works in terms of our time-/deadline, I can reserve time to look closer at the text tomorrow afternoon (UTC +4, I’m in Dubai for RIPE75)
-Bastiaan
On 24 Oct 2017, at 18:53, Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com <mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com> > wrote:
I think we just need to read through and accept and properly incorporate all as one. Let us jus agree what is kept what goes away. I think time to synthesize and fully agree. Most are fine i think it foes to fully integrate and agree and the full language to reflect.
Kris
On Oct 24, 2017, at 18:09, <consult@cgomes.com <mailto:consult@cgomes.com> > <consult@cgomes.com <mailto:consult@cgomes.com> > wrote:
Thanks for the great work.
All – Please review and comment on the draft with Steeve’s edits.
Chuck
From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org> [ mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org> ] On Behalf Of Beth Bacon Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 6:51 AM To: Metalitz, Steven <met@msk.com <mailto:met@msk.com> >; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hi Steve, Thanks! Our emails wouldn’t have zipped right past each other.
I’ll send this version around. Thanks, Beth
From: Metalitz, Steven [mailto:met@msk.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:19 AM To: Beth Bacon <bbacon@pir.org <mailto:bbacon@pir.org> >; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: RE: Draft Input Document
Thanks Beth. I have dropped into this document the “Purpose definition� language I drafted and which I circulated a few minutes ago. (Apologies that I evidently failed to hit send on this text yesterday!)
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Hello All, I’ve compiled the edits and contributions into one word document. I’ve not taken any license to edit and have merely dropped the original language into the various sections of the template document and into the chart (one for each use case provided). I’m not sure if the chart was illustrative in the template or meant to be used in our inputs, but I do think helps to present the use cases provided in a visually digestible way.
Go forth and edit! Best, Beth
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